Tagging firms in overcharging investigation
 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23272708

If this turns out to be true I hope they are severely punished and banned from any further govt. contracts.

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I also hope they're banned from Government contracts if found guilty. This is the same firm that almost ballsed up the Olympics had we not had the more professional and dependable Army on hand. Personally I would rather we didn't have these private firms handling Police work anyway.

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Well that's what you get when you get private firms being given contracts to run things as quite simply every time they will put profits and their shareholders before anything else and anybody who thinks otherwise is obviously deluded.

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G4S and Serco overcharging for shoddy work? In other news the Pope has announced he is catholic and scientists have discovered bears sometimes defecate in the woods.

Tip of the iceberg, the rate that private firms have rushed in to cherry pick parts of the criminal justice system is staggering and the work they do is haphazard at best.

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Ah. Capitalism at its finest...

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Of course if they followed the money I'm sure they wouldnt find any links between who awarded the contracts and who profits from them. :rolleyes:

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Haven't they been at this kinda nonsense since they were Group 4?

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Well Private Eye has been doing an excellent job of finding the links and joining up the dots over this issue..;);)

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Almost is going a bit easy on them. They left several stadiums unmanned till the last minute. This happened in most of the country, my dealings with G4s as a whole were terrible and I'm sure I've exposed some of less publicized cock up's they had at the games somewhere :D

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It looks like a problem with their procedures when there is a change of circumstances. Is it delays in passing the info that a tag has been removed to other departments. The Ministry of Justice aren't exactly hot on passing on info quickly.

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http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25001800

Just as well they've just won a juicy contract to supply security for next years Commonwealth games to pay for this.

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Both companies have said that they have charged in line with their genuine interpretation of the contracts :rolleyes: .

So are we expected to believe that billing for tagging dead people or people not even on a tagging order is a legitimate interpretation of the contracts

and how do you interpret a contract beyond it's designed purpose

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What about the dead ones or those not even placed on a tagging order by the courts ,how can that be a procedural error ?

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Depends on two things: How good the contractor's (in this case G4S) Lawyers are and how good the contractee's (in this case the home office) Lawyers are.

The problem (in my experience) is that the contracts used by the government in general favour the contractor and not the government. I'll be honest, I've never seen one but I've dealt with several government contracts (working in my local hospital) and in general it has seemed as though each contract defined our responsibilities to the contractor quite tightly (tightly to the point where it was almost impossible to deviate from the contract), while allowing the contractors to do pretty much what they want.

That was nearly 20 years ago now, but nothing I have seen since convinces me that anything has changed.

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I think we know the answer to that... :mad:

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Funnily enough security company of the year sodexo was recently done for over charging on government contracts, they're all at it.

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Weren't G4S on a programme a few years ago where, they were ignoring the Tag Alarms saying "the equipment was faulty"?

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http://news.sky.com/story/1184705/cr...-5m-overcharge

Does this mean that government oversight of these outsourced service contracts has or will be improved in the future

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It probably means those responsible for that have been promoted... Grrr!!!....

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As Derek so elooquently put it nothing new here been going on for a while and quite a few people were aware of it and did sweet FA. Whilst i may not always accept what the police say i do accept 99% of the time they act in the public interest. I will never trust private companys to act in the public interest rather then their shareholders interests. Capatilism is great but like all systems it has it's limits and this headlong rush to privatise more and more aspects of many areas always on the promise of savings always seems to end up costing us more and involves dodgy dealings. How stupid are we that were not learning and still allowing the same old tired rubbish to be trotted out anytime some politician usually with a vested interest implements things like this.