Kelly group
 

Just wondered if anyone had any information on Kelly group. They have offered me a job as a telecommunication engineer but very wary of taking it because have heard a lot of negative feed back about them.

Any information would be very much appreciated as I don't wanna change jobs and be screwed over.

Thanks again.

Greg.

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is the job with Openreach BT ?

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I'm not sure to be honest but that does ring a bell. Literally a woman phoned me up while I was at work today and just spilled lots of jargon to me. She said 9 days training in Coventry then go straight out on me own getting £25 an install.

I work on a building site for myself and I hate my job so I see that job and I applied for it. I've got three kids and a mortgage so I need to make the right decision.

Thanks for helping.

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Kelly Group or Kelly Services (one and the same) both are recruitment agencies offering work, yes it's a good thing, but if they offer Temp to Perm steer clear mate. 12 weeks work and then they reject you, saying your "not suitable" agency wins by providing staff so get their cream and the company wins by getting your cheap labour.

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It was such a brief phone call. Wasn't even an interview which really makes me think it's shady. To not be on a set wage is worrying as well cos if you onlY do 2 installs, £50 ain't gonna pay my bills lol.

Nearly everything i have read about Kelly group has been bad. I have no knowledge or experience in this sector so just need as much info as possible before I commit.

Thanks.

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what do they class as an install?. to me for 25.00 would be tv, internet and phone which could take upto 90 mins plus per job.

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Not sure if I'm honest. They said people do 7,8,9 jobs a day but I'm guessing they just tell you that to get you interested.

I just don't know hat to do but my gut instinct is telling me not to take the job.

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Put it this way, even if they gave me FREE cable tv/bb/phone for life, I would not take the job even if l was desperate.

In the Telewest days l applied for a job with there collections team, and l went with them for three hours going to homes in the Twickenham area. I realised why customers get fed up with the cable network and what they did, and that was enough for me, they called me three days later to say that they couldn't take on anymore staff as they were making cutbacks.

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well i work for Fujitsu on the VM contract and we do 5/6 jobs a day, all diff from a single bb install to a full install included are 2 x tv, bb and phone

anyway i fought MJ Quinns had the BT contract.

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Stay where you are in your current job!

Kelly's is NOT the way to go, you will be making a big mistake imo

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I really appreciate all the feed back.

I work on a building site and really wanna change careers but I have 3 kids and a mortgage so I have to think logically not selfishly.

On the feed back I've been given, I'll be telling Kelly's group to find someone else.

Once again really appreciate your views.

Greg.

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ask them for part time work??

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I have heard many awful stories about Kelly's, and the worst thing is that VM or Telewest stuck with them - probaly because they are cheap.

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Good move, having worked for Kelly's in the past, i can assure you that you've made the right choice.

Granted you might not like your current job, but there are far far worse out there, one of which you've just avoided ;)

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Telecommunications Installation Engineer (Residential).

This is the job I have been offered so just wondered if anyone knew what it involves.

Thanks.

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i would assume it means exactly what i posted above

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Does anyone know how far job to job is or does it all just depend? Im from Essex and just wondered if you get 1 job in Southend then 1 the other dude how do they expect you to do 4+ installs a day?

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Kelly's do NOT have any dealings in the areas you have mentioned. It's all mcnicholas there. Where have you been offered the work? As far as I'm aware Kelly's have SOME work in London that's about it in the south east..

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Thanks for replying, just found out it's all London. Based. I won't be taking the job because my gut instincts telling me not to trust kellys.

Thanks again.

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Your gut instinct would be very correct ;)

Kelly's are never to be trusted, let that be a warning to anyone who thinks about working for them, you do at your own risk :erm:

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I spoke with some engineers in Ealing where l work, and VM have to bring engineers and installers from Birmingham and Manchester area's as they are trying to get rid of Kelly's.

They also said that customers opinion of Kelly's is NOT very good.

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BEWARE !!! KELLYS RIP U OFF

What a dreadful company.
After attending an induction+accreditation course (BT openreach) i started working for these people. After a few days it became clearly apparent that they could not organise a **** up in a brewery.
Nethertheless i foolishly stayed for two weeks in the hope that things might change. They didn't so i resigned. Returned van and tools as requested.
Now i find out they are not paying me for the time i worked. As they have a sneeky clause in contract that docs £500 if you leave within 12mths. What a disgrace!! When i rang the accounts umbrella company they said that everybody is informed at induction.
No i wasn't!!!
Absolute disgrace!!
Now seeking legal advice.
Please ..Please..beware.....do not join them.

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thids is the same for Fujitsu, but we are made aware at induction.

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Hi people
I also have been offered the same job with Kelly.
I'm currently self employed cleaning wheelie bins(my own company).
I put myself on a telecoms course-self funded-last yr and managed to get some fibre work for a few months working through Telent/BT which i found was really interesting!!
I haven't had any work since but had my business to fall back on!
I'd like to gain more experience and was excited when KELLY offered me the telecom job but now I'm not so sure if this is the right direction as of all of the negative comments...
Can anyone enlighten me?

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TinkerTaylor, do yourself a favour, from what l have heard about Kelly, if its the same company as Kelly Communications, then forget it.

I have spoken with a lot of VM engineers, and they are repeatly going round fixing faults caused by Kelly Comm.

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Thanks for replying Arthur
It is Kelly comm this is the role:
Provision of overhead lines from DP to customers property
Residential installations
Connectivity and test work
Copper installation work
Poling (or the ability to work at height)
Candidates will receive a van, (with fuel card) tools, uniform and PPE

so presuming this is Openreach contract!

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It does sound likely. Don't let Arthur put you off. Good luck.

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It will be the Openreach contract yes, but, if you do take it don't say you haven't been warned.

They (Kelly's) will do you over, just like the sun rising, it will happen :erm:

Ensure you have your old job to fall back on.....

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I Agree BEWARE OF THIS COMPANY....
I also attended the training course which heavily pushed H & S although very quickly, only to find in the real world of Kelly all H & S is thrown into the wind.
After working in the field of 1 week I was placed on price work without any knowledge of being placed on price work and with out a phone where I could down load jobs. I was told to shadow another engineer until a phone arrived 3 weeks later.
The first i knew I was on price work was when I received my wages 75 pounds for a weeks work at 12 hours a day 5 days a week, on confronting the pay role I was given another number to talk to a manager who was more concerned on who had given me his number and basically had nothing to say.
Work is placed on your phone and opened for you, its not unusual to have 3 jobs placed on you at 16:30 hours and opened on your behalf , looking like you are on 3 jobs all at the same time!
When contacting the powers above either the phone rings and rings or goes to voice mail, Managers don't want to know, your Field service operator will tell you to close jobs down either a Domestic fault or the Customer was not in, to bad if your the BT Open Reach customer who has stayed in or taken a day off work waiting for your new phone line or internet.
As for wages you are paid fortnightly through a 3rd Party who has no access to what hours or work has been done BUT charges you 12.50 including VAT A WEEK for the privilege of paying you every FORTNIGHT.

Kelly Managers seem to be only interested in getting the jobs off loaded on to the engineer and even if its dark still expect an engineer to climb poles and enter a BT Cabinet with a torch to fulfill the Managers quoter and Bonus.

I feel sad that a Company like Kelly can wreck a perfectly good business like BT and Kelly do not even have to go out looking for the work its handed to them on a plate.
ANY BODY CONTEMPLATING WORKING FOR KELLY PLEASE BEWARE.:rant:

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I worked for Kellys for 8 months on a contract and it was the worst 8 months of my life.

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I have been told and seen the work of Kelly Engineers, and it appalling, A very good friend of mine that l recommended, had Kelly's out and what l saw was a total disgrace.

Instead of running the cable under the ground or in a hose running by the house, they ran the cable from the street box into the house via the grass hedge, over the hedge, along the wall into a small box on the wall, then ran the cable under the carpet to the box under the tv.

The woman was given SIX MONTH free Tv, after she threatened top go to Sky.

Kelly are a nightmare.

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I think these contractors are pretty much all the same, I started digging in my partners back garden and put the spade through the coax. It was no more than 6 inches below the ground and I was unlucky enough to find a part without any duct. (The coax was directly in the earth) I also exposed the cable, again not in a duct as it entered the property and a few inches under the earth. In that location there was the remains of a brick wall in the ground and the installer had drilled through the wall at an angle to feed through the cable:dunce:

I notice the next door neighbours installation is not much better, they have cable tied the green duct to the top of the wire fence.

If costs are driven down to rock bottom this is the sort of workmanship to expect.:rolleyes:

Regarding contractors and burying of cables... I also don't like how shallow the cables are buried, so when I had my 2nd drop cable pulled... The team left it coiled up on the side of the pavement, ready for next team... So over the weekend I dug a 12" deep trench, installed some 40mm PVC pipe and used solvent weld fittings, pulled the cables through myself and connected everything up inside the brown box outside.

Then Monday morning when the engineer came to fix my telephone (because cable pulling team damaged phone wire) I got him to connect everything in the pit end.

Few days later 1 afternoon a 2 man team turned up, to bury and connect the cable... But I told them it was already done, and they openly admitted they wasn't gonna bury it more than 6" if that.. So I sent them away, they wasn't exactly happy though.

But what who's fault is that? If these contractors can't even be bothered to do the job properly and admit that to me, then get annoyed because the job had actually been done properly?

Electrical regulations state cables should be buried to a minimum of 12", while coax doesn't apply to those rules I still see no reason why the same rules on depth can't be applied as good practice if nothing else.

6" or less is not sufficient.. And asking to be damaged by a stray spade.

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This is one reason I left after being in the Telecoms industry since 1987 as a private telecoms engineer I took a job with Kellys after I came back from 7 years abroad installing cat 5 and wireless. The standards of work is embarrassing and the managers sanction it. The big problem with kellys is they employ any body on the so called training course there was a lock smith, a tree surgeon, 2 x ex retail assistant managers and so forth, people with no experience and after a 9 day course are BT Open reach accredited, they then go into the real world of telecoms and have no idea and no body really gives a $h!t. there is also no support for these guys (who like us all just want a job) except get the job done. :banghead:

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after training do they not shadow an engineer for a few weeks at least ?

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That is the idea, but in the past its 1 week shadow and then out into the real world, i had no choice as they could not even sort out a phone for the first three weeks and after one week put me on price work where I had no phone to down load jobs I made 75 pound in one week. When I asked who had put me on price work Kelly management stuck there heads in the sand and as usual no body could answer the questions of who put me on price work. Even Kelly pay role could not answer the question your just given another number to ring.
Terrible company and badly disorganised.
As I said before most new recruits have no idea of Telecom work god help BT. :Yikes:

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hi everyone i have and assesment day for kelly group for a trainee residential telecoms engineer. dose anyone know what this involves and is it hard?