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Nothing exciting to see on these yet but i'm interested to see any consistency or differences between everyone.
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It wouldn't be DLM. DLM gives you a red line once a day between 2am and 6am.
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From a couple of months ago now, I dont leave the monitor running 24/7 I dont see the point :) |
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Fair point gents but the other reason I failed to mention was the router stops responding to pings when the DMZ is used.
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Yeah, I wouldn't keep running it at the cost of actually impairing the usability of your own network. But when it affects nothing and can be of benefit I always leave it running.
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Can't figure out how to set up a TBB one, but:
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I keep mine running but now dont check it much.
My graph is pretty much the same as Qas's except I have a thicker blue line which suggests I have a bigger gap between min and average latency. Is a bit odd but its nothing major. My graph is fast path but like driz some may be mistaken for thinking its interleaved due to BTw routing. Also in terms of yellow spikes that seem at regular intervals it could be router related, my billion 7402NX when I was using it had yellow spikes on my FTTC, but now on the asus rt-n16 they gone. http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...18-12-2012.png |
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In any case it varies a lot based on IP, and reconnecting your PPPoE session can change your ping quite a bit. I've seen differences of +/- 5ms even when connected to the same PPPoE gateway. Mine varies between 18ms minimum and 23ms maximum depending on my IP so when my session drops (if ever) I tend to redial frantically till I get one with the lowest latency then keep it there :-P |
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This is a few months old, but it hasn't changed much:
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Tracing route to bbc.co.uk [212.58.241.131] over a maximum of 30 hops: Code:
traceroute to drizzys.ip (x.x.x.x), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets Also - I get the same gap between blue/yellow as Chrysalis, which is a bit weird. Didn't get it on Be using the same router (Billion 7800N). Could be down to EWAN vs ADSL on the router but in reality probably not, more mystery BT network shenanigans! :) |
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these first hops on BT without rdns are very annoying when doing traceroutes from a windows machine as windows waits 5 seconds on those hops. So now I do my FTTC traceroutes on my router as that doesnt pause when no rdns.
I see driz got round it by adding the ips to hosts file :) |
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Yeah you're right, that is funny BT routing.
That said the routing may be the cause of the extra blueness, if different packets come back different ways and therefore take different times. I do tend to find a lot of flapping around on my BT "routing". |
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Feeling guilty having such a nice connection while reading about all the others in my area who are having major issues on Virgin :Sprint:
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Pfft. I gloat a bit in the same situation.
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I am using the hosts trick now also :)
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Only 9 Hops from my connection. There really should be at least 2 less in yours too, strange how they have routed at the start.
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The plusnet graph is looking nice. How are you finding it?
Managed to get a little blue in my graph today :P http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...14-01-2013.png |
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All the plusnet graphs seems to show utilisation at peak time each night
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And Virgin Media graphs don't? :p:
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Getting excited here, actually got a little peak which is out of the ordinary.
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Pretty much as per usual here.
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...24-01-2013.png The spikes at 6pm are me downloading, the long yellow rise at 2pm is me downloading 8hrs of HD catchup TV off on demand via iPlayer. |
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I was joking about the spikes :D your connection looks like it hasn't been used lol
Now I have to go and researcher some new acronyms... |
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With the openreach fibre rollout being so recent and done so quickly I would assume most of the equipment is the same in each area. No idea if BT has mixed equipment due to cheaper deals or better equipment coming out since they started the rollout. |
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Currently have mine in Virgin Media mode :D
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That is some monster furry yellow caterpillar in your graph Craig :shocked:
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Ill put it back to normal when ive finished playing
Looks like you are getting quite a bit of peak congestion there |
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For what it's worth, here's my Sky Fibre graph (from Cheltenham).
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2013/02/21.png The blip is me flatlining it to try and make a VM style dent in the graph, no comparison really :D. This is still stock with a locked Huawei modem and the not-quite-as-bad-as-the-Superhub "Sky Hub", haven't got around to putting my 'proper' hardware behind it. Very impressed. Averaging ~11ms ping to London, awesome for gaming. VM from here was ~20ms at best due to some arse end of nowhere style routing. |
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I've been having a nightmare with my Sky Unlimited line for the past few weeks. Noise levels keep fluctuating from the target of 7db to 1db on the downstream. The upstream level was showing as 102db:dozey: the other day.
Have tried a replacement router and still the same. Also see my gaming profile was removed this morning as my ping is higher. Speaking to Sky is like banging my head off a brick wall.:rolleyes: Im jealous of all you lot on fibre :p: http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...02-02-2013.png |
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On the plus side... not much blue in your graph...:tiptoe:
Harsh graph, a reminder to those who take their shiney fiber for granted that some still have a 3rd world peasent like DSL :( |
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Those on DSL who live out in the sticks, miles from civilisation and an exchange..were the types I was reffering too :P
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Yeah, I do know that but its late, im tired...and he knew what I meant anyway :D |
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Its only recently i have been having issues. Normally the graph is very stable with next to no packet loss but for some reason there has been lots of packet loss recently and i'm at a loss to explain whats causing it. Have sent an email to Sky's executive team to see if they can resolve as i keep getting conflicting information from the call centres.
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Only had a quick look but seems to be no straight forward way of doing the ECI B-FOCus V-2FUb/r Rev B |
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your 56/20 to 86/28 more favourable than my higher estimated 65/20 to 73/24. Although I initially had 110/36. I have decided to report my line as a fault now because I have found a issue affected by the voice which gives me a plausible reason to call in, I will do this after I have been moved over to the new totally unlimited infinity product. I did find out from openreach staff tho the 2 reasons for the current line state I have. When I was on 110/36 my dslam wasnt even configured at all with the adsl power cutback modes, so when I got installed half a dozen adsl customers went offline, this makes me really wish I got my graphed data at the time so I would have seen the lack of power cutback on the adsl frequencies. So 90/36 is my real attainable I am trying to get back. The 2nd sync drop off happened when openreach did a power cutback on my upstream signal, they have now admitted to doing this, they do this in high crosstalk areas and my pair is conflicting with another thats further away from the cabinet so my signal was cutback to thelp the other. However they insist they didnt cutback the downstream signal and it seems that was weakened with the upstream power cutback (as both went down at same time). Incidently my cabinet is still closed for new orders now for over a month so I think they still considering making adjustments even tho they told me the case i closed. The fault I am going to report is a possible HR fault (high resistance) as I am seeing the snrm go down when the phone is in use, when the guy shows up I will ask for a pair swap and then hope this sorts out the crosstalk conflict issue. I hesitated to do this tho as asking for pair swaps can make things worse and my line is very stable. |
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Really worried now, the congestion on my Sky Fibre line has increased massively compared to the last few days, could it be as bad as VM?
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I don't see any congestion at all
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I think Mr Irony was visiting....;)
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Heres a snapshot of mine now that I'm running Openwrt firmware on my WRT610N router, I set it up but after a while I realised it was buggering up my port forwarding (that I'd finally figured out) so turned TBB off.
No surprise but my minimum latency has improved a tad [img]Download Failed (1)[/img] Ignore the red spike it was I rebooting the router. I can only assume Openwrt assumed the pings from TBB were a threat and shut down my port forwarding rules but I'm just guessing. |
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Looks pretty much like mine on my asus rt-n16 running tomatousb
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...11-02-2013.png The peaks between 4 and 7pm are me downloading some stuff. |
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http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...10-02-2013.png I think Mick is correct ---------- Post added at 14:40 ---------- Previous post was at 14:36 ---------- You can just make out the peak time congestion |
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The image in the previous post looks like the start of a new mario level part designed. Possibly fully designed but half eaten by a black hole.
Either way, bumping this thread due to the other one being locked http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...25-03-2013.png |
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Same blip on mine
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Same blip on my VM circuit (and, as a matter of interest) on my Infinity.
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Craig just out of interest you're not using a asus router are you because i have same spikes as you and cant figure out why.
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I'm using an ASUS router and don't get any spikes of that type.
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I can't be 100% sure but it does looks like I have had an increase of 1ms on my minimum/average latency
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Unusual for me but have downloaded 100GB in the last 24 hours. The computer being turned off at 2am when we went to bed is easily noticeable
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30Mb - 28 mins 60Mb - 20 mins 100Mb - 24 mins 120Mb - 22 mins ;) |
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Are we just spoilt being Sky customers or are VM treating their customers bad? Getting an idea of how the upper class look down their nose as others now... |
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Most VM TBB graphs don't look half as bad as they did a year or two ago...
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I have finally worked out what these graphs look like...
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...07-04-2013.png Obviously midget witches with big yellow witch hats walking under algae green water on their way to work! |
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Got a favour to ask guys. According to Sky, my mates connection is fine. I don't know enough about ADSL lines, but I know a crap graph when I see it. Thoughts?
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Looks like heavy usage on his side
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What Craigie said.
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Maybe the more knowledgeable gentry could expand on my suggestion :) Also, what exchange is your mate connected too, it might be one that's suffering from hi demand. |
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That is the highest constant minimum latency I have seen. Some kind of adsl connection at the furthest distance any isp would dare to accept the connection?
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The line would have to be 6000km long to cause that kind of latency.
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So line length is a factor ;) |
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Line length does not require interleaving, interference and noise does.
I've seen more interleaving on a 90m line than a 1900m line. |
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Still a strong positive correlation between line length and quality, there may be exceptions but on the whole...
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I agree with you, Craigie. To put it politely, Qasi's peeled the onion back one layer; putting it otherwise, he's nitpicking again!
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I disagree. There is a strong correlation between line length and attenuation, nothing else.
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FYI, my Sky phone line developed a fault on Friday resulting in an earth fault external to the property, the phone was dead (but noisy), and the broadband was working OK ish, voice chat on xbox live was poor though as my mates kept saying I was breaking up.
Anyway I reported it too Sky about 5:30 on Friday evening, and by lunchtime Saturday it was fixed. It turned out to be a faulty twisted pair coming from a post some 5 meters away, whilst hear the engineer put fresh connectors on all our streets phone lines and the results are below, a thumbs up for Sky tech support, the BT Openreach engineer was fantastic, polite and professionally (took him 2.5 hours to find and fix the fault). Nice result considering, http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...19-05-2013.png |
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Superb Pabscar! Not only a very fast fix but above and beyond what is expected with all the new connectors for the rest of the street. Quality :tu:
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