Organ donation - your thoughts and views
 

I was watching Holby tonight in which there was a girl who died and they used her heart to save the life of another girl. Trouble was, the mother of the donator changed her mind and the surgeon lied to carry on with the transplant as she was emotionally involved in the case. Anyway, not the real point.

My point is this: Are you on the donor register, and if so would you want your family to respect your wishes or be selfish and refuse. And if on the list, what have you decided to donate?

Myself personally, I am donating everything that I can, obviously if they are viable. Although I wouldn't want to donate my corneas.

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I am on the list but shall remove myself from it the moment it becomes opt out rather than opt in like in Wales.

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I will be opting out in wales on the principle it should be my choice and i believe my family should have the right to veto based on what they think is best for the family at the time too. I have no problem with being a donor but at that stressful time it is the family who matter most to me.

As it stand my kids would be in favor but i still think it should be by choice not default.

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Exactly Roger, it's the greatest thing you can do for your fellow man and to have that right/ privilege removed in favour of simply taking them is wrong imo, if enough people aren't on the list they should stick a few more adverts on the tv or run a facebook campaign.

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They can have any bit they want. Not sure if I'd recommend the liver though.

Brain is fine. It's never been used :D

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Couldn't have put it better myself :D

After I've gone, my bits are of no use to me. Anyone who can benefit from something is welcome to it.

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Anyone can have anything from me they want.

I'm quite happy for it to be an opt out system instead of the current opt in. It removes the relatives having to make a decision.

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As someone who might one day need a transplant l think its a wonderful gift when people donate their organs and l agree with the last poster in that opt out system removes the relative from making a very difficult emotional decision when they are already having to come to terms with the loss of a loved one.

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Yeah always seems a massive waste when some people need them to live, there isn't enough for them all, and every day they're left to rot or burn upon someone's death.

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I am a donor. In fact when I die I want anything that can be used to save other lives to be used and the rest can go to research, teaching whatever as long as my family doesn't need to pay.

The donor part is easy but the other isn't. Apparently I need to arrange in advance with the unit I want to use my body. I don't want to do that as it means too much work if I move or die elsewhere. I just want it to go to the nearest "unit" wherever I am when I die, simple. If no-one wants it use it in dog food, anything. (Mmm, Soylent Green)

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MY wife wants her body donated to science. We have already made first enquiries.

I shall resist all attempts at the Welsh Assembly to get automatic right to my body.

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Yeah just chop me up and take what you need :D I certainly wouldn't miss them.

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I would like to be paid in advance the sum of £5000 and then be contractually obliged to donate at death. At least then I get a reward for it that I actually can enjoy

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Just sell a kidney.

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no because that has an impact on my quality of life a reduces my lifespan would rather get paid in advance

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I'm in the market for a new kidney :)

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How heartwarming ;)

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I am on the list, and have informed my family (and gained their agreement) that anything that can help someone, can be taken/transplanted.

If I can help someone after I've gone, why not?

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Same here - I'll have no use for the damn organs if I'm dead. I doubt anyone would get much use out of my eyes, though - the left retina's been repaired, and I have glaucoma - a rare form, I'm told (pigment dispersion syndrome). Of course it is. It's also a form that's supposed to quit in your forties...I've had it throughout my forties, I was too young to get it in theory, and it's showing no signs of quitting. Oh well. :(

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lol I know :)

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I feel that I'm torn on the subject, on one hand my late father had 2 transplants, and I will need one soon enough but the thought of being chopped up (extreme view I know) to donate seems a bit horrid to me.

But on the other hand if I'm willing to accept someone else's organs then I would have to ignore those feelings and to accepting that would be wrong not to donate anything I can. When the time comes I don't think I could refuse. Saying that I also understand that I could be limited in what I can and can't donate due to hereditary disorders.

Also to see the amount of people here that that is all for it, is very comforting and hopefully opinions are changing on the subject. I do wish that next of kin only have a limited say in the matter when consent has already been given. Though I fully understand their situation.

I have no opinion on the opt in or out situation, I can see both sides of it and I can't say if it's a good thing or not.

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A law that takes ownership of your body whether it is just for parts or not is just plain wrong. Soylent Green ?everyone from the second you leave home to go to nursery for the first time society has its hands on you a minimum of 12 years is school then work 40 hours a week most of your life and save on the off chance you aint to screwed up in your 60s to enjoy the rest of what is your life now society is trying to say your body is no longer yours although they have already done that by saying you can not smoke weed etc

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Bit of a difference between helping others to have a better life after you're dead and becoming foodstuffs, IMHO.

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next step though Hugh you can not deny population is exploding and food shortages will happen. Tie it in with global warming temperature increases around the equator increasing the amount of arid land

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Aren't you arguing for the state to be less harsh on the housing allowance in the other thread? That's asking society to help people and this is society asking us to help too....

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That whole statement I made was in respect to them making you opt out in Wales.They are by default taking ownership of your body and that is not right

And I want to the state to realise what it is doing to people and stop using the poor as an excuse

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The Holby story was out of order over something like this, putting the subject donations in a bad light just for a storyline is just plain wrong.

But I do also have the same concerns as you though.

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Excellent idea, being paid to help society. Maybe it can be paid weekly or monthly and called something snappy like 'benefits' :rolleyes:

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LOL I think what Derek is trying to say is, that you already do get paid for your body parts when you die. by way of 'not having to work benefits' :)

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Or paid in kind via your use of the NHS, roads etc.

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I think if you've been on benefits for so long, say 2 years. then you have to be on the donor list as a way of paying back the money.

if you get a job that lasts for say 2 years then you can ask to be considered to be taken off the compulsory list.

but if you had more then 2 kids whilst on benefits then you have no right of appeal.

I remember when we all got along, till they turned us against each other :)

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I don't think anyone is seriously suggesting that people on benefits should get their organs harvested. Just pointing out the contrast of arguing against benefit cuts whilst presuming you should be paid for organ donation. On the one side you're arguing for sharing the wealth, taxpayers paying for people in need, and yet on the other you're saying that you expect to be rewarded if you give anything to the state.

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to be fair, Gary, you very rarely got along with anyone.....:D

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hahahaha I crack a joke and look what happens the Jock takes it funny

here is another one. Why do Jocks have long thin penises ? cuz they are tight fisted...... hehehehehehe

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It's not my fault that everybody's idiots :)

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And if you don't help society will help themselves to your organs anyway, it makes a mockery of it being a gift if it's just taken regardless unless you've opted out, a decent society encourages you to do the right thing with adverts, campaigns and maybe incentives one that's already eroding their peoples rights just take them, more and more I don't like the direction this country is going in.

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Well that would actually be a benefit, perhaps then we'll think of a better name that doesn't give some the sense of entitlement that benefits does for some now.

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When my late wife died we donated everything which was still viable without a second thought. When I die I'm happy if anything worth taking is removed from my body - it may not be much but it's the thought that counts... :)

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let's hope you have the same noble considerations
when it comes to pass that you need a kidney transplant
or similar yourself




am sure you will be ranting and raving at NHS staff when unavailability
is the situation


boyo you are a twyp git

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But don't you think that it should be opt in and not opt out?

do we extend it to when you go to the hospital or the doctor you have to have a pint of blood taken?

it's like recycling was fun. now recycling is compulsory.

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Ah you can't beat some casual racism. :dozey:

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No, because that is completely different - you would still be using the blood, and in the case of your death, you would not have any need for any of your organs.

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I forgive you maybe you can't read that well or just didn't read my other posts

This should be a gift and not a presumed consent and the family need final say.

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I'm on the donor list, aside from my eyes. Not that they would want them anyway.

I made sure Natalie knows too.

As someone who hopefully will be on the transplant list within a couple of years I feel it's a good thing to do.

But I was on the list before I was ill.

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So you think nobody should have a problem if it was compulsory for you to give a pint of blood when you visit an hospital or GP?

So you think nobody should have a problem with them removing all your organs, simply because you're dead and you won't be needing them anymore anyway?

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My two penny's worth is that if I decide to donate my organs (which I have) then my family should respect that and abide by it otherwise there is no point in having an opt-in scheme which is what I would prefer.

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The I decided so the family should respect that I undestand to a point but whether right or wrong as most deaths that can lead to donation are from sudden death (accidents etc) when there are children and family upset then if they feel its to much for them to cope with then they should have the final say. Then its up to educating them that its ok and that all the safegaurds are the and transparently so. As it not long ago Trusts were selling organs to other countries to be implanted in thier nationals here .

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-000-each.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4719374.stm

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-st...s-2176110.html

As I said my opt out is because I am happy to consider donating and my family know it but I think it should be a choice to opt in not opt out and it has to be well informed

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:erm:Personally, i don't see a problem with organ donation, providing the donors organ is 100% healthy, i am not too sure about the procedure of organ donation, but i am sure surgeons wouldn't place a diseased organ into a body, i think it is up to an individual, my view is that i don't see a problem with it, but at the same time, i wouldn't want to donate my organs, and if my children were to pass before me, i wouldn't want them to donate their organs either, its all down to the way people see things, some are for organ donations, and some are not

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What sort of logic is that?


Picture the scenario - unpleasant as it is


You laying there dead for some reason - how are you going to "consider"
it then?

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by if i feel that everything is in place still carrying an organ donor card and my family knowing my last wishes . As i said my choice no need for govermemnt to know anything about my choice untill i die.

the opt out system is not what i want

even on the other side i wouldnt feel happy reciving a donor organ unless i was sure the person and thier family wanted to do that too.

The opt out system doesnt give you that reasurance only that they didnt want to make fuss and doesnt automaticaly give the family a say either

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An update on the Holby storyline and the probable impact.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-23575817

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Oh dear, I was afraid that might happen. On a plus note however, it has provoked a debate about organ donation which is still going strong a week later.

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Dear god, dimwits that can't tell the difference between soap operas and real life shouldn't be allowed a tv. Mind you that would lower TV license income by 75%...

I quite like the idea that if you are on the donor register (which we all should be), you should have priority over those that aren't, in the event you need a transplant.