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Damien 24-06-2013 11:04

Can I replace BT Home Hub with my own router?
 
Title pretty much says it all.

As far as I am aware BT Infinity has a separate modem and then their BT Home Hub router. Can I ditch the Home Hub and connect the modem to my own router ? Is the Home Hub any good?

tizmeinnit 24-06-2013 11:04

Re: Can I replace BT Home Hub with my own router?
 
yes my Dad has

athol49 29-06-2013 18:14

Re: Can I replace BT Home Hub with my own router?
 
I had BT Infinity 2 installed 6 wks ago. Cable modem and HH3 installed beside master socket in bedroom (wife not happy about all flashing lights), but computer and MFC in spare bedroom. HH3 working OK, reasonable wifi in lounge but had to use homeplug (AV200) to connect PC to internet.
Cable modem to HH3 connection is Gigabyte (1000 Mb/s) ethernet and (according to engineer) slows considerably if normal (100 Mb/s) ethernet is used.
My system works ok with 56 Mb/s download and 18-20 Mb/s upload.

danielf 29-06-2013 18:19

Re: Can I replace BT Home Hub with my own router?
 
Has your line quality suddenly improved dramatically, or are BT putting in a new line?

athol49 29-06-2013 21:24

Re: Can I replace BT Home Hub with my own router?
 
BT installed new line in September 2012, when I switched from Virgin (after a dispute). Infinity was a minor switch in the cabinet, 100 yds down road.

olivander 15-07-2013 22:34

Re: Can I replace BT Home Hub with my own router?
 
Yes - it is very easy to replace, we replaced ours recently after a number of problems with the Home Hub. Wrote up the procedure using a Netgear WNDR4500 connected to the Openreach Modem.

http://www.reviewbunny.co.uk/review-...ce-bt-homehub/

It's very easy - takes 10-15 minutes at most.

adduxi 19-07-2013 15:07

Re: Can I replace BT Home Hub with my own router?
 
Yes, I've replaced my HH3 with my old ASUS RT-N16 running Tomato firmware.

Much better interface into the router, and gives me all the control I will ever need.

Sends all event logs, traffic stats, DHCP leases etc. to my NAS via Syslog and CIFS client.

None of this was possible with the HH3, and besides the HH3 only has 1 Gigabit LAN port, the old ASUS has 4.

__spc__ 16-11-2013 14:21

Re: Can I replace BT Home Hub with my own router?
 
Can I replace the HH3 with *any* router?

In the HH3 there is a 'requirement' to enter a broadband username (bthomehub@btbroadband.com) etc. How do I get around this using my old (and trusty) Linksys WRT54G running DD-WRT?

thenry 16-11-2013 16:50

Re: Can I replace BT Home Hub with my own router?
 
you'll be limited using that router on speeds, i'd go as far as saying you'll most probably lose speed. If you're adamant then PPPoE is way you need to go, it'll be under WAN Setup > connection type.

Dash: CF noob 16-11-2013 16:53

Re: Can I replace BT Home Hub with my own router?
 
WRt54G doesn't run DD does it?

thenry 16-11-2013 16:55

Re: Can I replace BT Home Hub with my own router?
 
yes they famously do.

__spc__ 16-11-2013 23:22

Re: Can I replace BT Home Hub with my own router?
 
@thenry

I removed my HH3 from my network and then connected everything to the WRT54G, including the BT Infinity modem to the WAN port of the WRT54G.

I then enabled DHCP on the WRT54G and checked that my home network was functioning correctly. (It was - my laptop could see the system web pages of the two routers plus my NAS storage, and ping across the home network worked fine.)

I next set the WRT54G to PPPoE and used the username 'bthomehub@btbroadband.com'. Without a password, clicking 'Connect' on the WRT54G's DD-WRT status page did nothing. Once I added a password (I used 'password') I got a connection - IP, domain, and two DNS server numbers.

However... No WWW pages would load, and on several attempts I went to (probably) the modem's auto-redirect 'BT HH3' page, where I got a troubleshooting page telling me I could not connect to the broadband.

So, in summary, I can use my Linksys WRT54G running DD-WRT v23 to get a connection to BT Broadband. But I cannot successfully 'connect' to the internet, and pinging various international IP numbers does not work.

Any ideas..? (I'm so close, I can feel it..!)

qasdfdsaq 17-11-2013 02:24

Re: Can I replace BT Home Hub with my own router?
 
The modem shouldn't have any auto-redirect page, or any pages of any kind. The modem is (out of the box) configured as a dumb pass-through device with no interface or IP. Can you provide a pic of your setup and of your dd-wrt config pages?

__spc__ 17-11-2013 08:29

Re: Can I replace BT Home Hub with my own router?
 
@qasdfdsaq

Well blow me! I reconnected everything with the WRT54G at the centre of it all, so I could take some screenshots, and everything is working great-guns!

Could even be working a little better than the HH3? (There is a 1 second pause on clicking on WWW page links, then bam! page loaded.)

EDIT: Last night I had left the HH3 connected as a WiFi AP, but this morning disconnected it from the LAN. Lo-and-behold, when I added the HH3 back onto the LAN, I get the same 'cannot connect to broadband' error. Looks like I can't use the HH3 for anything other than a doorstop....

So, in summary, I have use the WRT54G with DD-WRT firmware to replace the BT HomeHub3 on my home network.

'God bless WRT54Gs'!

Dash: CF noob 17-11-2013 13:39

Re: Can I replace BT Home Hub with my own router?
 
DOH.......... mine's a WRT54GC....

qasdfdsaq 17-11-2013 13:50

Re: Can I replace BT Home Hub with my own router?
 
The Homehub may be still trying to establish a PPPoE connection which could confuse things. I've never seen that though, always worked fine for me using it as just an additional wireless AP - though admittedly it was never very good at it anyway. Home Hub 5 is way better :P

__spc__ 18-11-2013 19:48

Re: Can I replace BT Home Hub with my own router?
 
Update - I noticed a 'familiar' slowing down of the router. This thread solved it: http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Router_Slowdown

However, now ntop doesn't seem to send any data to: http://localhost:3000/

Will keep tinkering...

__spc__ 19-11-2013 06:44

Re: Can I replace BT Home Hub with my own router?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by __spc__ (Post 35646597)
Update - I noticed a 'familiar' slowing down of the router. This thread solved it: http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Router_Slowdown

However, now ntop doesn't seem to send any data to: http://localhost:3000/

Will keep tinkering...

In solving the slow-down issue, I close the ports that ntop tracks - we are heavy users of P2P (Netflix etc. and we use XBox Live). I guess the WRT54G can;t handle BT Infinity broadband, with multiple P2P device connections...

What I have now done is replace the WRT54G with the BT HH3 as my internet gateway, but have included the WRT54G on my LAN, piping everything through the BT HH3, and so far it seems to be working nicely.

thenry 19-11-2013 14:58

Re: Can I replace BT Home Hub with my own router?
 
Why don't you buy a new router that can run open source firmware ?

__spc__ 19-11-2013 17:16

Re: Can I replace BT Home Hub with my own router?
 
That's the conclusion I've come to :-)

thenry 19-11-2013 18:49

Re: Can I replace BT Home Hub with my own router?
 
Which router are you going for?

qasdfdsaq 19-11-2013 20:43

Re: Can I replace BT Home Hub with my own router?
 
The WRT54G can only really handle 20-30Mbps on a good day, with no extra services running. Anything more is going to cause slowdowns.


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