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nstokes 03-03-2013 09:25

Sky Sports F1 subscription change
 
Seems Sky Sports F1 is going to be part of Sky Sports Pack only and no longer part of HD pack without Sky Sports

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...34&postcount=1

muppetman11 03-03-2013 10:03

re: Sky Sports F1 subscription change
 
This was always going to happen , those who already get it in the HD pack will continue to receive it.

nstokes 03-03-2013 10:06

Re: Sky Sports F1 subscription change
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35543677)
This was always going to happen , those who already get it in the HD pack will continue to receive it.

It was just a matter of time. Anyone that has/add's the HD pack before April will get it part of the pack anyone after April will only get it part of Sky Sports pack

jamiefrost 03-03-2013 10:31

Re: Sky Sports F1 subscription change
 
I big screw you customers from sky,

All for the cheap cheap price £9.45 per race

So is this money grab to pay for the obsene amount of money paid for football rights or the obsene amount of money paid for F1 rights or just a straight up money grab?

J

denphone 03-03-2013 10:36

Re: Sky Sports F1 subscription change
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35543655)
Seems Sky Sports F1 is going to be part of Sky Sports Pack only and no longer part of HD pack without Sky Sports

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...34&postcount=1

As usual like most companies they change the goalposts as they go along in order to get even more money out of customers.

Dave42 03-03-2013 11:19

Re: Sky Sports F1 subscription change
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35543695)
As usual like most companies they change the goalposts as they go along in order to get even more money out of customers.

sky only ever believe in greed you know that Den mate

muppetman11 03-03-2013 11:43

Re: Sky Sports F1 subscription change
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35543695)
As usual like most companies they change the goalposts as they go along in order to get even more money out of customers.

And this is why I've always felt that sports subscriptions should be seperated somehow , many people have no interest whatsoever in football and follow sports such as Rugby League , Cricket , F1 etc however to follow their favourite sport on TV they are forced to subscribe and pay exuberant amounts to fund primarily Premier league football which is not fair at all in my opinion.

denphone 03-03-2013 11:55

Re: Sky Sports F1 subscription change
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35543727)
And this is why I've always felt that sports subscriptions should be seperated somehow , many people have no interest whatsoever in football and follow sports such as Rugby League , Cricket , F1 etc however to follow their favourite sport on TV they are forced to subscribe and pay exuberant amounts to fund primarily Premier league football which is not fair at all in my opinion.

And l am completely in agreement with you.

colin25 03-03-2013 11:59

Re: Sky Sports F1 subscription change
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35543727)
And this is why I've always felt that sports subscriptions should be seperated somehow , many people have no interest whatsoever in football and follow sports such as Rugby League , Cricket , F1 etc however to follow their favourite sport on TV they are forced to subscribe and pay exuberant amounts to fund primarily Premier league football which is not fair at all in my opinion.

Sky is in it to make money...they are not a charity.

No one is forced to pay, and you could always campaign to make sports free. But until the sports themselves decide they don't want the money (remembering that each sports could broadcast for free, there would be a channel for them), then life goes on as is :)

denphone 03-03-2013 12:04

Re: Sky Sports F1 subscription change
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35543747)
Sky is in it to make money...they are not a charity.

No one is forced to pay, and you could always campaign to make sports free. But until the sports themselves decide they don't want the money (remembering that each sports could broadcast for free, there would be a channel for them), then life goes on as is :)

We all know they are in it to make money Colin but rest assured if it continues to rise in price for us subscribers then the golden goose that made them will start to lose its lustre.

Dave42 03-03-2013 12:37

Re: Sky Sports F1 subscription change
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35543727)
And this is why I've always felt that sports subscriptions should be seperated somehow , many people have no interest whatsoever in football and follow sports such as Rugby League , Cricket , F1 etc however to follow their favourite sport on TV they are forced to subscribe and pay exuberant amounts to fund primarily Premier league football which is not fair at all in my opinion.

but sky know if they lose football they will lose loads of customers too MM so they pay over odds to make sure they get it as vast majority of sky sports subscribers do so for the football

muppetman11 03-03-2013 12:51

Re: Sky Sports F1 subscription change
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35543773)
but sky know if they lose football they will lose loads of customers too MM so they pay over odds to make sure they get it as vast majority of sky sports subscribers do so for the football

Were in my post you've quoted did I insinuate that Sky should lose football , I merely said non football sports fans get a raw deal , I agree with Colin's points about business and other sports only to willing to take Sky's money even if the end result is less viewers.

Dave42 03-03-2013 13:34

Re: Sky Sports F1 subscription change
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35543778)
Were in my post you've quoted did I insinuate that Sky should lose football , I merely said non football sports fans get a raw deal , I agree with Colin's points about business and other sports only to willing to take Sky's money even if the end result is less viewers.

no where MM I was just making the point that football is what gives them there most customers and they could not afford to lose it and yes I agree with your point non football fans get raw deal but that why sky mainly focus on the football it makes them the most I know I wouldn't have SS without the football sky will make sure they never lose it

colin25 03-03-2013 14:30

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But...the raw deal comes from the sport hierarchy accepting sky's price.

they don't actually have to accept the highest bid...if they felt they wanted all to see it. indeed, they could give the broadcast rights for free.

And den I agree, there is a limit to how much I am willing to pay. Once I reach it..I won't pay.

For the most part..it is football I am paying for (not overly concerned about the other sports).
Eg depends on how much I will be charged for BT, I might not take that channel. The wallet rules my heart :)

Chad 03-03-2013 15:05

Re: Sky Sports F1 subscription change
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35543727)
And this is why I've always felt that sports subscriptions should be seperated somehow , many people have no interest whatsoever in football and follow sports such as Rugby League , Cricket , F1 etc however to follow their favourite sport on TV they are forced to subscribe and pay exuberant amounts to fund primarily Premier league football which is not fair at all in my opinion.

I know not everyone will agree however I'd like SKY to restructure their Sports content into 5 stand alone specialised channels. For example:

SKY Football - £14.00 per month (Nothing but football on this channel)
SKY Combat - £8.00 per month (Nothing but boxing, WWE, UFC if they buy the rights)
SKY Motor - £8.00 per month (F1, Speedway, Indie Racing League etc...)
SKY British - £8.00 per month (Cricket, Rugby, Golf and Tennis)
SKY Sports Mix - £8.00 per month (Cycling, Darts, NBA etc...)
A red button facility will also be available for each channel showing niche sports like table tennis, fishomania etc...

Okay so I know the channel names suck, and the packages would need some fine tuning, however this would allow people to subscribe to a specific sport they enjoy plus get some extra content on the channel too. If you take all of the channels then it'll cost you the same as SKY Sports currently does.

denphone 03-03-2013 15:15

Re: Sky Sports F1 subscription change
 
l like the look of Sky British.:tu:

Bogof 03-03-2013 17:09

Re: Sky Sports F1 subscription change
 
I have Sky movies so Sky sports only costs me £13, Now £13 for

Skysports 1HD
Skysports 2HD
Skysports 3HD
Skysports 4HD
Skysports F1HD
Skysports News HD

Is an absolute BARGAIN, forget £8 for this, £8 for that, nonsense.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad

SKY Football - £14.00 per month (Nothing but football on this channel)
SKY Combat - £8.00 per month (Nothing but boxing, WWE, UFC if they buy the rights)
SKY Motor - £8.00 per month (F1, Speedway, Indie Racing League etc...)
SKY British - £8.00 per month (Cricket, Rugby, Golf and Tennis)
SKY Sports Mix - £8.00 per month (Cycling, Darts, NBA etc...)

So £46 for what I pay £13 for???

denphone 03-03-2013 17:12

Re: Sky Sports F1 subscription change
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogof (Post 35543913)
I have Sky movies so Sky sports only costs me £13, Now £13 for

Skysports 1HD
Skysports 2HD
Skysports 3HD
Skysports 4HD
Skysports F1HD
Skysports News HD

Is an absolute BARGAIN, forget £8 for this, £8 for that, nonsense.

He asked a question that's all so don't get up on your high horse.:)

Jameseh 03-03-2013 18:52

Re: Sky Sports F1 subscription change
 
I pay £5 for Sky Sports 1-4, News, F1 & ESPN on the Sky Sports TV app why would I pay £13 for all that HD nonsense.

Quote:

Originally Posted by PITA
Skysports 1
Skysports 2
Skysports 3
Skysports 4
Skysports F1
Skysports News

So £13 + £9 for ESPN for what I pay £5 for???

jamiefrost 03-03-2013 19:19

Re: Sky Sports F1 subscription change
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogof (Post 35543913)
I have Sky movies so Sky sports only costs me £13, Now £13 for

Skysports 1HD
Skysports 2HD
Skysports 3HD
Skysports 4HD
Skysports F1HD
Skysports News HD

Is an absolute BARGAIN, forget £8 for this, £8 for that, nonsense.



So £46 for what I pay £13 for???

Great job of changing the premis of the argument and once again making sure the sun shines on SKY in the face of any negativity what so every.

For people who don't have movies and aren't interested in football it makes perfect sense.

J

Chad 03-03-2013 19:23

Re: Sky Sports F1 subscription change
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogof (Post 35543913)
I have Sky movies so Sky sports only costs me £13, Now £13 for

Skysports 1HD
Skysports 2HD
Skysports 3HD
Skysports 4HD
Skysports F1HD
Skysports News HD

Is an absolute BARGAIN, forget £8 for this, £8 for that, nonsense.



So £46 for what I pay £13 for???

If you go back and read my post again I did clearly say:

"If you take all of the channels then it'll cost you the same as SKY Sports currently does."

Nonsense :rolleyes:

muppetman11 03-03-2013 19:26

Re: Sky Sports F1 subscription change
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35543978)
I pay £5 for Sky Sports 1-4, News, F1 & ESPN on the Sky Sports TV app why would I pay £13 for all that HD nonsense.



So £13 + £9 for ESPN for what I pay £5 for???

Not quite the same though is it watching football on a mobile device , its ok for the odd time when your out and about but I certainly wouldn't like to view it all the time like that.

Stuart 03-03-2013 21:23

Re: Sky Sports F1 subscription change
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogof (Post 35543913)
I have Sky movies so Sky sports only costs me £13, Now £13 for

Skysports 1HD
Skysports 2HD
Skysports 3HD
Skysports 4HD
Skysports F1HD
Skysports News HD

Is an absolute BARGAIN, forget £8 for this, £8 for that, nonsense.



So £46 for what I pay £13 for???

How much would you pay if you didn't have movies?

Bogof 03-03-2013 23:01

Re: Sky Sports F1 subscription change
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35544024)
How much would you pay if you didn't have movies?

I'm not sure ive always had movies, I think maybe £29? But still worth it.

Ok, I've "researched" and it's £21 to add Skysports to your package, so £5.25 a week or less than 20 fags if you're a smoker or 2 pints if you're a drinker. It really is good value in my opinion. Yes I wish government would make it so no one could by exclusive rights to football F1 or any sports infact. That way we would have 10 channels showing F1 or EPL Football EG Virgin sports, BBC Sports, BT Sports, Talktalk sports etc and it would cost £5 a month.

By the way no one complained when the BBC had exclusive rights to F1.

EDIT AGAIN...............

Instead of costly OFCOM investigations into skys dominance,Why don't they just say in the UK its illegal to sell EXCLUSIVE rights to any content, Movies/Sports/HD/ etc. The companies won't leave the UK or take their content out the UK our market is too big. Someone needs to start a E-petition to ban the exclusive sale of Sports/Movie rights. Problem is solved overnight.

Sky won't pay £2 billion for Football rights if they aren't exclusive, the rights auctions wont get half as much money. Lets face it, we can buy..lets say....I don't know.......Broadband Internet from 30+ providers, so the price is cheap in the UK, But if we could only buy it from BT they would dictate the price.

We can only buy premier league football from BT or Sky next season, but if all football packs were available to all providers then they would give it us free as they would pay much less. You don't have 2 providers paying £3billion, you have 10 providers paying much less.

---------- Post added at 23:01 ---------- Previous post was at 21:53 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35543978)
I pay £5 for Sky Sports 1-4, News, F1 & ESPN on the Sky Sports TV app why would I pay £13 for all that HD nonsense.



So £13 + £9 for ESPN for what I pay £5 for???

That is absolutely not an option for me, I have a £4000 projector that I use for Sports/Movies in HD.

pip08456 08-03-2013 02:04

Re: Sky Sports F1 subscription change
 
None of you have realised the following, especially if you are F1 fans.

"The cost of watching F1 on Sky in the UK will rise to £510 per season next month.

On April 9th the Sky F1 channel will become part of the Sky Sports package which costs £21 per month on top of a £21.50 per month Sky subscription (excluding offers), with a minimum 12-month contract.

The F1 channel is currently part of the HD pack which costs £381 per year (discounted to £349.50 at present). Existing Sky customers who receive the F1 channel through the HD pack will continue to do so after the move. According to Sky, 4.5 million subscribers have the HD pack.

Sky is also planning to offer on-demand access to Sky Sports via its Now TV streaming website. This service, which does not require a Sky contract, will offer 24 hours’ access to Sky Sports, including the F1 channel, for £9.99.

Nine of this year’s nineteen races will be shown on free-to-air television in the UK. All the rounds are being shown on Sky."

Now that is DIGUSTING in my mind!

colin25 08-03-2013 05:49

Re: Sky Sports F1 subscription change
 
If you have the sports pack..it cost you nothing.

And that is what sky want people to have.

Bogof 09-03-2013 12:34

Re: Sky Sports F1 subscription change
 
Well all races are available for free on the BBC, just not live, Although a lot are live. Some of those not live will be on at 4am and other silly times so I guess most will of recorded them any way.

An if you think paying over £500 is worth not waiting an hour for the BBC show then you're silly. Personally I have Skysports any so its no extra cost to me.

Jon T 09-03-2013 13:12

Re: Sky Sports F1 subscription change
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogof (Post 35546230)
Although a lot are live

If your definition of "a lot" is 50%

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/21682493

colin25 09-03-2013 13:16

Re: Sky Sports F1 subscription change
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon T (Post 35546239)
If your definition of "a lot" is 50%

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/21682493

Depends on what is being discussed. half the queen's fortune..is a lot (my background, anybody with spare £1,000 has a lot of money :))

50% of cup of tea...not so much a lot

As to the number of F1 races...I'm guessing a fan would want all...for free...me, 50% is ok..as I tend to fall asleep during most races :D

Bogof 09-03-2013 14:25

Re: Sky Sports F1 subscription change
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon T (Post 35546239)
If your definition of "a lot" is 50%

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/21682493


But all are available to watch on the BBC on the day they happen. If your desperate for the missing 50% then subscribe to Skysports 24 hour pass.

Jon T 09-03-2013 17:39

Re: Sky Sports F1 subscription change
 
As far as this years is concerned, I have Sky HD, so i'll still get the F1 channel anyway. Me and a few mates both think that this will be withdrawn in the future.

Also, the races that the BBC don't cover live are not available on the BBC in their entirety, all that's available are "extended highlights", which is far from the whole race.

thenry 11-03-2013 14:33

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