Virgin Media investigates 10Gbps DOCSIS 3.1 connections
 

http://recombu.com/digital/news/virg...ns_M11115.html

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Ben want to place a bet as to how long it takes for this to turn into a VM or shub bashing thread ;)

However it's good to see that VM are looking to move to Docsis 3.1,

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By this do they mean a 10Gbps pipe for the entire country? Sounds about right.

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Longer than I expected lol

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I'll bite! VM Can't even give me a stable 10mbit connection, let alone 100x the bandwidth :)

The article only suggests that are trying docsis 3.1 which would give those maximum options, not that VM actually will push out such a product within the next few years.

Lots of could's in that article. They could start trials in 2014, then again they could not.

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what will traffic managment be like?

how come i cant get 10gbps wireless? im going to sky

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Customers hardware is likely to become a bottleneck at those speeds but even so, hard disks would be full after an hours use :)

Once the newer HD tv standard starts getting pushed out and the streaming services offer tv and films in that resolution, more bandwidth will be handy.

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I had a bet with someone on pm you would be one of the first, thanks :tu:

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Oh it was an obvious bait, hence my taking the bite. Knowing I had posted on the forum in the last 30 minutes or so increased the chances somewhat too. That bet was like taking candy from a baby!

Glad I could be of service :handshake

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:)

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understanding docsis 3.1 would be a good start before bashing the usual Qtx.

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I knew enough to realise that 10Gbps is the standard speed of docsis 3.1 and not that VM will be offering it to their customers for a few years, if at all. Interesting from a techy point of view but we wouldn't want the less technical to be fooled into thinking VM will actually offer that. ASA may be able to slap VM for their misleading ads but they can't slap a VM employee who starts a thread, thats my job! :)

Re: Virgin Media investigates 10Gbps DOCSIS 3.1 connections
 

wrong.

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Explain why I am wrong then. Otherwise its just a random word you are throwing out.

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random word :Yes:

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This'll come in handy for UHDTV streaming which takes about 500Mbps per channel...

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Thought their was no substance to what you said :)

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Isnt that what I said? :p: Although I thought it was only double the current HD standard.

Re: Virgin Media investigates 10Gbps DOCSIS 3.1 connections
 

Is it, and its our job to show up users with a chip on there shoulder ;)

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People who just think negatively of anything posted about a company that they are unable to prove wrong should be slapped down, try posting facts rather than guesswork.

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I am so glad you came along to complete the picture Peter_.

First let me say that I have discussed in this thread the news article and what the extra speed could be used for, beside mentioning that VM will not be giving this to customers any time soon. What is there in the article to prove wrong?

Just like Theenry you have come here to attack me personally. There are no counter arguments to what I say, as in this case what I have said is correct and accurate.

When one joins this forum they quickly notice that any negative post about VM is argued against by Carl, Peter_, Ben and to a lesser extent thenry for no real reason, until you notice that one is infatuated with the company, another was posting as an employee of VM although no longer, one is currently a VM employee and posts here in a kind of PR role almost as if it is his job.

With that in mind one will look at a post such as this started by Ben as a VM PR post. These sort of posts mostly come from Ben so maybe he should have something in his signature to say he is a VM PR guy, so that no one can be mislead and others will not feel like pointing out or countering something they feel is misleading.

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Ben does not work for VM PR and i don't ether :)

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The point is that fibre to the house will not be required for a long time to come

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Other Fibre providers don't use the same technology if im not mistaken. So Fibre to the house will be beneficial to every other isp except VM who could offer faster speeds with their current coax from the cabinet, so no extra outlay.

Unless you add to the equation upgrading the nodes that all the VM customers connect to past the cabinet which currently gives bottlenecks and causes misery for many users.

As I said, its interesting from a techy point of view but the article pointing out that VM customers could get that speed in a few years time does not mean VM will actually offer it.[COLOR="Silver"]

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Ok back on topic, i do wonder if this would get rid of the youtube buffering :)

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God i hope so, i find YouTube unusable at the moment

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:D:D:D

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Strange - and do not claim for one second to understand this. On my PC(on 10 meg {is that right}) You tube etc is fine but on Tivo which I understand is also 10 is it lousy. In fact

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So I keep hearing, but with these ultra fast speeds, can vm realistically, beyond trials, deliver these kind of speeds out to everyone?

Not being technically minded, I have no idea of the difficulties in providing such a fast service, but I would have thought on just one issue, signal noise, that would be a major impairment in itself to providing such a service. Fibre would have no such issues though, or at least not the same ones.

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Short answer is yes. DOCSIS 3.1 (and every other version) is designed to work on real-world networks with their noise and all the other undesirables. As technology gets better they can squeeze more out of the same cable.

Re: Virgin Media investigates 10Gbps DOCSIS 3.1 connections
 

as they have done with this docsis 3.1 advancement. real bug fix it seems. bugs? ah still a massive fix nonetheless.

Re: Virgin Media investigates 10Gbps DOCSIS 3.1 connections
 

Bug fix????

Not sure where you get that from....

Cable-Tec Expo

Re: Virgin Media investigates 10Gbps DOCSIS 3.1 connections
 

wrong choice of words I know :o:

Re: Virgin Media investigates 10Gbps DOCSIS 3.1 connections
 

try this:
http://www.lightreading.com/document...&site=lr_cable

im sure it'll make sense to Sirius!

Re: Virgin Media investigates 10Gbps DOCSIS 3.1 connections
 

At first post's link it says commercial will be out 2015 (the 3.1)
Until that time... :scratch: lets wait for now the current updates :cool:

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No.

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I'm curious why they called it DOCSIS 3.1. As far as the RF layer is concerned, 3.1 is a much bigger change from 3.0 than 3.0 was from 2.0. Hell, the changes from 3.0 to 3.1 are bigger than from 1.0 to 3.0.

Re: Virgin Media investigates 10Gbps DOCSIS 3.1 connections
 

I have been doing international speed tests comparing Virgin Media 100meg connection VS BT 8 meg connection. Virgin media is not much faster than BT when it comes to international speeds, in fact I some times question the point of having a 100meg broadband connection. I would rather Virgin Media at this time spend its millions on its back bone,as there is no point at this time offering speeds faster than 40 meg.

Re: Virgin Media investigates 10Gbps DOCSIS 3.1 connections
 

could you please elaborate? what youve said doesnt make much sense. it isnt as black and white as youve put it.

Re: Virgin Media investigates 10Gbps DOCSIS 3.1 connections
 

I understand exactly what he is saying, i find it hard that you don't???

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Virgins international peering is sh...erm naff or congested is the general jist I got from that post.

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Quite :)

That wasn't too hard to work out was it ?

Re: Virgin Media investigates 10Gbps DOCSIS 3.1 connections
 

Yes but he was complaining about VM not putting enough money into their backbone.

VM's backbone is fine. Other networks are not VM's backbone.

Re: Virgin Media investigates 10Gbps DOCSIS 3.1 connections
 

Backbone is probably the one part of virgins network that is OK but it was obvious by his post that he actually meant to show virgins routing or peering/transit links to other countries is not good by his own tests. Something we were already aware of though.