Immigrants may face NHS block
 

It is being reported in various papers today that immigrants may face a block on using the NHS.

http://www.politicshome.com/uk/story...nhs_block.html

http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/...cle1224542.ece

I have no issue with this, if they have not paid in to our NHS then why should they get treatment out of our NHS.

I tried to get treatment for a cut foot in Cyprus on holiday and they flat refused me service unless i paid, i showed my EU health card and they still refused saying Foreigners have to pay. Glad i had insurance. so its one rule for them and an other for us.

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Will never happen.

They can try and bring it in but the second they do lawyers will be all over it like a rash. :mad:

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These are the people the government should target, all their benefits should be reviewed & leave the disabled & working man alone.

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That's messed up. They're legally obliged to provide treatment that would be provided on the NHS. Either that was a corrupt, incompetent or maybe private medical practise. It's certainly not 'one rule for them and another for us', they broke the rules.

The EEA healthcare thing should remain. It's very useful.

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Possibly it was down to the way EU laws and regulations are seen as more a suggestion in some, mostly southern, EU countries rather than complied with to the letter as they are in the UK.

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I had to pay in the end and then claim it back from my insurance.

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The EEA cards do not entitle you to free NHS style treatment ,they mean you are entitled to the same treatment as a citizen of that country and since you where in Cyprus then a contribution is made by the patient.

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Yet if they come here they get it for free, one rule for them and one for us. :mad:

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It's not one rule for them and another for us. It's the same rules across the country.

http://www.nhs.uk/NHSEngland/Healthc...einCyprus.aspx

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So if they come here do they have to pay to use a doctor or a hospital ?

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No because we don't. You're entitled to the same treatment as a normal resident. You think you should be treated different than the residents of the country you're in?

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Then why can they come here and get free treatment and yet we have to pay in there country, looks like a rule for them and a different rule for us. This is exactly why the rules on health care for immigrants need to be re looked at and holiday makers should get the same from us as they would give our people in there country. However as it stands they can come here get there problems sorted for free then go back to your own country laughing at how stupid we are to treat anyone and anything for free.

Another reason for me to vote for UKIP at the next election.

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Because you're entitled to the same healthcare as residents of that country. It's the same rule for them as it is for you. If a tourist is here, covered by the EU, then they're entitled to the same as you. If you're over there then you get the same treatment as they do.

You're not entitled to special treatment when you go abroad. If you went to Germany rather than Cyprus it may have been better, a flat rate of 10 euros I think.

That is an unworkable system. You expect to walk into a Doctor in Cyprus and demand you get treated better than the residents of the country because that's how it works in the UK? Not all places have the same medical facilities or systems in place to do that.

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If someone is living ,working, paying taxes in this country why shouldn't they be offered NHS treatment? Some immigrants pay more into this country in 1 year than people born here do in their entire lives.

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It looks more like you want it to be one rule for them and one for us so you can have something to moan about.

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Whats situation on ex pats and there partners and relations. Its known some come back to be treated by NHS.

They also got be very careful how this implemented not sure I would include brits who living in UK who have married foreign partner.

It would be so wrong that partner could not get health. Push millions brits needing go private insurance healthcare for there partner.

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I'll believe it when it happens. The thing is the NHS has never really been geared towards accepting payments even from those who want and expect to pay such as Americans who've been treated in hospital here whilst on holiday for example. In other parts of Europe it's for more usual to have to pay so the mechanisms for so doing are well established.

So far as the NHS being abused, it's been going on for years and it'll continue.

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No i want it balanced, if i have to pay in Cyprus then why not that they pay here. simple really when you look at it.

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But it is balanced in the sense that they have to pay in Cyprus as well, so it is the same rule. It's just that it's one rule here and another one there. Us and Them doesn't come into it.

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What immigrants are we talking about here anyway ,EU immigrants or those from outside the EU ,not made clear in the links

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The problem is that there are different health services in different countries ,maybe the EEA cards should provide the same service from the tourists country not as if they where a citizen of this country

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That would be unworkable, as the set of rules that local practitioners need to apply would suddenly multiply.

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True ,it was just a thought and thinking about it not a very good one;)

been having a dig about and it does turn out that the NHS does (or is supposed to)charge for some treatments ,accidents and emergencies are always free but some treatments may incur a cost but as mentioned the NHS is not geared up to take payments from jonny foreigner walking into a hospital with a bout of severe drunkeness ,at least i've never noticed a "pay here" kiosk at any of the hospitals i have ever been to

http://www.nhs.uk/NHSEngland/AboutNH...-services.aspx

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Presumably the EEA card allows the NHS to claim the money back from the respective health service.

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It won't work, human rights and all that crap. They should have thought of that when they came into power.

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Yes and I dare say some countries are far better at paying up than others.

Meanwhile this sort of thing will continue to happen:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/he...th-on-NHS.html

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Why does this not surprise me.

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To be honest, I doubt this would be any different anywhere else. What hospital in a developed country is going to turn someone away when lives are at risk?

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depends if they have a letter from their GP i think ;)

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Like Truck drivers get billed for illegals why don't see why they can't charge the Airliners.

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As a disabled Bratish citizen with multiple conditions so unlikely to be able to ever return to work I have very recently been denied the ability to consider treatment that may have improved whats left of my quality of life, treatment that was available to me 6 years ago and as far as I am aware is still being administered today. The reason given by this specialist team was due to cuts in our great No Hope Service.