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ferretuk 23-10-2012 08:06

120Mb live areas - Please add to this thread as your area comes online
 
Please add your area details to this thread when the 120Mb service is live.

Posts for "Mine isn't yet,when's it coming", "I've been upgraded and only get XXX Mb", "VM are a bunch of crooks and should have done me first" or any post referring to the deficiences of the SH are off topic in this thread.

Let's keep this as a clear record of the rollout, without comment.

SO31 has already been mentioned.
Today SG5 (Hitchin) went live - 6DS 2US

Kymmy 23-10-2012 08:29

Re: 120Mb live areas - Please add to this thread as your area comes online
 
Flitwick UBR has just gone live at 7:40BST this morning

Config page shows
Quote:

Network Access Allowed
Maximum Number of CPEs 1
Baseline Privacy Enabled
DOCSIS Mode EU DOCSIS 3.0
Config File
Primary Downstream Service Flow SFID 31158
Max Traffic Rate 133000000 bps
Max Traffic Burst 10000 bytes
Min Traffic Rate 0 bps
Primary Upstream Service Flow SFID 28653
Max Traffic Rate 12000000 bps
Max Traffic Burst 16320 bytes
Min Traffic Rate 0 bps
Max Concatenated Burst 16320 bps
Scheduling Type BestEffort
Network status hasn't changed but I was already on 8DS and 2US
Quote:

Modem Initialisation Stage Status
Downstream Acquisition Locked
Primary Frequency 283000000 Hz
DHCP Complete
TFTP Complete
Time Of Day 08:27:27
Security Enabled
Counters T1,T2,T3,T4,Sync,Resets 0, 0, 1, 0, 0, 0
Internet Connection IP Address Status
WAN IP Address 86.2.216.88
Lease Time Remaining 6 days 23:14:15
Expiry Tue 30 Oct 06:41
Current Network Time Tue 23 Oct 08:27
Downstream Channels Lock Status Channel ID Frequency Modulation Rx Power SNR Pre RS Errors Post RS Errors
Locked 43 283000000 Hz QAM256 7.3 dBmV 43.9 dB 104 0
Locked 41 267000000 Hz QAM256 8.0 dBmV 43.9 dB 25 0
Locked 42 275000000 Hz QAM256 7.7 dBmV 43.9 dB 51 0
Locked 44 291000000 Hz QAM256 7.0 dBmV 43.8 dB 70 0
Locked 45 299000000 Hz QAM256 8.2 dBmV 43.9 dB 14 0
Locked 46 307000000 Hz QAM256 7.7 dBmV 43.3 dB 15 0
Locked 47 315000000 Hz QAM256 7.3 dBmV 43.2 dB 26 0
Locked 48 323000000 Hz QAM256 6.9 dBmV 42.6 dB 44 0
Upstream Channels Lock Status Channel ID Frequency Modulation Tx Power Mode Channel Bandwidth Symbol Rate
Locked 3 27400000 Hz ATDMA 38.8 dBmV 16QAM 6400000 20480 Kbits/sec
Locked 2 35800000 Hz ATDMA 39.3 dBmV 16QAM 6400000 20480 Kbits/sec
Unlocked 0 0 Hz Unknown 0.0 dBmV Unknown Unknown 0 Kbits/sec
Unlocked 0 0 Hz Unknown 0.0 dBmV Unknown Unknown 0 Kbits/sec
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/11/34.png

jimexbox 30-10-2012 10:27

Re: 120Mb live areas - Please add to this thread as your area comes online
 
Aylesbury HP21 is now upgraded to 120Mb.

Speedtest.net I get 126Mbps down, 11Mbps up.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2012/10/4.png

General Maximus 30-10-2012 18:35

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I know this is off topic Kymmy so you can delete all the posts once we have discussed it:

All of your DS channels are around 7db and I am sure Seph has said cumulative power going into the modem needs to be below 35 otherwise the thing blows up.

AndyCalling 30-10-2012 19:46

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As mentioned, SO31 is 120/12 now. I post here to add that I have now been sent a nice letter from VM to officially confirm such.

RB2004 30-10-2012 19:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 35490528)
I know this is off topic Kymmy so you can delete all the posts once we have discussed it:

All of your DS channels are around 7db and I am sure Seph has said cumulative power going into the modem needs to be below 35 otherwise the thing blows up.

Agreed should stick a 6dB attenuator on it.

7 has always been around top end anyway.

craigj2k12 03-11-2012 00:27

Re: 120Mb live areas - Please add to this thread as your area comes online
 
http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...e/td-p/1530876

Quote:

Hi this is a quick update about the progress of our 120Mb rollout.

These are the hubsites that currently have 120Mb available.

Cosham
Aldershot
Dover
Chesterfield
Havant
Horndean
Locksheath
Flitwick
Hitchin
Wisbech
And we plan to upgrade these hubsites before the end of the year.

Aylesbury
Blackburn
Melton
Tower Hamlets (Poplar)
Bishops Stortford
Rawtenstall
Wardley
Yeadon
Bromsgrove
Leeds South
Southampton
Sunderland
Ashford
Bromborough
Derby
Gateshead
Kings Norton
Luton
Port Talbot
Addlestone
Barrhead
Dunstable
Heckmondwike
Hersham
Once these areas are upgraded if you're on 50Mb or 100Mb you'll be upgraded to 120Mb automatically.

Also our Boltometer is being updated in a few weeks, so you'll be able to check your postcode once that's live. We'll post an update with news when it is.

Thanks

General Maximus 03-11-2012 08:25

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everywhere has already been "upgraded" so why not just send the new configs down? They always said that 50mbit customers (now 100) were a small percentage of the customer base so giving us all an extra 20mbit won't bring down the network

ferretuk 03-11-2012 09:30

Re: 120Mb live areas - Please add to this thread as your area comes online
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 35491861)
everywhere has already been "upgraded" so why not just send the new configs down? They always said that 50mbit customers (now 100) were a small percentage of the customer base so giving us all an extra 20mbit won't bring down the network

Which bit of "Let's keep this as a clear record of the rollout, without comment" is too complicated for you?

So much for a clean straightforward record for people to simply refer to... :doh:

Fortunately, it seems that VM are publishing the list now so this thread is no longer needed.

General Maximus 03-11-2012 14:10

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Exactly, maybe you should have thought of that before you started your usual bitching

Rob King 16-11-2012 00:31

Re: 120Mb live areas - Please add to this thread as your area comes online
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 35487823)
Flitwick UBR has just gone live at 7:40BST this morning

Config page shows


Network status hasn't changed but I was already on 8DS and 2US


https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/11/34.png

how come my upload speed doesn't go over 10mb i got upgraded on 1st Nov to 120mb and i get 126mb on a speedtest but the fastest i have had is 10.10mb upload , before the upgrade i got 9.5mb upload

jempalmer 16-11-2012 01:20

Re: 120Mb live areas - Please add to this thread as your area comes online
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob King (Post 35497485)
how come my upload speed doesn't go over 10mb i got upgraded on 1st Nov to 120mb and i get 126mb on a speedtest but the fastest i have had is 10.10mb upload , before the upgrade i got 9.5mb upload

Post your speedtest results Rob.

ileikcaek 16-11-2012 02:39

Re: 120Mb live areas - Please add to this thread as your area comes online
 
Still haven't got 120Mb in Dover, very odd they would officially state it is available yet still not have customers in the area upgraded even half a month later.

Rob King 17-11-2012 00:45

Re: 120Mb live areas - Please add to this thread as your area comes online
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jempalmer (Post 35497491)
Post your speedtest results Rob.

http://speedtest.net/result/2306151925.png

RB2004 17-11-2012 13:33

Re: 120Mb live areas - Please add to this thread as your area comes online
 
doublespeed says that upgrades will be complete by end of november here.. but basildon is not on their list to have done by the end of the year :(

ccarmock 17-11-2012 17:55

Re: 120Mb live areas - Please add to this thread as your area comes online
 
Double speed claims New Malden will be done by end December too, yet not on the list above, and due to a severe congestion fault I have I was told February at the earliest for relief work. So no way end December will be met.

Typical that VM can't work from one version of the truth!

General Maximus 17-11-2012 18:01

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it looks good on paper though. They can't announce speed upgrades without releasing some dates and making it look like you'll get it some time soon.

broadbandking 18-11-2012 09:05

Re: 120Mb live areas - Please add to this thread as your area comes online
 
Its not as easy as flicking a switch, they can plan a date but if the numbers off subs goes up in that area before the upgrade then VM would have to put it back to ensure upgrades are completed before doubling the speeds.

idi banashapan 18-11-2012 15:30

Re: 120Mb live areas - Please add to this thread as your area comes online
 
date keeps going back for upgrade where I am. initially June this year, then October, then March 2013. checked yesterday and now it's May-August 2013... not that 50Mb is too slow (although Youtube still buffers everything all the time - I remember back in the day Real Media were always the but of buffering jokes), but hey - it will be nice to see it at 120Mbps

General Maximus 18-11-2012 18:03

Re: 120Mb live areas - Please add to this thread as your area comes online
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by broadbandking (Post 35498512)
Its not as easy as flicking a switch, they can plan a date but if the numbers off subs goes up in that area before the upgrade then VM would have to put it back to ensure upgrades are completed before doubling the speeds.

so basically it is **** poor cheap ass planning. If you are running a business and know/expect your customer numbers to go up by 5% each quarter (which the sales buffs will be planning) and know that it is going to equate to e.g. 115000 customers in an area in 6 months which is when the planned upgrade is for, you don't plan to do the upgrade for 98,000 customers which is what we currently have and then say "damn, we have magically got more customers so we are going to have to bang the upgrade date back".

If they planned for extra to start off with then they wouldn't have any of the problems they do now and in a worse case scenario, they would be future proofing the network by having the extra capacity available.

Nobody likes failed deadlines.

Skie 20-11-2012 22:17

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Planning for future growth is one of those things that is incredibly difficult to get spot on. Of course, you have to be special to get it so incredibly wrong so consistently.

You can always over provision with an eye to the future. It seems VM would rather risk under provisioning and just react to those areas when they happen. Makes sense for a cash strapped company, really.

General Maximus 20-11-2012 22:32

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but if they took a leap of faith and invested in quality then they would get more customers flocking to them. Atm I think their whole ethos has sort of shot them in the foot as everyone is flocking to Infinity just to get a decent internet connection

craigj2k12 20-11-2012 22:37

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Once infinity get their rollout finished, then a proper marketing strategy (highlighting ping, jitter, upload speeds) they are going to blow VM out of the water, and im not sure whether VMs lack of investment is a recognisation of this. i.e. VM arent adding capacity as they are expecting a lot of people to move to FTTC

General Maximus 20-11-2012 22:43

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they just need to pull their finger out and get it sorted. Even if they announce FTTC tomorrow they'll still fanny around for the next 2 years with a rollout schedule which they'll keep putting back and back and back. With VM it is all words and no substance.

babis3g 03-12-2012 14:43

Re: 120Mb live areas - Please add to this thread as your area comes online
 
ok i add in this thread because i see some other conversation with upgrades infos...
Today new cabinet (VM) installed next of property 5 meters away and 3 van cabling guys add new fibre optic cable in it(under the road was pulling it)

The one in am connected is about 30 meters away and last May(ok i know is long time) when engineer came for me and i looked the cabinet inside (cos he rearrange the power levels from cabinet the onei am on,30 m away)...half side was empty
so now with in 30 meters are 2 cabinets

Is this mean the 120mb coming soon or they splitting their network because other cabinet must be full?
Can also ask to change me to the new one?

any ideas?thanks

General Maximus 03-12-2012 15:04

Re: 120Mb live areas - Please add to this thread as your area comes online
 
Dude are you english?

Kabaal 03-12-2012 15:15

Re: 120Mb live areas - Please add to this thread as your area comes online
 
Finally on 2 upstream channels in KY1. No doubt 120mb will probably still be months away but at least it's nice to have a solid 9.7mb up and ~10ms knocked off pings.

babis3g 03-12-2012 15:22

Re: 120Mb live areas - Please add to this thread as your area comes online
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 35506123)
Dude are you english?

No sir sorry

qasdfdsaq 03-12-2012 15:43

Re: 120Mb live areas - Please add to this thread as your area comes online
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 35506123)
Dude are you english?

Racist.

Sirius 03-12-2012 15:45

Re: 120Mb live areas - Please add to this thread as your area comes online
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by babis3g (Post 35506114)
ok i add in this thread because i see some other conversation with upgrades infos...
Today new cabinet (VM) installed next of property 5 meters away and 3 van cabling guys add new fibre optic cable in it(under the road was pulling it)

The one in am connected is about 30 meters away and last May(ok i know is long time) when engineer came for me and i looked the cabinet inside (cos he rearrange the power levels from cabinet the onei am on,30 m away)...half side was empty
so now with in 30 meters are 2 cabinets

Is this mean the 120mb coming soon or they splitting their network because other cabinet must be full?
Can also ask to change me to the new one?

any ideas?thanks

It could well be, there is a lot of extra fibre being pulled and planned, this is to allow for new fibre splits and resegmentation. In some areas that means that there is a requirement for additional cabinets as some of the new fibre amps are larger than the original.

babis3g 03-12-2012 15:54

Re: 120Mb live areas - Please add to this thread as your area comes online
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by General Maximus
Dude are you english?
Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35506140)
Racist.

LoL you gonna start again guys??? :D

---------- Post added at 15:54 ---------- Previous post was at 15:51 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35506143)
It could well be, there is a lot of extra fibre being pulled and planned, this is to allow for new fibre splits and resegmentation. In some areas that means that there is a requirement for additional cabinets as some of the new fibre amps are larger than the original.

Thanks... sound promising, with in 30 meters being 2 cabinets near me ;)
I don't think the one i am now is full
VM seems is working hard

Sirius 03-12-2012 15:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by babis3g (Post 35506148)
LoL you gonna start again guys??? :D

---------- Post added at 15:54 ---------- Previous post was at 15:51 ----------



Thanks... sound promising, with in 30 meters being 2 cabinets near me ;)
I don't think the one i am now is full
VM seems is working hard

The cabinet may not be full as you understand it, but the resegmentation allows for more capacity

Kabaal 03-12-2012 17:46

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The Boltometer has been updated with the 120mb estimates, not sure if it's working properly though seeing as it says between September 2013 and December 2013 for me, if that's correct then it's a bit of a joke being a year and a half after the doubling to 100mb was done in my area.

ileikcaek 03-12-2012 17:58

Re: 120Mb live areas - Please add to this thread as your area comes online
 
Yeah it's been updated and like the forum list it says I should be on 120Mb yet I'm still stuck on 100 - as is myvirginmedia with the green box that says "When we've upgraded your area". very odd!

http://puu.sh/1wK4D

Kabaal 03-12-2012 18:14

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It seems to be a bit messed up, folks are getting wacky estimates like this http://i.imgur.com/bRbBE.png

General Maximus 03-12-2012 19:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35506140)
Racist.

no i am not. I was just wondering because I have trouble understanding the majority of this posts.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Kabaal (Post 35506202)
The Boltometer has been updated with the 120mb estimates, not sure if it's working properly though seeing as it says between September 2013 and December 2013 for me, if that's correct then it's a bit of a joke being a year and a half after the doubling to 100mb was done in my area.


sweet, it says my area is due by the end of this month. I am feeling optomisitc because they have always been bang on target in my area.

qasdfdsaq 03-12-2012 20:53

Re: 120Mb live areas - Please add to this thread as your area comes online
 
"May 2013 and August 2013"

Good job I got myself Infinity in February 2012.

Skie 03-12-2012 22:07

Re: 120Mb live areas - Please add to this thread as your area comes online
 
My area is currently being "upgraded" to support 100meg, but will take another year to enhance the network to allow for 120meg.

VM are masters at planning aren't they?

Harryn9000 03-12-2012 22:32

Re: 120Mb live areas - Please add to this thread as your area comes online
 
skie i no what mean i am lucky to get 86mb off them but virgins speedtest is 93mb don't no how some ppl on here get over 104mb infinty cannot come soon enough for me aswell. it makes a change as liverpool was one of the last to be done last time

qasdfdsaq 03-12-2012 22:36

Re: 120Mb live areas - Please add to this thread as your area comes online
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Skie (Post 35506331)
My area is currently being "upgraded" to support 100meg, but will take another year to enhance the network to allow for 120meg.

Mine'll take another year just to get 100Mb.

General Maximus 03-12-2012 23:22

Re: 120Mb live areas - Please add to this thread as your area comes online
 
i thought all areas were 100mbit enabled by last xmas?

Martin_D 04-12-2012 08:20

Re: 120Mb live areas - Please add to this thread as your area comes online
 
can't wait to move to bt infinity

120mb Estimates:
September 2013 and December 2013.

General Maximus 04-12-2012 08:43

Re: 120Mb live areas - Please add to this thread as your area comes online
 
for the sake of 20mbit it is pathetic. They always said that the high end tiers account for a fraction of the customer base so how extra bandwidth are we actually talking about vs the number of customers they have banged up to 30mbit and 60mbit?

Firmsky 04-12-2012 11:21

Re: 120Mb live areas - Please add to this thread as your area comes online
 
Pssst -
if you're one of our up to 100Mb customers, we're going to upgrade you to up to 120Mb. It may take a little while, but it's coming.
Hang tight - we estimate your area will be ready between June 2013 and November 2013.
Not sure what package you're on? Then log in to My Virgin Media or check your bill.


Ipswich area.

Synthetic 04-12-2012 12:24

Re: 120Mb live areas - Please add to this thread as your area comes online
 
Mine says between Sept and Dec 2013, but the update on the community forums says that my hubsite (Gateshead) should be done be the end of this year....

qasdfdsaq 04-12-2012 13:32

Re: 120Mb live areas - Please add to this thread as your area comes online
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 35506359)
i thought all areas were 100mbit enabled by last xmas?

Nope.

We got 100/5 for new customers, never had the full 100/10.

Skie 04-12-2012 18:41

Re: 120Mb live areas - Please add to this thread as your area comes online
 
Same. Was another PR thing rather than them actually improving their network.

robson689 04-12-2012 20:12

Re: 120Mb live areas - Please add to this thread as your area comes online
 
The bolt-o-metre has been updated now, and it has the 120Mb details on :)

My area OL9 is predicted for September 2013 - December 2013!

RB2004 05-12-2012 00:47

We've finished upgrading the fibre optic network in your area.

Pssst -
if you're one of our up to 100Mb customers, we're going to upgrade you to up to 120Mb. It may take a while, but it's coming.
Hang tight - we estimate your area will be ready between September 2013 and December 2013.


I don't understand that... If the double speed upgrades are finished, as it says they are, why is it stating it will take another 9-12 months for 120mbit?

Surely that means well actually the double speed upgrades aren't complete? Because I thought once they are complete there's no reason for not enabling 120mbit

babis3g 05-12-2012 02:45

Re: 120Mb live areas - Please add to this thread as your area comes online
 
Here for London NW5 area
Quote:

Pssst -
if you're one of our up to 100Mb customers, we're going to upgrade you to up to 120Mb. It may take a little while, but it's coming.
Hang tight - we estimate your area will be ready between May 2013 and October 2013.
Not sure what package you're on? Then log in to My Virgin Media or check your bill.
I don't think will be ready by May in the begin of the expected time

Pssst - :redcard:
FTTP, fibre all the way to Home may coming by that time and starts around same time with On Demand
Note i am not getting it, too expensive to install it unless will be a special offer at time


But is 20mb on top down and ONLY 2Mb Up ...
My 2850n firewall can not go over 100mb any way (at the moment unless draytek get special firmware which it does from time to time) ...so ... is not bother me much really the upgrade to 2mb more upload/20 down

BenMcr 05-12-2012 15:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RB2004 (Post 35506996)
I don't understand that... If the double speed upgrades are finished, as it says they are, why is it stating it will take another 9-12 months for 120mbit?

Surely that means well actually the double speed upgrades aren't complete? Because I thought once they are complete there's no reason for not enabling 120mbit

The double speed upgrades that were on the schedule were for all uplifts apart from 120Mbit

The other upgrades mostly just need more capacity - the 120Mbit needs other work to complete, so has it's own schedule

Rob King 05-12-2012 15:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35507200)
The double speed upgrades that were on the schedule were for all uplifts apart from 120Mbit



The other upgrades mostly just need more capacity - the 120Mbit needs other work to complete, so has it's own schedule

i got 120mb on nov 1st but haven't been able to go over 10mb upload but now i get this message on my postcode checker

" Pssst -

if you're one of our up to 100Mb customers, we're going to upgrade you to up to 120Mb. It may take a little while, but it's coming.

Hang tight - we estimate your area will be ready between May 2013 and October 2013.

Not sure what package you're on? Then log in to My Virgin Media or check your bill. "

thats really wierd but maybe thats why i haven't been able to get much faster upload ( i was getting 9.5mb upload before nov 1st ) so i got a little faster upload speed


http://www.speedtest.net/result/2352951764.png

qasdfdsaq 05-12-2012 18:02

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You haven't been able to get much faster upload because there isn't any "much faster upload" on offer. Additionally, Speedtest.net is crap at measuring fast uploads.

General Maximus 05-12-2012 18:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35507200)
The other upgrades mostly just need more capacity - the 120Mbit needs other work to complete, so has it's own schedule

what sort of work. The capacity must be there already because there is no way they are stupid enough to not do it when they did the doubling work. All we are talking about is 20mbit and I know it needs a new config file but so did 30mbit and 60mbit.

BenMcr 05-12-2012 20:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 35507317)
what sort of work. The capacity must be there already because there is no way they are stupid enough to not do it when they did the doubling work. All we are talking about is 20mbit and I know it needs a new config file but so did 30mbit and 60mbit.

When 100Mbit was initially rolled out across the network it was more work than just a new config to replace the 50Mbit one, so the same applies to 120Mbit

I don't know the full technical details, but I do know it's different work required than it is for the other upgrades - which is where there is a different schedule

Hom3r 05-12-2012 20:30

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Use this speed test site to check your speed, it was give to me by an engineer, more accurate than the ordinary speed test

http://www.speedtest.bbmax.co.uk/

Don't forget that your kit must be able to handle it, I had to upgrade my wi-fi card in my laptop.

General Maximus 05-12-2012 21:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35507402)
When 100Mbit was initially rolled out across the network it was more work than just a new config to replace the 50Mbit one, so the same applies to 120Mbit

I don't know the full technical details, but I do know it's different work required than it is for the other upgrades - which is where there is a different schedule

I appreciate the work involved in the initial rollout because you are talking about a bucket load of extra bandwidth. But they did that last year and this year they have done a tonne of work to upgrade the network for the speed doubling so as far as I am concerned 99% of the work has been done and the capacity is there so I don't understand why they cant bang a new config down for the extra 20mbit

qasdfdsaq 05-12-2012 21:48

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I think what he's saying is it's two separate things in the business plan. They're going at it like the rollout of a completely new tier, e.g. when 100Mb came out over 50Mb, or 50 from 20.

Skie 05-12-2012 22:33

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If they were two separate plans then we can legitimately say they ballsed up twice when it comes to scheudles/estimates :)

qasdfdsaq 05-12-2012 23:25

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They ballsed up the last 3 in a row, that's news how? :p:

BeeVee 06-12-2012 15:27

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"Exciting news - we're upgrading you to up to 120Mb, the UK's fastest ever widely available broadband! Our engineers are currently upgrading our fibre optic network area by area to make up to 120Mb broadband available, and we'll let you know as soon as your area's ready.

As you're upgrading to some seriously fast broadband, you're going to need a new modem that's built to handle speeds of up to 120Mb. But don't worry - just click on the link and we'll send you your free Virgin Media Super Hub."

Bit confused here.

I'm on VIP50, don't have a Super Hub and when I check the 120 Mb upgrade it says it won't be ready for another year.

So why do I need a Super Hub now ?

Bristol BS15 area.

Zee 06-12-2012 15:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BeeVee (Post 35507736)
"Exciting news - we're upgrading you to up to 120Mb, the UK's fastest ever widely available broadband! Our engineers are currently upgrading our fibre optic network area by area to make up to 120Mb broadband available, and we'll let you know as soon as your area's ready.

As you're upgrading to some seriously fast broadband, you're going to need a new modem that's built to handle speeds of up to 120Mb. But don't worry - just click on the link and we'll send you your free Virgin Media Super Hub."

Bit confused here.

I'm on VIP50, don't have a Super Hub and when I check the 120 Mb upgrade it says it won't be ready for another year.

So why do I need a Super Hub now ?

Bristol BS15 area.

you'll need a superhub for 100Mb as the others dont support 100Mb. 120Mb upgrade comes afterwards. My area is due for upgrade in December 2012 but upgrade to 120Mb is due between June 2013 and November 2013.

BeeVee 06-12-2012 15:34

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Thank you Zee.

Perhaps Virgin could add that one line to their message, would stop any confusion to noobs like me.

Thanks again.

ileikcaek 06-12-2012 15:49

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If your upgrade isn't going live for another year I would suggest you stick with the old modem for now, I would expect the new superhub 2 to be out before you see 120Mb so you may as well hold out and then get one of those when the time comes.

BeeVee 06-12-2012 16:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rickymallory (Post 35507764)
If your upgrade isn't going live for another year I would suggest you stick with the old modem for now, I would expect the new superhub 2 to be out before you see 120Mb so you may as well hold out and then get one of those when the time comes.

I'm on VIP50 with the 50Mb speed ricky, so as Zee mentioned, I guess I need a Super Hub to get the 100Mb, which I assume is enabled now.

The message on My Virgin Media site asks me to "upgrade" to a Super Hub...... does upgrading to a Super Hub tie me in to a 1 year contract ?

BenMcr 06-12-2012 16:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Zee (Post 35507740)
you'll need a superhub for 100Mb as the others dont support 100Mb. 120Mb upgrade comes afterwards. My area is due for upgrade in December 2012 but upgrade to 120Mb is due between June 2013 and November 2013.

The VMNG300 that was issued for 50Mbit will do up to 120Mbit, but the routers that were supplied with them won't

General Maximus 06-12-2012 18:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Zee (Post 35507740)
you'll need a superhub for 100Mb as the others dont support 100Mb.

yes they do. If you have got a vmng300 zee keep hold of it, it is worth its weight in gold. I have been on 100/10 for over a year now and it has worked perfectly. All you need to do is make sure you have got a router which can handle the speed (preferably one with gigabit ports).

Whatever you do don't think "oh well if i have to pay for another router I had might as well let VM give me a shub for free". There is a reason why they are free and they arent worth the hassel.

BeeVee 06-12-2012 18:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 35507848)
yes they do. If you have got a vmng300 zee keep hold of it, it is worth its weight in gold. I have been on 100/10 for over a year now and it has worked perfectly. All you need to do is make sure you have got a router which can handle the speed (preferably one with gigabit ports).

Whatever you do don't think "oh well if i have to pay for another router I had might as well let VM give me a shub for free". There is a reason why they are free and they arent worth the hassel.

Can you recommend a router General Maximus ?

General Maximus 06-12-2012 18:24

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you have got onto my favourite subject now :) I am Linksys (Cisco) all the way. I have had 4 models over the last 10 years and never had a problom with any of they. They deliver rock solid performance and are 100% reliable. As an entry level model I would be looking at this one which is £60 on amazon but you might be able to get it cheaper else where:

http://home.cisco.com/en-eu/products/routers/E2500
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Linksys-E250...4817740&sr=8-1

The next series up which is what I have got lets you directly connect external hdds and setup NAS and ftp servers etc and has a higher throughput:

http://home.cisco.com/en-eu/products/routers/E3200
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Linksys-Perf...4818205&sr=1-1



Other users will recommend different routers and you can get cheaper routers with similar features but what you have got to ask yourself is this; if you have always had an Audi and love it why drop down to a Skoda?

BeeVee 06-12-2012 19:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 35507862)
you have got onto my favourite subject now :) I am Linksys (Cisco) all the way. I have had 4 models over the last 10 years and never had a problom with any of they. They deliver rock solid performance and are 100% reliable. As an entry level model I would be looking at this one which is £60 on amazon but you might be able to get it cheaper else where:

http://home.cisco.com/en-eu/products/routers/E2500
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Linksys-E250...4817740&sr=8-1

The next series up which is what I have got lets you directly connect external hdds and setup NAS and ftp servers etc and has a higher throughput:

http://home.cisco.com/en-eu/products/routers/E3200
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Linksys-Perf...4818205&sr=1-1



Other users will recommend different routers and you can get cheaper routers with similar features but what you have got to ask yourself is this; if you have always had an Audi and love it why drop down to a Skoda?

Awesome post, thank you very much.

Just ordered the E3200 from Amazon..

General Maximus 06-12-2012 20:00

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well done dude, you deserve a gold medal. I wish everyone else was as sensible as you.

BeeVee 06-12-2012 20:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 35507917)
well done dude, you deserve a gold medal. I wish everyone else was as sensible as you.

My son just came home... " about time you upgraded that router Dad ! "

Thanks for the help.. appreciate it.

borrissey 07-12-2012 10:58

Newport West.

Had my upgrade few weeks ago.

adduxi 07-12-2012 11:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 35507862)
Other users will recommend different routers and you can get cheaper routers with similar features but what you have got to ask yourself is this; if you have always had an Audi and love it why drop down to a Skoda?

Hey now, Mon General, lets not go too far ..... I had a Skoda Estelle for 2 years and it never let me down :)

As for Linksys, agree 100%, except I defected at my last router change and ended up with an ASUS. However I mught go back to Linksys when they upgrade me to 120 in January.
The only thing I dislike is the "spying" Cisco Cloud ..... ;)

qasdfdsaq 07-12-2012 13:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Zee (Post 35507740)
you'll need a superhub for 100Mb as the others dont support 100Mb. 120Mb upgrade comes afterwards. My area is due for upgrade in December 2012 but upgrade to 120Mb is due between June 2013 and November 2013.

Lies

Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35507797)
The VMNG300 that was issued for 50Mbit will do up to 120Mbit, but the routers that were supplied with them won't

Truths

Quote:

Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 35507917)
well done dude, you deserve a gold medal. I wish everyone else was as sensible as you.

Don't diss my TP-Link army. :sleep:

ileikcaek 10-12-2012 18:19

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I just had to get my mum to phone them as we were supposed to have 120 weeks ago, the lady on the other end did it straight away, very happy now!

(Dover)

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/12/47.png

General Maximus 10-12-2012 18:41

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nice one dude; the full 120/12. I am looking forward to it now :)

babis3g 13-12-2012 02:10

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LIVE Update Report LOLOL

as reported to the other thread here
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35509794-post45.html
they are out right now fixing for second night again(5 vans out now - 3 from cabling division & 2 VM)
I am right now (12:30am)disconnected and the engineers told me will take few hours with out connection
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...13-12-2012.png

Hopefully later i will have 2 upstream channels
The new cabinet seems has 3 amplifiers or so in it ...i can see 3 big metals boxes in the cabinet...they are not letting me take any pics
I am typing from my adsl connection

---------- Post added at 02:10 ---------- Previous post was at 00:32 ----------

They left

at the moment the SH is locked to the only one appearing downstream(No other channels yet) and one new upstream(27400000Hz)
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/12/39.png

EDIT
Seems back to normal.
Are 6 downstream (instead of 5) but not 2 upstreams yet...just one new.
Downstream power levels was +2 and now at the moment -5
To me (it looks has more congestion this update but i am sure VM still working on it so will check back in the morning

babis3g 13-12-2012 15:00

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after 2 pm had a manual go by changing the channels...i change to an other upstream and jitter 0 at 3pm first time this time of the day
Seems the new upstream (locked originally by default)everybody got it
http://www.pingtest.net/result/73839444.png
Promising ;) :)

Kabaal 13-12-2012 15:13

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Same thing happened when they added a new upstream in my area babis3g. Dropped 10ms+ off pings and went from having a fair bit of jitter to zero.

General Maximus 13-12-2012 18:32

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Lincoln is now on 120/12. From the log it looks like it happened Monday morning around 11:15 and I have only just noticed :)

qasdfdsaq 14-12-2012 02:36

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VMNG300 can only support a speed of approximately 92Mb huh?

crazyronnie 14-12-2012 07:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 35511272)
Lincoln is now on 120/12. From the log it looks like it happened Monday morning around 11:15 and I have only just noticed :)

With only 4 downstream channels what speeds are you getting?

General Maximus 14-12-2012 08:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35511540)
VMNG300 can only support a speed of approximately 92Mb huh?

dont get me started


Quote:

Originally Posted by crazyronnie (Post 35511569)
With only 4 downstream channels what speeds are you getting?

i ran a quick speed test last night on speedtest.net and it came back with 93/11.3. I am uploading some torrents atm and it is holding steady at 1.4mb/sec and before it was 1.13mb/sec so I am really happy about that. If I remember Monday morning (cant do it over the weekend) I'll download some stuff from newsgroups and see what I get. Newsgroups is the only way I have ever been able to max out my connection which was previously 12.6mb/sec. My area has always been perfect for speed and congestion so I am not worried about being on 4 downstream channels at all. And while I am at it I'll give VM a round of applause for getting the upgrades done on time. I know a lot of peeps are moaning atm that they keep being put back. I was down for end of December and they came through 2 weeks early. What a love Christmas present :clap:

qasdfdsaq 14-12-2012 12:47

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Hah so you're only getting approximately 92Mb ;)

babis3g 14-12-2012 17:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by crazyronnie (Post 35511569)
With only 4 downstream channels what speeds are you getting?

I think a 256-QAM channel can transport 38 Mbps, then four 256-QAM bonded channels can transport 152 Mbps
Have you got any 3rd part router?if yes maybe its firewall or if that 3rd part router or the VGM 300 is not 10/100/1000 based can restrict the speed
My draytek is not going more than 90mb really, due to the firewall.

At my post here ...after they connect back the service ...it locked only to one channel (for short time) and got 35mb
(later bonded an other 5 and service was back to normal)
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35510917-post78.html
Thanks

General Maximus 14-12-2012 18:28

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I have got a Linksys router and the firewall is on. I won't know what sort of speed I can achieve downstream until I do a test on Monday but I am not too fussed. The upstream is more important to me.

Skie 14-12-2012 21:01

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Make sure your QoS (if any) is changed to take into account of your faster speeds too. I forgot about that once after a round of speed doubling and spent ages wondering why until it twigged :)

Gavin78 14-12-2012 23:32

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Mine says "We estimate your area will be ready by the end of: December 2012"

then under that in black it says this - Pssst -

if you're one of our up to 100Mb customers, we're going to upgrade you to up to 120Mb. It may take a little while, but it's coming.

Hang tight - we estimate your area will be ready between May 2013 and October 2013.

Just wondering which one is it Dec or the one below?

qasdfdsaq 14-12-2012 23:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by babis3g (Post 35511795)
I think a 256-QAM channel can transport 38 Mbps, then four 256-QAM bonded channels can transport 152 Mbps

That would be in the US.

In the UK it transports ~55Mbps. EuroDOCSIS uses wider channels than the US.

General Maximus 15-12-2012 07:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin78 (Post 35512018)
Mine says "We estimate your area will be ready by the end of: December 2012"

then under that in black it says this - Pssst -

if you're one of our up to 100Mb customers, we're going to upgrade you to up to 120Mb. It may take a little while, but it's coming.

Hang tight - we estimate your area will be ready between May 2013 and October 2013.

Just wondering which one is it Dec or the one below?

30mbit and 50mbit customers will be doubled to 60 and 100 respectively by the end of the month. If you are already on 100mbit you will have received a priced reduction back in April resuting in you having had a 100mbit connection but paying the 50mbit price all year.

All 100mbit customers (current and newly doubled) will then be upgraded to 120/12 between May and June next year.

telfordcable 15-12-2012 22:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 35511272)
Lincoln is now on 120/12. From the log it looks like it happened Monday morning around 11:15 and I have only just noticed :)

It won't support 126Meg from your VMNG300 (only 92Meg)

babis3g 16-12-2012 03:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by telfordcable (Post 35512606)
It won't support 126Meg from your VMNG300 (only 92Meg)

Hi...it does ... check at posts 6 & 9
http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...s/td-p/1611282

General Maximus 16-12-2012 08:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by telfordcable (Post 35512606)
It won't support 126Meg from your VMNG300 (only 92Meg)

we'll find out tomorrow morning when i give newsgroups a thrashing

telfordcable 16-12-2012 09:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by babis3g (Post 35512653)
Hi...it does ... check at posts 6 & 9
http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...s/td-p/1611282

strange as many virgin media staffs, tech guys and managers say vmng300 will not cope with up to 100 meg because of 6 to 8 downstream channels - must use superhub.

Peter_ 16-12-2012 10:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by telfordcable (Post 35512681)
strange as many virgin media staffs, tech guys and managers say vmng300 will not cope with up to 100 meg because of 6 to 8 downstream channels - must use superhub.

The VMNG300 does not do more than 8 downstreams, as more downstreams come online it will struggle plus once they fail the is no replacement except for a Superhub.

General Maximus 16-12-2012 13:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by telfordcable (Post 35512681)
strange as many virgin media staffs, tech guys and managers say vmng300 will not cope with up to 100 meg because of 6 to 8 downstream channels - must use superhub.

The vmng300 is good for 200mbits. ig it doesnt do that then it is because the channels they are using are congested


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