Cable Forum

Cable Forum (https://www.cableforum.uk/board/index.php)
-   Current Affairs (https://www.cableforum.uk/board/forumdisplay.php?f=20)
-   -   Why doesn't this violence stop (https://www.cableforum.uk/board/showthread.php?t=33692135)

Arthurgray50@blu 21-02-2013 16:33

Why doesn't this violence stop
 
www.skynews.fighting in France

Football is never short of its troubles, yet we find that once again travelling football fans have been subject to violence from the French supporters of Lyon.

Whether this is due to the fact that Spurs history is connected to the Jewish Faith, really angers me that countries still allow this behaviour to continue.

It has been said that three Spurs fans are now in hospital, and another pub just round the corner was subject to the fighting, and yet police were notified of this intelligent several days ago and the police failed to arrive.

Its beggars belief that you cannot go abroad to follow your team without without getting beaten by sickos. And it will be the British supporters who gets the blame.:(

Mr_love_monkey 21-02-2013 16:39

Re: Why doesn't this violence stop
 
Why don't these bad links stop?

Gary L 21-02-2013 16:48

Re: Why doesn't this violence stop
 
Link works for me. :shrug:

www.skynews.fighting

thenry 21-02-2013 17:04

Re: Why doesn't this violence stop
 
Tottenham fans dont keep getting attacked for nothing. and stop blaming it all on 'antisemitic'.

Mr_love_monkey 21-02-2013 17:07

Re: Why doesn't this violence stop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35539730)
Link works for me. :shrug:

www.skynews.fighting

How strange.

So all those people were attacked by some other fans, dressed up as a lion bar.

French people are strange

martyh 21-02-2013 17:14

Re: Why doesn't this violence stop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35539736)
Tottenham fans dont keep getting attacked for nothing. and stop blaming it all on 'antisemitic'.

so why did they get attacked then ? If it always happens to them ,or at least happens a lot then what is the reason

thenry 21-02-2013 17:18

Re: Why doesn't this violence stop
 
loud mouths. gobbing off. they bring it on themselves.

Mr_love_monkey 21-02-2013 17:23

Re: Why doesn't this violence stop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35539744)
loud mouths. gobbing off. they bring it on themselves.

Not really sure that the punishment fits the crime then...

---------- Post added at 16:23 ---------- Previous post was at 16:21 ----------

That is to say, that it seems a little extreme - If I smacked someone in the face every time they were a little bit mouthy....... well, I'd probably be a happier person, but that's not the point

martyh 21-02-2013 17:26

Re: Why doesn't this violence stop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35539744)
loud mouths. gobbing off. they bring it on themselves.

Doubtful given the rise in antisemitic violence in that area or in France in general

Quote:

A report published this week by the Jewish Community Protection Service (SPCJ) in France, said 22 antisemitic acts reported to the police in Lyon last year, the third worst for a French city after Paris and Marseille. Neighbouring Villeurbanne, part of the wider Lyon area also experienced 22 incidents, in what the SPCJ called "a year of unprecedented violence against Jews in France".
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013...ic-attack-lyon

danielf 21-02-2013 17:32

Re: Why doesn't this violence stop
 
Quote:

Sports journalist Christian Radnedge, a Tottenham fan, who was in the bar - an English-style pub - told BBC Radio 5 live the men gave Nazi salutes before launching the attack.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-21528416

Would suggest some sort of anti-semitic link. Whether that's an excuse or a cause remains to be seen though.

Either way. Seems to me the average away supporter probably has a screw or 2 loose regardless of the what team they support.

Sirius 21-02-2013 17:34

Re: Why doesn't this violence stop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_love_monkey (Post 35539725)
Why don't these bad links stop?

What link, by who :LOL:

thenry 21-02-2013 17:37

Re: Why doesn't this violence stop
 
a large part of French club based supporters are tapped in the head, inbreds! but so are the Tottenham fans. They have been told to stop with the Jewish link by various people, there was even a campaign but still they carry on.

Damien 21-02-2013 17:45

Re: Why doesn't this violence stop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35539759)
a large part of French club based supporters are tapped in the head, inbreds! but so are the Tottenham fans. They have been told to stop with the Jewish link by various people, there was even a campaign and still they carry on.

They were told to stop using Yid to describe themselves as it's anti-Semitic in nature but their argument is that they're reclaiming a word that was used against them. They've not been told to stop with the Jewish link. They're based in an area of London with a large contingent of Jewish people and have many Jewish fans.

thenry 21-02-2013 17:47

Re: Why doesn't this violence stop
 
the club is English not Jewish. They front it out as if the clubs Jewish.

Damien 21-02-2013 17:51

Re: Why doesn't this violence stop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35539765)
the club is English not Jewish. They front it out as if the clubs Jewish.

The club is English with many Jewish fans. Jewish isn't a nationality, it's a religion and/or ethnic group. They don't front it out as a Jewish club but they proudly embrace their history, their area and their fans. I don't see a problem with that.

martyh 21-02-2013 17:54

Re: Why doesn't this violence stop
 
Quote:

Supporters of Tottenham Hotspur F.C. adopted the nickname "Yid" (or "Yiddo") and often identify as "Yid Army". Used as a badge of pride by the supporters of Tottenham Hotspur F.C. in support of the Jewish communities based near to the North London football club, such usage is not without controversy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yid

Arthurgray50@blu 21-02-2013 18:15

Re: Why doesn't this violence stop
 
thenry,

Lets get one thing straight, l have been a Spurs supporter for more than 40 years, they have always been associated with the Jewish community, this is why there nickname begins with a 'y - army'.

I think you should get your facts straight about Spurs fans 'shouting there mouths off', Spurs have a strict policy that if any of there fans misbehave abroad, they face serious consequences from the club.

In my time there have been lots of trouble abroad when foreign clubs with there fascist fans will do anything to cause trouble towards fans ie the trouble with Feyenoord many years ago.

Spurs have a very proud record in North London towards the Jewish community, l am not of that faith but l have no problems with that, yes l do shout that nickname in the ground, BUT not outside it, can you imagine the aggro if the police arrest 35.000 fans.

Sorry to be so blunt, but we have a proud record abroad and most 'arrangement's of travel are carried out under the directions of club stewards.

Put it this way Spurs played Cardiff City approx two to three years ago, and l have never been so scared in my life with there fans, when Cardiff travelled to WHL, the club had TSG outside the ground, and waited for the City fans to arrive.

When they arrived, it was like a war zone of Cardiff fans wanting to take on the Spurs supporters, l was petrified, and l can handle myself - but this was London, so it can happen anywhere.

The Spurs fans just stood there - and l was one of them.

TheDaddy 21-02-2013 18:18

Re: Why doesn't this violence stop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_love_monkey (Post 35539745)
Not really sure that the punishment fits the crime then...

---------- Post added at 16:23 ---------- Previous post was at 16:21 ----------

That is to say, that it seems a little extreme - If I smacked someone in the face every time they were a little bit mouthy....... well, I'd probably be a happier person, but that's not the point

Your right being spuds I'd say if anything they were to lenient with them.

You're right about the link in post one to ;)

---------- Post added at 17:18 ---------- Previous post was at 17:16 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35539749)
Doubtful given the rise in antisemitic violence in that area or in France in general



http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013...ic-attack-lyon

Did France ever deal with its anti Semitism after WWII? Seemed to me an awful lot of countries brushed their own complicity under the carpet and were happy for,Germany to accept full responsibility.

Arthurgray50@blu 21-02-2013 18:26

Re: Why doesn't this violence stop
 
It is the second time that Tottenham fans have been targeted in apparent anti-Semitic attacks in the last three months.
In November, fans of the club, which has a traditionally strong Jewish following, were ambushed inside a pub in Rome on the eve of their game against Lazio.
Eyewitnesses inside The Smoking Dog said the thugs attacked the bar at 10.18pm on Wednesday night and then returned shortly after to launch another assault on the pub, which was damaged extensively as a result.
The pub's landlord, Dave Eales, from Retford, said the pub was "rammed with Tottenham fans watching the Champions League on the television. The front of the pub, which is made up of reinforced glass, was attacked by 20-25 people."
He added: "They threw projectiles through the windows. There was a stand off. They didn't get in to the bar. Then it calmed down. Then they came back a second time and it all started again.
"There were three injured Tottenham fans taken away by ambulance. One of them had a head injury. I'm not sure how bad it was."

This article has been taken from Sky News website -

thenry 21-02-2013 18:30

Re: Why doesn't this violence stop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35539775)
thenry,

Lets get one thing straight, l have been a Spurs supporter for more than 40 years, they have always been associated with the Jewish community, this is why there nickname begins with a 'y - army'.

I think you should get your facts straight about Spurs fans 'shouting there mouths off', Spurs have a strict policy that if any of there fans misbehave abroad, they face serious consequences from the club.

In my time there have been lots of trouble abroad when foreign clubs with there fascist fans will do anything to cause trouble towards fans ie the trouble with Feyenoord many years ago.

Spurs have a very proud record in North London towards the Jewish community, l am not of that faith but l have no problems with that, yes l do shout that nickname in the ground, BUT not outside it, can you imagine the aggro if the police arrest 35.000 fans.

Sorry to be so blunt, but we have a proud record abroad and most 'arrangement's of travel are carried out under the directions of club stewards.

Put it this way Spurs played Cardiff City approx two to three years ago, and l have never been so scared in my life with there fans, when Cardiff travelled to WHL, the club had TSG outside the ground, and waited for the City fans to arrive.

When they arrived, it was like a war zone of Cardiff fans wanting to take on the Spurs supporters, l was petrified, and l can handle myself - but this was London, so it can happen anywhere.

The Spurs fans just stood there - and l was one of them.

ive seen Tottenham fans, a big group gobbing off outside stadium. im not saying there isnt inbred going ons here. im just saying dont blame it all on antisemitism.

---------- Post added at 17:30 ---------- Previous post was at 17:27 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35539777)
Did France ever deal with its anti Semitism after WWII? Seemed to me an awful lot of countries brushed their own complicity under the carpet and were happy for,Germany to accept full responsibility.

France have a problem. they have done for years. these inbreds trash there own stadiums.

devilincarnate 21-02-2013 18:32

Re: Why doesn't this violence stop
 
Contradiction or am I just reading this thread wrong??

martyh 21-02-2013 18:45

Re: Why doesn't this violence stop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35539787)




France have a problem. they have done for years. these inbreds trash there own stadiums.


There you go then ,a hoard of masked men doing nazi salutes to spurs fans in france would most definitely be classed as antisemitic .

papa smurf 21-02-2013 19:23

Re: Why doesn't this violence stop
 
i look at it this way- football is not a game that intelligent people watch ;)
so when you gather a group of knuckle dragger's in one place the outcome is trouble .:)

thenry 21-02-2013 19:26

Re: Why doesn't this violence stop
 
not all supporters are inbreds.

---------- Post added at 18:26 ---------- Previous post was at 18:25 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35539799)
There you go then ,a hoard of masked men doing nazi salutes to spurs fans in france would most definitely be classed as antisemitic .

im not saying it isnt. im saying not to blame it all on antisemitism.

Arthurgray50@blu 21-02-2013 21:27

Re: Why doesn't this violence stop
 
I understand that Spurs fans in France are under attack from those French idiots.

papa smurf 21-02-2013 22:48

Re: Why doesn't this violence stop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35539926)
I understand that Spurs fans in France are under attack from those French idiots.


:shrug:

Arthurgray50@blu 21-02-2013 23:07

Re: Why doesn't this violence stop
 
Lyon have apologised to Tottenham following a violent attack on a number of their fans that left three Spurs supporters in a local hospital.

Just come off the Sky News web site

papa smurf 21-02-2013 23:18

Re: Why doesn't this violence stop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35539975)
Lyon have apologised to Tottenham following a violent attack on a number of their fans that left three Spurs supporters in a local hospital.

Just come off the Sky News web site

rest assured the peace loving spurs fans will be plotting a return bout ;)

like this
http://metro.co.uk/2007/03/12/10-sta...-clash-159160/


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 05:30.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
All Posts and Content are © Cable Forum