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thenry 07-06-2013 17:16

Daniel Pelka Murder Case: Parents 'Deliberately Starved Son'
 
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An emaciated boy was the subject of a campaign of "incomprehensible" cruelty by his mother and stepfather before he died, a court has heard. Four-year-old Daniel Pelka's condition was likened by a doctor to that of a concentration camp victim.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-22760991
:mad:

RIP little 1

spreadsheet 07-06-2013 17:19

Re: Daniel Pelka Murder Case: Parents 'Deliberately Starved Son'
 
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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35580984)
:mad:

RIP little 1

there's some bad buggers around

thenry 03-07-2013 16:07

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The sibling of Daniel Pelka, who died after allegedly being starved to death, has told a court how the four-year-old had his head "bashed" in the bathroom.

http://news.sky.com/story/1111086/pe...ad-head-bashed
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MalteseFalcon 03-07-2013 20:24

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Death penalty for them, it makes me so angry and cross that you see stories like this where the people so obviously should never have been allowed to breed in the first place and then see couples who cannot have children but would be such good parents. The world is such a cruel place.

thenry 31-07-2013 16:35

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Daniel Pelka: pair convicted of starving and murdering helpless four-year-old

A mother and stepfather who systematically starved a helpless four-year-old boy before battering him to death have been found guilty of murder.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...-year-old.html
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Osem 31-07-2013 17:11

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Yes it does make you wonder why nothing was done earlier to protect this young lad. It's quite bizarre that abuse like this so often isn't recognised and dealt with promptly. I hope they throw the key away on these two but no doubt they'll be out and about in a few years.

This subject is especially close to home since Mrs Osem's half brother was routinely beaten and eventually died from brain injuries sustained in yet another assault by her mother and stepfather many years ago. Sadly they were never even arrested let alone prosecuted by the authorities in her country of origin. :mad:

Gary L 31-07-2013 17:15

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He'll just be another one that slipped through the net.

and those social workers who's job it was to protect him will be inadequately trained.

but as always, there will be lessons to be learned.

Mick Fisher 31-07-2013 18:19

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35602840)
He'll just be another one that slipped through the net.

and those social workers who's job it was to protect him will be inadequately trained.

but as always, there will be lessons to be learned.

Yep :(

Maggy 01-08-2013 09:55

Re: Daniel Pelka Murder Case: Parents 'Deliberately Starved Son'
 
Again and again and again and again...........................

I still remember little Maria Colwell.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Maria_Colwell

Despite ALL the legislation over the past 40 years nothing has really changed.:mad:

Nidge41 01-08-2013 14:35

Re: Daniel Pelka Murder Case: Parents 'Deliberately Starved Son'
 
Where was his real father in all of this?

Osem 01-08-2013 15:10

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Originally Posted by Nidge41 (Post 35603808)
Where was his real father in all of this?

From what I heard in an interview with him he is living back in Poland having split up from his ex. and been prevented from seeing his late son in the UK.

martyh 01-08-2013 15:35

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Every man and woman who cannot have children for whatever reason must be so mad about this ,a total waste of a beautiful boy (seeing the picture in the link) ,they must be thinking why couldn't the parents simply put the child up for adoption if they did not want him ,so many people could have given him the life and love he deserved

R.I.P

Pierre 01-08-2013 15:44

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I hope they get what they deserve inside.

A few good kickings for baby killers.

Gary L 01-08-2013 17:09

Re: Daniel Pelka Murder Case: Parents 'Deliberately Starved Son'
 
As predicted he's been classed as "slipped through the net" and his death is another "lesson to be learned" for the social services.

all this learning they're getting and they're still useless.

martyh 01-08-2013 17:46

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35604060)
The normal platitudes by those in charge.

How could they not see a child that was half the correct weight and covered in bruises as a problem?

It needs some sackings to get the attention. Ain't holding my breath.:rolleyes:

It'll be another side ways shuffle for all involved as with Stafford hospital ,maybe a sacking of some minor official ,possibly a cleaner .

Jimmy-J 02-08-2013 01:58

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Absolutely shocking! Makes me feel really sick and so angry! :mad: Poor kid.

martyh 02-08-2013 12:02

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Daniel Pelka's mother and her partner have been jailed for a minimum of 30 years each for murdering the four-year-old.
http://news.sky.com/story/1123703/da...ailed-for-life

007stuart 02-08-2013 12:05

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Both should sterilised to prevent them ever having children.

Deport them both now and return them to Poland.

iFrankie 02-08-2013 12:19

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In tears watching sky news, this is the first time ever that i have been so shocked and upset.

30 years is a good sentence.

RIP little one.

richard s 02-08-2013 13:13

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Send them back to Poland to do their time... save us some Tax money.

Osem 02-08-2013 15:18

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I dare say the conditions in Polish jails would be a good deal harsher too.

PISCES 03-08-2013 12:18

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:mad:
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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35602815)
This is just appalling especially after the school seems to have noticed problems:



I know it's easy to be wise after the event but alarm bells should have been ringing here.

I hope the other lags get to them.

:mad: i agree with you i hope they get what they deserve:banghead:

---------- Post added at 13:14 ---------- Previous post was at 13:07 ----------

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Originally Posted by iFrankie (Post 35604558)
In tears watching sky news, this is the first time ever that i have been so shocked and upset.

30 years is a good sentence.

RIP little one.

It is not the first time anything like this has happend in this land of hope and glory, baby P case made me feel sick, this is just as bad, it is not the first time the authorities have failed and i am sure it won't be the last, i wonder how David Cameron can explain the difference about his government with regards to the fact that he was appalled when Labour social services couldn't prevent the Baby P disaster?
All governments are as bad as each other, Camerons lot have failed to protect Children in this country:sick:

---------- Post added at 13:18 ---------- Previous post was at 13:14 ----------

The mother and step father showed no emotion when sentence was passed on them!

:disturbd:

Hom3r 03-08-2013 19:21

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The other bad side to this story is idiots will think all Polish treat kids like this.

Osem 03-08-2013 19:31

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Well, let's face it, idiots think all sorts of things and the UK doesn't have the monopoly on them.

thenry 17-09-2013 15:35

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Chance after chance was missed to intervene in the case of a four-year-old boy who was beaten to death by his mother and stepfather. A serious case review into the death of Daniel Pelka found repeated failures by agencies set up to safeguard children's welfare. But it concluded that nobody could have predicted his death at the hands of an abusive mother and stepfather last year.

http://news.sky.com/story/1142623/da...uspected-abuse
the kid was eating out of bins.

TheDaddy 17-09-2013 19:27

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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35622699)
the kid was eating out of bins.

Lessons will have been learnt though, the only lesson we want to know that has been learnt is that heads have rolled, anything else won't do.

Osem 17-09-2013 20:00

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I wonder if part of the problem here is the innate 'belief' that women couldn't do such things to their children. We're routinely given the impression that domestic abuse is very much a male v. female/child scenario despite the fact that there are very large numbers of men who suffer terrible abuse by their female partners and are appallingly treated by the authorities. Aspects of our family law system are heavily weighted towards women and this further reinforces the impression that women ought to be trusted ahead of their male partners. Perhaps if the authorities treated mothers and fathers in the same way and with the same degree of suspicion they wouldn't so often be taken in by evil, brutal women and our children would be safer as a result.

Pierre 17-09-2013 21:48

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35622792)
I wonder if part of the problem here is the innate 'belief' that women couldn't do such things to their children.

Yes a very big misconception. woman can and do such things to their own, and others children, on a regular basis.

Society wishes to think it is rare but it isn't.

Maggy 17-09-2013 22:37

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I'm sure his teacher reported what she knew and observed further up the chain..The fact is unless those in overall charge actually think it's worth reporting to the relevant authorities it is hard to know what actions are being taken.
It takes courage to call out your superiors if you think they are mistaken.We all think we would do the right thing but until you are in that position if your head doesn't appear to do anything you would have to be pretty determined to go over someone's head and risk being a whistleblower.Maybe if such people were treated better we would get more action taking place.

Thankfully I only ever had to report about one child in my entire career and even then I wasn't sure exactly what had happened as the child concerned left the school pretty soon afterwards.

Osem 18-09-2013 07:17

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35622830)
Yes a very big misconception. woman can and do such things to their own, and others children, on a regular basis.

Society wishes to think it is rare but it isn't.

It's perpetuated in part by women's pressure groups which like to give the impression that, for example, women don't make false claims of rape. By doing this they're able to pursue their agenda to increase penalties and conviction rates and the fact that their stance adds to the suspicion with which men are increasingly treated doesn't bother them a jot. It's just collateral damage.

It's about time the authorities really woke up to the fact there are some very manipulative, irresponsible and dangerous women out there who are very adept at pulling wool over eyes.

Maggy 18-09-2013 09:17

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35622868)
It's perpetuated in part by women's pressure groups which like to give the impression that, for example, women don't make false claims of rape. By doing this they're able to pursue their agenda to increase penalties and conviction rates and the fact that their stance adds to the suspicion with which men are increasingly treated doesn't bother them a jot. It's just collateral damage.

It's about time the authorities really woke up to the fact there are some very manipulative, irresponsible and dangerous women out there who are very adept at pulling wool over eyes.

As long as the word SOME is heavily underlined please.Because I'll testify that the majority of fathers are decent and loving parents..:tu:

Osem 18-09-2013 09:36

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Yes I think the word 'some' has to be taken as read in all such discussions. Thankfully it's a minority of women (and men) who indulge in such appalling behaviour and their sex should be totally irrelevant to how they're investigated and dealt with.

Derek 14-07-2015 16:29

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-33528988

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A mother who starved and murdered her four-year-old son has died in jail.
Magdalena Luczak and her partner Mariusz Krezolek were each jailed for a minimum of 30 years for murdering Daniel Pelka.

Osem 14-07-2015 16:34

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No sympathy here, sorry.

TheDaddy 14-07-2015 16:42

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Good, hope the bitch suffered

heero_yuy 14-07-2015 16:59

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If there is an afterlife I hope she's being entertained by Shinigami.

Hom3r 14-07-2015 20:18

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That's the tax payer spared.

I know its wrong not to be sad, but hell has its own section for child killers.

Sirius 15-07-2015 05:19

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35788402)
Good, hope the bitch suffered

Just the other one to go now. Hope he suffers to.

Kursk 15-07-2015 10:30

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Has there been any news on how she died?

heero_yuy 15-07-2015 10:50

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Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 35788509)
Has there been any news on how she died?

My redtop just says she was found dead in the cell and that there's an investigation into the cause.

MalteseFalcon 15-07-2015 12:23

Re: Daniel Pelka Murder Case: Parents 'Deliberately Starved Son'
 
I read she'd killed herself.

I'd like to think she killed herself because she felt remorse, but I think it is more likely she took the cowards way out of it. Still, at least one prisoner the taxpayer won't need to fund anymore.


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