Spain and Gibraltar
 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23567976

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Spanish police shot at a jetski in Gibraltarian waters, and Spanish fighter jets entered Gibraltarian airspace recently.... is all this a calculated attempt to cause tension?

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Simple answer

We could tax every flight leaving the UK to ANY Spanish destination with a £43.00 tax on every passenger each way. Lets see how fast they change there minds when they start to lose holidays makers to there holiday destinations. :D

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Surely imposing specific charges to enter/exit a single territory is against all manner of EU rules and we all know how every member of the EU sticks to every rule and diktat to the letter :erm:

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Whats the betting that WE are in the wrong if the bureaucrats in Brussels get hold of this. :rolleyes:

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Very unlikely since Spain are the ones doing it. Unless the reef is a problem.

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Time will tell.

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Doubt this is more than sabre rattling....

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I suggest everyone thinking about heading to Spain for a holiday in the foreseeable future drops a line to their embassy here suggesting they'll go somewhere else instead. That might focus a few minds in Madrid.

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I think they are upset that Blair didn't give them Gib..... and are trying to divert national attention away from their real problems... as did the Argies...

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Maybe but i think we can rattle those sabres better than they can. :LOL:

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Gets my vote, lets do it.

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they charge handsomely for the Severn bridge :dozey:

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The snag is that those lorries would be carrying supplies for Gibraltar.

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That's one option, probably run by a private company, to go from one part of the UK to another. It's not the only way to enter and exit and Wales and Scotland aren separate entities in the EU.

If Spain decided to put a tax on the crossing point to Gibraltar surely it would have impose the same tax on all the crossings to France.

The UK couldn't just impose a tariff on flights coming from Romania and claim it was an ATM skimmer tax. They would be hauled up in front of the EU very quickly and told in no uncertain terms to bin it.

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We could ship the supplies in and give a boost to our suppliers.

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It's too small to be able to provide it's own supplies eg food.

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So why can we not ship it in from the UK ?

You can bet that the EU will blame us for this.

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We should definitely send a ship. And it should be escorted by one of Her Majesty's frigates.

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:tu:

We should also charge a fee of £49.00 for every Spanish lorry entering the UK, cash only to be paid on entry after the 1 days inspection requirement for there passports.

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War of the jobsworths, imagine them plotting who can be a bigger jobsworth :LOL:

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I know exactly who is going to be the bigger jobsworth ,last week while my truck was being unloaded i had to hand my keys into the goods in office and stand in a yellow square painted on the floor of the yard to make sure i wasn't hit by an FLT :rolleyes: ,you are not allowed to leave the box untill the truck is unloaded and your keys have been returned to you along with the delivery note .Now expand this idea to a bigger painted box for lots of drivers and a mix up with the keys :D

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Excellent :tu:

If the EU stand with Spain on this which is what i expect to happen, then i expect Cameron to give them a warning that they support us or get lost.

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When did the government heads of Spain and Argentina last meet?

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But that's playing into the hands on the idiots running the EU, They want us to retaliate so they have an excuse to crap on us AGAIN and support the Spanish.

Watch how soon the EU take sides if we up the anti.

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;)



http://www.newsbiscuit.com/2013/08/0...ern-gibraltar/

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...els-warns.html

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Bloody EU. Siding with continental Europe and crapping on the UK at every possible opportunity. It makes my blood boil :mad:

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Calm down dear, it's only another EU promise... :D

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I expect the EU people having had there chat with there Spanish counter parts in some sunny location to come down on us for some reason. ;)

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And their cunning opening gambit is to take our side. Sneaky..

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A genius reverse double bluff by unelected bureaucrats with their gold plated pensions and gold plated wives.

I would have thought there would be cheering at restricting immigration in to the Eurozone

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Royal Navy sends a gunboat:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23624715

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Seems a bit much. Neither side are unlikely to attack. :confused:

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HMS Westminster was scheduled to be going that way in any case, so from that perspective they're not escalating things, just doing business as usual. On the other hand, they're not going out of their way to observe Spanish sensitivities. Mind you, why should they ...

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Yeah, but it shows Dave is well 'ard...

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... and if he does nothing he's well soft. Damned whatever by some folk I suspect. ;)

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I couldn't possibly comment ;)

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Not quite sure how this is 'taking our side'?

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Because the bit you cut out told them to cut it out and told them to talk about what's going on. Here you go:

You cut a single part and ignored the rest.

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... and what terrible sanction will the EU impose upon Spain if they decide to carry on breaking the law I wonder? :rolleyes:

It'll be interesting to see how this thing pans out, especially if (God forbid) someone dies as a result of this illegal action by the Spanish.

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I didn't ignore it. The discussing of "fishing rights and sovereignty" is siding with Spain, as there is nothing to discuss.

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Thats my concern, i feel the EU will do nothing other than say something needs to be done but will not make them do it.

I will say i am wrong on this situation if the EU MAKE Spain drop this stupid argument and punish them for what they have done so far. however what i feel will happen is that if they try to bring in the charges there own people will kick off and make them change. The EU will not be the reason why this gets resolved and will not hit Spain as hard as the EU tend to and have hit us in the past. :rolleyes:

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Someone remind me did the French ever pay the EU fines for burning our beef and lamb?

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Not that i am aware of.

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Nor me, however if they didn't pay the fines what did the EU do about that I wonder? Sweet FA anyone? :D

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Indeed and you wonder why they have the reputation they have. :LOL:

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I thought they.were threatened with fines if they didn't lift the ban, which they did back down on iirc

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It's making me wonder if it's based on stuff like this

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Beats me... :shrug: :D

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-campaign.html

Do your bit. Vote British. Don't let the Spaniards win the social media hijacking :(

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What I love is they hastle the border, we raise by sending a warship :D

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My thoughts are with the unfortunate people of Gibraltar just now.

Stuck between a rock and a hard-up place.

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Maybe the UK and Spain could resolve their dispute over Gibraltar with a good old game of Paper, Scissors.?

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Oh what a surprise...

http://bbc.in/1bzwTJV

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... in which case we should match them, man for man, with checks for Spanish nationals arriving at any of our sea or airports.

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More votes for UKIP then, but maybe that's exactly what the EU wants. Votes for UKIP will, I would have thought, tend to come from Tory voters and the main beneficiaries will therefore be Miliband's Morons who certainly aren't going to be rattling the EU's cage.

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There at it again

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25008237

Should have fire a warning shot across their bow.

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Tell you what all cancel holidays to spain and go to Italy or Portugal, screw them

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RFA Fort Vic in Gib this weekend flying the Lynx all weekend over the harbour. There`s been no incursions this weekend, wonder why :)

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I should think that the Spanish should give us Gibraltar for helping them (big time) get rid of the French in the Napoleonic wars.

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It's not Spain's to give, it's ours and until the people that live there decide otherwise that's the way it should.stay imo