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Daydreamer 27-03-2013 21:57

Sky sports F1
 
is it possible to subscribe to just this sports channel and no others

Gavin-D 27-03-2013 21:58

Re: Sky sports f1
 
No a full Sky Sports subscription is needed to view this channel

Dukefever 31-03-2013 16:41

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Dissappointing!

andy_m 31-03-2013 16:49

Re: Sky sports f1
 
In fairness, it's not possible on Sky either. It's currently included in the hd pack, but I'm sure Muppetman said that's due to change as well.

Webb C 31-03-2013 23:34

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hi i came across this thread and remembered hearing about now tv, its powered by sky and does TV on demand to your PC/mobile/tablet

http://www.nowtv.com/sports

hope this helps

ocav 01-04-2013 22:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by webb c (Post 35555094)
hi i came across this thread and remembered hearing about now tv, its powered by sky and does tv on demand to your pc/mobile/tablet

http://www.nowtv.com/sports

hope this helps

wow! £9.99 a day?!?!

andy_m 01-04-2013 22:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Webb C (Post 35555094)
hi i came across this thread and remembered hearing about now tv, its powered by sky and does TV on demand to your PC/mobile/tablet

http://www.nowtv.com/sports

hope this helps

This is blatant spam from a Sky rep.

joff81 02-04-2013 00:25

Re: Sky sports f1
 
sky sports F1 is ow offered by SKY as as a standalone channel (£5 per month for the first 6 months and £10.25 per month after that) its still also included in the SKY SPORTS and SKY HD packs at no extra cost (according to the sky F1 website).

I am dissapointed that VM can't offer the SSF1 channel as a standalone as I don't watch many other sports other than motorsports and I can get my fix on other channels but not having live F1 WITHOUT BEING FORCED TO BUY A SS PACK is really poor.

hopefully now sky have gone standalone they will allow VM to do the same sometime soon. if not I will need to seriously look at leaving VM for sky as 2 seasons is long enough having to hide from all news until the BBC eventually show their highlights half a day after the live event.

nodrogd 02-04-2013 11:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by joff81 (Post 35555425)
sky sports F1 is ow offered by SKY as as a standalone channel (£5 per month for the first 6 months and £10.25 per month after that) its still also included in the SKY SPORTS and SKY HD packs at no extra cost (according to the sky F1 website).

I am dissapointed that VM can't offer the SSF1 channel as a standalone as I don't watch many other sports other than motorsports and I can get my fix on other channels but not having live F1 WITHOUT BEING FORCED TO BUY A SS PACK is really poor.

hopefully now sky have gone standalone they will allow VM to do the same sometime soon. if not I will need to seriously look at leaving VM for sky as 2 seasons is long enough having to hide from all news until the BBC eventually show their highlights half a day after the live event.

Really! F1 HD has been available as part of the HD pack without Sports since the start on Sky (that's what the £10.25 charge is for, it's clearly stated as " for Sky TV with HD" on the F1 page.). If they will not offer the HD version to Virgin, you won't get a standalone option.

joff81 02-04-2013 12:18

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Originally Posted by nodrogd (Post 35555501)
Really! F1 HD has been available as part of the HD pack without Sports since the start on Sky (that's what the £10.25 charge is for, it's clearly stated as " for Sky TV with HD" on the F1 page.). If they will not offer the HD version to Virgin, you won't get a standalone option.

That's the problem there is lots of people out there who are willing to pay for SSF1 standard def but its just sky who keep it locked up.
This proves even more the deal was done with the BBC and SKY without the interest of viewer and each side only protecting themselves. I couldn't see FOM and Bearnie Ecclestone wanting to lock out any potential viewers by not having a standalone option to view, that was the whole reason F1 was free to air even when most sports were locked behind Sky's paywall, because F1 thrives on maximum exposure due to its heavy reliance on sponsors and when viewing figures are higher for a highlights show on BBC rather than tuning in live there is a serious problem that needs to be addressed.

joff81 14-04-2013 22:34

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I did say it was only a matter of time before Bernie Ecclsestone got frustrated with Sky's limited customer reach and started procedures to get F1 live into more homes for free.

http://www.pitpass.com/48862-Ecclest...ee-Sky-F1-plan

Lest hope sky see this and get it on VM without the need for a sky box regardless of it being free or not.

Chad 14-04-2013 23:14

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Originally Posted by joff81 (Post 35560892)
I did say it was only a matter of time before Bernie Ecclsestone got frustrated with Sky's limited customer reach and started procedures to get F1 live into more homes for free.

http://www.pitpass.com/48862-Ecclest...ee-Sky-F1-plan

Lest hope sky see this and get it on VM without the need for a sky box regardless of it being free or not.

It is an interesting idea. Maybe if Ecclestone covers 50% of the cost to provide people with the "free" SKY equiptment it'll get off the ground quicker. F1 want more viewers, SKY want more customers, a 50/50 split would be a great compromise.

joff81 15-04-2013 00:37

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35560908)
It is an interesting idea. Maybe if Ecclestone covers 50% of the cost to provide people with the "free" SKY equiptment it'll get off the ground quicker. F1 want more viewers, SKY want more customers, a 50/50 split would be a great compromise.

The thing is the infrastructure is almost already in place. Everyone has the availability to purchase a freeview box and VM, BT and sky etc supply set top boxes on a subscription base all that needs to happen is that sky make SSF1 SD a free to air channel and keep the HD version as subscription only then the problem is solved. Doing this saves all the extra expense of having to supply every household with a dedicated SSF1 box.

Chad 15-04-2013 01:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by joff81 (Post 35560944)
The thing is the infrastructure is almost already in place. Everyone has the availability to purchase a freeview box and VM, BT and sky etc supply set top boxes on a subscription base all that needs to happen is that sky make SSF1 SD a free to air channel and keep the HD version as subscription only then the problem is solved. Doing this saves all the extra expense of having to supply every household with a dedicated SSF1 box.

The point I was trying to make is that Ecclestone knew well in adavnce the risks of selling the rights to SKY.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/formul...ling-f1-179665

"The Formula 1 ringmaster said taking the championship off main stream television and onto pay-per-view would ruin the teams’ ability to attract sponsorship because of the size of its audience. “Sky is doing an incredible job but if you look at their audience figures they are nowhere. With these figures it would be almost impossible for teams to find sponsors. That would be suicidal."

It's not like the SKY / BBC deal was the only one on the table.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...estrial-147213

"FORMULA 1 bosses could have kept Grand Prix racing on terrestrial TV but they *apparently turned down a £45million-a-year bid by Channel 4. Leaked documents show the broadcaster was desperate for the motor racing to remain free to viewers and matched a proposal *by BSkyB."

It's all very well Ecclestone coming out suggesting what SKY should do to boost viewing figures however it's not really his place. It's a case of the tail trying to wag the dog. It's all well he's coming out with the type of quotes F1 fans without SKY want to hear, but what is he planning to do about it? I don't see him offering anything at all towards making sure the content is distributed as wide as possible.

If he was so concerned about the fans missing out, the deal with SKY should never have been agreed.

andy_m 15-04-2013 08:16

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I can't see that happening. There is plenty of free to air football - if f1 was made available for free I'd grab a limited stb and cancel Sky Sports sub, and I suspect many people would do the same.

Doug P 16-04-2013 12:03

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Years ago there was a separate subscription to Sky Sports 3. It was dirt cheap and rather fun and some good live stuff was on it when there were three events going on at the same time.

It was dropped long ago and cannot see Sky going back to those days.

joff81 16-04-2013 16:56

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people seem to think this is Bernie's and sky's fault for both dealing with the devil so to speak but what most people forget is that it was the BBC who actually screwed F1 fans over. it was the BBC who went to sky with a contract they couldn't afford and with a begging bowl agreed to hand it over for the few scraps the got in return. the FOM'S were tried because the BBC still had 18 months left on a contract they couldn't afford to honour.
The FOM could not sign a contract with another free to air channel starting 2012 as BBC still had the rights and there was a risk that F1 would not be shown at all if the BBC couldn't afford it.

the BBC agreed to sell their contract + right to exemption to sky in return for a highlights package to which the FOM agreed. the other solution was to wait for the BBC to fail to honour their contract, risk no F1 on TV until a contract was sorted and sue the BBC for billions in losses, a move that would of ended the BBC thats how bad the situation was for the BBC.

to be honest I don't think the FOM realized how tightly sky would hold on to SSF1 and its only now the FOM are realising how poor the viewing figures are on live races on sky compared to on BBC and now need a better solution to reach more viewers rathen than limited viewing sky offers.

banjo 17-04-2013 11:28

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I have F1 in with my HD+ channel would anyone know if Sky are going to change this set up because if they start to charge more I will drop the F1 channel !

robolots 23-04-2013 22:50

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I love F1, but don't see what the fuss with this channel is.
If you want technical info regarding F1 there are better sources than this channel.
If you want to watch practice/qualifying and of course the race they are on BBC (and in HD) all be it sometimes delayed.
Suzi Perry, Eddie Jordan, Ben Edwards and David Coulthard are better than Sky's commentators/analyists in my opinion.

I just don't get what the fuss is with wanting this channel so bad in HD?

toady 23-04-2013 23:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by robolots (Post 35564354)
I love F1, but don't see what the fuss with this channel is.

If you want to watch practice/qualifying and of course the race they are on BBC (and in HD) all be it sometimes delayed.

The problem is if you watch the edited delayed event, you can't use any of the other sources of information like live timing, twitter and f1 websites at the same time and you have to avoid any news source until the BBC decide to show it

Sky F1 SD is fine for me, I'd like the HD version but if Sky want to be silly about it it they won't get me to move to Sky

Hom3r 23-04-2013 23:19

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Im on VM, and get SKY F1, but watch in HD when the BBC are covering the race, and to be honest I'ld watch in BBC SD just for Suzi ;)

andy_m 24-04-2013 07:49

Re: Sky sports f1
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by robolots (Post 35564354)
I love F1, but don't see what the fuss with this channel is.
If you want technical info regarding F1 there are better sources than this channel.
If you want to watch practice/qualifying and of course the race they are on BBC (and in HD) all be it sometimes delayed.
Suzi Perry, Eddie Jordan, Ben Edwards and David Coulthard are better than Sky's commentators/analyists in my opinion.

I just don't get what the fuss is with wanting this channel so bad in HD?

I thought Suzi Pretty had a bit of a mare in the BBC's first live race this season - very disjointed. Having said that, listening to David Croft wondering why Alonso wasn't using drs late in the Bahrain race was irritating - made me wonder whether he'd watched the rest of it - and I'm in a minority of one in that I really dislike Martin Brundle.

joff81 24-04-2013 09:03

Re: Sky sports f1
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by robolots (Post 35564354)
I love F1, but don't see what the fuss with this channel is.
If you want technical info regarding F1 there are better sources than this channel.
If you want to watch practice/qualifying and of course the race they are on BBC (and in HD) all be it sometimes delayed.
Suzi Perry, Eddie Jordan, Ben Edwards and David Coulthard are better than Sky's commentators/analyists in my opinion.

I just don't get what the fuss is with wanting this channel so bad in HD?

Not really true. When the BBC get highlights you don't get the practice sessions on BBC you only get them when the BBC are live. also you miss out on quite a bit of action as well as all the live timings and other features you only get when live. Let's be honest highlights of football on MOTD is nowhere near as good as watching a match live its the same for F1 fans with a highlights show you keep wondering what's missing.

What's even more annoying is that costs have not been cut that much as the BBC crew still attend all races regardless of being shown live or highlights and it seem the BBC blackout is only active in the UK as I've picked up a US Feed on the Internet and it was Ben Edwards and DC commentating on a race live that was highlights only in UK.

andy_m 24-04-2013 14:26

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I've just noticed that in my last post my predictive text changed Perry to Pretty! That was honestly unintentional.

coulsontom 24-04-2013 15:01

Re: Sky sports f1
 
BBC is awful this year.

Sky have the best commentary team. I can't stand Ben Edwards screaming in your ear.
Damon Hill is a bit boring, Johnny Herbert seems nice enough, bit dim.
Ted Kravitz is the best pit lane reporter, his notebook very good and humourous.

I like Couthard and Jordan, but it seems to have lost something without Jake Humphrey. I liked watching them go off to buy dodgy shirts in India even if it had no relevance to F1 itself.

banjo 24-04-2013 17:26

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Originally Posted by coulsontom (Post 35564519)
BBC is awful this year.

Sky have the best commentary team. I can't stand Ben Edwards screaming in your ear.
Damon Hill is a bit boring, Johnny Herbert seems nice enough, bit dim.
Ted Kravitz is the best pit lane reporter, his notebook very good and humourous.

I like Couthard and Jordan, but it seems to have lost something without Jake Humphrey. I liked watching them go off to buy dodgy shirts in India even if it had no relevance to F1 itself.

I agree, and Susi Perry without a short skirt is out of her depth.

andy_m 24-04-2013 17:51

Re: Sky sports f1
 
I prefer Gary Anderson in the pit lane though.

coulsontom 24-04-2013 17:52

Re: Sky sports f1
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35564598)
I prefer Gary Anderson in the pit lane though.

I think he's terrible. He's hardly ever on screen and when he is, he's just a sweaty sod.

andy_m 24-04-2013 19:26

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I'm not really watching him because he looks good! I think his technical analysis is interesting. I have no interest in listening to Ted Kravitz stutter his way through disjointed interviews with team principles as if they'll give anything away of note.

piquet41 24-04-2013 21:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35564414)
I thought Suzi Pretty had a bit of a mare in the BBC's first live race this season - very disjointed. Having said that, listening to David Croft wondering why Alonso wasn't using drs late in the Bahrain race was irritating - made me wonder whether he'd watched the rest of it - and I'm in a minority of one in that I really dislike Martin Brundle.

Make that a minority of TWO. I also think that Suzi is a little out of her depth, but lets see what the season holds.


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