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Maggy

26-01-2013 00:58

Gunman dies after public stop Plymouth bookmaker robbery

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-21208674

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A masked gunman has died after being pinned down and restrained by customers during an armed robbery at a bookmakers in Plymouth, police have said.

Oh dear!

martyh

26-01-2013 01:02

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Bet he didn't plan on that

Maggy

26-01-2013 01:08

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I bet he didn't but I'm more concerned about the 'public' involved in the case.Will there be arrests and prosecutions?:erm:

tizmeinnit

26-01-2013 01:11

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35527751)

I bet he didn't but I'm more concerned about the 'public' involved in the case.Will there be arrests and prosecutions?:erm:

Depends on cause of death. If he died of heart failure then no but that will all remain to be seen

Derek

26-01-2013 08:42

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35527751)

I bet he didn't but I'm more concerned about the 'public' involved in the case.Will there be arrests and prosecutions?:erm:

Doubtful. Wearing a gas mask, in his 50's and (assuming here from the usual older robber background) in poor health getting pinned to the ground by a bunch of people would probably bring on a heart attack or some form of positional asphyxia.

Unless the CCTV, which is usually excellent in bookies, shows anything untoward it's just one very poor decision by the robber.

Russ	26-01-2013 08:51

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Ah well, one less criminal to worry about.

denphone

26-01-2013 10:02

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This is about two miles from where we live as we know someone who lives around that area.:shocked:

martyh

26-01-2013 10:06

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Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35527785)

It's probably better it happened in civilian hands than police hands because you can bet your bottom dollar that some poor copper would get hung out to dry if the robber had died when the police pinned him to the ground

Sirius

26-01-2013 10:41

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35527787)

Ah well, one less criminal to worry about.

Indeed, Good riddance i say.

Derek

26-01-2013 11:39

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35527795)

It's still being investigated by the IPCC as a death after Police 'contact' and will be used as a stat by those who go after the Police for there being so many deaths after Police contact and no convictions. :rolleyes:

martyh

26-01-2013 11:45

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Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35527829)

Ridiculous state of affairs

Maggy

26-01-2013 20:59

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Update.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-21213789

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A masked gunman who died after being restrained by customers in an armed robbery at a bookmakers was using what "appears to be an imitation pistol", police have said.

denphone

26-01-2013 21:04

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Indeed and he had previous history as well.

http://www.thisisplymouth.co.uk/Man-...ail/story.html

Derek

26-01-2013 21:21

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Levers was jailed for four years in 2010 for robbery with an imitation firearm at Costcutter, Mutley Plain, Plymouth.

He said: "He was a generous guy who would give you his last 50p if he had it.

Yep cause if he gave away the last 50p he'd just knock over a shop or bookies and get some more money.

Just think. If he had actually served the 4 years he was sentenced to he would still be alive right now.

thenry

26-01-2013 21:22

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thats what you call customer care :D

Sirius

26-01-2013 21:23

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35528064)

Indeed and he had previous history as well.

http://www.thisisplymouth.co.uk/Man-...ail/story.html

The family are saying he had breathing issues and a shadow on his lung. Not that it would be known to the people in the shop he pointed what they would think is a real gun. They would have just reacted to what they would perceive as a threat to there lives. I would think most people would have done the same.

SMG	26-01-2013 21:28

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No sympathy for the guy at all. The people responded to what they believed to be a life or death threat, I think most of us would have acted the same way.

Russ	26-01-2013 21:36

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Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35528075)

So 3 cheers for the current justice system then...

martyh

26-01-2013 22:07

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Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35528075)

Just think. If he had actually served the 4 years he was sentenced to he would still be alive right now.

Is that irony ? if so it's beautiful :)

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Originally Posted by SMG (Post 35528080)

No sympathy for the guy at all. The people responded to what they believed to be a life or death threat, I think most of us would have acted the same way.

Indeed ,i rather think it was the big fat bloke that sat on him till the cops came (there's always a big fat bloke in a bookies ):D

Gary L

26-01-2013 22:10

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Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35528075)

Yep cause if he gave away the last 50p he'd just knock over a shop or bookies and get some more money.

Was he like a modern day Robin Hood or something?

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35528112)

(there's always a big fat bloke in a bookies ):D

Did you lose much betting on Heidi and Spencer? :)

Sirius

26-01-2013 22:14

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Originally Posted by SMG (Post 35528080)

No sympathy for the guy at all. The people responded to what they believed to be a life or death threat, I think most of us would have acted the same way.

Agreed

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35528087)

So 3 cheers for the current justice system then...

Maggy

30-01-2013 00:40

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Another update

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-21244825

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An investigation by the police watchdog into the death of a masked gunman who died attempting to rob a Plymouth betting shop has been concluded.
The Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) has said inquiries should now "be subject to a local investigation" by police.

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A Devon and Cornwall Police spokesman said: "We do not anticipate, at this time, any criminal proceedings being taken against those who detained the deceased.
"These key witnesses acted bravely under difficult circumstances and showed a disregard for their safety."

Good!

jempalmer

30-01-2013 03:26

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What Maggy said :D

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