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Gary L 02-02-2013 10:52

'Traces of pork DNA' found in Halal prison meat
 
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The Ministry of Justice is to suspend a firm supplying meat to prisons after tests found that it may have provided pies and pasties described as Halal - but with traces of pork DNA.
The Food Standards Agency (FSA) said the "local authority" involved was investigating, while the MoJ said the products have been withdrawn.
Justice minister Jeremy Wright said the incident was "absolutely unacceptable".
Under Islamic law, Muslims are strictly forbidden to eat pork.
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"This is very serious because no Muslim would ever eat pork meat - anything to do with pork - and it must be very distressing for those in prison who have been given this meat to realise they may have been eating food which was contaminated with pig."
Unbelievable.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21302925

tizmeinnit 02-02-2013 10:54

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lmao sorry but I find this so funny

Gary L 02-02-2013 10:57

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I found the horse meat funny too.

tizmeinnit 02-02-2013 11:03

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35530523)
I found the horse meat funny too.


And me but as I said I like horse meat anyway

martyh 02-02-2013 11:04

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I don't really see it being an issue ,as mentioned in the other thread if they where that devout they would not be in prison .I'm afraid this will just encourage a lot of prisoners to all of a sudden be devout Muslims and get loads of compensation

Gary L 02-02-2013 11:07

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35530527)
I don't really see it being an issue ,as mentioned in the other thread if they where that devout they would not be in prison

We got another Muslim thread?

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I'm afraid this will just encourage a lot of prisoners to all of a sudden be devout Muslims and get loads of compensation
We'll probably have a protest or two as well.

can't they just say it's like the nuts thing. "may contain traces of nuts"?

Sirius 02-02-2013 11:11

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35530528)
We got another Muslim thread?



We'll probably have a protest or two as well.

can't they just say it's like the nuts thing. "may contain traces of nuts"?

Bet you they have a holy jihad now against the prisons and anyone else they can think of just in case.

martyh 02-02-2013 11:15

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35530528)
We got another Muslim thread?

Well, some jews as well


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can't they just say it's like the nuts thing. "may contain traces of nuts"?
does me

Sirius 02-02-2013 11:17

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35530533)
Well, some jews as well




does me

And me :)

Zee 02-02-2013 12:05

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Originally Posted by tizmeinnit (Post 35530520)
lmao sorry but I find this so funny

explain what is funny about that?

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35530527)
I don't really see it being an issue ,as mentioned in the other thread if they where that devout they would not be in prison .I'm afraid this will just encourage a lot of prisoners to all of a sudden be devout Muslims and get loads of compensation

So everyone in prison is guilty right? And no one has ever made the wrong decision?

Have you ever heard also of people going to prison for downloading copyright material?

you should think before you type.

martyh 02-02-2013 12:24

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Originally Posted by Zee (Post 35530549)

So everyone in prison is guilty right? And no one has ever made the wrong decision?
.

Pretty much yes ,making the wrong decision doesn't make a person innocent

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Have you ever heard also of people going to prison for downloading copyright material?
A minor crime but still a crime and not sure if anyone has actually gone to jail for downloading music/films in the UK

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you should think before you type.
I did ,long and hard ,i decided that i couldn't give a rats about prisoners food .Some of the prisoners should feel lucky they get fed at all.Quite frankly it's a fuss over nothing and we should be more concerned about what law abiding citizens are eating

tizmeinnit 02-02-2013 12:30

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Originally Posted by Zee (Post 35530549)
explain what is funny about that?

.

Best not sorry :)

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35530564)
Pretty much yes ,making the wrong decision doesn't make a person innocent



A minor crime but still a crime and not sure if anyone has actually gone to jail for downloading music/films in the UK



Its only really car boot sellers of copyrighted material running the risk I believe

Gary L 02-02-2013 12:33

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35530564)
Pretty much yes ,making the wrong decision doesn't make a person innocent

What about those that have been released years later because they're innocent?
they didn't make any decisions. the people who put them in there made the decisions for them.


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A minor crime but still a crime and not sure if anyone has actually gone to jail for downloading music/films in the UK
TV licences and not having one carries a custodial sentence.

Sirius 02-02-2013 12:36

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35530574)
What about those that have been released years later because they're innocent?
they didn't make any decisions. the people who put them in there made the decisions for them.




TV licences and not having one carries a custodial sentence.

Does inciting people to riot have a custodial sentence ;)

Anyway, i hope they find out who has been telling porkies about what meat was in the pies.

Gary L 02-02-2013 12:39

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35530575)
Does inciting people to riot have a custodial sentence ;)

Yes. why. is that what you're doing again? :)

martyh 02-02-2013 12:45

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35530574)


TV licences and not having one carries a custodial sentence.

No it doesn't ,it carries a maximum penalty of £1000

Hugh 02-02-2013 12:53

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And not paying the fine can put you in jail.

martyh 02-02-2013 12:58

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35530584)
And not paying the fine can put you in jail.

exactly,and forcing you to eat pork as an extra special punishment

Sirius 02-02-2013 13:07

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35530577)
Yes. why. is that what you're doing again? :)

Not at all, but i think you should be worried and dont worry they have pies in jail. :LOL:

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Originally Posted by marty (Post 35530582)
No it doesn't ,it carries a maximum penalty of £1000


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You can't go to prison for non-payment of a TV Licence - the maximum penalty is a fine of up to £1,000.

A custodial sentence can, however, be imposed as a result of non-payment of court fines, including fines for failure to have a TV Licence. This is a court matter though.

Hope this helps clarify things.

All the best,

TV Licensing Support
support@tvlicensing.info
so you can end up in jail having meat pies with pork in it :LOL:

martyh 02-02-2013 15:08

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35530709)
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Num, num, num. :D

ERR hold on a mo' ,i can see traces of yumminess in that pie and as a devout grumpyguts i am deeply offended

Sirius 02-02-2013 15:31

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35530709)

That picture is making me :drool:

Stuart 02-02-2013 16:51

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35530527)
I don't really see it being an issue ,as mentioned in the other thread if they where that devout they would not be in prison .I'm afraid this will just encourage a lot of prisoners to all of a sudden be devout Muslims and get loads of compensation


You don't have to be devout, or even religious to have a problem with any pig products..

I have two friends who are both meat eaters, both not even Muslim but still get ill at the thought of eating pork or bacon.

martyh 02-02-2013 17:03

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Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35530816)
You don't have to be devout, or even religious to have a problem with any pig products..

I have two friends who are both meat eaters, both not even Muslim but still get ill at the thought of eating pork or bacon.

You and I both know it will be all about religion don't we ,it will be all about certain religions and lack of respect thereof and then how much compensation they can get

Graham M 02-02-2013 17:12

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Pork is prohibited in the Bible in both Leviticus and Deuteronomy, seems to get ignored ;)

martyh 02-02-2013 17:27

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Originally Posted by Graham M (Post 35530837)
Pork is prohibited in the Bible in both Leviticus and Deuteronomy, seems to get ignored ;)

not by some jews it aint;)

Gary L 02-02-2013 18:11

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I love pork scratchings.

Sirius 02-02-2013 18:20

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35530889)
I love pork scratchings.

I prefer to scratch myself ;)

BenMcr 02-02-2013 18:42

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35530527)
I don't really see it being an issue ,as mentioned in the other thread if they where that devout they would not be in prison .I'm afraid this will just encourage a lot of prisoners to all of a sudden be devout Muslims and get loads of compensation

And how about the fact that the companies supplying the food say it's one thing when it turns out to be something else

That's the real issue here

Anyway I'm pretty sure that some 'devout' people of all religions including Christians have committed crimes for which they've ended up in prison.

martyh 02-02-2013 18:51

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35530907)
And how about the fact that the companies supplying the food say it's one thing when it turns out to be something else

That's the real issue here

Anyway I'm pretty sure that some 'devout' people of all religions including Christians have committed crimes for which they've ended up in prison.

Yes it is ,the last thing i am concerned about is prisoners getting traces of the wrong type of meat ,it will just be an excuse for them to con some money by way of compensation

Taf 02-02-2013 19:35

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How come they can detect small traces of pork in the pies shipped into HM Prisons but not the knives, files, and drugs that usually get smuggled in?

Sirius 02-02-2013 19:43

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Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35530933)
How come they can detect small traces of pork in the pies shipped into HM Prisons but not the knives, files, and drugs that usually get smuggled in?

:clap:

idi banashapan 02-02-2013 19:46

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this is just animalist

Stuart 02-02-2013 19:50

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35530831)
You and I both know it will be all about religion don't we ,it will be all about certain religions and lack of respect thereof and then how much compensation they can get

Regardless of whether the issue is religion or not, the newspapers will report it as being religious.

martyh 02-02-2013 19:57

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Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35530943)
Regardless of whether the issue is religion or not, the newspapers will report it as being religious.

Well as it stands it is all about religion because of the Halal part

Derek 02-02-2013 20:00

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35530907)
And how about the fact that the companies supplying the food say it's one thing when it turns out to be something else

That's the real issue here

So they have just figured out that getting food supplied by the lowest bidder might mean that it isn't 100% prime cuts of dead animal. Or even 90% of the correct dead animal.

Although to be honest it happening to prisoners makes me chuckle. Until I think about the hordes of lawyers getting ready to screw more taxpayers money out the public for their clients.

Sirius 02-02-2013 20:05

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Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35530952)
Until I think about the hordes of lawyers getting ready to screw more taxpayers money out the public for their clients.

Thats the UK for you :)

Osem 02-02-2013 20:14

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Originally Posted by Graham M (Post 35530837)
Pork is prohibited in the Bible in both Leviticus and Deuteronomy, seems to get ignored ;)

But that's only because they didn't have bacon sandwiches in those days. :D

Anyway, maybe the prospect of 'dodgy' food might deter some people from committing crimes. ;)

Taf 02-02-2013 20:18

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I've been having a ponder, and honestly can't ever remember seeing an (obvious) muslim eating a pie or pastie, or pies and pasties on sale in their ethnic shops.

Maybe it's because a lot of pastry is made with (pork) lard as shortening?

BenMcr 02-02-2013 20:51

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Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35530964)
I've been having a ponder, and honestly can't ever remember seeing an (obvious) muslim eating a pie or pastie, or pies and pasties on sale in their ethnic shops.

Maybe it's because a lot of pastry is made with (pork) lard as shortening?

Maybe because the reason the 'ethnic' shops exist is to sell food that isn't widely available in the UK. Same business model as this http://www.britishcornershop.co.uk/


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