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RichardCoulter 16-05-2013 20:24

Question for VM (or other) Call Centre staff.
 
In another thread I explained how, like many people, I get irritated by companies answering their 'phones with press 1, 2, 3, 4..music etc.

I had assumed that this was done to direct customers to different members of staff with each one specialising in a particular business activity.

BUT, after speaking to a young man recenty, who works in a call centre for a mobile 'phone company (not VM), he said that after all the different menus that customers are forced through, the majority of them get through to exactly the same people!

I asked if they at least received notification at their work stations as to what the customer had indicated what the call was about, so they had a rough idea of what to expect even before speaking to them and he said not

So, what IS the point of all these menus? Is it to delay calls to help keep backlogs down at peak times?

How does this work at VM?

I'm genuinally interested, should anyone know the answer :)

BenMcr 16-05-2013 21:09

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35572695)
How does this work at VM?

It works the way you think it does

Answering the prompts directs you the appropriate team as well as providing them with details as to where you left the automated system

danborini86 17-05-2013 13:21

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Also, some of the options do come through to the same department, however on our computers/phones it will tell us what type of call it is, e.g. if a customer comes through to me in sales, the customer will have been asked a couple of things before they get through to me and it will come through to me as either a cable sales call or a national/offnet sales call and then our targets are determined by those options.

Wild Oscar 18-05-2013 22:36

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This has been on the news recently ...
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Retired IT manager Nigel Clarke, from Kent in the UK, has launched a website listing the call centre menu sequences for accessing thousands of services.
He started the project after growing frustrated about the number of options and amount of recorded information on call centre menus.
Mr Clarke discovered that some automated menus have nearly 80 options.
http://www.pleasepress1.com/

clayts 18-05-2013 23:19

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We use a numbering system in our call centre (a housing association customer call centre) and the numbers do actually transfer through to people who are trained in the specific service areas available to the customer in the initial menu (I think there are now seven options).

What we don't do is have a second menu of further menu options as VM does. We tend to keep it simple.

There are some customer service advisors who are proficient in more than one service area, so they will receive different types of calls - the types of call they receive is determined by line managers.

The calls will flash up to tell the advisor what the type of call is (i.e. which menu option the customer chose) so they are prepared - it also flashes up on a screen so the whole call centre can see what calls people are on, or whether they're available, or on a break - it's a brilliant system and works well, as long as there are enough people trained in all the service areas answering calls.

Where the system can fall over is first thing on a Monday morning, but that's fairly typical for call centres only open Mon to Fri ;)

Doug P 19-05-2013 09:32

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Pressing buttons before speaking to large companies is something that is here to stay....

Ken W 19-05-2013 09:49

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Originally Posted by Doug P (Post 35573359)
Pressing buttons before speaking to large companies is something that is here to stay....


My doctor's surgery has 7 options in their menu!

martyh 19-05-2013 10:47

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Originally Posted by Ken W (Post 35573365)
My doctor's surgery has 7 options in their menu!

And I bet they all end up at the receptionist :)

spiderplant 19-05-2013 11:43

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Originally Posted by Doug P (Post 35573359)
Pressing buttons before speaking to large companies is something that is here to stay....

I suspect it will be replaced by voice recognition. Some companies already use that.

Ken W 19-05-2013 12:03

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35573380)
And I bet they all end up at the receptionist :)


They used to have 10 options on their menu and used a premium rate number (09xx) but after complaints they changed to a geographical 01189 number.

Yes they all ended up at the receptionist.

Helix 19-05-2013 23:46

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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35573393)
I suspect it will be replaced by voice recognition. Some companies already use that.

It doesn't really work that well though, as although it might be able to understand you it has to interpret what you said as well and correspond that with an option. Even Siri only works with a certain number of commands.

I had to phone Lloyds TSB the other day to get my online banking password reset, so I told the voice recognition that I wanted to reset my online banking password got put through to someone who then told me I needed the internet banking department and had to put me through to them.

spiderplant 20-05-2013 09:09

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Originally Posted by Helix (Post 35573693)
It doesn't really work that well though

I agree it isn't good enough yet, but it will improve. (I was responding to Doug's suggestion that button pressing was here to stay)

Maggy 20-05-2013 09:25

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Voice recognition..it's got to get a lot better before I trust such a system to work.

I just press the any other option button in the hopes I get a live body at the other end and that applies to all the various CS systems.;)

RichardCoulter 18-06-2013 20:23

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Originally Posted by Ken W (Post 35573397)
They used to have 10 options on their menu and used a premium rate number (09xx) but after complaints they changed to a geographical 01189 number.

Yes they all ended up at the receptionist.

So while your busy pressing buttons running your 'phone bill up, the surgery is making money from you :shocked:

I have just watched a programme from the 1960's that featured call centres. It said that each employee was given a 15 min break every 2 or 2 and a half hours.

What is the system today? Have modern health and safety requirements meant that staff get more breaks than staff in the 1960's, or have breaks decreased with the desire for "efficiency" and to meet targets?

Chris 18-06-2013 20:31

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I've found repeatedly pressing '0' usually makes the machine give up and simply put you in a queue to talk to a human.

andrewbrown 18-06-2013 21:56

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35585615)
So while your busy pressing buttons running your 'phone bill up, the surgery is making money from you :shocked:

I have just watched a programme from the 1960's that featured call centres. It said that each employee was given a 15 min break every 2 or 2 and a half hours.

What is the system today? Have modern health and safety requirements meant that staff get more breaks than staff in the 1960's, or have breaks decreased with the desire for "efficiency" and to meet targets?

I work in a call centre, although thankfully no longer on the phones. We currently offer 2 x 10 minute paid breaks, plus 1/2 hour (unpaid) lunch in a 7 1/2 hour working day. We also operate on 16-37.5 flexi contracts, which means that you can be rostered in for 7.5 hours per day, but you can be sent home early unpaid if it is quiet.

RichardCoulter 19-06-2013 02:06

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So if you work a 7.5 hour day and have a morning break, a lunch of half an hour and an afternoon break, that's a break, on average, every 2 and a bit hours, so about the same as the 1960's??

andrewbrown 19-06-2013 07:52

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Yes.

Maggy 19-06-2013 10:21

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35585619)
I've found repeatedly pressing '0' usually makes the machine give up and simply put you in a queue to talk to a human.

:tu:

Qtx 19-06-2013 11:53

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35585615)
I have just watched a programme from the 1960's that featured call centres. It said that each employee was given a 15 min break every 2 or 2 and a half hours.

Was very similar at an insurance company I worked for about 15 years ago. Apart from their 45 minute lunch break I believe it was one 10 or 15 minute break in the morning and one in the afternoon. Each group of staff was treated as a cell and some cells (or maybe it was just some people in those cells) could cover more than one area of business other than sales. They were always rushing around as in their short break they had to use the loo, grab a snack and anything else they had to get done.

The cell layout and how they were treated made me think of poorly treated cattle.

danborini86 19-06-2013 14:52

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I work in a call centre for Virgin Media, we work 8.5 hour days but within that we get 2 x 15minute breaks and a 1 hour lunch in the middle, it can vary slightly if we work a Saturday but mostly it's as I've written above.

Edit: a Saturday or a Sunday

RichardCoulter 21-06-2013 16:37

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Interesting, I had thought that working conditions would have worsened with the passage of time as companies strive for greater efficiency and cost savings etc.

BenMcr 21-06-2013 16:55

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35586830)
Interesting, I had thought that working conditions would have worsened with the passage of time as companies strive for greater efficiency and cost savings etc.

Some things are set out in the Working Time Regulations http://www.acas.org.uk/index.aspx?articleid=1373

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In general the Working Time Regulations provide rights to:

a limit of an average 48 hours a week on the hours a worker can be required to work, though individuals may choose to work longer by "opting out"
5.6 weeks' paid leave a year
11 consecutive hours' rest in any 24-hour period
a 20-minute rest break if the working day is longer than six hours
one day off each week
a limit on the normal working hours of night workers to an average eight hours in any 24-hour period, and an entitlement for night workers to receive regular health assessments.
Most companies do an unpaid lunch break so that is 'extra'


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