Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 4.
 

This is a continuation of all the 'Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 1, 2 and 3' thread which you can find here:

VOL. 1 - http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/11...-2013-vol.html
VOL. 2 - http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/11...-2013-vol.html
VOL. 3 - http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/11...-2013-vol.html

1. The old thread has been closed, but will remain for information purposes;
2. I will collate all the information from my various sources and post an list update every month, indicating any changed items in bold text;

In addition to that I will be on hand to answer any questions that arise and to provide links to other sources of information as they come up.

Thank you

August List update - August 6th update.

Keep up-to-date on the latest news on upcoming channel launches and other important events across all platforms of Virgin TV network.

NOTE: I do not work for Virgin Media so all the information on this list is subject to change.

Colours on my list are as followed:

Media Boy = New Info just added.
Media Boy = Been added in the last month.
Media Boy = Virgin Media News and links.
Media Boy = Other Media news/Things.

=== Coming up on Virgin's Digital TV ===
=== Rumour to be Launching very soon ===
The following channels may launch soon on Virgin Media:
-The Active Channel (Confirmed by Virgin on Facebook).
-BT Sports 1 (Rumour started 06/07/13).
-BT Sports 1 HD (Rumour started 06/07/13).
-BT Sports 2 (Rumour started 06/07/13).
-BT Sports 2 HD (Rumour started 06/07/13).
-E! HD (Rumour started 21/02/13).
-Sky Atlantic (Rumour started 06/07/13).
-Universal Channel HD (Rumour started 21/02/13).

=== August ===
17th. Sky Sports 1 is to rebroadcast on Sky2 and Pick TV today on Virgin Channels 123 and 180.
17th. Sky Movies 007 will be rebranded as Sky Movies Superhero on Virgin Channel 410.
17th. Sky Movies 007 HD will be rebranded as Sky Movies Superhero HD on Virgin Channel 440.
18th. Sky Movies Superhero will be rebranded as Sky Movies Greats on Virgin Channel 410.
18th. Sky Movies Superhero HD will be rebranded as Sky Movies Greats HD on Virgin Channel 440.

=== Autumn ===
Lifetime to replace Bio on Virgin Channel 242.
'Seven' will be rebranded as Lincolnshire Living on Virgin Channel 879 (Grimsby & Scunthorpe only) in late Autumn.

=== September ===
1st. Sky Sports are to rebrand Sky Sports Ashes as Sky Sports 2 on Virgin Channel 512.
1st. Sky Sports are to rebrand Sky Sports Ashes HD as Sky Sports 2 HD on Virgin Channel 518.

=== October ===
1st. Virgin Media to put the cost of Sky Sports up.

=== November ===
-Made in Leeds will launch on Virgin Media sometime this month on Virgin Channel 159.

=== December ===
No News...

=== By Early 2014 ===
The BBC to launch BBC News HD, BBC Three HD, BBC Four HD, CBeebies HD and CBBC HD on Virgin Media.

=== January 2014 ===
No News...

=== February 2014 ===
No News...

=== March 2014 ===
6th. Local TV broadcaster London Live hope to launch on Virgin Channel 159 today.

=== April 2014 ===
No News...

=== May 2014 ===
No News...

=== June 2014 ===
No News...

=== July 2014 ===
No News...

=== August 2014 ===
No News...

=== September 2014 ===
No News...

=== October 2014 ===
No News...

=== November 2014 ===
No News...

=== December 2014 ===
No News...

=== By 2015 ===
-RTE Radio and WRN Radio will be axe in old Telewest areas or added to all areas of Virgin Media.

=== Not Confirmed as coming ===
-BT and Virgin Media has confirmed that Virgin Media are in talks with BT over the BT Sports Channels.
(UPDATED July 9th) Broadcastnow is reporting that Virgin Media are in new talks with Sky to carry 'Sky Atlantic SD', 'Sky News HD' and 'Sky Sports News HD'.
-Drama, MTV CLASSIC, HISTORY HD, CI +1 and CI HD all may launch soon on Virgin Media.
-Fashion One 'In talks with Virgin Media' - no updates in months.
-Sony Movies may launch soon on Virgin Media - no updates since August 2012.

=== Unknown dates ===
-Local TV may launch on Virgin TV in some areas on Virgin Channel 159 (Starting in Late 2013).
-The BBC to axe BBC Radio 4 LW on Virgin Channel 911 ''in the long term''.
-The BBC hope to launch English regional variants of its existing BBC One HD service as well as Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland editions of BBC Two HD - but still need to be approved by the BBC Trust.
-Smooth fm (Smooth Radio) may get close or rebranded on Virgin Channel 916.

=== Channels THAT still to appear in all areas ===
List was last updated on July 12th 2013.

NO. Channel Name
917. Radio: RTE Radio
920. Radio: WRN Europe (Also in UPC Ireland areas)

NOTE: Channels are only broadcasting in Ex-Telewest areas right now.

=== Media Boy Extra info: ===
Liberty Global - http://www.lgi.com/
Media Boy Blog - For all things Virgin TV - http://mediaboyblog.blogspot.com/
See Virgin Media on ''twitter'' here - http://twitter.com/virginmedia
See Nialli's blog on Virgin Media High Definition & TiVo Services here - http://vmhd.blogspot.com/

==== Virgin Media's Deals with broadcasters ===
This part has now move to link called 'Own by'.

==== See you later ===
List last updated on August 1st 2013.

Next update: Later in August - unless:

A) If Virgin are set to launch more than TWO channels (TV or Radio) on Virgin TV.
B) If Virgin are set to move more than TWO channels (TV or Radio) about on Virgin TV.
C) If Virgin are set to close or repackage more then TWO channels (TV or Radio ) on Virgin TV.

Did I miss anything??? If I did tell me and it will appear on the next update.

©copyright 2013 Media Boy 2006 - 2013. An ''Keep it real and free'' Production.

ALL OF MY LINKS ARE UNDER THE LINE.

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Well lets hope we have some good news soon on this thread.:)

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August 2013 update - August 6th updates.

Keep up-to-date on what broadcasters own and do not own.

NOTE: The post will be updated every time Virgin Media signs no deal with broadcasters or when an new channels is set to launch from that broadcaster.

==== Virgin Media's Deals with broadcasters ===
List last updated on August 1st 2013.

Welcome to the all new look of this part of the list.

When deals with broadcasters run out Virgin Media need to sign new one to keep that Channel on Virgin TV.
Here is an list of channel that Virgin may get when they old deal runs out with that broadcaster:
Also Radio channels are broadcasting on Digital Radio via Freesat, Freeview, Freesat from Sky, Sky or UPC Ireland.

NOTE: Shopping Channels NOW ADDED to this list and only Broadcasts who has got some Channels broadcasting on Virgin Media right now appeared on this list. To start broadcasting soon = That channel has still to start broadcasting on UPC Ireland, Sky, Freesat or Freeview.

=== TV and Radio Channels: ===
=== Own by A+E Networks UK (A+E Networks/British Sky Broadcasting) ===
-Bio. + 1 (Channel only broadcast from 5am to 7am -- holding channel for Lifetime HD?).
-CI HD (Broadcasts in UPC Ireland areas right now).
-CI +1
-HISTORY HD (Broadcasts in UPC Ireland areas right now).
-Lifetime (Set to launch in late 2013 - Bio set to close to make way.)

=== Own by Active Channel Limited ===
-The Active Channel

=== Own by Al Jazeera ===
-Jeem.TV

=== Own by ARY Group ===
-ARY Qtv
-ARY Oneworld

=== Own by BET International Inc (Viacom) ===
-BET: Black Ent Tv +1

=== Own by British Sky Broadcasting ===
-Pick TV +1
-Sky1 +1
-Sky 3D
-Sky Atlantic (Rumour as set to launch on Virgin Media)
-Sky Atlantic +1
-Sky Atlantic HD (Rumour as set to launch on Virgin Media)
-Sky News HD (Broadcasts in UPC Ireland areas right now).
-SkyPoker.com
-Sky Sports F1 HD
-Sky Sports 3 HD
-Sky Sports 4 HD
-Sky Sports News HD (Broadcasts in UPC Ireland areas right now).

=== Own by British Sky Broadcasting/Abu Dhabi Media Investment Corporation ===
-Sky News Arabia

=== Own by British Telecommunications Plc ===
-BT Sports 1
-BT Sports 1 HD
-BT Sports 2
-BT Sports 2 HD
-ESPN [From BT]
-ESPN HD [From BT]

=== Own by CBS Chellozone UK Channels Partnership ===
-CBS Reality +1
-Horror +1
-Reality TV

=== Own by Channel Four Television Corporation ===
-More 4 HD

=== Own by CSC Media Group ===
-Bliss
-BuzMuzik
-Chart Show TV
-Chart Show TV Dance
-Flava
-Kix
-Kix Power (Soon to start broadcasting)
-POP
-Pop Girl
-Pop Girl +1 (Soon to stop broadcasting)
-Scuzz
-The Vault
-Tiny Pop +1

=== Own by Disney-ABC Television Group ===
-Disney Channel HD (Broadcasts in UPC Ireland areas right now).
-Disney Junior +
-Disney Junior HD
-Disney XD HD

=== Own by Entertainment Networks (UK) Limited (Sony Pictures Television) ===
-More Than Movies
-More Than Movies +1
-Movies 4 Men
-Movies 4 Men +1

=== Own by ESPN Inc. (until July 31st 2013) ===
-ESPN America HD (Channel will close on July 31st).

=== Own by Eternal Word Television Network ===
-EWTN (Broadcasts in UPC Ireland areas right now).

=== Own by Fox International Channels (News Corporation) ===
-FOX +1

=== Own by Global Music Television (Global Radio) ===
-Capital FM TV
-Heart FM TV

=== Own by Ideal Shopping Direct plc ===
-Ideal Extra
-The Deal Channel

=== Own by MGM Channel (UK) Limited (Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer/British Sky Broadcasting) ===
-MGM HD (Broadcasts in UPC Ireland areas right now).

=== Own by Michel Adam Lisowski ===
-Fashion TV (Broadcasts in UPC Ireland areas right now).

=== Own by Moving Movies Ltd. (CSC Media Group) ===
-True Drama
-True Movies 2

=== Own by MTV Networks Europe ===
-MTV CLASSIC (Broadcasts in UPC Ireland areas right now).
-MTV LIVE
-MTV +1

=== Own by NGC-UK Partnership (National Geographic Society/Fox International Channels) ===
-Nat Wild HD (Broadcasts in UPC Ireland areas right now).

=== Own by Nickelodeon UK (MTV Networks Europe/British Sky Broadcasting) ===
-Nick Jr. +1

=== Own by Paramount UK Partnership (Paramount British Pictures/British Sky Broadcasting) ===
-Comedy Central Extra +1

=== Own by Premier Media ===
-Premier Sports

=== Own by QVC (Liberty Media) ===
-QVC Beauty
-QVC Style
-Sparkle TV

=== Own by Radio Caroline Ltd. ===
-Radio Caroline (Broadcasts in UPC Ireland areas right now).

=== Own by Raidió Teilifís Éireann ===
-RTÉ 2fm (Broadcasts in UPC Ireland areas right now).
-RTÉ lyric fm (Broadcasts in UPC Ireland areas right now).
-RTE Radio 1 (Broadcasts in Ex-Telewest and UPC Ireland areas right now).
-RTÉ Raidió na Gaeltachta (Broadcasts in UPC Ireland areas right now).

=== Own by Real & Smooth Ltd [Was GMG Radio] (Global Radio) ===
-Real Radio Wales

=== Own by Scripps Networks Interactive ===
-Food Network +1

=== Own by Sony Pictures Television ===
-Sony Entertainment Television +1
-Sony Movie Channel
-Sony Movie Channel +1

=== Own by STAR TV (News Corporation) ===
-STAR Jalsha
-STAR Plus HD

=== Own by TIML Radio Limited ===
-Absolute 90s

=== Own by Travel Channel International Ltd. (Scripps Networks Interactive) ===
-Travel Channel + 1

=== Own by UKTV ===
-Drama (Virgin Media still in talks - now broadcasting on Freeview and Sky.)

=== Own by United Christian Broadcasters ===
-UCB TV
-UCB Bible
-UCB Gospel
-UCB Inspiration
-UCB Ireland (Broadcasts in UPC Ireland areas right now).

=== Own by Universal Networks International ===
-E! HD
-Universal Channel HD

=== Own by WRN Broadcast ===
-WRN Radio (Broadcasts in Ex-Telewest and UPC Ireland areas right now).

=== Own by Zee Entertainment Enterprises ===
-ZEE News

NOTE TO ALL: Virgin Media and UPC Ireland are now both own by Liberty Global.

=== Media Boy Extra info: ===
Liberty Global - http://www.lgi.com/
Media Boy Blog - For all things Virgin TV - http://mediaboyblog.blogspot.com/
See Virgin Media on ''twitter'' here - http://twitter.com/virginmedia
See Nialli's blog on Virgin Media High Definition & TiVo Services here - http://vmhd.blogspot.com/

=== Ask Media Boy ===
Last updated July 17th 2013.

Q: WHERE DO YOU GET YOUR INFORMATION ABOUT VIRGIN MEDIA FROM?
A: I get all my info from Virgin Media viewers, some Virgin Media workers (I called them Virgin Insiders) and Web Sites (NOTE: When I used web sites I will post an link to that web site).

Q: WHY HAVE YOU ADDED 'ONLY IN UPC IRELAND AREAS' WHEN THIS THREAD IS FOR VIRGIN MEDIA?
A: Virgin Media and UPC Ireland are now both own by Liberty Global.

Q: WHY AM I NOT GETTING ''RTE RADIO'' FOR?
A: RTE Radio do not broadcast in Ex-ntl and Ex-Cable & Wireless areas - yet.

Q: WHY AM I NOT GETTING ''HISTORY HD'' OR ''DISNEY CHANNEL HD'' FOR?
A: HISTORY HD and Disney Channel HD is only broadcasting in UPC Ireland areas right now.

Q: WHAT HAPPENS TO RECORDINGS I'VE MADE FROM THE ESPN CHANNELS AFTER JULY 31ST?
A: Anything you’ve recorded from ESPN, ESPN HD, ESPN America and ESPN Classic will be there to enjoy until 1 November 2013. After that, they’ll disappear.

==== See you later ===
List last updated on August 1st 2013.

Next update: TBC.

Did I miss anything??? If I did tell me and it will appear on the next update.

©copyright 2013 Media Boy 2006 - 2013. An ''Keep it real and free'' Production.

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 4.
 

Well, thanks to last weeks fun, Volume 3 racked up 4,781 views. Second highest view total ever, Volume 3 in 2011 bettered it with 5,643 views. Already in 2013, excluding this new volume, MB's threads have racked up 10,547 views. Outstanding.

Now for more mindless drivel. Sorry speculation.

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yes we all hope so Den

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You can always hope :)

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Now let's have a bit of quiet on this thread until there's actually something to report. Please!;)

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https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2013/08/38.jpg

Coming soon becomes rumour started lmao

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Come on OB do you really think people are going to take notice of that.:no::waving:

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No Den but less squabbling and "trolling" by some would be nice...

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:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

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Indeed it would but only the mods can sort that out Doug.

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Couldn't agree more. I come on here after 12 hours and find 20 pages of absolute ( you know what )

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It would help if some people stopped baiting others.

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I have got the poor man TiVo - An V+ Box so can only get upto 4am on Monday Night.

So can anyone with TiVo confirm what TCM2 listing say next Tuesday night?

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got the programme names as normal MB just checked

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Gunsmoke, Suspect zero, Executive decision and a talent for loving

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I hope this thread can remain more on topic this time too many pages in the last thread had no coming soon news what so ever

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20.00 Gunsmoke 21.00 Gunsmoke 22.00 Suspect zero 23.55 Executive decision 02.20 A talent for loving 04.00 Close mollda beat me to it

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Mmm...

An old Sky box says 'Channel no longer broadcasting'.

TCM2 is set to close next Tuesday to make way for TCM +1 to launch on Sky - Still not confirmed yet for Virgin Media.

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You are quite right, I do apologise. On topic now.

Where is Drama Virgin?

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On the Sky EPG TCM 2 programming from 4am on the 13/08/2013 says programmes no longer available.

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Wasnt there last year a holiday embargo preventing major changes?, could that be holding up a few items like Drama, maybe going towards a big release date rather than minor changes, i.e. see if BT is coming along and do one "big" change along with supposed other ones like Universal and E in HD which have been rumoured to be coming since Febuary

pure, pure speculation I hold my hands up on this point

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Seen no launch date or channel number yet.

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think it very safe to say there is nothing coming till VM know outcome of the talks with BT

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As far as I know that is only over Christmas and New Year.

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With the starting of this new thread - only relevant posts will be tolerated. Everything else outside of this threads purpose and remit we may delete without any notice.

In addition - I found it rather pathetic how some people behaved like it was the school playground in the last thread. "He said, she said, they said" - it belongs in the school playground.

If people do not have anything civil to say to one another, then do not say it at all. I will not tolerate people name calling other people, again this is playground stuff.

The team have a duty to come down heavy on anyone who disobeys a moderator instruction, we are not here to debate our site policies with people, people can either respect the sites rules or if people choose not to abide by them, then they simply will not be permitted to use this site at all.

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I have just this minute spoken to the Customer Services (06/8/2013 at 3.35pm) via an email to the CEO's office regarding BT Sport / ESPN on the EPG.

They are still in talks with BT Sports and have not got any idea about a deal yet, as for the ESPN still on the EPG, they cannot take it off yet.

I have asked them why they don't advise customers of the problem - they have said juswt watch the updates, l have said that it never updated, they have said they cannot update it as they don't know what is happening

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Does anyone know why i'm getting calls from virgin media on 0800 408 9340? I put my number down in regards to information about BT sport would this be why? Or is it to get me to sign up to a new contract since i'm technically out of contract now?

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Is Atlantic coming soon.........:tiptoe::bump:

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They're probably calling to offer you a deal, they've rang my mobile before and upgraded to 1TB TiVo for free

---------- Post added at 17:01 ---------- Previous post was at 16:59 ----------

Well Drama is definitely coming soon as confirmed by Drama themselves. I'm still hoping for E! HD though despite it being 6 months since the initial rumour. Starting to think if that and Universal HD were going to launch then they would have launched at the same time as Style did

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I was told the other Sunday that it is coming "very soon".

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Well l shall look into my working crystal ball to see what thy is arriving on the horizon.:D

---------- Post added at 17:34 ---------- Previous post was at 17:33 ----------

Is that this week , next week or next year?.

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From what l gather from my conversation today - the answer to Atlantic is NO.

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Remind me folks why have Sky removed the exclusive tag from Atlantic?

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For the upcoming launch on Now TV.

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In my mind its just a matter of time before Sky agrees carriage deals with other providers.

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I work in a call centre so i can't ever answer it...grrr

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Has a date been announced anywhere yet? I know it was mentioned as coming when Now TV was first announced but have heard nothing since. Be interesting to see what the price is.

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Chad posted some (I think leaked) text stating it was £9.99 a month for Sky1, Living, Arts & Atlantic.

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Thanks for the info, I remember when Now TV was first announced they bundled those four channels together in their press release so makes sense it would be one sub for all four channels.

Probably not for me unless they archive content, shame as it doesn't seem to be coming to VM anytime soon.

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"It’s showtime, now. Loose yourself in the smartest, sharpest and most
addictive TV shows from ten of Sky’s top channels, including Sky 1, Sky
Living, Sky Atlantic and Sky Arts. It’s only £9.99 for your month pass.
Watch live, catch up on missed episodes or see entire series,
on a whole load of devices. Entertainment this good? Don’t
miss a thing."

It was divulged as part of some marketing research I was participating in. I can't confirm the source but it's a direct quote lifted from the material I viewed.

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Remind me not to tell you my trade secrets :D

Though not too worried, I have no trade secrets

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Trouble is, VM users have got all those channels already, except for Atlantic. If they don't give an Atlantic only option, then it's way too expensively priced for VM users IMHO.

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We have had a good number of new channels over the last year, and we are grateful for that, but many have been fairly low quality or low interest channels. I hope now under Liberty management we can look forward to getting all the channels we would expect to see on the cable platform.

At the very least, we should have Sky Atlantic/HD, Drama, More Movies, MGM HD, Sony Movies, BT Sports 1 and 2/HD and ESPN/HD, all of which are prominently set out in listings magazines such as TV and Satellite Week. Other HD channels that we do not presently have should also be added.

Additionally, Virgin Media should put on a decent choice of 3D material, and if this cannot be done through video on demand, a deal should be done with Sky for Sky 3D.

Just by doing this, it will encourage more people over to Virgin Media as we will no longer be regarded by satellite viewers as the 'poor relation'. That will bring more money into VM and help them to improve services further.

It is heartbreaking to see the possibilities with the TIVO box not being exploited. I thought we would at least have access to Lovefilm or Netflix by now - this was being mooted well over a year ago. Only a small number of the apps VM have given us are worth having. Personally, I only use the i-Player, news, weather and You-Tube, which is a poor relation of the internet version. Such a shame. Such a wasted opportunity.

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Maybe that is the plan..attract others..and price it so that you need to pay full price to see atlantic

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The product isn't specifically aimed at pay TV customers its been designed to attract those who've so far not adopted pay TV due to long contracts and pricey subscription packs.

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l agree its too pricey in my opinion as well.

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As I pointed out in vol. 3 they could still keep the exclusivity label as both services are operated by BSkyB.

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I agree however it's a nice addition for Freeview customers who maybe want access to SKY programming but don't want to pay a substantial subscription cost each month.

I must admit I'm really impressed with some of the options on the market. Samsung Smart TV's have catch up TV available for free on BBC, ITV, Channel 4 and Channel 5. You can also access Netflix, Lovefilm and Blinkbox. Whilst Now TV is exclusive to LG Smart TV's for the next 12 months, it will be available next year to Samsung. With 10 new HD channels launching on Freeview within the next 12 months, a Smart TV and Now TV subscription for the SKY basic channels will be a very attractive option to some households.

Youview could become defunct as more and more new TV's are Smart as standard.

Sorry to go way off topic.

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AFAIK VM are the only platform that remain commited to 3D and have announced plans for more VOD 3D content.

As 3D hasn't really taken off and Sky have partially unencrypted their own 3D channel to try and improve ratings, it wouldn't surprise me if Sky 3D appeared on VM. It's no longer the draw for customets that Sky obviously thought it would be.

Indeed.

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If I was to get rid of sky, and not want Virgin, I do have a smart tv and broadband, so maybe an option (no Aerial at present).

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Agreed; that's what it's for. It could mean that VM will lose out on Atlantic (again) because it doesn't make economic sense for VM users.

If they don't offer an Atlantic only option, I guess we'll have to wait until they are discounting the entertainment pack at £9.99 for six months, similar to the current offer on the movies part of Now TV ;)

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SA aint coming to VM sooner the people accept this the better

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I suspect you are right

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Well said

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Oh my thy pessimism is very prevalent tonight.

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Sky is the brand name, BSkyB is the company - Now TV is it own brand, so its not still exclusive to Sky at all. If this wasn't the case they wouldn't be changing the language.

Stop trying to invent reasons to speculate (AGAIN).

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exactly SA will only be going on now tv so not exclusive to sky platform that's only reason they dropped word exclusive it not coming to VM

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You don't have any credible source for your )belief, do you? It is coming within the next two or three months, and it may be sooner than that.

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and where is your credible source saying that you don't have one do you the fact is no way will VM pay the over the top asking price sky are asking for SA and sky have never dropped price on anything unless forced to by Ofcom SA aint coming anytime soon and another reason sky don't want to make VM better value than sky which it would be if sky give SA to VM no way sky will want to lose customers to VM and remember sky think SA is a big selling point in people choosing sky other other platforms SA will only go to now tv no where else

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Whilst your asking Dave for his credible source you won't mind me asking you for yours ? It may well come who knows , certainly not us that's for sure.

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As I mentioned in a DS forum post, Sky make a loss on Atlantic excluding new subscriptions. If you base it on Ad Revenue/Rights alone, the viewing figures are too low. By being available on VM they have a guaranteed amount of money coming in each month. Most of their recent subscriptions in the last 1/2 months are probably for those wanting BT Sport, the buzz around Atlantic has died down a little.

If sky operated Atlantic and they didn't have any other channels and they didn't own a platform and it was getting the current amount of viewers it would crash and fall. The last few years the subscription uptake has helped fund that and I'm sure the guaranteed income from Virgin of probably keep it afloat.

If we said SD and HD came with SD at 25p per customer and HD at 30p per customer (baring in mind VM is now around £3 better off per customer a month at the moment)

4 million M+ to XL recieve SD = £1 million
1.8 million XL recieve HD = £540,000

So virgin pay Sky £1.5 million a month for Atlantic, if I was Sky I'd probably shake on that, it's equivalent to 77,000 basic Sky subscriptions without any additional cost. Especially now the hype for it has died down.

And before you say where would they get the money, Virgin used to pay ESPN (based on £3 per XL customer has quoted previously) £5.5 million (without any non-XL subs), so they have the more than enough money going spare.

Now TV is great but can you expect 154,000 people signing up? That what they would need to get the same amount of money as VM, plus they have additional costs involved in hosting the streams (they already host them with sky go, but the additional bandwidth required).

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yes I have used that argument about SA in past that they make much more money but sky don't seem bothered about that there using it to try get people to get sky and I don't think they have changed there stance on SA

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But the people who really want Atlantic would have moved by now, the latest new Sky subs are people who are moving for BT, now Sky are going to have to be reliant on advertising revenue, but even the biggest show around at the moment (Game of Thrones) has struggled to pull in over a million every week despite the fact the channel is available to 10 million people.

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yes I agree lets hope I am wrong and it will come but I cant see it coming

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Woah, Woah, Woah people.

This is the coming soon thread - The words 'credible' and 'sources' are banned on here

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ESPN America removed from guide!

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well that channel no more in uk only ESPN and ESPN HD now

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I am given it serious consideration to moving to sky, as I am a rugby fan and BT have the rights. I emailed the CEO's office and received a phone call today. I was not offered any reductions or offers, the woman I spoke to just apologised for the uncertainty and advised me to wait a bit longer before moving to sky as I am out of contract.
Whether she was just trying to keep me as a customer or there is news coming is any ones guess.
I'm happy to wait a bit longer though as the first match isn't till September. If no news by then I will find it hard not to switch. Although I would definitely miss TiVo, superior BB and guaranteed picture in bad wether.

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ESPN Classic was removed too.

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But alas nothing added but lets hope that changes soon.:)

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Ongoing theme here. This is what I find so unprofessional about VM. it's not the not being able to get the channel saga. I understand they're trying to get us the channel on the best terms.

It's just the ongoing lies from the company about it all

"we'll have good news in a few days"
"dont do anything yet we have a break through"
"expect information by the end of the week"
"hold tight dont leave virgin yet we have an announcement soon"

Again i don't care if they thought they would have a deal soon but then it collapsed. DO NOT HINT AT ANYTHING IF THERE IS A POSSIBILITY IT MAY NOT COME TRUE. It makes you look unprofessional, amateur, desperate/panicky to keep customers and makes the whole organisation look like its run by chuckles the clown.

Thats why i'm tempted to leave VM. i know they're trying to get us a good deal but its the amateur way they're calling me every day hinting at some sort of deal which quite clearly is never coming

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During the days of NASN and the early years on ESPN America it was a great channel for all American Sports fans sadly it has gone down hill over the last year and now is no more.:(

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3D is a nearly dead duck imo....

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Got to agree Dave.

http://cadm.sky.com/pisa/

"A basic thing to know about Sky is that the majority of our revenue comes from subscription not advertising, which means we don’t need people to watch every minute of every day - but what we do need shows that prompt people to subscribe and keep them with us once they’ve subscribed."

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Its very much a niche product for the few diehards.

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Sky isn't reliant on advertising like the FTA broadcasters in fact advertising only represented around £440 million in revenue in 2013 when compared to near £6 billion in subscription revenue as Chads post points out Atlantic is equally used for retaining customers also.

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That's some very interesting info, didn't realise that.

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Yes but as I pointed out, Atlantic hasn't got a massive hype anymore, most of the recent subscriptions will be for people wanting BT Sport. Let's be honest if you really wanted Atlantic you would have gone by now.

I'm sure the extra £18 million (based on my calculations) plus the addition ad revenue they can draw in through higher reach is worth it, there are no additional costs involved by adding to virgin as virgin take the sat stream and do all the work for them, basically it's a free £18 million.

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I still think virgin media shot themselves in the foot by selling their share in UkTV. They weren't that valuable but at least it gave them something to bring to the table.

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How often do people upgrade their sets. Maybe every six years? I've not been interested in 3D because my old set could not do 3D. My new Sony W9 can and it's amazing. Much better than the cinema as well. Everyone who has seen it has been impressed. I think it's more a case of the industry expected it to move alot quicker than it has but people don't have alot of money to throw around and TV's are not a priority in hard times.

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here somethimg you like to know about bt and sky that if it as not been posted on here .
Sky Sports not available on BT YouView for football start off the season 2013/2014

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/news/...son-start.html

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Notice how they are running to ofcom, claiming Sky are charging too much. Aren't they doing the same to vm?

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BT have bleated over all sorts of things. Tough to know what they are happy about.

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Alas, we do not know that Top banana. You may very well be right, but personally I think it is more likely BT are holding off on signing a deal until the last minute to try and get more BB customers from VM.

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The last minute has passed. The channels have already launched.

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Totally agree,I said it when they sold them and I told the CEOs office the same.That will constantly come back and bite them in the bum :(

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The Broadcast website has reported that Sky and Virgin are close to an agreement and there are other sources that have led me to my conclusion. I was just trying to make the point that it has not been reported anywhere to the best of my knowledge that Sky Atlantic is not coming to VM but your assertion was stated as fact. I respect that it may be your opinion.

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A lot of people are thinking that way Vince, but the reality is that VM is in negotiations with BT and cannot say any more at the moment without jeopardising their negotiating position. I think VM are quietly confident that a deal will be done, but they cannot reveal their hand at this stage.

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Don't forget what they got in return for those channels from Sky. I think the sense of the strategy may make more sense to us in due course, but of course there is nothing to stop VM from commissioning other providers to give us new exclusive channels or programming if they want to do so.

I think VM realised that Sky's tactics meant that the price of new shows, etc would escalate rapidly as the two companies sought to get all the best programmes for their own channels. VM didn't have the resources to play Sky's game and in the end there would only be one winner.

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If you watch a blu-ray 3D film on a compatible TV it is stunning.
Unfortunately the movies on TV are only at 720p, which degrades the experience.
Until the TV companies can transmit in a higher resolution, I'm afraid that we won't see too much 3D coming soon (see how I stayed on topic):)

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It won't come anytime soon with the BBC abandoning it after this year....

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To be fair the £18 million figure is pure guesswork , none of us know whats going on behind the scenes with negotiations , as I've said I believe its as much about keeping customers as attracting new ones , if you keep customers you have the ability to upsell something VM themselves have been excellent at with TIVO and faster BB speeds.

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To be fair, the BBC are cash-strapped at the moment, don't forget they were considering the closure of some of their channels recently and they have cut back on their already meagre funding for BBC 4.

I think it is up to the likes of Sky with their big pockets to promote 3D and make it a success. Very few can afford 3D TV at present, but the price of these TVs is coming down rapidly, so we could see more interest over the next few years.

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I have to agree.

Behind the scenes SKY have been conducting feedback sessions on how much value SKY customers put on SKY Atlantic. You may have seen it yourself or even participated on that SKY site we are both members of.

Plenty of feedback suggesting it's SKY Atlantic programming that keeps current customers with SKY. Plenty more feedback suggesting SKY customers would consider moving provider should SKY Atlantic be made available on other platforms.

You know and I know, from other things we've participated in for reasearch purposes on behalf of SKY, that they take feedback from existing customers very seriously. For this reason alone I have doubts SKY Atlantic will ever become available on other platforms.

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Having given my 30 days notice to leave virgin, got a call from someone at Virgin on a 0800 number, seeing what they could do to keep me to stay. Listened to what that had to say, and all they could offer was to reduce my services in order to reduce my bill. They would not offer any discount to my current bill. Told them very politely no thanks. Deal with Sky/BT much cheaper, plus also BT Sports and Sky Atlantic. She did say that they were still in discussions with BT and was hopeful they would have it by the end of the month. No guarantees though. Also mentioned there is nothing further on SKY Atlantic and no deal was close.

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I don't think VM will be getting Sky Atlantic, BT sports probably in time...

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Closure of what channels? They are launching them? With all channels (except parliament) going HD by early next year!

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Virgin got nothing out of Sky through the sale of their stake in UKTV.

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1080i, actually.

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Yep, roll on 1080p :)