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spreadsheet 24-06-2013 21:11

Manchester Museum time-lapse 'shows Egyptian statue move'
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23029507

Manchester Museum time-lapse 'shows Egyptian statue move'

Chris 24-06-2013 21:14

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MUMMY!

Gary L 24-06-2013 21:21

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Blu-Tack

Wicked_and_Crazy 24-06-2013 21:22

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oh for goodness sake, granite on glass. Of course its nothing to do with vibrations.....:erm:

Qtx 24-06-2013 21:30

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Is she a crazy woman or getting free publicity to draw visitors in to the museum?

It's obviously vibrations but I get the impression she is serious in thinking its something else. Probably believes in ghosts and psychics too!

spreadsheet 25-06-2013 06:54

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there have been speculations that it's all to do with the curse invoked by Lord Carnarvon's incursion on
the Tutankhamen Tomb

thenry 25-06-2013 14:15

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35588147)
Blu-Tack

:rofl:

Russ 25-06-2013 14:19

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I love how Prof Brian Cox is doing his nut over this. While there's probably a simple explanation about it his facade of being 'cool and trendy' starts to slide whenever he hears someone suggest that it might be some sort of Egyptian 'curse' :D

spreadsheet 26-06-2013 13:23

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35588321)
I love how Prof Brian Cox is doing his nut over this. While there's probably a simple explanation about it his facade of being 'cool and trendy' starts to slide whenever he hears someone suggest that it might be some sort of Egyptian 'curse' :D

it's probably someone using a jackhammer outside

Russ 26-06-2013 14:34

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Wouldn't that effect the other items in the cabinet? Note sure if that would make it go around in a perfect circle as it does.

Plus there chances are someone *may* hear it...

joglynne 26-06-2013 15:35

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Maybe the bluetac was applied to the other artifacts to stop them moving. Whatever is happening in the display case it has certainly resulted in an increase of visitors to the exhibition.

Just goes to show that doing a turn can attract an audience. Maybe his Mummy could hold a hat out for a collection? :)

Fawkes 28-06-2013 08:44

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Originally Posted by Qtx (Post 35588151)
Is she a crazy woman or getting free publicity to draw visitors in to the museum?

Nice bit of viral marketing if you ask me.

Qtx 20-11-2013 22:35

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Originally Posted by Qtx (Post 35588151)
Is she a crazy woman or getting free publicity to draw visitors in to the museum?

It's obviously vibrations but I get the impression she is serious in thinking its something else. Probably believes in ghosts and psychics too!

Egyptian relic curse solved by ITV's Mystery Map

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The mystery of why an ancient Egyptian relic in Manchester Museum appeared to spin around by itself has been solved by new ITV programme Mystery Map.

Mystery Map, which investigates myths and mysterious stories, enlisted the help of consultants 24 Acoustics who demonstrated that vibration from traffic and footfall on the road outside the museum was causing the statuette to move.

Vibration expert Steve Gosling undertook a 24-hour test by placing a specialist three-axis sensor under the wall-mounted cabinet containing the relic, to record any vibrations present.

Beginning the test at 6pm in the evening, Steve found there was a peak in vibration level which correlated with movement at this time. Overnight the vibrations stopped and the statue stopped rotating. Movement began again at 7am the following day - at the same time the vibrations also started again.
Did they really need to get acoustic experts in to tell them the bleeding obvious? :rolleyes:

Reminds me how bad some tv programs are these day and the way they attempt to make drama out of nothing,

Russ 20-11-2013 22:41

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Did it explain why these vibrations don't affect anything else there?

Pierre 20-11-2013 22:57

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Harmonics are very complex.

The size, density, positioning of other items, and other items around them, will all affect them differently.

I'm sure it just so happened that all the factors culminated in moving this particular object, in that particular way at those particular times.

I don't think it is up to anyone to prove why other things haven't moved in a similar way

Russ 20-11-2013 23:08

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Er yes it is when the explanation doesn't mention why none of the other many items in the building have been affected the same way.

Gary L 20-11-2013 23:13

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35647417)
Er yes it is when the explanation doesn't mention why none of the other many items in the building have been affected the same way.

Just pretend all the others way the same as elephants, and have rough bottoms.
it'll make it more understandable.

Qtx 20-11-2013 23:20

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35647409)
Did it explain why these vibrations don't affect anything else there?

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Steve also explained to Mystery Map presenter Julia Bradbury why three other statues in the same glass case at the museum were not affected by the vibrations.

He said: “This statue has a convex base. There’s a lump at the bottom which makes it more susceptible to vibrations than the others which have a flat base. This is conclusive.”
Simples, and another obvious point imo :)

spreadsheet 20-11-2013 23:27

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I used to have one of these

Gary L 20-11-2013 23:28

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I think some people were expecting a ghost story kind of explanation.

Russ 21-11-2013 05:34

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Originally Posted by Qtx (Post 35647421)
Simples, and another obvious point imo :)

OK so we know why 3 other items in the case didn't move but what about everything else in the building? No word on that?

Gary L 21-11-2013 11:23

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I don't know what you want to hear, Russ. but there's no voodoo, black magic, or anything supernatural as to why one thing moved and the others didn't.

it moved simply because it had a little bump on the bottom of the surface which was most probably in contact with the glass. and the vibrations caused it to rise slightly. just enough for it to move/rotate on the the little dimple.

the obvious answer as to why that one moved and not the others is because the others had a different contact surface. no little dimple. and weren't possessed.

Pierre 21-11-2013 11:57

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35647457)
OK so we know why 3 other items in the case didn't move but what about everything else in the building? No word on that?

Or why the building itself didn't move, or why the house at the bottom of our road isn't spinning either.

In fact we must prove why nothing else in the world hasn't been affected by the traffic in this location.

Russ 21-11-2013 12:03

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Confirmation bias :)

Chris 21-11-2013 12:07

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Is exactly what you're displaying, Russ, in reverse. You're "selecting" the lack of evidence regarding other artefacts in the museum to cast doubt on the logical conclusion to be drawn from the evidence that has been gathered - namely that the artefact moved due to an unusual combination of factors making it susceptible to vibration.

Russ 21-11-2013 12:11

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I dont think so. No way am I suggesting it's supernatural but to believe that nothing else in the building is bring affected by the vibrations? That's a stretch too far of the imagination but for some it's acceptable to not investigate it further. Their choice of course :)

Chris 21-11-2013 12:16

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Why investigate it further? The lack of movement of artefacts in cabinets does not need investigation. The artefacts are secure and are not doing anything strange or dangerous.

When I get the repair man out to my kitchen, I expect him to spend his time fixing my tumble dryer, not stand there scratching his head over why my washing machine is working normally. ;)

Russ 21-11-2013 12:22

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Why investigate it at all then?

If the building contained those 3 artifacts only and absolutely nothing else then yes that would be more conclusive. But as it's a museum I assume there are many items found in the place and I find it odd that nothing else has been moved by the vibrations.

Pierre 21-11-2013 12:43

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Other objects would have to resonate sympathetically to the frequency of the vibrations in question.

I would find it odd if there was another object of exactly the same size, shape, density, unsecured, resting on a convex base, in the exact same spot at the item in question.

If there was, and that didn't move, then you might have something.

Otherwise, you don't.

multiskilled 21-11-2013 12:51

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Maybe they are, but by an imperceptible amount between the time span of the objects being removed so the cabinets can be cleaned.

Gary L 21-11-2013 16:07

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Just pretend they are all boxes with assorted stuff in them. with differing weights and shapes.

sorted.


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