Child Benefit: £1m A Week For Children Abroad
 

So you have to ask the question is this true and if it is WHY

This another reason we need to look at why we are being forced in to this by the EU

http://news.sky.com/story/1047093/ch...hildren-abroad

If this is true and we have to pay this because of the EU it makes me sick and is yet another reason i see for us getting to hell out of the EU.

Our money should go to our kids not some family in Poland for instance.

This is the reason people detest the EU and the rules they force on us.

Re: Child Benefit: £1m A Week For Children Abroad
 

l absolutely agree with you one 100% as this is just another thing where money is going abroad while some of our own struggle in poverty.

Re: Child Benefit: £1m A Week For Children Abroad
 

Money earned or received in this country, that is not spent in this country, just makes our situation worse.

Re: Child Benefit: £1m A Week For Children Abroad
 

As you posted:

If other EU countries can make sure that children must be resident, than the EU hasn't forced the rule upon the UK. Perhaps the UK should simply take appropriate steps as other countries have.

Re: Child Benefit: £1m A Week For Children Abroad
 

Additionaly



Shocking

This is the hails take on it

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#axzz2Jwx6Zrf2

Re: Child Benefit: £1m A Week For Children Abroad
 

Sadly it's often our rules, practices and enforcement (or lack of) which is absurd. This ridiculous non resident CB thing has been going on for years and I've posted about it here before as it can amount to a hell of a lot of money in Poland and is bound to be open to abuse.

I recently saw a TV documentary in which a Nigerian guy in his late 20's/30's was picked up at Heathrow trying to get into the UK with a dodgy passport. When questioned he then started insisting he was 15 and that he'd fled Nigeria after his parents were killed by bandits. Despite the forged document and obvious lies about his age he was admitted into the 'care of social services' for age testing and a potential asylum claim whereupon he simply absconded. If it wasn't so absurdly predictable it'd be funny. The lunatics have taken over the asylum!...

Re: Child Benefit: £1m A Week For Children Abroad
 

Sorry, but it's not clear to me why other countries can arrange for child benefits to be paid only for resident children, and the UK can't. Is it the fact that the UK has compulsory NI contributions that sets it apart from other countries in this respect?

Re: Child Benefit: £1m A Week For Children Abroad
 

It may be the case that we are the only ones complying with the EU regs

Re: Child Benefit: £1m A Week For Children Abroad
 

No the EU is the Asylum and we are forced to be part of it.

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Maybe its because the EU watch us like a hawk :erm:

Re: Child Benefit: £1m A Week For Children Abroad
 

No ,it's because we take the moral high ground and comply fully with all the regs ,we're skint but very moral ;)

Re: Child Benefit: £1m A Week For Children Abroad
 

Sorry were not taking the moral high ground we are being stupid and not telling these people to **** off your not getting the benefit if your kids are not in this country. So i have yet another reason to add to my decision to get us out if we have a referendum. In or out i say ~OUT

Re: Child Benefit: £1m A Week For Children Abroad
 

You're preaching to the converted mate ,i know it's wrong and stupid ,it's the politicians that want to be all moral with our money and stick blindly to regs everyone else seems to be ignoring

Re: Child Benefit: £1m A Week For Children Abroad
 

Agreed, however if we just mind our own business and don't champion the reasons for leaving the EU then those with a vested interest in keeping us in will win.

Re: Child Benefit: £1m A Week For Children Abroad
 

I didn't think that CB was reliant NI contributions so it shouldn't be that, other than that i have no idea why we have to pay CB to other countries children ,there must be some obscure piece of EU legislation that says we must and presumably that same rule applies to all members ,it's just that other members may choose to ignore it for the idiocy it is .

Question ,are we the only EU country that has CB ?

Re: Child Benefit: £1m A Week For Children Abroad
 

I do think it's something to do with the compulsory nature of NI. And we're not the only country to have CB. In fact we're not the only country to pay CB on non-resident children: Germany, The Netherlands, Latvia and Czech Republic do so as well.

Re: Child Benefit: £1m A Week For Children Abroad
 

So it appears that any country in the EU that has CB has to "share it" with countries that don't as long as the parents are paying compulsory NI's in the country they are working in .

Since quite a lot of the parents are only earning minimum wage or very close that won't be a lot of NICs paid ,about a fiver a week NICs and about 8 quid for tax .I don't think those maths add up to cover the cost

Re: Child Benefit: £1m A Week For Children Abroad
 

It looks that way, but I've not found the exact reasoning.


Probably not, but it may well be that this thing is an unintended consequence of some other policy rather than a deliberate policy in itself.

Re: Child Benefit: £1m A Week For Children Abroad
 

It needs to be stopped and it needs to be stopped yesterday.

Re: Child Benefit: £1m A Week For Children Abroad
 

Just had a look through the HMRC pages about this and it appears that the child benefit (and all other compulsory NICs based benefits) are only payable after 1 full year of working and paying NICs .The same rule applies should English nationals work abroad .

From what i can understand we are only topping up CB to make up the difference between the 2 countries benefits

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http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/childbenefit/...k-abroad.htm#1

clear as mud ;)

Re: Child Benefit: £1m A Week For Children Abroad
 

Typical however that as usual we are yet again the ones getting shafted.

Re: Child Benefit: £1m A Week For Children Abroad
 

It all stems down to the fact that they are paying NICs and tax while working here ,that entitles them to public funds ,which includes benefits ,schools and hospitals after 1 year of contributions.The tax and NICs paid by British nationals who live and work in this country is nowhere near enough to pay for those services so how the contributions from a few 100k migrant workers can offset there use of public funds is beyond me

Re: Child Benefit: £1m A Week For Children Abroad
 

Well its yet another reason for me to hate the EU simple as that.

Re: Child Benefit: £1m A Week For Children Abroad
 

That sort of policy for all member states only points to the desired creation of a European superstate to me and that is something the citizens of the nations involved have never been asked if they want ,or those that where, were asked in such a way that yes was the only answer

Re: Child Benefit: £1m A Week For Children Abroad
 

Sorry to say but l said this happening, but members kept saying that l am moaning about governments.

There are loopholes in the benefit system, where people come to this country and sign on and then send money abroad, this cannot be right.

Each government that has run this country can stop this from happening, but nothing is done. A major problem is that to this government, they are making severe cuts to the vulnerable people in the UK, but the blatantly allow this to happen, this is why people come to this country, or are born in this country then send 'our' money abroad and it perfectly legal - well its got to stop.

The government can stop this tomorrow, all they have to do is get a law through parliament to say if you come to this country or are born in this country BUT want to send benefit abroad - you must go through stringent checks, that they actually live in that country. or you have been in this country longer than FIVE years and have an insurance number.