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Berbatov 12-09-2012 21:21

DDoS Protection
 
How do you stay protected from a DDoS attack, if you have a Virgin Media Superhub?


Which Security options do you enable on the Superhub?



Thanks

craigj2k12 12-09-2012 23:58

Re: DDoS Protection
 
untick respond to ping requests

Berbatov 13-09-2012 00:05

Re: DDoS Protection
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by craigj2k12 (Post 35473816)
untick respond to ping requests

Do I uncheck this:


WAN Ping Respond:-

- Respond to ICMP echo requests sent to WAN IP



?

craigj2k12 13-09-2012 01:36

Re: DDoS Protection
 
yeah uncheck that, that means it wont repond, but doesnt "protect" you as such

Berbatov 13-09-2012 01:45

Re: DDoS Protection
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by craigj2k12 (Post 35473823)
yeah uncheck that, that means it wont repond, but doesnt "protect" you as such


To be protect from DDoS, you have to get VPN???


Thanks

craigj2k12 13-09-2012 02:08

Re: DDoS Protection
 
Disabling ping response is about all you can do, what exactly is your situation? are you being DDoSed?

Berbatov 13-09-2012 02:13

Re: DDoS Protection
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by craigj2k12 (Post 35473825)
Disabling ping response is about all you can do, what exactly is your situation? are you being DDoSed?


No, I just wanted to know how you would protect yourself if someone DDoS attacked your IP address...

kwikbreaks 13-09-2012 07:31

Re: DDoS Protection
 
Just why would you expect a home IP address to suffer a DDoS?

General Maximus 13-09-2012 07:39

Re: DDoS Protection
 
he works for MI5 and has many enemies, foreign and domestic

qasdfdsaq 13-09-2012 09:43

Re: DDoS Protection
 
The only way to protect against a DDoS is to have your ISP null-route your IP at the border.

Absolutely nothing you could ever do on a Superhub will give you any sort of protection whatsoever

craigj2k12 13-09-2012 14:46

Re: DDoS Protection
 
Not responding to pings would most likely make the attacker give up though

kwikbreaks 13-09-2012 16:40

Re: DDoS Protection
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35473871)
Absolutely nothing you could ever do on a Superhub will give you any sort of protection whatsoever

Some here would have you washing your mouth out with soap for casting such aspersions against the bestest hub in the known universe.

Hugh 13-09-2012 17:06

Re: DDoS Protection
 
No, they wouldn't - but well done on the off-topic ad hominem aspersion......

Hom3r 13-09-2012 22:04

Re: DDoS Protection
 
My Asus Router has a DDoS attack protection.

craigj2k12 14-09-2012 02:05

Re: DDoS Protection
 
So does tomato firmware, it just drops packets if it gets a suspicious amount of ping requests, something my router was doing when I was running ping monitors from 2 servers as well as thinkbroadbands monitor, it was showing 10% packet loss on each

kwikbreaks 14-09-2012 08:39

Re: DDoS Protection
 
I doubt either would be very effective as a proper DDoS would be hitting the target with so many unwanted packets they would swamp wanted ones even on a 100Mbps connection.

I still maintain that a home connection is very unlikely target. A botnet is a very valuable resource and wouldn't be wasted on such a target. A script kiddy fails on the first D of DDoS but could conceivably cause some inconvenience if they had enough bandwidth at their disposal but once again why would they bother?

qasdfdsaq 14-09-2012 13:54

Re: DDoS Protection
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kwikbreaks (Post 35474172)
I doubt either would be very effective as a proper DDoS would be hitting the target with so many unwanted packets they would swamp wanted ones even on a 100Mbps connection.

Indeed. A ping flood is very amateur these days.

The vulnerable hop on a home connection is the slow WAN link between your modem and the ISP's core and your home router (Superhub or otherwise) will have absolutely no control over the data coming down that link and therefore afford absolutely no protection against (D)DoS attacks.

The only way to stop a DoS affecting your link is to stop the data going down your link to begin with, which can only happen at the ISP end.

Hom3r 14-09-2012 20:12

Re: DDoS Protection
 
Is the average user likely to get a DDOS?

AndyCalling 14-09-2012 20:34

Re: DDoS Protection
 
Theoretically, you stop responding to pings over the wan and you enable the 'firewall' on the Shub. In reality these things will not help you one iota and will likely end up restricting you more than they do a potential attacker.

You are unlikely to ever see a real DDoS attack. If you are at risk of such, you need to look in to far more heafty measures than the Shub will ever offer.

Jayster 14-09-2012 21:12

Re: DDoS Protection
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35474476)
Is the average user likely to get a DDOS?

No

qasdfdsaq 17-09-2012 14:04

Re: DDoS Protection
 
I've DDoS'ed a few hundred average users...

kwikbreaks 17-09-2012 20:36

Re: DDoS Protection
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35475056)
I've DDoS'ed a few hundred average users...

I think it's a criminal offence these days so best to keep that to yourself IMO.

qasdfdsaq 17-09-2012 22:05

Re: DDoS Protection
 
Mitigating circumstances ;)

Chrysalis 18-09-2012 12:26

Re: DDoS Protection
 
Blocking pings is pretty unlikely to have any noticeable affect on a ddos attack other than to make it harder for the attacker to determine the affect of his attacks on you.


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