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This does not sound good.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-19795761

It's about time we started bringing back capital punishment for child molesters/killers.. I really do hope though that she'll be found safe and well

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lets hope they find her

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Hopefully she turns up safe and well although I have to say with the only witnesses appearing to be other young children there might well be more to this than has been reported so far.

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Glad it's not just me.

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Oh i do so hope she is safe.

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Ditto. Capital punishment for those who harm children. Forget psychologists/ psychiatrists et al. Just dispatch them. They're not human :mad:

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An opportunist abduction is very very rare.

I'm sure more details close to home will be revealed sooner rather than later.

I hope she's found safe.

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No, I disagree with capital punishment for child abductions. Although unlikely, there is always a chance they will be released and returned. However if an abductor knows they will be put to death then there is no incentive for them to keep the child alive.

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Theres also no incentive for them to take the child in the first place

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A reasoned argument Russ. However, if those who abduct children knew the possible consequences they might think again.

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The rights and wrongs of Capital punishment is a whole other thread.

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Bless her and keep her safe.

A baseball bat would sort out the person that took her away - family, stranger, whoever.

Sorry for the outburst but she is such a young one.

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That's right, because there's absolutely no crime in countries with capital punishment.

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Theres 2 sides to every argument, but 6 foot under theres no chance of a repeat offence

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I know someone who actually comes from that part of Wales. he said you have to come off the main road to get onto the estate. so you have to know the place is there.

the kids are only 5 and 6 who witnessed it. and that it may have been a Range Rover type vehicle and not a van.

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Especially if you are found later to be innocent.

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I hope shes found well and safe.

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Well actually especially not as the real guilty party will still be out there. ;)

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:clap:

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Sky News is saying a 46 year old man has been arrested.

http://news.sky.com/story/991959/mis...d-man-arrested

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No news on the girl :(

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I'm a little curious as to why they've mentioned little if anything about her family.

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That is what has me very very worried and confused

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Yeah, my heart sunk were I heard they arrested a man but haven't found her?

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sky news

Not looking good ,the police have taped of an area next to the river :(

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Oh no please don't let it be what we are dreading it could be. :(

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Very sad new, but the arrest of a man doesn't raise an eyebrow to me. Remember the innocent man arrested in Bristol over the disappearance of Joanne Yeates. He was innocent. The Police are under enormous public pressure to come up with a result as soon as possible which can often involve someone's life being ruined in the process.

I hope she will be found very soon. My thoughts are with the family...

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I hope she has been found safe and well.

I wonder if the parent/family house is being search (Remember last time she was found dead in a family members house).

A girl was grabbed in a school in my town yesterday, but she luckily managed to get away.

Today my nephews school is on lockdown with no kid allowed to leave without a known person.

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Which town is that?

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The police said earlier that they "knew who they were looking for" in respect of her abductor.

And they found him close to the town.

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My Town is Harlow, but near by Bishop Stortford & Elsenhan has had similar events.

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Do it in private after the court case.

I do hope that she is alive and well, As I have 3 kids of my own and would be going fffffffffffffffffffff Crazy now.

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I thought that was normal practise in every Pimary school, along with a list of whom a specific child should NOT be allowed to walk away with (for good reason/s).

Good to know they are alert and aware.

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They've named him as 46 year old Mark Bridger. Not a relation but known to the family.

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Apparently the police are 'scaling back' the public search and concentrating on the river :(

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:(

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The trouble is they stopped other people taking friends kids home (as some parents do a full time job, they are stuffed as this happened today without warning)

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The Incident in Harlow was found not to be an incident:

http://www.essex.police.uk/news_feat...costing_o.aspx

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The longer this goes on the more I'm crossing my fingers and saying prayers for this wee girl :(

What her family must be going through is beyond thinking about.

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Word is the police are investigating tyre marks at a part of the river that vehicles don't usually have access to.

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On a much lesser scale of significance it's getting really annoying listening to tv reporters mispronouncing Machynlleth. Just ask a local, it's not difficult.

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It's not difficult to organise nominated person/s to collect a child. In unexpected circumstances a call to the school will give alert to the school/staff that a child is going home with a non-nomiated person, often another relative or kindly parent of other pupils. The school you speak of should have organised that years ago.
Watch the child's face when they leave the building. It'll tell everything.

Anyhow - time ticks by and I'm not feeling hopeful.

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Good old Huw Edwards nailed it on the 10 o'clock news as you would expect. Then I switched over to BBC3 and the 60-second update girl butchered it. She didn't even try.

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Sky News have a Scottish reporter up there and this morning he was saying "Marc-humph-humph-humph-eth"

I stress this is nowhere near the significance of the greater story but with the press being there permanently for the last day or so you think they'd at least make an effort. I agree it's difficult if you've never seen, heard or said it before but there'll be plenty of people on hand to help them get it right.

Ma-ch-yn-ll-eth:

Ma, ch (mix the letter 'k' with 'th'), yn (un), ll (say 'th' with your tongue touching the roof of your mouth) eth. (as it sounds)

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Seriously in the measure of things worrying about how a towns name is pronounced is kinda ridiculous .

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Russ - you are a true instructor of pronouncing Welsh :) 'tis a tricky language.

I'm getting very tetchy now. I want that lass found NOW - no matter the outcome.
Well I'm obviously hoping for the best possible outcome.
I don't understand why the police are asking for volunteers to keep away. I think that they are up to score with the case and don't need any assistance.

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Sorry, you must have missed me say..

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I suspect it's because they may have an idea of what actually happened and understandably don't want any potential evidence contaminated. Plus it's treacherous land to navigate even in good weather but with the recent rain the last thing they want is to have to divert resources because someone fell down a mountain or in the river.

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The fact that they are looking for the land-rover does fill me with hope..

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That's what I was thinking.

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Why? Because someone may have spotted it, can see it or had to clean it up?

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Well she might possibly still be alive..in the land rover. Yes it's a straw but it's something to hang on to.

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In the press conference this morning they said the Land Rover was found in a repair shop.

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Sorry missed that?Not got the TV remote in my hand at present and him indoors is not interested.

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The guy was arrested yesterday at the side of the road just around the corner from the garage. He's being reported as a mechanic so it may have been his own premises. They said when he was found he was wearing camouflage clothing, I'm hoping that bears no relevance to the incident but I'm not too positive :(

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Not too positive here either :(

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They're now searching an empty building 2 miles up the river.

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Sky News Live Updates.....................

http://news.sky.com/story/992482/liv...l-jones-search

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The trouble is if this guys is innocent his life is ruined as he will always be pointed out, by people.

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He would have been arrested for a very good reason mate.

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So was Christopher Jeffries. Let's please remember what the law says about people who have not been accused or found guilty of anything.

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To be fair to me Chris, i was just pointing out that he would have been arrested for a very good reason I.E As a suspect. I didn`t say that i thought he was guilty or anything did i?.

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As of this precise moment, there is no 'if' about it. His legal status is clear, clean, innocent and unblemished. That can only change *if* he is charged, tried and convicted. *If* that process is set in motion, it would not be concluded for many months.

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As you were responding to a post that drew attention to the negative consequences of merely having been arrested, your post had the appearance to me of suggesting "there's no smoke without fire". I'm glad that is not the case.

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Would i?.................:angel::D

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So, as you say. if he is innocent.
if he didn't have anything to do with it.
if he isn't found guilty of anything.

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At the risk of repeating myself - there is no 'if he is innocent'. That sentence creates a presumption of guilt, requiring the 'if' to be proven.

As of right now, he *is* innocent.

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Ok. if he didn't do it. means that he didn't do it. at least until it can be proved that he did do it. because as of right now he didn't do it.

I don't think there's anything wrong with saying "if he is innocent of whatever" in relation to anything and anyone.
it just means "if he didn't do whatever"

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So why are his name and address all over the media and the web?

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Because they think he might have something to do with it.

he might be completely innocent.
they'll let us know soon enough I expect.

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The media are so desparate for an angle on this they haven't learnt from the last time a person was pulled in for a high profile case only to find he wasn't involved and had only, for reasons that remain a mystery, given conflicting statements to neighbors, media and the Police.

These days anominity wouldn't work due to social media and 24 hour news but until he is charged you can't say he's involved and until he is tried you can't say he's guilty.

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From what I heard. it was the police who wanted his arrest to be disclosed to the media, Derek.
to raise the awareness of it all or something.

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I hope for his sake he isn't the village idiot, again....

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All sorts of reasons, none of which provide any justification for eroding this man's basic right in law not to be treated as guilty until a jury of his peers has heard whatever evidence there is and has reached a verdict.

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My point is if he is proven 100% innocent there will still be people out there that will think he was involved, and he will be hounded out of jobs and homes.

I believe anybody arrested/questioned in relation to crimes against children should be given 100% annonimity.

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was probably released because they haven't found the girl and think someone's memory will be jogged by seeing his face, or a local will know something about his whereabouts. The police would be equally in trouble if it turned out this guy was somehow involved and his "human rights" prevented them from getting information that could have helped.

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Listening to the Jeremy Vine program today the police spokesman said they released his name because there was no point not saying anything because as soon as he was arrested it was all over Facebook posted by locals who witnessed his arrest

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Yeah that too I guess. However the police have made explicit appeals for information on him and where he has been.

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I honestly thought that he was just one of the local sex offender regestrees (is that a word ?) that the police always pick in these cases for questioning but the police do seem to be concentrating on him

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Sky news

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Mark Bridger has been arrested on suspicion of the murder of missing five-year-old April Jones, police have said.

http://news.sky.com/story/993620/apr...ation-launched

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Not surprised unfortunately. :(

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The Police must have some credible evidence to now announce that the suspect has been arrested for 'Suspicion of Murder'. Or that they are basically going off the time factor.

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:(

Sadly not surprising. I wonder what they've found to justify the re-arrest and if there will be enough to charge him before 5PM tomorrow.

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There is renewed search activity along the river bank, they've obviously got something new.

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I was so choked up reading about this on the BBC site again today. If he is guilty, he is going to end up in a cell, away from other prisoners more than likely, probably with other child sex offenders.

Where is the justice?

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...her-alive.html it appears the police have given up hope :(

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Sky News broke the story to two friends of the family live on air :erm:

http://order-order.com/2012/10/05/vi...jones-blunder/

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Tabloid TV at its worst. Insensitive muppets.

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state of the media and social network sites families are learning second now instead of first and its wrong

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That woman's an absolute idiot.

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she would have been told to do it

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That was absolutely FF'in outrageous.

I'm so angry.

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Me too, that was utterly ridiculous! And to ask "How are you feeling" was just unbelievable.

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They've asked all the volunteer searchers to 'stand down' and that it's a job for the professionals (paraphrasing) - does that mean they're searching for a body now?

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I think so.

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Classy. What a total insensitive clueless *bleep* that woman is.

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Thats just wrong. If they hadn't heard such news then she should of told them to get in touch with the family. Isn't that what always happens anyway even at work, 'your needed at home (insert name)' or something along the lines.

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Watching sky news now and wondering where Kay Burly has gone ,an urgent story elsewhere ? perhaps about old people and a cancelled cake bake :D

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If you watched the full clip, she didn't break the news to the woman live on air, she had just been told and asked to speak to Kay. jeez,

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She asked the woman "have you heard the news" and the woman said " yes, somebody just told me" as in somebody just that second had told her just beforeshe was about to go on camera.

She shouldn't have been interviewed, it's as simple as that.

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that full video is an update posted later . When I saw the video there was only the edited version