Can VM TV customers please answer this poll to help identify a possible fault.
 

There have been instances of a blue box appearing at the top right hand of the screen, with the numbers 888 appearing in it in white.

This may be a fault as, although the VM receive the teletext derived signal intended for DTT and Freesat customers, this should not be shown.

VM use a different system to generate subtitles, as do Sky.

If you are experiencing this issue, could you please provide any more info. you have in the main thread eg which channes, what times, which boxes are affected etc.

It is mandatory to affix a prefix on this forum, so I have selected V+, but this applies to all boxes.

Many thanks :)

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Some broadcasters put an "888" marker at the start of the programme to indicate that subtitles are available on teletext page 888. It's actually part of the video, not anything that VM are adding, and not a fault.

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I sense a mass compensation claim coming..............:rolleyes:

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As far as I'd expect analogue teletext and '888' aren't the default (or even possible) on any platform anymore - they all use DVB subtitles.

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Actually that isn't true. Most on channels on VM (and satellite) do still broadcast teletext page 888 subtitles. The box converts them to DVB subtitles itself before displaying them.

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Fair enough, you learn something every day ;)

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:LOL:

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you're not trying to access channel 888 are you? I remember something similar happened when my nipper got some rusk stuck on the '1' button.

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It looks like it's composed of characters generated by teletext as opposed to being on the video (like the BBC used to fade up and then down "888" to alert viewers that subtitles were available).

Why do you say that? :confused:

:D

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Do you have subtitles enabled? If so, it's possible that it's actually in the teletext data. Which channels are you seeing this on and when?

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I often do have subtitles enabled a lot of the time, but can't remember if I had them on during the incidents below. I watched a recording of the show and tried to see if "888" was a part of the recording, it didn't appear to be.

The last time I noticed it happen was on Fri night on BBC1. It appeared on the Graham Norton show at various times, not just at the beginning as one would expect :confused:

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:shrug::shrug::shrug::LOL:

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Just to add that I watched a recording of The Andrew Marr Show shortly after it's broadcast this morning and 888 appeared again (also on a BBC1 programme.)

I rewound the PVR and noted that they weren't present on the same segment of footage, so I have a feeling it could be a TV fault, especially with the results from the poll too.

How and why does this happen? I'm more intrigued than anything else as this is happening on a CRT TV that is due to be replaced.

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Interesting. Page 888 still exists on digital text on Freeview (not sure about Freesat). It carries an expalnation of how to get subtitles on digital TV.

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From hospital?

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I wonder if your TV is in teletext mode and page 888 is selected. Press the 'TV' button on your TV remote (often it has a blank TV screen logo)

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You have far too much spare time, wasting your time with such trivial matters as demanding compensation for a faulty remote control and setting up a poll about 888 appearing on screen is extremely pathetic.

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Teletext type programme subtitles are still available on at least one channel that I know of, namely French channel TV5. 888 is not the page that they use, but sometimes English or other language subtitles are available for a programme. These subtitles are separate from the STB subtitles and are probably not available on a record programme. IE to use the, you have to be watching the programme 'live'. Would they be extracted from the analogue broadcast signal and encoded into the MPEG2 recorded streams? Other teletext pages (eg news, sport) are also available on TV5, but they are in French.

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There's probably no analogue involved. MPEG2 transport streams can carry teletext and/or DVB subtitles. The VM PVRs will record them.

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No, at home :confused: What an odd thing to come out with! The TV in hospital isn't VM.

---------- Post added at 19:38 ---------- Previous post was at 19:36 ----------

Cheers, I'll try that when I am able to :)

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Teletext is not in the MPEG2 streams. The info is carried in first few lines in the analogue signal that don't form part of the picture. How would the other pages news etc be in the MPEG2 streams?

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Teletext was originally carried in the vertical blanking interval of analogue video. Because digital has no VBI, teletext is carried on a separate PID in the MPEG transport stream instead.

See http://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_en/...72v010301p.pdf
Also http://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_en/...75v010201p.pdf

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he's simply clarifying which tv you are talking about because in your other thread you said you where in hospital at this time so it is a tad confusing


My crt tv does the same if i catch the text button by accident and subtitles come up if available

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That explains it, cheers :)

I'm not even sure if this TV has teletext as I don't have the remote for it, I use the VM remote for everything.

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Just done a test with TV5 and the V+ does seem to record all of the teletext type pages, news etc.