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HD childrens channels what a waste of bandwidth

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Why? Are children not good enough for HD or something?

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It'll be great to watch the Old Grey Whistle Test at 4:3 upscaled to HD ;)

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The kids looked at the tv and said wow Daddy that silly fluffy alien looks great has the definition increased Daddy? has never happened

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Totally agree! Like children are going to appreciate HD quality :rolleyes:

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I would suggest that children know an awful lot about these improvements in technology....

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Geeez the anti-childrens mob have landed. Theres loads of sports channels showing football in HD and I think football is a load of crap. The media is here to cater for everyone. I pay my dues to the BBC and I want the childrens channels in HD, god knows they are always on our TV and if they are I don't want them in blurr vision.

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yeah right toddles really give a crap about that don't they? Older kids will be bothered about HD gaming but they spend most their time while watching TV with their minds on the next social media post or their boy/girlfriends than the quality of the tv broadcast.

Trust me only geeks and nerds truly care Joe Bloggs thinks oh that's nice wifey where's my dinner

On top of that I am one of the biggest geeks you are likely to meet and I aint that bothered my tv however is top range and upscales so well anyway ;)....

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I'm with you Cupcakes is only fair they launch all five of the remaining channels in HD.

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not anti children's mob at all talk about over reaction. I just think with the experience I have as a parent of a daughter who is now almost an adult who has been exposed to a hell of a lot of tech but still is not bothered about if a channel is HD or not

I would rather they spent the money on better content myself

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As was pointed out on another thread the cost of this is minimal and may even save money...

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ok I would rather see better content full stop .......

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Think you need a time machine back thirty years or more for that....

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What content would you prefer the money to be spent on? The same could be said for the majority of adults they couldn't care less about HD.

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The article headline is a bit bad,

If you read they are only launching 3 HD Channels

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It's not as though the BBC have any other worthwhile channels to broadcast in HD (ignoring regional), they're adding BBC News, BBC Three, BBC Four, CBeebies and CBBC which only leave 2 others. Would people rather they broadcast BBC parliament and BBC Alba in HD instead?

HD will eventually become the standard and IMO every step taken towards getting rid of crappy SD broadcasts the better.

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And you know this to be fact?

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No, it's just my time of the month :D. SD is banned in our house especially with my new high end TV.

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exactly so why waste it on Cbeebies for gods sake. Of course you do realise that quality has been sacrificed for quantity do you not? 100s of channels of repeats over and over again only a handful of quality channels loads just wasting bandwidth. In 10 years people will be wanting 4k resolution and can't have it cuz the bandwidths saturated with crap

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Still maintain chap on other thread is right and this is not a question of wasting money....

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When QVC launches in HD, then you can complain !

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Its been scheduled to for about 2 years.

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This really is a pointless argument, isn't it? Let's stop moaning about things that get better and concentrate on what could be improved. As I have said before, HD may not make a lot of difference to you, depending on the technology you are using. On a lot of big screens, the picture becomes a bit ropey and pixellated in SD. HD resolves this nicely. Obviously, you don't have to watch it, so why complain?

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I own a high end panny 55 inch matey ;)

not an argument anyway just an opinion

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It's a shame the BBC cannot launch a Sports channel - that way, at least they wont keep switching channels around when Wimbledon over runs !

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Im looking forward to that

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I spose they could steal BBC3 HD in the day and Cbeebies HD at night

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You do realise they are the same feed? It basically just switches name & number come 7pm.

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Nice that you can afford that high end technology, tizmeinnit! However, some have TVs that are not high end, and where these are large screens, the picture quality is nicely enhanced by HD.

I don't see why the kids have to put up with inferior picture quality.

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They should count themselves lucky they don't have to put up with a portable black and white tv watching it via a VHS, lol.

I also agree that for the age group of CEBBIEs or whatever it is, I can't see them noticing picture quality.

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You don't credit them with much intelligence, do you? I can assure you that they are attracted to nice, clear, colourful pictures.

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I can't I am insolvent as good as bankrupt but at least I have a nice tv lol

cuz they do not care

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they should be attracted to the outside

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Two of the BBC's new channels - BBC Three HD and CBBC HD - will utilise existing unused capacity, and CBeebies HD and BBC Four HD will share a channel since they will not be broadcast at the same time.

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Sort out the problems with regional programming, so we dont have to change to SD channel first.

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They're planning to do that.

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Would be great if VM got regional HD channels and BBC Two Scotland when that comes around...

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Yeah, totally. Bring back 405 line VHF, life was so much simpler. :rolleyes:

The UK has settled on a broadcast standard of 1080 high definition. It will be simpler and therefore cheaper for broadcasters to originate and broadcast all their content this way without having to worry about final output definition. Almost everything the BBC makes is shot in HD now anyway. Some of the kids stuff was on the BBC-HD showreel because it, too, had been made in HD.

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There are no problems - regionalisation of HD was always going to be phased in. They did the Nations a little while ago, the English Regions will follow shortly.

Today's announcement is a victory for those who have lobbied hard for Ofcom to reserve some of the UHF spectrum reclaimed from analogue TV so it could continue to be used for digital TV. Ofcom's position for many years has been that its remit was to monetize the spectrum by flogging it all off and if broadcasters wanted it, they would have to bid for it on the open market against the telecoms firms that want it for 4g and other uses. This position was patently absurd - our broadcast industry has developed a business model over many decades which was based on the assumption that the broadcast spectrum would simply be available; they were never going to be able to bid for and win it on the open market.

Ofcom has announced that it is reserving enough UHF spectrum for 10 HD channels. The BBC is now able to announce the launch of HD versions of almost all its output because its platform-neutral policy had prevented it from doing so previously. It could have launched all these HD channels on cable and satellite some time ago but it was lack of room on Freeview that held them back.

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those are not new channels there just existing channels upgraded.

I thought we was getting new channels

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This has nothing to do with MB's forthcoming from VM announcement. These BBC HD channels are for launch early next year....

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What surprises me the most is that almost everyone here is screaming for HD channels, and so the BBC obliges. Next thing is some are complaining about some of them being childrens channels.

Strange though I did not hear the same complaints when other children's channels went HD !

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I must agree Mutley that if BBC were not launching their other channels in HD there would be a whacking great complaint thread on here!!

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yeah but I am allowed as you aint ever seen me scream for more HD channels

I did not complain then as I know nothing about it so I will now. What a waste HD kids channels kids should be playing outside

I am sorry that the fact I would rather have something else appears to have been seen as a abhorrent view I can understand with my politics but with this oh what a laugh

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I would happily see CBBC and Cbeebies merged into a single channel. CBBC content is aimed at kids who should be at school for half the time the channel is live. That's a clear waste of money.

But extending HD across the BBC's output is primarily about streamlining and reducing cost. The next step will be to switch channel numbers so the HDs are the defaults. Then when HD uptake is high enough the SD channels can disappear.

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If CBBC HD/Cbeebies HD weren't launching nothing else would, they don't affect you whatsoever so where the hell is the problem.

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Just expressing my view on a discussion board mate dunno what your beef is but its mouldy

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Also I think BBC Three and BBC Four need to merge into one channel so the BBC can reuse two of their EPG Slots on Sky for the new HD Channels.

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imo these channels need to be expanded this is where the quality tv is (bbc's anyway)

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I do find this a very odd thread. Agreed there is a debate on children's tv and how much they should watch, but the launch of the remaining BBC HD channels makes sense, costs very little if anything overall apparently, and will be available on all platforms.

Whilst not the most exciting news ever it is not something I can find to be worth complaining about.

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and I do not think someone complaining about HD kids channels is worth the flacks its got

everyone is entitled to a view are they not :)

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Never disagreed with you more MB. Two totally different remits and both worthy of survival separately.

That is like saying The Times and The Daily Mirror should merge!

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It's not flack it's bemusement. They harm nobody unless we get into child psychology issues.

Do not see why News 3 and 4 should go HD and not the children's channels.

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I do not really give a toss to be honest . I saw the thread its a quiet day I posted my view then got a discussion on it so I have been entertained which is what its all about innit ;) :)

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Please no!

Never even look at BBC 3 as it's content is of no interest to me. BBC4 has some great music documentaries on amongst other things.

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You beat me to it!

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Ditto for me but the other way around, never find anything interesting on BBC4 but watch BBC3 all the time

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I think it's a good idea. My days of children’s TV are over (for now), but in the days it used to be on here I would have loved to have had to endure it in HD. There must be a call for it or the 'commercial' children’s TV providers wouldn't have embraced the technology, because commercial companies (especially American ones) just throw money down the drain don't they?

Cheers

Grim

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Missus and I watched BBC3 almost constantly when it first launched. The other day I suddenly realised that we no longer watch anything on it any more and most of the schedule either makes me cringe or else roll my eyes at the yoof of today. But seeing as missus and I are about 10 years older than when Three launched and are both beyond its target age demographic, I guess this is just a sign that they have got their audience pretty well pegged out.

I would watch loads of stuff on Four but most of it would bore missus to tears. We tend to have One on mostly, if at all. Actually we watch a lot less telly than we used to. It's on a lot during the late afternoon and early evening for the kids (until we chase them outside or upstairs), so for aesthetic reasons I'm glad we will be able to have CBBC and Cbeebies in HD as SD doesn't look great on our TV.

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It makes no cost difference for the childrens channels to launch in HD if BBC Three/Four are.

The Playout and Transponder space is exactly the same, if you sit in continuity at BBC Three, you will sit and watch CBBC until the channel goes live at 7 because of this. There is approximatly a 1 1/2 minute switchover between the channels, from Kids going off to BBC Three/Four coming on. So why shouldn't kids have HD?

Nick, Disney, Cartoon Network etc seem to be in HD so why not the BBC ones?

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Don't see what the fuss is about, we are getting 5 more HD channels free ones at that.(Even though they are funded by the TV licence):confused:

Start complaining when all you get is shopping channels in HD or the slappers on a sofa channels.:mad:

Rant done.

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Slappers on a sofa channel - not heard that one before :)

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What about my recording space?

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If you actually read the article its only 3 as Kids and Beeb 3/4 will share slots,

Id guess that for VM and maybe Sky they will split the channels up like they do on standard def, its just freeview they will space save by only using one channel?

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Can anybody tell me what slappers are?.

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Northern women.

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Ladies of somewhat dubious moral fortitude.

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The best thing since sliced bread :)

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SD versions will still be available. Not everyone has an HD-capable box.

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You see l am isolated down here in the land of the Southern softies.:)

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Something that you put on your feet around the house in Northern Ireland.

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At least my view on not wanting kids HD channels was on topic

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They are on channels after 10pm on Freeview and Sky asking you to phone in and talk to them - why can they go to an pub I do not know.

You can see them live on the channels but with no sound - you can see the same thing every weekday in the Sun newspaper.

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But each of these channels are aimed at completely different audiences, so I don't agree with that.

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You are indeed a very naughty man.:naughty:

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:shocked:

This is the thread on the new BBC HD Channels can we stop talking about 'late night' channels.

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So you put your kids out in the rain and the snow all day do you? You know very well that all kids (well maybe apart from yours) spend some of their time indoors and it is perfectly legitimate for some of this time to be watching a bit of TV.

I do find your apparent attitude towards children to be very controlling and completely without compassion or empathy. No-one of my generation as children had colour or multi channel TV, HD and the rest of it, but I wouldn't deny that to my kids just because I didn't have it.

But maybe you're a very nice person really and just trying to be controversial....

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Albeit rather inappropriate....

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Come on, that wasn't what he meant and you know it.


Maybe you are just reading too much into a simple opinion on HD TV?

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well my daughter has grown up into a well balanced respectful young lady with morals and a good attitude. That can not be said for a good number of teenagers. So stick your lecture on child rearing somewhere only your proctologist will find it

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