From Plebs to servants
 

Some tories just don't do themselves any favours :rolleyes:

http://news.sky.com/story/1039333/to...staff-servants

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Well if the tories are planning to bring back the feudal system I hope there's a referrendum first.

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i wanna be a serf

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What a dick.

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I don't see what the fuss is about. They are servants, they're paid to serve :/

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Servers, perhaps, but not servants.

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waiters and waitresses not servants

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Brilliant.

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i don't even think he realizes what he said wrong

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Because he is not perhaps.

serv·ant

/ˈsərvənt/
Noun

• A person who performs duties for others, esp. a person employed in a house on domestic duties or as a personal attendant.
• A person employed in the service of a government.

www.thefreedictionary.com/servant
One who is privately employed to perform domestic services. 2. One who is publicly employed to perform services, as for a government. 3. One who expresses ...

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However, in the hierarchy of restaurant staff, he has definitely insulted them. Unlike household staff who are referred to collectively as servants. Not the same at all.

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But that would be a member of the Civil Service, who I have never heard called a servant (and my wife has been a member of the Civil Service for nearly 30 years...).

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What servants may wear:

Fabric worth no more than two marks for the whole cloth. No gold, silver, embroidery, enamelware or silk. Women not to wear a veil worth more than 12d.

Could be worse though: Carters, ploughmen, drivers of livestock and dairymaids may only wear blanket and russet worth no more than 12d per ell and belts made from rope.

(Sumptuary Laws of 1363:))

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Sorry perhaps not acceptable use of the word today, but if you serve surely you are a servant.
On the subject of Plebs - it meant( in Roman times) a free, land owning citizen. Ergo I would have been a pleb then .
The words that always sticks with me is shambles - use to mean slaughterhouse or even meat market & Nice, meaning stupid or foolish . Usage changes meanings ( for some. I never use "nice" in the accepted sense these days)

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Time to build another mountain out of a molehill, is there really nothing better in the country to worry about.

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It's the 21st century ,we don't have servants anymore we have waiters and waitresses .Calling someone a servant is derogatory stemming from the time,not so long ago, when it was expected for the lower classes to serve the upper classes,and i'm sure the ones in the parliamentary cafes are quite offended at being lumped in with lower class people from the turn of the last century .More importantly it shows the mindset of Christopher Chope that we actually have lower classes of people in the 21st century

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Not as long as the 'evil' Tories are in power,no..... :dozey:

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I think you need to get yourself a dose of reality if you think the UK government is evil. Take a look around the world, you will find some real evil.

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Are you referring to the snow :p:

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On the one hand, Paul's quite right; this isn't evil per se. They're not evil - just thoughtless, selfish, self-obsessed, and...hmmm.

However, Marty is also right. Calling them 'servants' is derogatory, anachronistic...and sums up Tory attitudes to the 'lesser orders' perfectly and why we don't want such people in government. Such attitudes belong to the feudal society Britain originally was. Newsflash, Tory gits: we've come a long way since then!

Or I thought we had, anyway...

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Oh,thanks for the heads up but I agreed with you and was being sarcastic.... :)

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Luckily, no one on the forum indulges in "one size fits all" generalisations, where the actions of one, or a minority, is used to tar everyone else, because that would be over-simplistic, wouldn't it?....;)