[UPDATED] Automatic Porn block rejected - opt in chosen instead
 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-20738746

I've highlighted the reason why i am glad this did not get implemented .


Message to gov .....Stop messing around with stuff you don't understand and fix the country

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its unfixable . Capitalism will fail its just a matter of when imo

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:clap:

Fantastic news.... wasn't some Mother's Union or whatever behind this idea anyway? It's mainly women's groups anyway,after all god forbid men have some fun away from wives and gf's. ;)

Ok,I'll stop being facetious,however this is only to be commended. You'd think considering the state of the economy there'd be more important matters to attend to.... :rolleyes:

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On the 21st

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God. I hate women.
always gotta make it hard for us men :)

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If these mothers or even parents in general are that concerned about their little darlings having access to porn then maybe they should monitor their own kids better instead of trying to absolve their responsibility onto ISP's or the state


Don't know whether to laugh at that or report it :D

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indeed.... unfortunately all too often people in Britain want the state to sort their problems rather than take personal responsibility..... and then complain about the nanny state and high taxes. :rolleyes:

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This.

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Oh how naive of us to think the Government had a spine when the Daily Mail are involved:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...st_read_module

Now this is confusing. It's it opt-in or opt-out. The Daily Mail's article doesn't seem to understand the difference. Parents can choose to have controls which then have to opt-out of? That's opt-in! They seem to be saying you can opt-in to controls which will then be 'automatically' on unless you opt-out.

I for one welcome such a ban. The amount of sexulisation that is easily accessible by children is sick. Rihanna almost naked? Yup: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...-Barbados.html. Kate Moss? Yup: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...-St-Barts.html. Some naked guy? They've got you covered: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...stick-bra.html. Heidi Klum topless? YUP! :http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...al-island.html.

That's literally today's sidebar. Sites like that should certainly be blocked automatically.

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kids of a certain age will find it anyway and we have had opt in opt options all along any parent has been able to install or add filters for years. None work 100% and neither will el govs filters. People will just hidemyass to see some ass lol

also children are only interested one they are going through pubity they get access to sex ed at achool which is something I didnt get.

I lost my cherry very late but my partner who I lost it too didnt know. Guess why?? cuz I had looked a porn mags and read the stories so I had gained certain skills without practice ;-)

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Practice makes perfect. as my mum always used to say.

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but lets say I was a post graduate with no real experience in the workplace lmao

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so you want to ban kids from sunny beaches then? a bit of flesh in the news isnt going to blocked by this. Youporn and redtube and others will be not a tittie flash from some celeb or page 3

Also did you not see the news report this week on sexting? the kids are all getting upto it.

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It's one thing overriding filters and blocks put on either by software on the computer or at the router level. It's quite another doing the same to filters and blocks placed on the network at the ISP level. It's still possible, and I dare say some kids will be able to do it. You might find some of the proxy and VPN sites also get blocked.

The thing is, when you and I were young, we had to make do with whatever we, or one of our mates got get hold of through the local newsagents. This stuff was relatively tame and we still had the problem of what to do if we were caught by the newsagent (even assuming we could reach the top shelf).

If we were lucky, we could swipe one or two of our dad's more hardcore magazines (assuming he had any) but we still had the risk of getting caught.

Now, kids have free (both as in unmonitored and as in cost) access to hardcore porn, some of which is illegal, and most of which is considerably harder than the stuff you or I had access to.

You can argue all you want, but the fact remains that no one can predict the effect allowing kids free access to all that porn is going to have on society, and I think it will have a massive effect on society, and one I don't necessarily think will be good.

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I spose porn gives el gov something else to blame for the crumbling society along with video games instead of apportioning the blame on themselves and our culture

Look at the news for example. Which is going to have the biggest effect on a young male. Rhianna showing sidebreast or the news about no matter what he does he will struggle to get a job. Or the news about how some terrorist blew up a truck full of soldiers

IMO if the human race did not enjoy sex it would have become extinct millenia ago afterall we ponder the meaning of life and if we are only born to die why would we inflict that on another? why would we bring life into the earth only for them to die? its because we enjoy sex thats why

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You do realise the kind of stuff I am talking about is a little more explicit than Rihanna showing boob?
Enjoyment of sex has little or nothing to do with it. You can enjoy sex whether you like porn or not. For instance, a friend of mine used to love porn. He used to work as an editor/webdesigner on a porn website. One of his duties was to vet the incoming photos for compliance with the law.

He would not say what was on the photos other than to say it was illegal and that he used to end up vomiting after seeing some of the photos. He also eventually gave up his job and is now quite vehemently anti-porn. As I am sure his girlfriend would tell you, he still apparently likes sex.

The kind of stuff that kids can get access to isn't just the relatively tame stuff we had access to, or even just pictures/videos of sexual intercourse. It includes such things as Rape (simulated or not), bestiality, child abuse and various other perversions.

As I said, no one knows what the effect on society is if the kids watch enough videos that cover those kinds of subjects while they are growing up. They may be unaffected. They may also grow up thinking it's perfectly normal for a man to have sex with young kids, or to rape a woman. We don't know.

One thing I have said repeatedly on this forum, and people repeatedly seem to miss or ignore is that kids learn right from wrong from what they are exposed to, as well as from their parents and friends (who may or may not have the right idea of right and wrong). This is why I have concerns about free access to porn, and why I have concerns about violent games. I enjoy both, but if a given child is exposed to one (or both) and then not taught by his or her parents that it is not OK to kill or rape someone, what are they going to learn?

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Better newspapers (http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/techno...cle3636952.ece) have come up with a better article. It will be opt-in for parents. Not automatic. I think that's a good thing all in all.

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I agree with that. I don't advocate giving children access to lots of violence or porn. Some will deal with it better than others but there is no need for it. The game issue from the other thread is that the guy in question was 20, not 10. (Also Call of Duty isn't really that violent IMO. It's animated little figures falling over and going 'ugh').

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there is nothing more frightening than the news

I personally developed my own ideas on morality on my own. If I followed what my parents did I would have a uncontrollable temper and would have beaten my kids so I do not agree

also how that report reads it is just software therefore useless

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Aren't parents going to have a problem when they have to get the block lifted to access some quite innocent content .I had to get a VM block lifted because it meant my son couldn't access facebook

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You're missing the point. The block isn't there to filter out porn. It's there to make it look like the government did something against it.

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I do not miss the point see my point in post 17. This government are passing the buck on pretty much everything.

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I don't want them to ,i want the government to fix the deficit ,fix the housing crisis ,get the cost of living down ,get us out of the EU ,fix the pot holes in the roads and then make us all a cup of tea .Whether or not kids have access to porn is a matter for parents

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Yes, that was kind of the point I was trying to get across. They really should concern themselves with more important stuff.

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Soz...

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I think they should block it, then when i find some i can sue there useless asses for incompetence.