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Cobbydaler 03-02-2013 20:34
Richard III discovered?
 
I really hope it's him & it renews the debate on his bad (Shakespeare) press...
Quote:
The results of DNA tests on bones found by a team searching for the lost grave of Richard III are due to be released.

Last year the University of Leicester dug on the site of a city church where it was thought the king was buried.

They found a skeleton with a badly curved spine and head injuries consistent with recorded details of Richard's death in 1485.

Sources said the tests, the results of which are to be released at 10:00 GMT on Monday, had "gone down to the wire".

Richard's two-year reign signalled the end of the dynastic struggle known as the Wars of the Roses and is seen by some historians as the last act of the medieval era.

His death at Bosworth - the last English king to be killed in battle - ushered in the Tudor dynasty beginning with Henry VII.

Shakespeare then helped to make Richard notorious as one of the English language's most memorable villains.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-21292381

Sirius 03-02-2013 20:41
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cobbydaler (Post 35531474)
I really hope it's him & it renews the debate on his bad (Shakespeare) press...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-21292381
How do they know its his DNA ?

martyh 03-02-2013 20:47
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35531482)
How do they know its his DNA ?

http://plantagenetdna.webs.com/richardiiisdna.htm

I tried reading but it's waaaayyy over my head

Sirius 03-02-2013 20:52
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35531487)
http://plantagenetdna.webs.com/richardiiisdna.htm

I tried reading but it's waaaayyy over my head
That link reads like one of toonlights posts :LOL:

martyh 03-02-2013 20:54
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35531488)
That thought crossed my mind. They presumably have to have some DNA from a properly authenticated relative / descendant or something from another grave / body?
Apparently ,according to that link i posted there are still living descendants of the Plantagenet line and if i understand it correctly they have backtracked the DNA to Richard III sisters remains thus giving them a sample of his DNA

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35531493)
That link reads like one of toonlites posts :LOL:
I know :D bloody clever stuff though

Sirius 03-02-2013 21:00
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35531494)
Apparently ,according to that link i posted there are still living descendants of the Plantagenet line and if i understand it correctly they have backtracked the DNA to Richard III sisters remains thus giving them a sample of his DNA

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I know :D bloody clever stuff though
Indeed it is.

Cobbydaler 03-02-2013 21:05
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35531482)
How do they know its his DNA ?
They're testing it against a Canadian descendant of his eldest sister:

http://www.680news.com/2013/02/03/sc...canadians-dna/

Sirius 03-02-2013 21:19
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cobbydaler (Post 35531504)
They're testing it against a Canadian descendant of his eldest sister:

http://www.680news.com/2013/02/03/sc...canadians-dna/
Thanks :tu:

tizmeinnit 03-02-2013 21:27
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
Very interested in this as there is a lot of this and what come next fairly local to me. I have been to Bosworth Field a fair few times and then close by there is Kenilworth Castle where Leicester allegedly had an affair with Liz 1 who in turn had his wife murdered. Then of course Warwick castle and Warwick the Kingmaker I find it all fascinating

mertle 04-02-2013 00:59
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
just reading up on some this.

noticed lol earl of lincoln has been said weaseled out. Maybe why they called yellowbellies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Stoke_Field

no different the modern backstabbing polititians today.

Quote:
An impostor claiming to be Edward, whose name was Lambert Simnel, although it is difficult to say if that was his real name, came to the attention of John de la Pole, Earl of Lincoln. Lincoln, although apparently reconciled with the Tudor king, himself had a claim on the throne; moreover, the last Plantagenet, Richard III of England, had named him as the royal heir. Although he probably had no doubt about Simnel's true identity, Lincoln saw an opportunity for revenge and reparation.
Lincoln fled the English court on 19 March 1487 and went to the court of Mechelen (Malines) and his aunt, Margaret, Duchess of Burgundy. Margaret provided financial and military support in the form of 2000 German mercenaries, under the commander, Martin Schwartz. Lincoln was joined by a number of rebel English Lords at Mechelen, in particular Richard III's loyal supporter, Lord Lovell, Sir Richard Harleston, the former governor of Jersey and Thomas David, a captain of the English garrison at Calais.

tizmeinnit 04-02-2013 01:07
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
There is a chain of thought that say The Pretender actually was Edward but was forced into confessions that he was not to saves other members of the family. He was apparently identified by his sister
The very fact that he was not executed strengthens this chain as Henry Tudor was not really a forgiving man

I personally do not think the princes were killed in the tower I believe Richard died of sicknesses he had ( documented illnesses) and Edward freed

wwe 04-02-2013 01:36
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
How did they know he be buried there? And what will happen to the body?

TheDaddy 04-02-2013 05:32
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cobbydaler (Post 35531474)
I really hope it's him & it renews the debate on his bad (Shakespeare) press...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-21292381
the truth is there for those that can be bothered/ inclined to look for it, Shakespeare's hunchback wouldn't have been capable of what he did in battle.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by wwe (Post 35531589)
How did they know he be buried there? And what will happen to the body?
It'll be properly buried with luck and iirc it's always rumoured to have been buried around there.

Chris 04-02-2013 09:56
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by wwe (Post 35531589)
How did they know he be buried there? And what will happen to the body?
Greyfriars church, where he was always believed to have been buried, was on that land, although it has long since been replaced by a car park.

I believe they are proposing a burial at Leicester Cathedral if it is proven to be him.

denphone 04-02-2013 11:41
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
Archaeologists say skeleton belongs to King Richard III.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/s...-the-king.html


Thats brilliant news.

mertle 04-02-2013 11:55
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/bl...enet-king-live

seems its is him and some very interesting stuff come about the burial.

Quote:
Buckley shows an image of the grave and an image of the skeleton. He says the hands may have been tied at the time of burial.
Makes me wondered was he alive before being bound raising questions was he murdered.

DNA been positively identified to the best they can

Quote:
Geneticist Dr Turi King says both the individuals who helped with the DNA analysis are "the last of their line" – so in a generation this would not have been possible.
DNA analysis of the remains was difficult, but they did manage to get a sample of DNA to work with.
The DNA confirms this is a male.
She shows part of Michael Ibsen's DNA sequence, which verified the family tree Schürer set out.
There is a DNA match from the descendents of Richard III and the skeleton at Grey Friars.
The DNA evidence points to these being the remains of Richard III, she says.
What happens now. Was it common in those days to bound king chuck in unmarked grave.

Seems to me he may got wounded in battle bosworth. Whether those wounds was likely cause death who knows.

This definately adds more questions how and why was there fowl play involved in his death.

denphone 04-02-2013 12:02
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
Yes as a follower of history this is indeed very fascinating as he was the last Plantagenet king of England.

Chris 04-02-2013 12:33
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mertle (Post 35531644)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/bl...enet-king-live

seems its is him and some very interesting stuff come about the burial.



Makes me wondered was he alive before being bound raising questions was he murdered.

DNA been positively identified to the best they can



What happens now. Was it common in those days to bound king chuck in unmarked grave.

Seems to me he may got wounded in battle bosworth. Whether those wounds was likely cause death who knows.

This definately adds more questions how and why was there fowl play involved in his death.
It was regicide at the hands of another Englishman, whether in battle or afterwards. Foul play is neither here nor there, really - though I have no doubt there will be endless reconstruction docu-dramas made of this for decades to come.

tizmeinnit 04-02-2013 13:14
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mertle (Post 35531644)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/bl...enet-king-live

seems its is him and some very interesting stuff come about the burial.



Makes me wondered was he alive before being bound raising questions was he murdered.

DNA been positively identified to the best they can



What happens now. Was it common in those days to bound king chuck in unmarked grave.

Seems to me he may got wounded in battle bosworth. Whether those wounds was likely cause death who knows.

This definately adds more questions how and why was there fowl play involved in his death.
it was a war people die Henry VI was a bit of a git so it would not be a surprise if Richard was killed after battle. A King in them days could do what he wanted so no matter how Richard died its not foul play its a casualty of war

Uncle Peter 04-02-2013 13:35
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
Hopefully the scientists will see a willing volunteer come forward to provide a Y-DNA sample for completeness. They touched in this in not so many words in the press conference this morning. IIRC there are some living male descendents of the Plantagenets via an illegitimate relationship.

As it stands they have proved the link via two lines of descendency from Richard's sister: Anne of York.

Chad 04-02-2013 14:54
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
The programme on Channel 4 tonight will be a great watch:

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/r...n-the-car-park

martyh 04-02-2013 15:33
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35531598)
the truth is there for those that can be bothered/ inclined to look for it, Shakespeare's hunchback wouldn't have been capable of what he did in battle.
.
I always wondered that,i also wonder if he was really the bad guy portrayed by Shakespeare ,given that Shakespeare lived under Elizabeth 1 (Tudor) who's family was responsible for ousting the Plantagenet dynasty from the throne so he couldn't really be seen to be bigging the ex King up any(even if it was the truth) could he or he could have found himself on the wrong end of an axe

Maggy 04-02-2013 16:15
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
Considering Richard was supposed to have a withered hand but the skeleton does not show any such deformity, I reckon we do need to rethink the Tudor propaganda about him.

TheDaddy 04-02-2013 16:42
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35531761)
Considering Richard was supposed to have a withered hand but the skeleton does not show any such deformity, I reckon we do need to rethink the Tudor propaganda about him.
Or just dismiss the propaganda, the only two Lancastrian nobles killed in that battle were by him and he very nearly did Henry tudor in to at the end. I have a lot of time for this much maligned figure regardless of his bad back and possible child killing.

Sirius 04-02-2013 18:03
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35531640)
Archaeologists say skeleton belongs to King Richard III.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/s...-the-king.html


Thats brilliant news.
Indeed it is.

wwe 04-02-2013 19:25
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
Would Richard the 3rd not had have a Proper burial?

Chris 04-02-2013 19:31
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by wwe (Post 35531894)
Would Richard the 3rd not had have a Proper burial?
Dude, all of the questions you have asked today would be answered if you would only bother to read any of the news links that have already been posted in the thread. If you want to know why Richard III was buried in the way he was, then click this and spend a couple of minutes reading it:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-19474848

wwe 04-02-2013 19:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35531899)
Dude, all of the questions you have asked today would be answered if you would only bother to read any of the news links that have already been posted in the thread. If you want to know why Richard III was buried in the way he was, then click this and spend a couple of minutes reading it:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-19474848
I was just reading thought all the post. As this is very Interesting. Sorry

Hom3r 04-02-2013 19:46
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35531761)
Considering Richard was supposed to have a withered hand but the skeleton does not show any such deformity, I reckon we do need to rethink the Tudor propaganda about him.
Remember that history is often written by the victors and often portrays the loser in a negative light.

If any one here has seen the opening of Black adder 1 it say that history portrayed Richard III as an evil man who killed the princes, but he loved them and played games with them.

Whose not to say Black Adder was correct?

danielf 04-02-2013 19:48
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35531899)
Dude, all of the questions you have asked today would be answered if you would only bother to read any of the news links that have already been posted in the thread. If you want to know why Richard III was buried in the way he was, then click this and spend a couple of minutes reading it:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-19474848
Yeah, but a car park? :rolleyes:

Chris 04-02-2013 19:53
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35531908)
Remember that history is often written by the victors and often portrays the loser in a negative light.

If any one here has seen the opening of Black adder 1 it say that history portrayed Richard III as an evil man who killed the princes, but he loved them and played games with them.

Whose not to say Black Adder was correct?
The Black Adder was set in an alternative history in which Richard III won the battle of Bosworth, only to be mistaken for someone else, murdered and then succeeded by Richard IV. It also makes jokes about people coming back from the Crusades, even though the crusades really finished a couple of hundred years earlier.

If The Black Adder got anything historically correct, it was entirely by accident.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by danielf (Post 35531911)
Yeah, but a car park? :rolleyes:
Because the Tudors believed burying someone under tarmac prevented their soul from ascending to heaven. Don't you read anything?! :p:

Uncle Peter 04-02-2013 19:59
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
The Tudors were a right old Jolly bunch, grave robbing, persecuting and burning the poor, bankrupting the country fighting the sodding French so maybe now poor ol' King Richie will managed to claw some of his reputation back.

martyh 04-02-2013 20:43
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35531937)
Well I had a hunch it would be Richard III

Somebody had to use it, seeing as the ronery jokes are now off. :D
Very funny ,:)
i was wondering if there will be a parking fine payable if they find a buried cart or some such near his body ?

tizmeinnit 04-02-2013 20:44
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
they might find ye olde English clamp :)

martyh 04-02-2013 20:44
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncle Peter (Post 35531917)
The Tudors were a right old Jolly bunch, grave robbing, persecuting and burning the poor, bankrupting the country fighting the sodding French so maybe now poor ol' King Richie will managed to claw some of his reputation back.
Sounds likes some of our politicians today ,funny how history repeats

Cobbydaler 04-02-2013 21:26
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Everyone should read The Daughter of Time by Josephine Tey. Styled as a detective story, it posits the truth.
Quote:
Richard III reigned for only two years, and for centuries he was villified as the hunch-backed wicked uncle, murderer of the princes in the Tower. Josephine Tey's novel The Daughter of Time is an investigation into the real facts behind the last Plantagenet king's reign, and an attempt to right what many believe to be the terrible injustice done to him by the Tudor dynasty.

Inspector Alan Grant of Scotland Yard, recuperating from a broken leg, becomes fascinated with a contemporary portrait of Richard III that bears no resemblance to the Wicked Uncle of history. Could such a sensitive, noble face actually belong to one of the world's most heinous villains - a venomous hunchback who may have killed his brother's children to make his crown secure? Or could Richard have been the victim, turned into a monster by the the Tudors?

Grant determines to find out once and for all, with the help of the British Museum and an American scholar, what kind of man Richard III really was and who killed the Princes in the Tower.

martyh 04-02-2013 21:31
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tizmeinnit (Post 35531945)
they might find ye olde English clamp :)
:D

Sirius 04-02-2013 22:02
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
King Richard III's remains have been found buried under a car park in Leicester. It appears he was stabbed and hacked to death before burial.
However, ATOS have said his spine is fine, and have declared him Fit to Work.

:)

raging bull 04-02-2013 22:21
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
Talk on BBC Look North, regarding burial of Richard.
Learned Prof of York University reconns that Richard (of York) should be buried within York Minster, think of the visitor attraction money rolling in. lol

banjo 04-02-2013 22:40
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
If they keep digging he might be still sitting on his horse !

Maggy 04-02-2013 22:51
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
Sigh! Why not just watch the Channel 4 programme and be educated?:rolleyes:

Sirius 04-02-2013 23:04
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35532034)
Sigh! Why not just watch the Channel 4 programme and be educated?:rolleyes:
I am and its incredible

martyh 04-02-2013 23:06
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35532041)
I am and its incredible
bet it's not as funny as black adders version though:)

Chris 04-02-2013 23:15
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
Stupid deaths, stupid deaths, it's funny cause it's true .... :D

wwe 04-02-2013 23:43
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
They may be orther stuff buried down there

Chris 04-02-2013 23:49
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
What sort of stuff?

danielf 04-02-2013 23:51
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
The stuff they forgot when they closed her up?

AdamD 05-02-2013 00:04
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
Oh wow, one of the questions on the BBC news report:

"Why did they bury him under a car park?"

But the reply from another user, was pretty darned funny:

"It was very common in Richard's time for losers in Battle to be buried in Car parks

Dont forget cars were a symbol of power in those days"

:D:D

tizmeinnit 05-02-2013 00:42
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
So he didn't have a hunch and his arms were normal although effeminate so that blows the Tudor accounts and with how he was thought of in York I believe in stronger than before that he did not kill the princes . Very interesting documentary

wwe 05-02-2013 01:22
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35532067)
What sort of stuff?
I was Thinking if his rings and Orther Jewley but now I reckon they would had stolen them

Uncle Peter 05-02-2013 01:51
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
Judging by the number of Honda adverts during the documentary it's hardly a surprise he was buried in a car park.

Maggy 05-02-2013 12:10
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by wwe (Post 35532111)
I was Thinking if his rings and Orther Jewley but now I reckon they would had stolen them
Yep.After all, if they nicked his clothes and left his bling they would be pretty stupid.;)

denphone 05-02-2013 15:49
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
Archaeologists hunt for Alfred the Great remains.

http://www.itv.com/news/2013-02-05/a...great-remains/

Sparkle 05-02-2013 17:03
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
Initially, the skeleton was believed to be that of a leading politician, but this has since been ruled out after they found a spine.

banjo 05-02-2013 17:12
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
No the spine was bent so it still could be a politician !

Cobbydaler 05-02-2013 18:54
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
A spat has broken out over where he should be buried:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-21336248

Personally, I think York...

Chris 05-02-2013 18:57
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
I also think he should be re-interred in York, preferably under the choir within the Minster. I suspect the licence to dig up bones, which placed a deadline on re-interrment and specified as near to the original site as possible, was written out by some lackadaisical civil servant who didn't expect them to find anything of significance.

danielf 05-02-2013 19:02
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
I think Madam Tussauds seems appropriate.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2013/02/58.jpg

tizmeinnit 05-02-2013 19:02
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cobbydaler (Post 35532467)
A spat has broken out over where he should be buried:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-21336248

Personally, I think York...
I agree he was loved in York and afterall he was only buried in Leicester he did not die there otherwise I would say bury him at Bosworth

beeman 05-02-2013 20:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tizmeinnit (Post 35532475)
I agree he was loved in York and afterall he was only buried in Leicester he did not die there otherwise I would say bury him at Bosworth
I disagree. he wasn't from York, his family wasn't from York, He simply held a (even in his time) ancient title from York.

He was born and spend most of his childhood in his ancestral home in Northamptonshire (the city at the time now tiny village of Fotheringhay). Which also is where most of his family are burred. IMO that would bee the most fitting place for burial (either that or Westminster abbey along with most past Kings of England).

Uncle Peter 05-02-2013 21:32
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
Has to be the closest place to where he was exhumed according to the letter of the law apparently. This was mentioned in the press conference yesterday.

wwe 05-02-2013 23:17
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
I think he should be at York as that's where he was born and met his queen. I thought usually they all get buried at Westminster?

Mick 06-02-2013 13:38
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
LOL @ MP in today's PMQs "Will the Prime Minister confirm that ATOS has declared Richard III, fit for work?"

tizmeinnit 06-02-2013 15:50
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
I had that in an email yesterday the MP plagiarised lol ( bought true thought )

banjo 06-02-2013 17:44
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35532893)
LOL @ MP in today's PMQs "Will the Prime Minister confirm that ATOS has declared Richard III, fit for work?"
LOL :)

thenry 14-02-2013 18:13
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
Quote:
Music from King Richard III's life

A recording of music from King Richard III's lifetime has been released - including a dance possibly played at a notorious Christmas party he hosted.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-21461112

Uncle Peter 14-02-2013 18:20
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
Bit crap that, where's the bling? you could say it's a bit of an Ikea job: Plain and functional.

Edward the Confessor holds all the bragging rights when it comes to tombs around these parts, unfortunately he never actually got to live in it.

Sirius 14-02-2013 18:47
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
Its the sort of tomb you can hide in a corner out of the way ;)

banjo 14-02-2013 18:55
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
I like it, less is more

Sirius 14-02-2013 19:02
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by banjo (Post 35536608)
I like it, less is more
Oh i like it, its just not the tomb i was expecting them to make for him.

banjo 14-02-2013 19:13
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
What do you want ?

Maggy 14-02-2013 19:15
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
Well I think one with his effigy on top and a crown on his brow.Something more traditional for the time in which he lived.:erm:

Sirius 14-02-2013 19:20
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by banjo (Post 35536614)
What do you want ?
Something that is fit for a king.

banjo 14-02-2013 19:25
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
The design put forward is exactly that, do you want a gold crown horses rampant ?

wwe 14-02-2013 22:56
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
When will his Funeral be? Will the royal family Attend?

joglynne 29-07-2013 19:35
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
Bumping the thread to give a final updates on the excavations.

Quote:
King Richard III Found in 'Untidy Lozenge-Shaped Grave'

An academic paper on the archaeology of the Search for Richard III reveals for the first time specific details of the grave dug for King Richard III and discovered under a car park in Leicester.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0523223744.htm

Quote:
July 28, 2013 — Archaeologists have unearthed a mysterious coffin-within-a-coffin near the final resting place of Richard III.

The University of Leicester team lifted the lid of a medieval stone coffin this week -- the final week of their second dig at the Grey Friars site, where the medieval king was discovered in September 2012.

This is the first fully intact stone coffin to be discovered in Leicester in controlled excavations -- and is believed to contain one of the friary's founders or a medieval monk.

tizmeinnit 29-07-2013 20:24
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
Finding Richard how they did and proving the Tudor propaganda is false makes me think Perkin Warbeck really was Richard and Edward died of natural causes in the tower and not at the hands of Richard III. At that time having a living air meant a lot and Henry Tudor although having a claim to the throne was 6th in line at one point seeing every other heir die ( or maybe not in Richards case) in front of him

Chris 16-08-2013 12:45
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
15 living descendants of Richard III have won the right to a judicial review into plans to bury him in Leicester. They want him buried in York Minster.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-23726011

tizmeinnit 16-08-2013 14:04
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
I personally think Richard has been seriously hard done by by history. I do not think the Princes died in the tower Edward I believe died of natural causes and Richard sent to France. I also agree he should be buried at York after all it was the betrayal of Leicester that lost him the crown anyway

richard s 16-08-2013 15:00
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
Its a shame that the English Republic did not survive. Long live Oliver Cromwell.

Uncle Peter 18-08-2013 00:54
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
Meanwhile.. on the Richard III Ward

http://youtu.be/pbS2WJdav6c

Cobbydaler 23-05-2014 13:49
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
Bid to have him buried in York fails :(

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-27537836

tizmeinnit 23-05-2014 14:13
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cobbydaler (Post 35700765)
Bid to have him buried in York fails :(

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-27537836
Does seem strange that he should be left buried where he died instead of buried when he considered home.

Kursk 23-05-2014 16:41
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
Couldn't he just be bunged in a black bin and the Council called to dispose of him? Please do not use the green bin as we don't want to recycle him:D

Cobbydaler 03-12-2014 19:24
Re: Richard III discovered?
 
Confirmed

http://www.livescience.com/48963-kin...confirmed.html


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