Area ready for 120mbit?
 

Got a call on saturday offering me 60mbit same price as got now, or can upgrade to 120mbit in october for extra £5 month.

Checked my US channels to see if any work had been done and nothing changed, and lo and behold here is my TBB graph for last 24 hours before this post, idle line.

[img]Download Failed (1)[/img]

Openreach now gave me a fixed date for 6 dec 2012 for FTTC it cant come soon enough to get away from this circus.

Re: Area ready for 120mbit?
 

Thats severe :td:

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I think was 1 hour of sky go in that early afternoon, but rest was relativlely idle.

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De-licious.

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there is a new US channel, I managed to find a way to get the vmng300 to swap over.

So a new US but no bonding yet.

Re: Area ready for 120mbit?
 

Care to share how you got it to swap over ?

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the vmng300 wont swap on power cycles. It will swap if it thinks the US channel is down.

I Left the coax making very poor contact to the modem for about 5 mins and then screwed it back in and it was on another channel. A completely new one I havent seen before.

Re: Area ready for 120mbit?
 

As im from leicester ;) i will give it a go

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that what i am doing with my SH 480 ;)
I find 2 more upstream channels but won't lock on it, no matter how many times i have tried
will start (fast) flash green then will lost and back search other channels so back to the 2 normal ones

Also with this way if you take out the coax (have it touching lightly the connector) and put back quick will change the downstream as well but no difference in traffic for me

Re: Area ready for 120mbit?
 

hahaha you a heavy user? could be you killing chrys' broadband :D

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Since they introduced the STM for the top packages I rarely download and when I do its either early in the morning or late at night. I have tried to get a channel swap from 25 but it doesnt seem to be working :(

Re: Area ready for 120mbit?
 

this new channel still rough 6-10pm today I seen but at least its a vast improvement over my usual one. Not looking forward to october knowing 120mbit is going live tho.

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looks like a torrenter has followed me on here now, got doubled average latency since the evening still ongoing to now 2am.

Re: Area ready for 120mbit?
 

don't bother with Virgin Media 120Mb - go to FTTC 80Mb down and 20Mb up (far better than Virgin)

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tbf, you have tried every other combination.....

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Have you seen the OR engineers on Hinckely road upgrading the cabs :) FTTC will be here very Soon! Cant wait! I will be moving over to BT as I now work for them ;)

Re: Area ready for 120mbit?
 

no, they havent done my cab yet I think.

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seems was a ton of congestion yesterday for 12 hours, then an outage, after the outage I am still on the new US channel but its clearly much higher utilised. In 6 days 120mbit users will be starting to be added.

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internet terrible today! getting less than 7mb on speedtest and can hardly load any sites. Tried full reboot still the same...congestion............

Re: Area ready for 120mbit?
 

That's because Virgin Media is rubbish!

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la la la la la

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/09/12.png

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that far better than virgin media lol

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it certainly is :D

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I am happy sky are doing 80/20 now it means I can go back to the easynet network. Just when openreach activate this area grrrr.

craig you have latency stats? curious if you intelreaved or not.

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https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2014/10/9.png
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2012/09/9.png

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bear in mind thats under pretty heavy load

and also im using the sky supplied router which isnt very good, once I figure out how to connect my Linksys E4200 up it should be better, 100mb ports and a crap router I dont think is capable of reaching 80mb. I sync at the full 80/20 I just cant reach more than 70 using this router

Re: Area ready for 120mbit?
 

remember on xDSL you have overheads included so you wont get 80mbit throughput on a 80mbit sync. 72mbit seems about right as I think its about 10%. VM is unusual against the trend that they add fluff on top to counter overheads.

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Fair enough, ive seen people get towards the 76 mark, thats more like what I was expecting, but hey hoe. Dont know what happened this morning though, at 5am:

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2012/09/4.png

Re: Area ready for 120mbit?
 

looks like an interleaving bump.

DLM seems very pro interleaving on VDSL :( seen so many graphs with it on.

But also if you were swapping router/rebooting it etc. then that would make it more likely.

Re: Area ready for 120mbit?
 

That's ADSL, not VDSL.

On VDSL 80Mbit "sync" is PTM 80Mbit data rate (basically, equiv. Ethernet rate)

BT further caps this down to 77.32Mbit via their IP profile, Sky do not so you can get 79+

The most you'll get (minus IP overheads, i.e. in a crappy flash-based webapp) in a speedtest is about 75.5-76.0Mb on BT (hence why it's marketed as "Up to 76Mb"), and about 78-79Mb on Sky.

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I don't see what happened at 5am, how much did it go up by?

I've seen quite a few lines with interleaving and INP in one direction only, and it doesn't directly correlate with length of line or SNR. For example I've had no interleaving on my line for 6 months (except when I was messing with the cabling), and I have ~8.5dB SNRM and my line is running at 90% capacity. One of my friends has 8ms DS interleaving despite having a 3x shorter line, 25dB SNRM, and only running at 55% capacity.

Re: Area ready for 120mbit?
 

This is correct BT,TalkTalk & other isps do have FTTC ip profile rate of 96.78% with DLM.

But, for Sky FTTC, no ip profile rate or DLM at all, totally 100% on line speed and totally 100% no traffic management, and truely 100% UNLIMITED! No FUP ever!

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Yeah looks like one step of one way interleaving (7/8ms). Interleaving both ways would be +15/16ms. Oddly again my line with 8dB SNRM has an uptime of 60 days while my mate's line with a SNRM of 25 resets every two or three...

Re: Area ready for 120mbit?
 

Strange seeing as im right by the cabinet, about 50 metres of copper

Re: Area ready for 120mbit?
 

Pretty much the same for my mate in Aberdeen, 40m straight line from the cab, about 60-70m copper, but line keeps resetting whereas my ~350m equivalent line never does...

Re: Area ready for 120mbit?
 

you also need to be lucky on noise interference etc. as well.

Me and my friend both had equal attenuation and also almost equal attainable sync rates.

There was 2 key differences tho.

His line was underground right up to the property, mine was overhead on pole.
I am in a dense city area, he was in a business park in the middle of nowhere.

His line performed consistently had little crc errors, drops etc. and ran fine on a low SNRM on fast path, it also had less fluctuation during the night.

Mine had noise bursts during office hours, lost a lot of SNR at night making it require extra SNR or interleaving for stability or even both. I could keep it on fast path with SRA. Also even when things seemed healthy SNR wise, I had a constant flow of CRC errors 24/7. Through experimentation when I had full control of SNRM on my router the crc errors only stopped with a 24db SNRM. Even then they didnt completely stopped but were comparable to others with a 6db SNRM.

So even when I get FTTC I may still get issues.

Re: Area ready for 120mbit?
 

well im about 50m from the cab, and as I mentioned here

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/63...l#post35479752

im getting frequent disconnections

Re: Area ready for 120mbit?
 

noise interference.

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Cant see how, I had a new phone line installed

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https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/10/77.png

Oppa Gangnam Style

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https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/10/76.png

Im the cat with the bass and drum... going around like BOM BOM BOM!! :D

Re: Area ready for 120mbit?
 

new isnt brand new.

and you can quite easily get interference.

other things it could be are modem fault, or cabinet equipment fault, cable fault.

just got my samknows broadband report.

packetloss

0.51%
Average

0.00% Min 12am, Sat
1st Sep

58.01% Max 12pm, Tue
18th Sep

latency

19.13ms
Average

0.77ms Min 4pm, Tue
11th Sep

1652.92ms Max 8pm, Sun
16th Sep


upstream

1.91Mbps
Average 0.73Mbps

Min 8pm, Sun
9th Sep

2.28Mbps Max 9pm, Wed
12th Sep

downstream

21.79Mbps
Average 0.81Mbps

Min 7pm, Wed
26th Sep

34.18Mbps Max 10am, Wed
5th Sep

Re: Area ready for 120mbit?
 

He fitted a brand new line from my house