Iraq War 'can't be justified', admits Lord Prescott
 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...-Prescott.html

This very frank admition on how yanks manipulated the public on true intentions america had for isreal. Why dont Tony Blair admit to it too. He still delusional idiot says he sick blue face trying convince people.

I always thought that there should be war criminal investigation to what happened. Those who faked, lied deliberately mislead should be charged and jailed.

Why we so much protecting these people. Many lost there lives for there little game. If we can trial nazi's after second world war crimes against humanity. Then surely those such as Bush, Blair, Prescott and anybody else should equally face trials.


So basically politically motivated to remove a leader.

You do know question our involvement in other small wars are political motivated. I always thought they was but to get a government or previous government cabinet member admit it. Would be like getting blood out of stone.

At least on his part he come clean but blair keeping his charade. I will honestly wont be shocked if they admitted it was only for the oil.

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And for once l agree with him.:tu:

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It's old news..I've got other issues to worry about now.:(

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I agree to extent but we surely should look at justice for those who got killed by this sham. How many british, american, other nations involved and those inocent iraqis families feel about this.

denphone I actually warmed up to him for admitting this. America need be pegged back they cant go around like this.

Whether saddam was good or bad for his nation we have to go through proper channels. Not lie mis trust its people.

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Oh do we really want to go through the country's underwear drawer at this point.That's the way to let the present government off the hook for what is going on now.A way for them to bury what they don't want to talk about.

I've got no issues with either the Iraq or Afghanistan wars.They didn't turn out how we wanted but frankly I don't want to put anyone in government on trial.Those that committed atrocities in either country yes..not our government.It won't gain us friends in any quarter.

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Well Der

We were lied to by Bush and Blair weapons of mass destruction that can be deployed in a certain amount of time not just fork handles but ball hooks too

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And we must never forget that thanks to Blair and his party we had all those men die for NOTHING. Blair and Labour have in my eye's blood on there hands over Iraq and they are getting away with it.

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Deffo mate . Both of them should be tried as war criminals

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Don't you just love it when, after years in power defending their actions and shouting down opponents, these people start admitting their failures after they've been booted out of office and are looking to get back in.

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With all due respect they didn't die for no reason.They died because they chose to join our armed forces and were asked to do their duty.That's the agreement with the armed forces.If we think that way then no one would ever join our armed forces.:erm:

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They died in a war based on a lie. Their death had no reason other than politics and oil . Are they worth our young mens lives? I do not think so

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But Maggy they went because Blair lied to parliament and this country to get the vote that sent them there.

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Glad some have no forgotten already what he did :tu:

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Were in the agreement does it say you'll be sent to die on a fools errand based on lies and to feather the nest of one of the main architects, agreements work both ways and If those in charge aren't going to respect them then they deserve to have no on join up middle east peace envoy, now they relly are taking the pea out of us.

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I am not sure if they died for nothing. Iraq could well turn out to be a democratically successful country in the future and hopefully that will be their legacy. Also I am not convinced it was about the Oil, the Oil revenues seem to be staying in Iraq (another reason why Iraq could be a success). Maybe it helped increase the stability of the oil production...

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I actually thinking this may done oposite made middle east more unstable been lots problem nations since war.

tizmeinnit well said its what I tried to say but you put much better. They died for there country thinking they was serving our country best interest. Now what we suspected been confirmed that even the No2 had doubts.

He still supported move because lieing yanks had motive for israel interests.

It would stabilise middle east:rolleyes:. Fact made it very much worse. In some ways similar knock happened in old eastern bloc which caused yugaslavian war.

How much was this ever divulged in enquiry.

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i cant take what this man says at face value ,until science discovers a way of polishing a turd he will always be a piece of dull dog doo in my eyes ;)

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Check out Mythbusters

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiJ9fy1qSFI

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To be honest it's very hard to judge recent history.It takes take time more than a lifetime for historic events to be seen as historic and to be seen without the emotion of the present and the benefit of hindsight.

I think I'm too close to these events and my opinion is likely to be skewed by many emotions. I'll leave it to historians of the future to make judgement on what has happened.

Frankly in comparison to past battles and wars we do have at least the ability to criticise our leaders.Thinking of all those serfs and peasants who were given no choice about whose army they were part of at least we get to choose in this day and age.

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Same here ;)

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What you mean is it takes time for history to be rewritten biasedly by those who gained power

we only just found out Richard didn't really have a hunchback

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In other words give it about 500 years before the events will be judged dispassionately.;)

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Nothing wrong with passion Maggy. We witnessed the events we saw them happen we know there was no weapons of mass destruction we witnessed the lies. The only question that needs an answer is was that scientist murdered of not

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You might have only just found out I've always known, the truth is always out there if you're prepared to look, the problem for Blair was it didn't require any digging to find it, so much so I'm prepared to accept to a certain extent they did genuinely believe he did have wmd's.

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Well you actually care about 'The Lie'. I don't as I expect to be lied from time to time on matters of national security and I just wanted Sadam gone.That was the real reason for the invasion of Iraq.

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Of course I care about the lie and to be frank I am shocked you do not.You must be totally at home in the UK then the amount of BS you get to hear here. They should have pushed forward and deposed him in the first war instead of costing our country billions and I dunno how many lives based on lies

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Of course they should but they didn't.That was when they let us down.That was when they Let a terrorist and a despot get away..As for the BS you should know that will always happen.All we can do is try and find someone somewhere in the crowd that is an honest politician and vote for them.

Always expect to be lied to..by everyone.That way you will never be surprised or shocked.;)

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So why did he not just say that instead of trying to scare the country and people by saying iraq could launch WMD at us at 40 minutes notice. The man was a liar and because he lied people died and there deaths are his fault. What scares me even more is what else did he lie about and we will never get to know.

So its simple when you think about it, he lied to get us into Iraq and therefor his lie killed people.

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I seriously believe the secret services topped David Kelly and I seriously believe people are likely to get silenced a little more than we would like.

Maggy it was never to get rid of a terrorist or a despot it was all about gaining some control in the area where there is oil. If we as a nation wanted rid of terrorists and despots why in gods name is Mugabe still in power? if you think for one minute the allies did this for the benefit of Iraq you are very naive indeed

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See it doesn't matter what they tell us..We will always find another reason to suit our own notions.Which is why I say that time and space is how present day issues will eventually be judged.We are here and now and we as observers can't agree what was what. It turns out we can't even trust what we read in the papers most of the time so how do we make judgements about recent history?:shrug:

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When the lights start going out here in a few years and petrol's £5 a litre, I dare say most people will wish we'd taken a bit more direct action to secure those oil supplies. :erm:

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but we know what did happen we know for a fact there were no WMDs we know for a fact Bush and Blair told us there was .

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I will say I wish we as a nation invested in wind farms ands wave turbines.

The USA have big plans you know to ensure the reliance on oil and the arabs is diminishing . Us in the UK of course can not seem or organise an orgy in a brothel

http://www.firstsolar.com/en/Project...ght-Solar-Farm

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Yes, us with a little foresight will be able to keep 'warm' in the knowledge that we were right and successive govts. got it wrong. Of course, in reality, they'll be insulated literally and financially from the affects of their inaction whereas we won't be...

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I just wish we could get away from oil to power our transport and that we had a few more nuclear power stations to keep us warm..But then we would probably be reliant on another fuel resource to be obtained from another fragile part of the world.:(

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Gets my vote every time.

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So they lied big deal most of us had worked that out quite a while ago and the war wasn't justified well thanks for letting me know john and only years after i figured it out for myself. Whilst this will only do harm to those who lost loved one's as a result of the iraq war although i think even they managed to figure everything out before john decided to fess up this is non news really.

As for the energy debate pointless doesn't matter what we the great unwashed think our politicians will sit on their hands afraid to offend or risk their vested interest friends until the lights do go out. Add in the nimby's who whilst wanting everything to stay on will not think about having the plants of whatever type in their area and we're pretty much screwed.