Multiroom streaming ... who's ready?
 

With the arrival soon of multiroom streaming who is ready for it i mean boxes connected ready.Our main box is connected ready just need to get two more ethernet cables for the other two.

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I've got the network cabling in place, although I've still to terminate one end. I've still only got one tivo though. :D

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My Tivos were connected shortly after the 15.2 upgrade enabled multiroom streaming to be activated, which was about a year ago... it's been a long wait!

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I have a feeling the list of channels on TV Anywhere is exactly the same list as the one of channels with MRS enabled. They surely wouldn't negotiate with the provider just for one or the other.

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I have 3 TiVos, I know that I will have to connect all 3 via home plugs and so on, but If all my boxes can "see" each other already, (in settings) why cant they just stream between each other using the connection from the cable?

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Because the boxes have a 10Mbit connection, which means the upload will be at best 1Mbit - not fast enough for streaming

Whereas connected via the Ethernet they have a 100Mbit connection to stream between them

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Have all 3 connected via my 1 gig internal lan :)

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Thanks for the info!

Mine are both connected also into a patch panel :)

Do you need two TiVos will it work with other VM boxes?

Nope don't need 2 tivos when the iPad app gets released finally you can stream from the TiVo box to the iPad app.

Also not sure but virgin anywhere might link up to it.

Only need 2 tivos to stream from 1 box to another... Doesn't stream to other VM boxes like V box or V+.

Possibility though in future if they update firmware on VHD to TiVo software, which they announced but has gone dead on news.

Then you will be able to stream to VHD but not presently

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Has that been confirmed ?

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No it hasn't, because you can't.

TiVo to app streaming requires extra hardware which VM aren't doing yet

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I've had my two networked for about a year now and managed to have a go at streaming when they enabled Channel 5 (and a Disney channel I think) for a few hours several weeks ago.

It is going to be ace but I didn't get a chance to stream from both boxes at the same time as they disabled streaming again by the time I got home. However I'm keen to see whether my home plug setup will prevent this by being only half duplex or whether my adaptors are full duplex. I was also keen to see if I could watch a recording on one box and also stream a recoding from the same box to a 2nd box.

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Is the yet; internally confirmed to be in the works or speculation?

http://www.tivo.com/products/tivo-stream/index.html

That's the device.

Not available on VM though.

I got mixed up earlier apologies.

I was thinking of streaming live tv. Which I thought was a feature of the app?
Rather than referring to streaming recordings.

Apologies my mistake.

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I see that some of you have already got your Tivo boxes linked ready for multi-room streaming. Would someone like to explain exactly how this is done?

I thought that it would just involve using a couple of Powerline adaptors, but in looking at the website http://www.tivo.com/products/tivo-stream/index.html which RB2004 mentioned in regard to streaminig to remote devices, there is mention of MoCA and clicking on the link to 'What is MoCA?' it states

Note: Wi-Fi and Powerline (also called HomePlug® ) networking are not sufficient for streaming shows reliably. MoCA, on the other hand, provides 170 Mbit/s Net TCP throughput!

So is MoCA required to set up a reliable connection between 2 Tivo boxes?

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Not even Blu Ray uses anywhere near that bandwidth. Even the HD channels on VM (broadcasting in MPEG 2) are around the 15 to 17Mb mark. Decent Homeplugs (say, 200Mb at least but you may get away with 85Mb) should be fine.

As for help on setting it up, I wrote this network help on my blog a while ago (but it probably needs updating in truth):
http://virgintivo.blogspot.co.uk/p/n...your-tivo.html

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The current VM TiVo boxes don't support MoCA natively.

Even in the US it's only certain versions of the TiVo boxes that do

And I'm not sure VM would be particularly happy if you started introducing MoCA adapters into their cable network - as they've not been tested for UK cable

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Streaming of Live TV from certain channels is - but that feed comes from VM, not from the TiVo box

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Am ready, have been for around a year... so glad am not paying the extra £11.50 per month for the extra box that's pretty much sat gathering dust upstairs while we wait on VM being 'ready'!

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How are you not paying the 11.50, I can see why you'd have the V+ free but the TiVo?

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Well, you could just record on your second box in the meantime;):confused:

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We got our 2nd TiVo installed before the per box fee came in to force, and the fee was £3 per account. So we pay £3.00 combined on our bill for the 2 boxes.

And we managed to negotiate when renewing our contract to remove the extra set top box fee as part of our loyalty discount for an additional TiVo, so we are not paying the £6.50 per month for that TiVo as we also have a V+ box which we pay the multiroom for.


Would prefer not to use it, would mean sitting in the upstairs bedroom watching it on a smaller TV with no surround sound etc.. would prefer to use it to utilize 6 tuners and play the content downstairs. It was mainly got so we could stream to/from it, as SWMBO could then go upstairs to watch what she wants when I have the footy/PS3 etc on downstairs ;)

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Thanks for the reply.

So if MoCA can't be used for multi-room streaming, what exactly do I need to do to get set for it?

I presume that when they are ready to introduce it that VM will tell people what needs to be done, but if there is anything that I can do beforehand to set it up, I would be pleased to find out.

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All you need to do is connect the boxes via Ethernet to your router

Or you can follow this www.virginmedia.com/powerline if you don't want to run Ethernet cable around your house

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We got the same deal. I also don't pay for a 2nd box as when I got TiVO the deal was that I got to have 2nd box for free. At the time of the install this was a V+ but even when I got my 2nd TiVO the "2nd box free" deal discount remained in place.

This has made waiting for multi room streaming a little less tiresome :-)

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Got my second TiVo and home network set up months ago, thinking that MRS was 'coming soon'.

:erm:

Anyone seen screenshots of the Fall Update for the TiVo Premiere? One of the many improvements is the ability to name each TiVo on the network, so when VM push out that update (soon I hope), I could name my front room TiVo 'Front Room TiVo' instead of the service number which doesn't mean a lot in the My Shows list.

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Yes; talked about already on one of the other Tivo threads.

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Some channels seem to be streaming now but a lot aren't. 'Clinton' on PBS streamed OK and at least one other. I'll check for more later.

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Home and Really seem to work, but got fed up with checking as most dont ATM.

I think one of the shows that I tried, picked up from where I'd stoped watching on the other Tivo, which is great.

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Yes, some Discovery (including HD) and Nat Geo channel programs seem to stream here!

Can also confirm that it remembers where you were on one box, and can resume from the same point on the other box.

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Information site for MRS now live at www.virginmedia.com/mrs

Includes list of channels that will work with MRS

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Can you link to this as I don't see it at all.

AH - I found it - hidden away in the tiny small print LOL.

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Wow just saw the channel list :( Really disappointed... Where are the standard channels? :(

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No Entertainment channels and no Sky...

Not worth the cable.

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I really hope they get the FTA channels on that list shortly, what a let-down!

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Indeed almost useless to me at the moment :(

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I'm sure VM are working on getting more channels for it, however it'll be down to the content providers as to whether they allow it or not.

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Must have been a freakin' nightmare to get the current channels available... Hopefully they'll continue to improve the selection over time!

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Multi room streaming is not the streaming performed by tv anywhere. Two seperate forms of streaming. I dont think MRS is as imminent as TV anywhere.

MRS is streaming of recorded shows from one of your TiVo boxes to another of them.

Regards

John

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How frustrating, that channel list makes it pretty much useless!

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Who wants to tell him? LOL

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Does that mean you won't be able to watch all of your recordings on another box? Only certain channels?

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Which has also launched today I believe?

https://my.virginmedia.com/discover/...ing/intro.html

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Agreed first to the post with the product but what an uninspiring list.

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What a spectacular disappointment on the channel choice, it doesn't even have the channels that were there during the brief trial (Channel 5 etc). Quite why VM thought anyone would be interested in recording a shopping channel and playing it back via a second Tivo but have failed to negotiate the rights for any of the mainstream channels I don't know.

I was really looking forward to this due to the convenience of it, but this has left me very underwhelmed.

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You need some new specs, mate ;) All three of them (5, 5* and 5USA) are available on the website and in the app. The other channels are also there; that I can see.

Though I do agree that the app could do with some more channels.

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More channels will be added over time.

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I figured that would be the case, Stephen.

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Any timespan on that?.

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Oh don't you start :p::D

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Questions need answers and there's no harm in asking as they always say.:)

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Well for a fanboy thats not a surprise.;)

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Its been a long day:bigcry:. First screen of myshows all had padlocks so didnt think to check past that Doh!

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What an earth are you on about ? Fanboy you really should read your own posts ;) with that channel list I wouldn't be able to stream two thirds of my planner.

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It's a terrible list of channels, but I don't blame VM. When are OFCOM going to do something usefull and tell these content providers to stop getting in the way of new features that viewers want.

VM have paid for the content to be recorded on a Tivo. Why are content providers ALLOWED to prevent that same paid for content, being viewed on the same type of box in a different room in the house? It beggars all logical belief, yet the content providers get away with imposing totally illogical restrictions on a simple function that benefits viewers who have paid for the content, not illegally downloaded it. And the content providers wonder why people illegally download things; they should look to their own restrictive practices for some of the reasons.

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Steady on dear chap as it was meant in jest.:)

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So how many channels on that list would you stream if you had a second Tivo?

It would be helpfull to know when more channels are likely to be added, because with the current channel list, it's of limited value to me.

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If you look at a lot of my posts lately they have been quite critical of Virgin.

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Not me that needs the new specs mate ;), we're talking about Multi Room Streaming (MRS) not TV Anywhere. There's no app and no website required for MRS just a minimum of two Tivo boxes.

That's why I find it spectacularly disappointing, I could watch the Live feed from any web connection on an authorised computer, but if I record it and want to watch it back from within the same network (in my house) I can't. TV Anywhere, yup it looks good, MRS, good concept, good technically but poor content.

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I'm getting quite confused here (not difficult I know :erm:). This thread is about multi-room streaming though a few people have mentioned the Virgin TV Anywhere which was also just launched.

As far as I can see TV Anywhere has a restricted list of channels that can be viewed on an Apple device but MRS allows you to stream anything that you have on one Tivo box to another Tivo box with no restriction by channel.

Have I got that wrong and if so can someone point me to the list of MRS restrictions as I can only see one on the TV Anywhere page.

Cheers :confused:

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No, your not confused or wrong - Carlwaring was the one who got confused and started talking about TVanywhere and the App ;)

The only mistake you have made is assuming that you will be able to stream *anything* that you have recorede box to box, the actauly channels where the Box to Box streaming will work are listed here.

http://my.virginmedia.com/discover/t...s.snippet.html

HTH :)

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Thanks for that, I hadn't seen that 'View Full Channel List' tucked away at the bottom of the page.

How disappointing, I won't be bothering to set up MRS until the list improves dramatically!

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That, apparently, makes two of us :o: :dunce: :p:

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Whats the real the benefits of streaming? I only ask this as i already have a box in every room and dont see what all the fuss is about.

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Streaming of your own shows from your own Tivo I can understand, and want. But I wouldn't necessarily want to watch anything live ;)

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'If' all channels' content was available to stream, then with two Tivos, you would have effectively 6 recordable tuners and a potential of 2TB recording capacity.

The other advantage is that you could start a film in the lounge, and if it gets late, pick it up from where you left off, when you got to bed.

That 'If' turned out to be a bit 'iffy' :)

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But that is not what MRS is about anyway, so irrelevant.

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Unless you record all your programmes on every box, then you have to go to the box you recorded it on to watch it, with Multi room streaming, you simply select the box and pick the programmes from the list just as if you were in the same room as it.

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OK, thx for the replies.

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I can't quite understand why VM need to get permissions from individual channels to implement this.

Is it not effectively the equivalent of olden days taping something and then playing it back on another VCR in a different room?:confused:

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Which I believe was illegal :p:

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You could be correct. I thought it was different premises.

All those years of breaking the law and not giving a hoot. ;)

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Was really excited when I heard this was live, but the channel list is a huge disappointment. I didn't think it was working at first so many padlocks everywhere. It's exactly one year since I got the boxes talking to each other and I've patiently waited while VM sort out the rights and the networking issues. The end result is the have a web page telling me to use home plugs like I had setup a year ago and rights for the minority channels. Odd that they've only got some of the BBC channels too? It works well for the channels where the rights are sorted, let's hope they get more channels sorted soon as this is a fantastic feature if they get it fully working.

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Haha ah yes it was bliss :p: Damn technological improvements :p:

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The content providers are complete idiots. They can hardly have missed the trend for content anywhere of multiple devices. So what do they do? Put obstacles in the way of people who are prepaired to pay. Meanwhile, people who don't pay, download shows to a NAS to stream content to any device and watch it anywhere they choose. Now that is illegal, but the content providers blinded thinking is effectively causing more and more people to do it. Crazy.

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Odd. I have 2 TiVos, which can 'see' each other via the various network/MRS screens, but can't 'see' each other via the My Shows screens. I swear I had this working on Saturday and nothing has changed within my network since then. Both TiVos are connected via homeplugs. I have no trouble seeing both TiVo from the TV Anywhere site on my laptop.

Any ideas?

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Go into "Change Network Settings" and ask the TiVo to request it's IP address again from a DHCP server (first option in the settings).

I had this happen after the latest software update. Must have been something to do with a restart caused by that update.

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Cheers, but I tried that earlier. Just tried it again from both TiVos, no joy.

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Do your boxes successfully connect to your router? I'm guessing you would have said if they didn't

I know when I first got my 2nd box I had to connect my older box to the VM network so that it knew that I now had a 2nd box on my account but I assume you've had your 2nd box for a while (at least long enough for both to have connected to the VM network). You could try forcing a connection to the VM network though.

If that doesn't work you could try a reset of the UI.

If that doesn't work reset both boxes.

If that doesn't work then make sure you only record programmes on channels that haven't allowed streaming. That way you won't be missing out on anything ;-)

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Ah-ha! For some reason, doing another download of the EPG on both TiVos fixed it....gawd knows why. :confused:

Many thanks for your help Mike. :) .....just wish VM would add some more popular channels.

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Glad you got it sorted. While the channel list isn't great I have recordings from at least one of them that I'd like to stream so I have more than I had yesterday which is an improvement in my books....and I've not had to pay any extra for it :-)

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Well after my disapointment over the content that is available, I've sent the following to BBC, ITV, Channel 4 and Channel 5. I'll await their response, might be worth others doing likewise.

Yesterday Virgin Media launched a new service (Multi Room Streaming) which allows the programmes that have been recorded on one set-top box to be watched within the same house via another set-top box on my home network.

At present none of the programmes broadcast by yourselves that I have recorded are permitted to be viewed, these restrictions are imposed on Virgin Media by the content providers (yourselves) can you let me know whether you have any intention to allow this in the near future?

Calum

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Well done Calum! I cannot believe these main channels are missing. They don't even appear in the guide on my iPad.:confused:

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http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...1543098#M66021

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Good news that MRS is up and running but I'm also disappointed by the channel choice. Things can only get better I guess.

I must admit their web page design leaves a lot to be desired. It is almost as if they are embarrassed by the current channel choice by tucking it away in small text at the bottom. I also noticed in the 'How to use it' tab the screen shots show the user streaming CSI recorded on Sky Living which is not on the list. Schoolboy Error!

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Your settings are wrong. Change the guide so it is showing all All Channels rather than Streaming Channels.

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Nope, no settings to get wrong. We're discussing Multi Room Streaming on this thread (Tivo to Tivo on the same home network) not the TV Anywhere App/website. Virgin Media launched two new services yesterday.

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Fixerman is talking about the app though

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Wrong thread then; this is about MRS. There does seem to be some confusion about the two on several threads though :)

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That's good to know :) Hopefully they'll be able to fit some more channels in before the Christmas freeze...

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Would the Christmas freeze really affect adding new channels to MRS? I'd be a little surprised if it did, but don't know for sure.

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I'd expect so. Exceptions can be made, but generally only for time-critical things, such as PPV events, and red button applications related to specific programmes. Even minor changes can go wrong, and you don't want it happening when few support staff are about and viewing figures are high.

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Just wondering if anyone has managed to change the name of their Tivos online and seen this name reflect on their Tivos for multi room streaming.

anyone?

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Ignore that!!! Mine has just updated as i typed it.

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OK....this is daft. After every time I stream something, the 'other TiVo' disappears from the My Shows screen, but the other Tivo is still on the network.

Is it just me that has this issue? The appearance of the other TiVo in the My Shows screens is far too unpredictable. For instance, My front room Tivo showed the presence of my 'lounge' TiVo in My Shows. I went to the lounge and started a (test) recording of Golf from EuroSport HD. Went back to the front-room TiVo and my 'lounge' TiVo had disappeared from the My Shows list. :confused:

Hmmmm.....looks like I'm not the only one who has had this issue, even legacy TiVo owners have encountered it:
http://forums.tivo.com/pe/action/for...ostID=10446114
http://forums.tivo.com/pe/action/for...ageId=10432560

Help! Totally confused!
 

All I want to do is go to my den and watch, on my den Tivo a recording which is on the living room Tivo. My three tivos are connected to my home network by new home plugs and all appear on screen. I have taken a photo which shows the screen on my den tivo which tells me that to watch recordings from another tivo go to the end of my shows but I cannot figure out how to attach it to this post. Just to confuse things even more on the Multiroom streaming screen it says "Video Sharing disabled".

When I go to the end of my shows there are no networked tivos visible.

Please help!

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Then you need to get that reported as a fault

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Thanks Ben, but I haven't got the stamina for a protracted pidgin english conversation with a person who has no idea what I'm talking about. I was hoping to find the answer on the forums.:confused:

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On each TiVo, go to Home->Help&Settings->System Info->Multi-Room Streaming. Highlight the entry with the '*' by it. Check that the Network Address shown is valid for your network (usually a 192.168.x.x or 10.x.x.x address but will depend on your router settings), and it says "Multi-Room: Can Stream Content". Also try rebooting all three boxes.

Ignore the "Video sharing Disabled". I don't know why it says that but it doesn't stop it working.

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Thanks spiderplant!:)

I have made some progress. I can now see the living room Tivo and play unrestricted content from it on the Tivo in my den but for some reason I cannot do the reverse and watch the den Tivo in the Living room.

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First reply from ITV, discussing but no date.

Dear Sir/Madam

Further to your enquiry, our Rights team has confirmed that they are in contact with Virgin regarding the issue you recently raised. I’m afraid that they’re unable to give a timescale of when the discussions may conclude, however. Please note that due to Rights issues it is likely that some programmes may have to carry restrictions.

I’m sorry that I’m unable to provide further information at this stage but would like to thank you, once again, for taking the trouble to contact ITV.

Kind regards

Derek

ITV Viewer Services

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Well after having a tinker with multiroom streaming today its pretty good just a shame channel wise its a bit thin on the ground but im sure it will improve.

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i will be getting my 2nd tivo this week. i dont want to connect them together by a long Ethernet between rooms. so how can i use multiroom streaming.any advice or recommendations appreciated