Formula 1 2013 season
 

As usual with 1 week until first practice here's the official 2013 thread with of course the drivers championship vote.

I'll close the other thread in 24 hours just to allow any final pre-season info to be posted.

As usual this isn't the place to discuss which TV companies coverage is the best instead it's purely about the racing.

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Whilst my heart wants a British driver to win it my head says its highly likely that Vettel will win it but as l am usually wrong lets hope that proves the case yet again.

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Not long to go now. Taping the press conference tonight, and got the practice sessions etc on to record. I'm determined that I'm going to watch the races in full this year instead of the condensed stuff.

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UK times for all sessions in Melbourne this weekend

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Even if he doesn't win I'd say he's a fair bet for thereabouts. Even though I'm not a fan boy of Ferrari.

I'm looking forward to next year, when the Turbo Years Return :D

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Sebastian Vettel sets second practice pace, as Hamilton retires.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/21796574

Lets hope this is not the case tomorrow.

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Q1 underway after rain delay!

Lets go Hamilton! :D

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Normally I'm rushing between sessions to grab a snack or cup of tea... not today :(

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Q2 and Q3 now postponed until Sunday 11:00am (midnight our time)

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Yes it does irritate me when the weather postpones things as midnight is way past my bedtime.:sleep::sleep:

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no sleep Den

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Been up since 5am hopefully I'll manage to stay awake for the next hour or so for quali 2 & 3 and will watch the race when I get up.

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I'm taping it to watch in the afternoon, rather than the BBC rubbish. So won't be looking at this thread tomorrow at all until I can watch it for myself.

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Mark no one tapes anymore you VHS! no seriously....



are recording qauli or the race ?

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Race, got an awful feeling it will be either Vettel or Hamilton on Pole. Hamilton will be praying for it to be wet, as he is better driving in the wet. I'm just hoping Button, Chilton or di Resta make a great start by winning. No chance I don't think.

I meant I am recording on TiVo.

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Not the result i wanted, damn those Red Bulls.

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Sebs on pole :woot: grass aint greener

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So who's getting the coffee on?

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LOL, gonna need a pot full just for me, God only knows why I woke up at 5.30, I'll have to have a kip this afternoon :)

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tea for me.

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The McLaren is slow...

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No wonder Lewis left.

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The race has finished now and the result is as follows.



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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/21812357

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Bloody family. I told everyone I didn't want to know the result until I watched it at lunch. Got woken up by my mobile going off and my brother had left a text telling me the winner. Not a happy bunny right now.

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I fell asleep half way through waking up for the remaining few laps :( good drive from Kimi I take it? was it Kimi who gambled on tyres?

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Sebastian Vettel takes pole for Red Bull in wet.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/21909869

Raikkonen handed three-place grid penalty for impeding.

http://www.formula1.com/news/headlin...test+Headlines

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The awkward moment when Lewis Hamilton pulls up for a stop in the McLaren garage :rolleyes:

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Its a very interesting battle for 1st and we are now half way through.

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Team orders played a huge part today.

Rosberg was told to stay behind Hamilton and Hamilton acknowledged this on the podium.

Mark Webber was out in front and fine with Vettel behind him and the team orders were to hold position so Webber tuned the engine settings down only to be passed by Vettel, unbelievable stuff.

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Typical German, trying to conquer the world against other people's wishes. And Hamilton sucks big time. About time Vettel and Hamilton got a broken leg each so they cannot race for the season. Let someone else get a shot at the title.

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Not cool wishing people injury Mark. :td:

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Indeed as l am not a lover of either Alonso or Vettel but would not wish injury upon anybody.

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Might not be cool, but I'm sick of seeing cheats prosper in this world.

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calm down Mark.

:LOL:

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Very poor words Mark.. They are both good racers and I can understand the team orders (the teams get more money/sponsorship for more points/placings in the constructors championship than the drivers championship) so having them fight it out and the possibility of taking their cars out (turkey 2010 for example) is something they don;t want to do..

I don't agree with team orders but can see that especially in this day and age there is a place for it. Vettel though should be sanctioned in some way by RedBull in some way otherwise it just confirms all that Mark said in the post-race interviews.

As for Mercedes they were both low on fuel so you can understand the team orders.. If they had let Nico through what then? All he would have been able to do was to sit in front of lewis and then lewis would have moaned.

As for Lewis well a picture says a thousand words, surprised that Jenson wasn't told about it on camera :D

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2013/03/22.jpg

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Me thinks Webber will quit sooner rather than later, to many bridges have been burned in SVs favour

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Indeed the look on his face said everything.:mad:

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He said it after the race really, when he said Vettel would be protected. Wonder if Vettel is related distantly to Schumacher?

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Sebastian Vettel: I may disobey Red Bull orders again.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/22106490

Most definitely related to Schumacher in my mind.:td:

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Lewis Hamilton to start pole for Chinese GP

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Excellent.:hyper:

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Not at all. I'm not happy, seems Red Bull are now making it clear which driver they favour. Not putting enough fuel into Webber's car smacks of someone determined to protect Vettel and nobble Webber so he has no chance tomorrow.

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I too instantly thought of Malaysia when Webber's car ran up fuel issues. It's going to be a constant ongoing thing throughout the season but I don't see Webber being at RedBull after the year's out.

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Fernando Alonso wins Chinese GP. Kimi 2nd, Hamilton 3rd, Vettel 4th and Button 5th. the last 5 World Champions finish in the top 5

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Excellent performance by Hamilton in my mind.

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I agree. I dont like Vettel but that was a great last stint from him and unlucky to not get 3rd. He took 13 seconds in the last 4 laps i think it was

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I really enjoyed that race.. Great driving from all those concerned :clap:

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You know what i think, i think if Hamilton and Mercedes can keep doing well till end of 1st half of season and make great upgrades in 2nd half of season they can fight for title. Hamiton is only 12 points behind Vettel

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Excellent result today, pleased to see someone other than Vettel or Hamilton winning. Seems very convenient that Webber's weekend was cut short in Qualifying and in the race. I don't think I can be bothered watching F1 this season if the rest of it is going to be like the last 2 races.

And I was so excited before the season started too. :(

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F1: Webber Signs 5-Year Porsche Deal ?

http://paddocktalk.com/news/html/story-219522.html

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If he has then I don't blame him. Be a shame to lose him though.

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Yes l would rather lose Vettel then Webber.

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Don't get me started. If I had my way, there would only be the drivers from the lower teams left in F1. But yes, Vettel is now my least favourite driver. He's replaced Alonso there, and I thought that would never happen.

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Mercedes' Nico Rosberg on pole position in Bahrain.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/22231116

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Hamilton with 5 place penalty for gearbox change. Only bit of good news I've had today.

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Bernie Ecclestone calls Bahrain government "stupid" to host GP.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/22231448

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The cheat (sorry Vettel) wins Bahrain GP

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Well the better of two evils l suppose with Alonso winning being the worst evil.:(

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Sorry, I would rather see Alonso win over Vettel. I'd love to know how the Hell Red Bull can be so good for so many seasons. Even Schumacher in his title winning seasons didn't get it all his way from the get go. I'm starting to grow disillusioned with F1, just like I am with several other sports/things. Maybe it comes from becoming older, turning into a miserable cantankerous old git.

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Snap:D

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We will have to disagree on that as Alonso has been producing his surly behaviour ever since Hamilton became his team mate all those years and the guy has just got even worse as time as gone on l am afraid.:nono::nono:

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Yes Mark you are a bit cantankerous and god knows what you will be like in twenty years dear chap.:D

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I know, dreading it. Victor Meldrew will no longer be a fictional character I fear.

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Button, Perez and Vettel not set a time yet in first practice with just 7 minutes left. Wonder why?

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Saying that, Vettel just gone 12th with first completed lap of the session. Perez has done 2 and Button 4 laps, none of which are complete timed laps.

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Perez set a time eventually, going 13th fastest. Alonso fastest, 1:25.252 with Massa second. Hamilton 6th, di Resta 10th, Vettel 19th, Webber 20th and Button not setting a time.

This is all from the live timing app on formula1.com

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Times during P1/2/3 are not really relevant, just a case of the teams gathering data under differing conditions/fuel loads/setups

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All drivers set times in second practice session. Vettel top. Weird how he is crap one session then brilliant the next.

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Ferrari's Fernando Alonso takes home win.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/22501385

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Don't like him, but was so pleased it wasn't Vettel that it was worth Alonso winning. See Mercedes seem to be going off the boil now, McLaren seem to be getting their butts into gear and hopefully the title race is now wide open again.

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Honda to return in 2015 as McLaren engine supplier.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/22551204

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Interesting P3 with crashes from Massa, Sutil and a couple more from Grosjean..

Qualifying should be a great spectacle

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Nico Rosberg beats Lewis Hamilton to pole position.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/22666326

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It seems tyres are a problem again today. So not a good day for me if stays the same.

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Well Nico's dad Keke won Monaco 30 years ago it would be a good for the Rosberg family

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RED FLAG

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big crash turn 16

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Restart at 15:35, and Alfonso has to give a place back to Perez after he cut a corner

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Nico Rosberg won the Monaco Grand Prix from Sebastian Vettel and Mark Webber.

http://www1.skysports.com/formula1/r...nd-mark-webber

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Nico wins the Monaco GP, the first father & son to win the at same race track.

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Yet another Monaco Parade, if it wasn't for the money available this venue would never make it into the F1 calendar

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Yes l have never liked the venue as you can't overtake and if you try to its very dangerous.

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And with the tyres this season, I doubt we will have a decent race at all this season. Pirelli need to make better tyres for the love of God.

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Whats everyones view on this Mercedes testing sega?

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If they DID have permission from the FIA to do the tyre test then I don't see how the other teams can complain about it, although I agree it does look as though Mercedes benefited from it. Difficult one this.

Personally, as I cannot stand Mercedes, I'd say kick them out of the season. Logically, I say they should stay in as they had permission from the governing body.

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Lol, Red Bull and Ferrari moaning, what's new?

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They did have permission from my understanding and at moment no evidence to state they did benifit from the test

Its only because it doesnt benifit them

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Heh, wouldn't be any different.

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From what I have read today, FIA are saying they had no knowledge of the test, so either Mercedes are lying about the FIA knowing, or FIA are lying about it. If FIA didn't have knowledge, then that makes it worse for Mercedes. If they did it without permission from the FIA, then I think a fair result would be a small fine and maybe scrap their points from Monaco.

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It looks like Mercedes should have used a car that was atleast 2 years old to do a 1000KM test, and not their 2013 model.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/22676348

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Ferrari investigated by FIA over alleged illegal Pirelli tyre testing.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/22741087

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Christ almighty, does anyone at the FIA know anything happening in the sport at all? Next it will be McLaren and Red Bull investigated for tyre testing.

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They used a 2011 car so surely that is allowed accoriding to rules

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Sebastian Vettel says he may quit Formula 1 in five years.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/22760347

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That long? Shame.

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Yes him and surly boy Alonso are not my favourite drivers to say the least.

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Well it is run by a Senile geriatric:D

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Agree about Alonso, but if it came down again this year to Alonso or Vettel then I would cheer for Alonso again. Marginally more likable then Vettel.

I know I shouldn't be so childish, etc but I would really love an injury to Vettel, doesn't even have to be in a car, that stops him from racing for 2 or 3 races so he can't rack up points.

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Just been announced on SKY Sports News that Ferrari have had their case closed as they used a 2011 car which was within the rules in their test session but Mercedes will be taken to a full tribunal. So sounds like they used either a 2012 or 2013 car in their test.

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Mercedes used this years 2013 car in the test. That has been stated. I dont beileve Ross Brawn would have broken the rules so i thik its ether FIA's fault or Pirelli's fault

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Didn't realise it had been stated. So wonder what punishment they will get. Probably a warning, seeing as how it is Ross Brawn, the man who never seems to do wrong with the FIA.

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I dont think he has done to tbh. I just cant see him risking a ban and his rep for a few days testing. He knows this year isnt Mercedes' year and know 2014 is the year he is focusing on

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Mercedes 'Welcome chance to respond'Link

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Seb on pole, Lewis second, Bottas 3rd

http://www1.skysports.com/formula1/live/#pod-hub

oops:

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Lets hope Lewis can do it tomorrow.

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Less than 45 minutes to the start of the Canadian GP

Full grid is

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Lets hope one of our Brits does well today.