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Muslim paedo escapes jail saying he did not know 13 was underage
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...x-girl-13.html
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...-teaching.html I searched for his name but no results surprised its not here already. But seriously how can anyone buy this crap excuse ---------- Post added at 00:51 ---------- Previous post was at 00:50 ---------- http://europenews.dk/en/node/63519 they are laughing at us |
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Doesn't really matter what religion he is, do you not have a BBC link?
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just because its in the Daily Mail does not mean it did not happen
he used his Muslim upbringing as a defence so how can it not mean anything?? ---------- Post added at 01:40 ---------- Previous post was at 01:30 ---------- http://www.thisisnottingham.co.uk/An...ail/story.html local to the case press release |
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wow. so many flaws. he was taught women are pieces of crap but he must have been told about marriage then sex. thats a dead certain infact. id laugh but theres a poor girl at the forefront of this bs.
thesun published the story January 26th. the BBC have nothing. neither SkyNews. all i found was this.. biasedbbc.org/blog/2013/01/27/turning-a-blind-eye/ ---------- Post added at 02:54 ---------- Previous post was at 02:28 ---------- Quote:
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Typical, our laws are walked all over AGAIN.
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Hmm. That's a little surprising. It's not as if they knew each other in school or anything. It looks to me very much like a straight case of Internet grooming followed by sex with a minor for which he should now be in jail. I would be curious to hear what powerful evidence was offered in support of his claim not to have known it was illegal.
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Does 'ignorance' provide a possible defence for anyone who has sex with a minor (i.e. rape) then? Plenty of Savile's chums may not have known the girls they were having sex with were underage and how could anyone prove they did? :confused:
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Even if he really didn't know it was illegal, that isn't a defence is it? I didn't think any laws had ignorance had as a defence.
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A white boy wouldn't have been able to get away with it simply by saying he didn't know. and he didn't attend any religious school.
makes you wonder if this one would have got away with it if the underage girl was Muslim. |
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I find it very strange the only tabloids that run this was the DM and the Sun would have thought a story like this would have gone mainstream
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its a bit old now but I have emailed The Independent asking why it has not been run
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There might be stuff left out which makes it a less juicy story? Maybe.
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This is ridiculous, he knew perfectly well it was illegal to have sex with a thirteen year old. He's just a paedophile, he knows it and now everyone else knows it! I doubt he is Muslim otherwise he wouldn't be lying about this, must have no religion.
Whats all ridiculous is the fact they make it so clear about him apparently being a Muslim. "Muslim abuser who 'didn't know' " and the article starts with "a Muslim who raped a 13 year old". I never see them starting articles with "A Christian raped..." or "An Atheist raped..." they're just trying to twist and stir trouble. |
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He can be a Muslim even if he lies, just not a very good one. ;) |
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If this is true and he has been taught that women are no better than lollypops found on the street then surely the school needs to be questioned about it's teachings .If one of it's students has turned out to be a peodo then how many more are going around with that attitude .Were the Rochdale Muslims taught the same thing ?did they see women as pieces of meat because of what they were taught at a muslim school ?
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is this related to the same child grooming gang then? I found very little on this but nothing seemed to tie it to that case?
If not can the thread title be changed as as far as I could see it has nothing to do with the other case |
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My mistake, I thought it was related to the other case. Threads un-merged.
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The long and the short of it in my eye's is he got away with it because of sodding religion. Wonder if i can get of a speeding fine saying i was told speeding was fine in church :erm:
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Well I suspect that someone somewhere is going to be making a complaint about the judgement officially..
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Let's hope so.
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Can a lenient sentence be changed?
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Who can complain that a sentence is unduly lenient?
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I think that there is less than a week before time runs out
if the date of the first release is right 25th Jan then we have 2 weeks. |
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If his defence was that he didn't know it was illegal to have sex with a girl of 13 (I presume UK law he was referring to)
then what of his own religion (which he based his ignorance on) is there any age restrictions in 'Muslim' law? Does it even recognise rape of a child? |
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Unless there is something to this case which is not being reported (which wouldn't be that strange given the sources), I'd be surprised if the CPS didn't appeal.
Incidentally: From my reading, the judge didn't actually accept his plea that he didn't know underage sex was illegal. He was spared jail because he suspected it would do him more harm than good, not because the judge accepted his claim. |
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mess up his mind or something. ok. that's fair enough. I don't want to see anyone going to prison for rape or anything if it means doing so will mess up their mind. It would be good though if the judge could explain what he means by “more damage than good” because it does sound like it will mean the person will feel like he's being punished if he goes to jail. |
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Its no surprise someone like this would say that :(
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Linked to it near the start . Local press to the events quoting mothers distress over the verdict
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I dont give a sod if jail would have done him harm, i would do him a LOT of harm if i had the chance to get my hands on him. :mad: Dirty little pedo
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he got off cuz he pleaded guilty the mitigation was his religion whether that swayed the judge or not he used it in his defence . No way should anyone get away with a sex crime like this and this guy has as good as
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If the facts are as reported, the CPS should appeal, and he should go to jail. No argument there whatsoever. |
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They will argue he got a prison sentence but suspended due to mitigating circumstances and the guilty plea. Any right minded person will agree with him going down so we are both in agreement |
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if he gets off then the school needs to be shut down. whats going on at the religious school now? this has been brushed under the carpet by mainstream due to it possibly causing big problems by public distress. the authorities must feel they can deal with it themselves but I don't buy into it all. that school, unless it was some terrorist school must have told the guy marriage before sex. its so simple how can anyone not understand that.
with regards to doing more harm blah blah.. what about a prison sentence and rehab, you know what happens a lot when handing out punishments! |
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It worries me that there will be an entire generation of men who think like he does because of the closed community he was educated in .The school cannot be named for legal reasons so i hope that means it is being investigated and closed down as any state school would be if they taught children those morals.
When will Muslims realise that they cannot perpetuate certain aspects of their culture as they are not conducive to a modern multicultural society like ours .They do themselves no favours |
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In our laudable efforts to integrate other cultures into this country we have basically given free reign to allow inequalities to continue because it is their culture paying no heed to our own efforts get rid of inequalities .We ,as a society still have certain inequalities that need addressing but we most certainly do not teach it and encourage it |
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No he simply isn't right about that. Muslims do not want to rule the world 'when we're all dead'. Also martyh, you rightly aren't happy if people opposed to Gay marriage are labelled bigots but don't seem too concerned with labelling Muslims, some 1.6 billion people, with the same brush.
This guy is a Muslim, he may well have used his alleged faith in this case, that doesn't reflect on anyone but himself. He is no more representative of Muslims than a random Christian is of Christianity or a random white guy, let's say a racist one, represents white people. |
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You mean all Christians aren't like Fred Phelps?
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I've just noticed that the word 'Muslim' has been removed from the thread title ,i would ask why
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so from that it is plain as day that Muslim faith schools and muslim home life are teaching that women are second class citizens to be used as tools ,not all but enough to be very concerned about . |
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he's faked and scapegoat the religion.
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Well he probably wasn't Muslim anyway...
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This guy's upbringing is not indicative of all Muslims. It may highlight a problem in the culture of young Asian men and and woman but if we are going to examine that we must do so in way that doesn't make sweeping generalisations of an entire faith or race. |
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This is about a guy who had sex with an underage girl and used a Islamic upbringing in his defence this is incontrovertible |
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yeah but equally its contradictory. Is anyone going to actually believe a person brought up to follow strict religious rules have missed out the obvious? I mean marriage before sex is massive in the faith.
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is this explaining why the word Muslim was took out the title? because he is not representative of all Muslims? That's like saying that if a Christian did something we should take out the word Christian so people don't get the wrong idea? |
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http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/20...ia-eweida.html or the Christian B&B thread |
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I reckon that if you think about it. there's a possibility that there's only 1 true Muslim in the world. all the others do something that discounts them as a true Muslim. leaving just that 1 true Muslim.
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http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/20...se-appeal.html Does that mean that those particular Christians are representative of all Christians when it comes to gays? No. at least I don't think so. |
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ah i read the mails links :dunce: that just proves hes a fake known by the Judge :confused:
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You have to distinguish between members of a faith. You cannot label 1.6 billion people based on the actions of a minority who attract a disproportionate amount of attention. There are Christians in America who famously protest the funerals of solders, or children or pretty much anyone else. The fact they're Christian does matter as it's from their faith they have found such hatred. However that doesn't impact at all on all the other Christians. They're in no way responsible for their actions and we can learn nothing about all these peoples' character from those protesters. Also there has only recently been the scandal of Child Abuse in the Catholic Church! Yet most rational people wouldn't use it to claim that it is representative of 'most Christians. |
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It's not as simple that the religion teaches that woman are second class citizens. As with most religious texts you can use it to make either case. Also you didn't say some Muslims, you said most Muslims. You also agreed with a poster that Muslims want to take over the world when 'we're all dead'. Women are not equal is prevalent in all Muslims? Well in some respects the same could be said of Christians. After all let's look at the problem with woman bishops. What about society in general? Where it's not easy for women to reach the higher reaches of our society and where they're often judged more on appearances than on merit. Women who get leered at on the street or whistled at. I think women in society can be explored a lot more and it's not a Muslim problem alone. There is a problem in some Asian communities, predominately Islamic ones, when it comes to women as the Rochdale case showed (this case shows nothing other than one child abuser). However this doesn't represent Muslims as a whole any more than child abuse in the Catholic Church represents Catholics. ---------- Post added at 19:02 ---------- Previous post was at 18:55 ---------- Quote:
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Personally theres no excuse, hang the bloody lot of them.
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I've read the Quran but I couldn't tell you much in detail. Either I don't remember or not much was mentioned. It was iirc women should be covered and all, shouldn't travel alone, stuff like that basically in a nutshell keeping women under the thumb. Real backwards and no compromise such as women being able to be indepentant etc. It does say heaven lays at the feet of your mother so what does that say? I don't know tbh.
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well I can confirm the Quran does scream out inequality between male & female.
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If Christians were big on equality of the sexes they wouldn't have a problem with gay marriage. [/flippant] |
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This is actually quite old news now, I reported on this in another thread ofa similar topic on 27/01/2013 The thread title was: 'Indonesian judge says rape victims enjoy it' I posted Quote:
I admit that I do look at some very unreliable sources for news, but rather than taking at face value I research to see what I can find out about the facts of the story. This often leads to news that for one reason of another is not reported by certain organisations. Relying solely on the BBC as a source of news does not give oneself the full story, which can lead to an unbiased view. |
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