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http://news.sky.com/story/1129902/di...ew-information

The truth will finally come out.:(

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The truth came out ages ago - they died in a car accident.

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What i didnt get about this whole thing was they stated that a small white fiat car was involved in it and they had evidence on CCTV cameras yet the car was never located.

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Be interesting to find out who killed her.

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This is a video clip I took a few months ago as we drove through the tunnel where she died. Even there you can see how dangerously some bikers are there. That guy went a lot closer to us that it seems in the clip.

http://youtu.be/M4tO3acCEh4

It was an accident.

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Alan, that question is the million dollar one. Theys said that they found a car 'similar' to the one involved, it went quiet after that.

I still believe to this day that she was murdered by persons unknown, and what better way to do it then in a tunnel. They did say that there are questions to answer about the death.

There were stories flying around that she was murdered by the British to stop her marrying Dodi.

I would like to know the truth, as Diana was a person that was hated by the royal family, and this is what the royal family didn't like as she was loved by thousands of people. And yet she is still remembered in France, but never in the UK.

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You already know the truth Arthur, she died in a car accident.

True. If only we had some sort of memorial fountain for her.

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So if they don't find anything does that mean there is nothing to find or that these people are just part of the conspiracy?

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:tu:

More tinfoil hat stuff to join the rest like, the Bermuda triangle, the faked moon landings, the 9-11 was a Government led hit, Elvis is was seen in the local chippy. Who the hell thinks these looney conspiracy theory's are real :rolleyes:

It is so so sad that some will keep digging at this trying to make something out of nothing. its simple "IT WAS A CAR ACCIDENT" now move along and find something interesting to do in your life.

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I know one theory that was true - a hidden nazi base on the moon. It must've been true I saw a film on that :)

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They were mining for cheese apparently... :D

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Municipalistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei? ;)

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The sad conspiracy theorist will keep digging and digging trying to make A = B= C in the end they MIGHT give up if something else takes their fancy :rolleyes:

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LOL Russ, constantly repeating it won't make it fact :)

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No, various investigations did that.

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However she did die in a car crash or are you another of the sad people who thinks there is something else in this.

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Various investigations have been proven wrong before.

this may well be another one of them.

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I don't find you calling me sad offensive for thinking there's something else.

but I do think you're sad for thinking there isn't.

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You keep saying that and you might make it fact ;)

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Well it couldn't stay a secret for ever, could it.

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Generally I think if it looks like a duck and walks like a duck then it's a duck. Various investigations and an inquest all concluded she died in a (albeit preventable) car accident. Each conspiracy accusation has been debunked. I'm guessing you won't accept any findings other than ones that say she was murdered but I think you'll be waiting longer than a lifetime for that - it didn't happen.

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We'll see..

That duck.. it was a man in fancy dress.

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You won't. I've witnessed bad driving in that tunnel for myself. It was an accident no matter how inconvenient a truth that is for some people.

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and that's perhaps what should be looked at with all events that spark conspiracies...

• who funded the released-to-public investigations into the events?
• who carried out the released-to-public investigations into the events?
• who presented the released-to-public findings of the investigations into the events?
• was anybody better off having the conclusions of the released-to-public investigations meet a specific outcome?

just because a scientist does a study and concludes that God doesn't exist and religiosity is actually down to increased / decreased activity in specified areas of the right parietal lobe, prefrontal cortex and hippocampus/amygdala, does that mean he is right? just because the president of a world power says he did not have sexual relations with that woman, does that make it the truth?

sometimes, not always, but sometimes there may be greater powers out there that we might not know about who can decide to tell the masses something which may not always be the whole truth. let's face it, it was only this very week that the US government agencies officially admitted that Area 51 exists. the installation has been a physical set of buildings since the 1950's. or perhaps you would prefer to believe that they were only built in the last few days??

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Big difference between Area 51 and Diana. With her death numerous investigations have come up with the same thing.

Area 51 has been physically proven to exist. You could (almost) go there. You could certainly walk right up to the 'gates'. It was there, satellite pictures proved it.

You could see it and touch it. The American government finally admitting it exists make zero difference.

The same could not be said about Diana dying in anything other than a car accident.

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and the other points I make?

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Exactly the same. There has been nothing concrete to suggest a conspiracy and plenty of evidence to say it was a car accident.

edit: you edited your post since I replied. The scientists who came up with that theory, all he did was find the part of the brain God uses to communicate with us. No problem with his findings.

And regarding Clinton, that's a good example of how major governments have a poor track record of keeping secrets from its citizens.

Were did her mercs ECU disappear to?

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so essentially, you are willing to blindly accept an investigative outcome, a study finding or conclusion into any event just because an 'official', 'expert', or 'authoritative figure' tells you "this is the truth"?

Do you never question the validity of the information, its sources or its method of investigation and presentation?

you seem to have dismissed and brushed of my other points by saying
that doesn't really explain anything away. it doesn't even confront what I said. are you not willing to address the 4 points of questioning I posed regarding 'official' investigations, nor the added 2 rather simple examples of how high profile / public interested events turned out very differently from the initial 'expert' or 'officially' presented information?

do you truly believe that you know everything about what happened in the tunnel thanks to the newspapers and newsreels that were presented to you? you do not think in any way that evidence from someone who was actually there might have been removed from the public domain and hushed in case it brought to light something underhand?

now, to be clear, I am not saying anything was underhand in the case of Diana. But I'm also not blinkered enough to think I was ever told everything about that event. for all we know, the new evidence may go further to prove that it was simply an accident, which in all fairness, it probably was. but that does not mean to say it definitely was. there is always that chance that we, the public, do not know everything.

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If it makes sense enough to me and what I have been presented with 'feels' right then yes, I'll accept it.

As above.

I've not said I believe "everything" we've been told (just like 9/11) but I believe enough to come to the conclusion that it was what it was - a tragic car accident.

I see nothing for anyone to credibly gain from her murder, no real motive (she may well have been a pain in the arse to the Royal Family but so was Fergie and she's still with us) and as people have survived similar and worse car accidents in the past (Richard Hammond), there would be too much scope for things to go 'wrong' (ie her survival) for it to be a viable assassination.


As I said I'm sure there are aspects of this we're not told about. But nothing that would take away the fact it was just a tragic car accident.

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I agree that I think this was an accident. I too, do not know of who may have benefited from her death. but just because I don't know about them doesn't mean there isn't someone out there who did benefit in some way.

on the whole, I agree with you that it was an accident. I'm not with you on the whole 'if it feels right' bit though. but that is simply how I am. if someone explains something as intuition, to me it means there is something to be learned as to what exactly gives one that 'feeling'.

for example, if someone says they don't trust someone but can't explain why, it generally means they have picked up on elements of personality, vocal tonality / speed, spoken word, body language and so on (behaviour), which in the past have been attributed to others who turned out to be untrustworthy to that person. it's just a case of being aware of what those traits are. once we have valid explanations with repeatable consistency, there is no more mystery. those 'feelings' of intuition become behavioural patterns we can be aware of in others.

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I don't believe she "died in a car accident" I believe she was murdered. She was a very strong, powerful and good woman and I somehow don't believe they wanted to have this type of woman being represented as part of the royal family.

Investigation by who? the people who planned out her murder?

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I have a very finely tuned 'gut reaction' to most things in life. Thankfully it has yet to let me and what it's telling me about this is it was an accident. For something as big as assassinating a former Royal there would need to be a huge undercurrent story which we'd either have had an inkling about or would have come out by now (probably by a Daily Express reporter). I've travelled under that bridge, I've see how bad the traffic is, that plus other things leave me in no doubt it wasn't a hit.

The BBC investigated it. Various publications did so and let's not forget the official inquest too.

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Plus do you not think the 2 future Kings have resources to look in to conspiracy claims of their own?

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For me it's a simple case of what is more likely.

Either she died as a result of an accident caused by a drunk driver going too fast and erratically or a large number of people were involved in setting up a strobe/contact accident and hoped that none of the paparazzi obtained photos of said murder and none of the players would ever admit to their part in the plot and it's execution and their involvement would remain secret for all time.

I know which one my money is on. Conspiracy theories can always find some parts of the story to fit their version of events but the whole story only fits the official story, she died as a result of an accident.

The credibility of this new information seems pretty suspect already to say the least.

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and this will always be the case if official investigations (into any event which gives rise to conspiracy theories), omit the information that they do not want the public to know. if they (whoever that might be) control the information, then they control the verdict.

opinions, feelings and reports do not necessarily mean or present fact either whole or in part. we should always question, otherwise how would we learn more than our teacher wants us to know? and if we merely parrot the words on the page, we will never progress.

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They were in on it to, if it ever gets out that it was Phillip in the tunnel with the blunderbuss it get out that James Hewitt is Harry's father to.

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Have amended the title to include refernce to what the thread is actually about.

I really think it was a bad car accident and nothing else. People will always created conspirisies to try and explain event they dont understand or can't properly get enough facts on.

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Everyone already knows that.

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It's like you're mocking those whose opinions don't match your own - not very mature. Worse still, those whom you are mocking would be expecting exactly this kind of response - akin to making a reference to tin hats.

Effectively, your post would be considered a fail on both parts. Must try harder! :)

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To be honest there is something that happened here and that is what happened. There is hardly any evidence that differs from the official account and while your entitled to your opinion you're not entitled to have to taken seriously.

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Between a driver under the influence and the crazy paparazzi it was an inevitable outcome..

The trouble is conspiracy theorists always want another outcome because they can't accept the truth because they are still grieving over her.Well that and the fact it helps sell newspapers it will keep rumbling on.

Same with the Maddy case..the newspapers love it when some 'new' development happens because they sell a few more papers than usual.:rolleyes:

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Err no it isn't, get over yourself, it was a joke, I've no interest in this what so ever or any ones opinions on it and had the thread title had any relevance to what the thread contained I wouldn't even have opened it and the only thing I'll be trying harder to do in it is leave. I don't even find it mildly interesting that this whole plot would've fallen apart if she'd simply worn a seatbelt.

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This :clap:

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Yes, and the CIA planned 9/11 and the moon landings were faked

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I think Mohamed al fayed has enough money and clout to get to the bottom of what happened and even he backed off after a while ,knowing he was flogging a dead horse .

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I don't believe everything I'm told, and just because it's official doesn't mean it is true. I don't think we're really told the truth so I just try and keep an open mind about things.

Though those that do believe everything they are told because it's official then laugh as soon as the word conspiracy is mentioned are probably just too gullible. I couldn't listen to much they have to say when their minds are just too closed. We're never going to find out the truth about anything.

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:clap:

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Exactly!

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"Just because it's official doesn't mean it's true" is correct - however, when three separate inquiries (one of them French, one by the Met, and the last being a formal inquest) come to the same conclusion, and hundreds of journalists from multiple countries have done in-depth investigations, and when governments can't even "cover up" their own wrong-doings, do we really think that if this had happened, with lots of people involved in the planning and cover-up, something wouldn't have been leaked before?

People aren't believing it because it's official and they are gullible - they believe it because they have followed through a chain of events, read about the investigations into them, and agreed with the official verdict.

Occam's Razor - usually the simplest explanation is also the most likely.

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There are a lot of things the special forces and secret services do that we never get to know about. Just because our government is inept does not mean they are. Just saying

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I'm not just on about Diana's death but the whole 'conspiracy' thing in general. Those that do not believe in any kind of conspiracy at all and just follow the official line.

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You may be confusing fiction (Andy McNab et al books) with reality, imho - when these people do stuff, it is authorised and logged somewhere; the logistics don't just happen by themselves.

Things do happen that we don't know about - but there has been a chain of command which authorised these things, and the more people involved in a secret, the more likely it is to leak.....

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There's a conspiracy theory about conspiracy theories, in that most of them are created by governments to hide the real conspiracies.....

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The type of operation proposed for Diana's death would be fine for an African dictator or Eastern European criminal where if it doesn't work or evidence is left the government can shrug its shoulders and say "The security services do not kill people"

If the state were involved in the death of the mother of a future king can you imagine the storm that would occur if their involvement came to light?

They would need to have people in place to ensure there was no CCTV or photographs (of the most photographed woman on the planet), they would need people in place in the first responders or hospital to kill her in case the initial crash didn't do the job, they would need to ensure her bodyguard was killed as well to stop him talking, they would need to have access to the drivers body to tamper with the bloodwork in such a way that's undetectable and then keep the whole lot undercover for ever whilst manipulating official inquests in several different countries to keep them to the official story.

Then any records would need to be redacted forevermore just in case the ex parents-in-law of a soldier decide to spill the beans

Or it could have been a drunk driver crashing his car at speed during a tricky part of the road.

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Just work on that one and it'll all work out fine, no need for all of the other complications you mention.

I mean. you want to get from A to B without being noticed. so instead of walking where there's a chance of being seen along the way. and instead of sitting in the passenger seat where there's a chance of being seen.

you hide in the boot.

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Once again you say I am confusing something well NO.

Secondly I made a simple statement which I believe is true talking to me like I am an idiot does not alter the fact my statement still stands true even with your requisites

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all of which however implausible could still be achieved.

I have no idea how the secret service work I am sure it is not as glamorous as James Bond but I am sure its gonna be dark whatever goes on

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The more implausible the more unlikely it is to have happened.

A smallish team to take out a person no one in the UK is likely to have heard of or miss? Possible.

A team of tens of people on the ground plus planning, logistics and the subsequent coverup to kill possibly the most famous woman in the world in a built up area and a lifetime of keeping quiet? Into tinfoil hat territory.

If they wanted to kill Diana there would have been ample opportunity to do it in a far more discreet and definately fatal way.
Her bodyguard survived thanks to a seatbelt, people survive high speed crashes every day in modern cars. Again why risk an operation if you have to ensure the target is dead to prevent them pointing fingers.

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Maybe they wanted it to appear to be so impossible that no one believes it.

No one here can categorically say either way we can all believe its impossible but none of us knows for sure.

My statement was a simple one the replies more complicated

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I have a suggestion.Let the conspiracy enthusiasts have this thread.

Those of us who are actually sane and sensible should just bow out and leave them to it.

Then they can just let rip and get it out of their systems..and we can quietly laugh at the more outlandish suggestions.

That's it.I'm walking away and I'll only come back if there is a moderating issue.

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I am not saying I believe they had her killed but I am open enough to say I do not know for sure.

I find it deeply insulting that you think those who think different to you are both insane and foolish where your totally closed mind makes you sensible and sane

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accepting the most likely and and most evidenced based solution as the truth is not being closed minded .Why would the Government of the day risk a crisis of the magnitude it would have been to murder Diana or Dodi ?

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Accepting that not everything we are told is the truth is open minded everything else is closed

I have no knowledge of how the secret services work who pulls the strings or anything. I believe they operate often outside the law but to what extent I do not know.

This case has been reopened for a reason I am sure it will be closed again soon with the same outcome. Whether that is the truth or not I can not be 100% sure

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It was a tragic incident cause in part by the paparazi and a driver that had a few drinks.

It really is/was as simple as that!

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So here we must have an eye witness statement because only someone who witnessed the event themselves know for definite what happened.

You can have faith you know what happened but that is all

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What I don't understand is if people are willing to accept the suggestion she was murdered then why would "they" have used a car crash which, as Derek said (and will have a good knowledge of) people can survive, her bodyguard being an example. High profile assassinations have occurred in the past by other methods, why not those? Why not while she was out of the country on one of her many charity missions?

I just doesn't make sense to me and there's far too much scope for it to go wrong. The secret services, SAS etc are clinical about this sort of thing. It just seems too haphazard for them or any other government "hit squad".

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I'm not a witness but as my clip from earlier showed I've been down that tunnel and seen for myself how bad the driving is especially from bikers. IMO that falls in line with the accounts of the paps on bikes driving dangerously. Add a drunk driver to the mix and again, it just makes sense.

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Well then the same applies to all the other 'theories' people have come up with. How could any of them been possible or happened if no one was there to witness it. All the evidence from the night leads to the accident being the only plausible outcome.

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*IF* they wanted to kill someone via car crash then I'm pretty sure there would be more suitable places to do this, accident on country road springs to mind, which would give far more scope for anyone not immediately killed to die from their injuries prior to medical attention, rather than in the middle of a city with all the associated potential witnesses and speedy medical attention.

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ok for an event to happen does not need someone there to see it for a start. If a tree falls in the woods and no one is around does it make a sound ?

If the only persons savvy to the plan were those involved and none of them ever spoke about it does that mean it could not happen?

For this thread to exist a story has been in the papers and the case I believe is opened? then there obviously is another plausible cause

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It makes the News Papers money on a dull non news weekend.

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I thought she survived the car crash and died later (of her injuries) at the hospital ?

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Nope. The Police have been approached with evidence from a second hand source and quite possibly a source with an axe to grind against the alleged perpetrator.

They haven't reopened the case but with such a high profile incident are looking into the claims to see if there is any merit to it whatsoever. If they just filed it in the bin certain sections would start screaming COVERUP!!!!

I'd imagine the end result will be the claims have the same merit as the ones made by the 'SAS member who was first through the balcony' in every pub up and down the land.

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AFAIK she was alive but the injuries were pretty much non survivable unless she happened to right beside a major surgery unit when the incident occurred.

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Actually people tend to believe what they want to believe regardless of the facts. I just find most people are just happy to go along with the official line regardlessly. At least those that believe in 'conspiracies' tend to know more of the facts to be able to scrutinize them (to whatever suits etc etc).

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does that make the events impossible?

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I don't think anyone is questioning the possibility, just the plausibility.

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so therefore there is an element of doubt which is all good and healthy :)

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As you'd get in any court case but people generally seem to accept the verdict there.

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yes, I am, which I stated earlier...

All I am saying is that we might do well to keep in mind we (the public) are not privy to a lot of information about a lot of things. Diana's death may be one of those things. I like to think keeping an open mind is a good way to be on things like this. it does NOT mean I automatically think something underhand was going on.

excuse me? get over myself? right-o. as for it being a joke, I shall repeat something that has been said to me in the past here on more than one occasion... you were missing the smiley to signify it was a joke. lastly, if you don't care and it doesn't interest you, then your post can only have been borne from a want to antagonise and stir. again, not very mature. and yes, if she wasn't wearing a seat belt, she should have been.

I quite agree with this statement. to blindly follow anyone or anything seems somewhat against human nature to me. we should encourage the questioning of information, its sources and its presentation, be that what our boss at work says to us, what the media relays to us, what the governments choose to tell us or what a study or survey appears to conclude. the only way to know something for sure is first-hand experience. anything beyond that is open to contamination, alteration, exaggeration, distortion and deletion.

perhaps a car crash in another country would appear all the more circumstantial and terrible in terms of getting the public on-side to believing what the media says? it would also distance our own governments and agencies in the minds of the public as it happened abroad and not in our own back yard. by appearing as an 'accident', people are far less likely to question it. people would definitely start asking more questions if she was abroad and had a bullet put in her head, I'm sure.

DON'T FORGET - I think this was an accident and that it is unlikely anything untoward went on here. however, I am in no way going to out-rightly dismiss the possibility that there are other powers and motives at play. it may not appear plausible, but that does not mean it's impossible something we don't know about has happened for reasons that we don't know about. we are merely the public.

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Make up your mind. Earlier you posted the following in response to my desription of the accident.

So what is it to be. For me stating what I believe to have happened, you claimed I need to be an eye witness yet now you state it doesn't need to be witnessed to have taken place?

If there was a plot to bump someone off then in a tunnel in a busy City is probably not the best way to go about it. As mentioned by Derek then an accident in the country would be a far better plan as there would be next to no witnesses or near by hospitals in case the collision didn't actually kill the intended victim(s).

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to be fair, there are many cases where miscarriages of justice have been recorded. an official verdict still does not mean fact 100% of the time. if there is any room for doubt, we must not dismiss other options - however to progress, we must assume one opinion or another, thus we accept the 'most likely' according to the evidence presented to us. I'm pretty sure that not a single one of us here was in the car Diana was in that night. this means we have gotten the information we are basing our opinion on from the second hand sources we have either been presented, or found ourselves - myself included when I say I believe this was an accident. but that doesn't mean it was an accident.

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If you need to signify a joke with a smiley then it probably wasn't worth telling in the first place and it wasn't to antagonise just to raise a smile and point out I wouldn't have opened the thread if it's title remotely referred to it's contents.

Yes she should've been, the one person in the vehicle who was survived, it's something that all the conspiracy theories overlook but something I'm sure highly trained assassins wouldn't, that the whole plot could fail if the potential victim is wearing a seatbelt.

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I'm not saying it would be a car crash but a nutjob assassin passing by with a gun, easily blamed by that country's government (or our own) as a local idiot wanting to make himself famous. An entire backstory could be 'invented'. When Diana was out helping clear landmines, why not a suicide bomber?

Assassination by car crash in the middle of Paris? Not likely.

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agreed. but then I also concede I may not know the full story, if at all there is one, therefore I do not know what motives or reasonings may have been applied. perhaps it was simply opportunistic for reasons such as someone in power with something to hide who didn't want her putting her nose in? who knows what she or her efforts may have uncovered in terms of what was going on with aid transfers in the third world, where a lot of her good work was carried out? or maybe she was planning to present information publicly that would have changed world views on someone or something which would have had a major effect on something big?

but yes, all in all, I believe it was an accident. regardless of why, how or what happened, I still think it's sad that no one in this thread so far has mentioned the fact that 2 young boys lost their mother and the world lost someone with the influence and backing to make a rare, positive difference.

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We may not know the full story but we've had 3 major investigations and numerous smaller ones, all coming back to the same conclusion. Reasonable doubt and all that?

I think that's because the thread is about an apparent revelation about how she died, not about who she left behind.

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well, like i said....

true. I still think it's a little sad that 'revelations' become more prevalent and important than the upset it can cause as a result of them.

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It's not that at all, what you're talking about (whilst a valid subject) would be pretty much a different topic. If revelations had come out about how the boys were treated, dealt with etc regarding her death then yes you'd have a point. Whilst I'm sure William and Harry won't be pleased about it they are both fully grown men now.

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misrepresentation
you said

you did not say you believe it happened you said it is/was. If you was to have said you believe it was then you would have a point but you did not so you do not

Re: I suggest you read this - New info about Princess Diana death
 

fair point - yes it would be another topic.

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perhaps the 'plot' wasn't necessarily to kill, but to 'send a message', but it went wrong...? there are so many different questions and options open that we realistically, as members of the public who are in no way able to get ALL the information on this case, able to certifiably guarantee that what we have been told is the whole fact of the matter.

to believe we do get told absolutely everything about absolutely everything is naive in my opinion. we can certainly make a personal judgement and create our own beliefs on any given topic, but these will always be built on the information provided or available to us. I think this is what Tizmeinnit is trying to get at. just because you have been told something does not mean it contains the facts, either as a whole, nor in part. He is not necessarily trying to say something underhand IS at play, but that we cannot definitely say there ISN'T. the point is, we simply do not know. however, we can form our own opinion and beliefs but should allow for the possibility that other conclusions, although not always likely, are still plausible. (apologies to Tizmeinnit if this isn't what you mean!)

Re: I suggest you read this - New info about Princess Diana death
 

I think there's quite a difference between not believing everything we're told - which is fair enough - and refusing to accept the findings of multiple investigations, with zero evidence to back it up with.

Re: I suggest you read this - New info about Princess Diana death
 

yes, which is why I said earlier if there is any room for doubt, we must not dismiss other options - however to progress, we must assume one opinion or another, thus we accept the 'most likely' according to the evidence presented to us. things cannot remain unresolved for ever. we may not like it, we may not believe it, the conclusion may not even be the facts, but we have to get on with it. we can, however, still hold onto that bit of doubt and continue to question. that in itself is no bad thing. how we hold onto it and how we question it is another story.

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Lets look at it this way. Someone in high government take orders off the royal family, as it is stated in the media today - not one, but several papers, have said that they have a letter from a soldier.

It is claimed an SAS officer killed Diana, that order only comes from high office.

I still believe she was murdered, to stop her getting married to Dodi.

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What if the letter was written by David Cameron, would you believe it then?

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Except they don't. What they have is a letter from the EX parents in law of a soldier.

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what i want to know is ,was there a grassy knoll involved

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Not sure if we will ever find out the truth

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Irrespective of the the letter, IF the SAS did kill Diana, this order can only come from a high ranking MP.

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Except they didn't kill her, the injuries sustained in the car accident killed her.

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Everyone think of this.

Where is the Fiat Uno - invloed in the crash, disappeared.

Why doesn't the French government show the CCTV of the tunnel at the time of the accident..

I think that if this is shown then the whole story willcome out and we will finally know the truth.

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what would it take to connivance you there isn't a cover up going on?

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Why do people worry about it 16 or so years later.
I would suggest 99.9% of the population has more important things to worry about.

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Arthur I've been down that tunnel - there is no CCTV.

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you're trying to convince a conspiracy theorist of that , good luck

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Perfect place to kill someone then isn't it.

My main reasons are:

Where is the Fiat Uno, why would someone make up a story like this letter ? I believe there is a cover up, and l would love to know the truth. Yes, it may have been a tragic accident - but why cover up so much.