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andrewstevenson 24-05-2013 13:48

Virgin in 3d
 
An I right that for virgin tv only 3d offering is 6 movies no music no sport no channels

Jameseh 24-05-2013 13:52

Re: Virgin in 3d
 
Yes.

cupcakes aka dd 24-05-2013 19:08

Re: Virgin in 3d
 
And no 3D on demand. Rubbish isn't it. Netflix has a 3D section and I'm pushing Lovefilm to do some too. LG's new SmartTV format has a 3D section too.

DaMac 24-05-2013 19:35

Re: Virgin in 3d
 
Panasonic tvs have. 3d channel as well full of demos and weird and wonderful stuff.

coulsontom 24-05-2013 20:57

Re: Virgin in 3d
 
Don't get 3D TV. Only 3D ever seen was at Disney World about 16 years ago.

cupcakes aka dd 24-05-2013 23:08

Re: Virgin in 3d
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by coulsontom (Post 35575449)
Don't get 3D TV. Only 3D ever seen was at Disney World about 16 years ago.

Then you'll find it's come a long way since then.

coulsontom 24-05-2013 23:32

Re: Virgin in 3d
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cupcakes aka dd (Post 35575484)
Then you'll find it's come a long way since then.

they don't have special effects in homes tho do they?

I really don't see the point. Sport in 3D I've not seen but I know they put the cameras lower down. The good thing about football on the tele is that you can see the whole pitch and positioning of players etc... A low down camera angle ruins it. (Anyone who's seen Spurs in Europe will testify)

jodash 24-05-2013 23:36

Re: Virgin in 3d
 
when I went over to Sky (only lasted 2 weeks!) watched footie and films in 3D was very good

paultrademark 24-05-2013 23:50

Re: Virgin in 3d
 
I like watching the odd 3D film or 3D content (though not on VM anymore as they removed it)

It's not something I would use all the time, but with the right film it certainly makes it more enjoyable to watch with the family :)

cupcakes aka dd 25-05-2013 00:59

Re: Virgin in 3d
 
It's a treat thing like a Sunday afternoon viewing with the kids or late night stuff like Prometheus. My next TV must have 3D capability.

DaMac 25-05-2013 08:43

Re: Virgin in 3d
 
Some people can't see the 3d effect, it usually means one of your eyes isn't as good as the other, also I read that women are less likely to get enthusiastic about HD because they can't see as many shades of colours as men, I suppose if you have slight colour blindness as well that doesn't help.

bbxxl 25-05-2013 13:41

Re: Virgin in 3d
 
3D T. is great. It's a pity Virgin don't do it.

harry_hitch 25-05-2013 15:40

Re: Virgin in 3d
 
Have never seen the point myself. I did not mind the odd old-school 3D film fun when I was younger (Jaws 3D etc) but that was only for the gore. That fad came and went, as I think this one will too.
I have not seen a great deal of modern 3D other than what Channel 4 broadcast last year and the odd sport game. It really did not appeal to me, although I have not watched a movie in "3D." Most of the time it is just a gimmick added on in post production.
Let's hope VM acquire some content for those who do want it though:-)

DaMac 25-05-2013 18:46

Re: Virgin in 3d
 
Well I watched titanic on 3d and the detail (not nessacerily the pop) belied a film that was shot 16 years ago, i have my 3d TV calibrated for 3d and it was amazing as was Jurassic park... Newer films that where shot for 3d like life of pi can make you go wow with the correct equipment set up correctly.

bbxxl 25-05-2013 18:53

Re: Virgin in 3d
 
Not sure what setup you need to do. My setup consisted of plugging the TV in and the 3D is fantastic.

andy_m 25-05-2013 18:55

Re: Virgin in 3d
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaMac (Post 35575721)
Well I watched titanic on 3d and the detail (not nessacerily the pop) belied a film that was shot 16 years ago.

But the downside is that there's no way to get your 3 hours back :(

Qtx 26-05-2013 12:26

Re: Virgin in 3d
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35575725)
But the downside is that there's no way to get your 3 hours back :(

:LOL:

The LG 3D tv's can make 2D tv into 3D and much of the it is as good as a kosha 3D film. Didn't expect it to be so good at all. So you may not actually need a 3D channel.

Most 3D films are depth based 3D rather than pop-out which is what someone usually expects.

I enjoy documentaries in 3D, like the Galapagos 3D recently on Sky but the dog prefers watching movies in 3D :D

DaMac 26-05-2013 13:19

Re: Virgin in 3d
 
We have done this with our avchd holiday recordings and the conversion can look stunning, the depth help brings alive detail you didn't realise was there, this sort of extra depth can be brought alive on most content by a device called a darbee which is about to be added to the next generation of lumagens. Ps tried watching the premier league on sky sports via 2d to 3d conversion and it isn't as good as the dedicated 3d feed, this is because sky uses different angles combined with pop shots to provide an altogether better experience than its normal HD broadcast.

Stephen 26-05-2013 14:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Qtx (Post 35575958)
:LOL:

The LG 3D tv's can make 2D tv into 3D and much of the it is as good as a kosha 3D film. Didn't expect it to be so good at all. So you may not actually need a 3D channel.

Most 3D films are depth based 3D rather than pop-out which is what someone usually expects.

I enjoy documentaries in 3D, like the Galapagos 3D recently on Sky but the dog prefers watching movies in 3D :D

The Samsung Active 3D TVs can also convert to 3D. Eastenders was something I tested it with and the Queen Vic had a lot of depth lol.

the_pidgeon 26-05-2013 16:12

Re: Virgin in 3d
 
3D is a pointless gimmick, specially on a TV.

dilli-theclaw 26-05-2013 16:14

Re: Virgin in 3d
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by the_pidgeon (Post 35576049)
3D is a pointless gimmick, specially on a TV.

Which is, of course, what used to be said about HD.

Stephen 26-05-2013 16:27

Re: Virgin in 3d
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by the_pidgeon (Post 35576049)
3D is a pointless gimmick, specially on a TV.

I dont see it as a gimmick. Its been around too long now. Also with every TV manufacturer has 3D on every model now, says to me they don't consider it a gimmick now.

DaMac 26-05-2013 17:37

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... And the quality is getting better, new Dolby technology may mean that we all will sit and watch TV with extra depth without the glasses, I know toshiba have already meddled with this but eventually it will be how we all watch it.

bbxxl 26-05-2013 17:37

Re: Virgin in 3d
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by the_pidgeon (Post 35576049)
3D is a pointless gimmick, specially on a TV.

If you think so, don't buy one. It is a gimmick, just like coloured and, indead pictures. What's wrong with wireless?

Stephen 27-05-2013 15:14

Re: Virgin in 3d
 
They said the same about moving pictures once lol.

bbxxl 27-05-2013 21:00

Re: Virgin in 3d
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35576290)
They said the same about moving pictures once lol.

Moving pictures? What black magic is this?

Tricky Trevor 03-06-2013 10:48

Re: Virgin in 3d
 
Well, it's a new month and VM still hasn't replaced the 3D On Demand content that they first took off in January.

denphone 03-06-2013 10:52

Re: Virgin in 3d
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tricky Trevor (Post 35578782)
Well, it's a new month and VM still hasn't replaced the 3D On Demand content that they first took off in January.

The problem with 3D is there ain't that content to show apart from Sky's own protected content.

Stuart 03-06-2013 11:42

Re: Virgin in 3d
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dilligaf1701 (Post 35576050)
Which is, of course, what used to be said about HD.

In fairness, 3D doesn't seem to be selling that well. HD is selling well, but, TBH, it's not fair to compare 3D and HD because anyone buying a TV pretty much such the first HD plasmas were launched has been effectively forced into buying an HD set as there are no competing technologies available. Even 3D sets do HD.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35576051)
I dont see it as a gimmick. Its been around too long now. Also with every TV manufacturer has 3D on every model now, says to me they don't consider it a gimmick now.

It may not be a gimmick, but equally it does not seem to be seen as necessary.

dilli-theclaw 03-06-2013 12:20

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.....yet

just the same as hd to Start with.

---------- Post added at 11:20 ---------- Previous post was at 11:14 ----------

Not that I find either necessary.

bamav 03-06-2013 15:06

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I don't think I recall many people claiming HD was a gimmick? There was an obvious benefit to those with large screens - SD and HD, no comparison on a screen 37in and up.

Now, 3D - causes health issues, many people can't see it properly, doesn't work very well on smaller screens or larger screens at a distance of more than a few metres... the list goes on.

The high numbers of 3D TV sales is completely artificial, as many TVs come with 3D as standard. There's simply not enough content or interest in 3D to justify the broad existence of 3D TVs.

Until they iron out the "teething" problems, then the majority of consumers won't embrace 3D and will keep it for the novelty movies in the cinema.

DaMac 03-06-2013 19:31

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I agree with some of what you say, but I watched Oz the great and powerful at the cinema in 3d and it is truly enchanting, so with my award winning TV and blu-Ray I have just watched it at home and it was every bit as enchanting, it is one of those films that do benefit from it... Now broadcast 3d is a different matter because it isn't capable of sending a full HD image to each eye (neither is passive 3d on a 1080p set) and so the overall quality and effect suffers, where it does happen to look good is football and nature, so c'mon VM get your finger out and provide some coverage.

Stephen 03-06-2013 21:21

Re: Virgin in 3d
 
Well when large TVs first appeared there was not the large range of Full 1080p and 720p HD. Many didn't even have HDMI. It took a while for HD to take off. Broadcast HD took a while to get going too.

3D doesn't really cause health issues as such, people usually already have a health issue.

Tricky Trevor 04-06-2013 05:46

Re: Virgin in 3d
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaMac (Post 35579051)
I agree with some of what you say, but I watched Oz the great and powerful at the cinema in 3d and it is truly enchanting, so with my award winning TV and blu-Ray I have just watched it at home and it was every bit as enchanting, it is one of those films that do benefit from it... Now broadcast 3d is a different matter because it isn't capable of sending a full HD image to each eye (neither is passive 3d on a 1080p set) and so the overall quality and effect suffers, where it does happen to look good is football and nature, so c'mon VM get your finger out and provide some coverage.

Oz the Great and Powerful is not out on Blu Ray in 3D until July 1st

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Great-Powerf...nd+powerful+3d

peanut 04-06-2013 08:56

Re: Virgin in 3d
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tricky Trevor (Post 35579259)
Oz the Great and Powerful is not out on Blu Ray in 3D until July 1st

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Great-Powerf...nd+powerful+3d

Officially... ;)

bbxxl 04-06-2013 23:02

Re: Virgin in 3d
 
Just ordered it.

I thought 3D was a gimmick and I'd never watch it as it needed glasses but when it came to the time when I needed to replace my TV - it was a top of the range Sony CRT and CRT is showing its age, I decided to go for another top of the range Sony.

It's mainly 3D Blu rays I watch but they are very, very good. I am truly surprised.

It is worth trying to kid yourself this is not the way forward as it stops you having to replace your TV, but if you are going to get a new TV it is worth getting a decent 3D one.
IMHO

Qtx 04-06-2013 23:30

Re: Virgin in 3d
 
3D tv is very much a personal preference. Some just don't like it at all, others love it while some occasionally enjoy it. So gimmicky or not, if one gains enjoyment from it then it doesn't matter.

Personally I watch about one 3D movie every few months as I only find the 3D of benefit if it has been done well, which only a handful of films do this. Simply adding depth is not enough to make me want to bother wearing the glasses although I do for the Sky 3D documentaries.

While many see HD as much better, there are probably just as many who think it is gimmicky and they don't need it. Hard to imagine that to be true when you are a geek or appreciate technology as we do.

Stephen 05-06-2013 13:32

Re: Virgin in 3d
 
Well next up will be 4K or Ultra HD. I was in Richer Sounds in Glasgow yesterday and they had an 84 Inch LG Ultra HD TV in store an my goodness the PQ was stunning on it to say the least.

Still think 3D is here to stay though.

bamav 05-06-2013 14:36

Re: Virgin in 3d
 
Now 3D on a screen that size would be pretty cool!

I take it that once you have 3D, you would start to watch more 3D and get more out of your viewing experience. The other issue that personally annoys me is the often higher costs for 3D discs.

I do plan/hope to get a new larger TV soon, which will no doubt be 3D, so maybe once I'm there I'll end up changing my viewpoint. :)

paultrademark 05-06-2013 22:47

Re: Virgin in 3d
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35579780)
Well next up will be 4K or Ultra HD. I was in Richer Sounds in Glasgow yesterday and they had an 84 Inch LG Ultra HD TV in store an my goodness the PQ was stunning on it to say the least.

Still think 3D is here to stay though.

I need to go and see this :D

Doug P 06-06-2013 19:23

Re: Virgin in 3d
 
HD is surely far far more useful than 3D...

Stephen 06-06-2013 19:32

Re: Virgin in 3d
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paultrademark (Post 35580216)
I need to go and see this :D

You will want one! Lol. If only I had £16,999 for it.

Tricky Trevor 23-06-2013 10:50

Re: Virgin in 3d
 
There is some 3D content back on On Demand at last

Safari 3D (13 episodes)
How It's Made (3 episodes)

cupcakes aka dd 24-06-2013 17:50

Re: Virgin in 3d
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tricky Trevor (Post 35587437)
There is some 3D content back on On Demand at last

Safari 3D (13 episodes)
How It's Made (3 episodes)

There are at least 4 shows now. I've just bought a new Sony W9 TV and I'm gonna 3D myself to death. :D

Tricky Trevor 24-06-2013 19:14

Re: Virgin in 3d
 
Thanks for that

Meerkats in 3D......simples! :)


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