Virgin TV Anywhere arriving in Autumn 2012
 

Virgin Media has formally announced its Virgin TV Anywhere service, with an oline and iPad service that includes TiVo like services, on-demand content and remote recording arriving in the Autumn and an Android version in early 2013.

There;s been plenty of talk about the Virgin Anywhere service, and it will inevitably draw comparison with Sky Go and Sky's apps for iPad.

However, the Virgin TV Anywhere service does have some rather nifty strings to its bow – most of them based heavily on its TiVo service.
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For customers without the service there is limited online TiVo like recommendations, live TV and significant amounts of on-demand content.

But the real winners are the TiVo customers who not only get the PC-based TiVo functionality but also a fully featured tablet app which will double as a remote control.

"Want to be in control of your TV? Virgin TV Anywhere puts the power in our customers hands," emotes the company.

"Virgin Media: TiVo customers can manage their TV planning wherever they want, be it online or via our new app allowing them to search for shows, discover new content, set recordings and manage all their favourite content stored on their TiVo box.

"A brilliant 'App' exclusively for TiVo customers available on Apple iPad and other devices providing live channels, access to record shows, to tinker with their TiVo box from anywhere and even use at home as a remote control, explains Virgin Media.

"Customers can do all the usual things, like pause, rewind and fast forward through shows, but with just the flick of their screen."

The iPad app is coming in Autumn – so probably not in the next few weeks – and there is an expectation that the Android version will land in the early part of 2013.

We'll be checking out the service as soon as we possibly can, and comparing it to its UK market rival from Sky.

But for now - here are the first pictures of the service.

http://www.techradar.com/news/televi...n-2012-1095475

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Im guessing that Skys channels will not be on there for people to watch live. I think if they do Sky wont be happy

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it will be good if they have nice Hi Def streams and even better if it does not count towards your traffic management quota

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Why is android later?

Surely its easier to get the app put on Android first?

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Its easier to program for iOS instead of Android as iOS is on Apple devices only so its all the sam OS. When its Android they have to program for the different versions and different devices

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Well the US TiVo app has been out for a long time so VM will have been testing their version for a while. Also all iOS devices run the same OS with an iPhone, iPad and iPod touch all having standard screen sizes and resolutions.

Where as the US TiVo android app hasn't been out for long and android is a more complicated beast as there ae hundreds off devices out there all with different screen sizes and resolutions and also different processors and memory.

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Why easier?

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i wish it could stream my recordings to my phobe, that would be ultimate app

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Still no official word on how the devices will communicate with each other. Does the TiVo box need networking? Or will the app commands go via the Internet and back down to the Tivo? Seems unlikely - but there has been no mention of any additional hardware or wired home networking being required so far.

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As TiVo in the US has just launched an add on bit of hardware and can now stream recordings, I would think that VM will eventually add that feature.

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You will need your TiVo connected to your network in order to use the app as a remote.

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I'm sure I've seen it suggested that some of the delay may have been due to finding a way to network the TiVo through its existing connection to the Virgin network, rather than having to connect it to a home hub???

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The big question for me is whether sky channels (specifically skysports) will be available to stream live through the website.

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Is that from an official source? I agree it is the most likely outcome, but haven't Virgin said something along the lines that they were investigating a better solution than this? This was given as one of the reasons for the delay in releasing the app.

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You don't need you TiVo networked to use the app, you need it networked to use it as a remote.

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So, I will need to plug the TiVo in to my router. Thus requiring either a homeplug or long lead depending on where I want to use it? Why can't they just supply a wireless dongle to plug in to the back, or better yet why was bluetooth not included in the first place? Smacks of a lack of foresight.

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Because wireless and bluetooth are rubbish for streaming video content. That would also make the box more expensive to manufacture.

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For remote control I'd say there are several options :-

Use your normal internet connection and then back to the TIVo via its built in internet connection although the lag will be horrendous

VM supply a wireless dongle perhaps at extra cost (like Sky does for Anytime+)

VM recommend a home plug solution

VM just say plug it into your router via a cable

Sky don't appear to have any problems in suggesting to their customers to plug the Sky box into the router to get Sky Anytime+ (they have been running TV ads telling their customers to do this) so I can't see any problem with VM doing the same

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Bluetooth yes, wireless no. How do you think you get video to an iPad to start with?

It is a moot point though, because it is only needed for the remote control functions.

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Christ they can't win, whatever they do it's not good enough for some people

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Have you tried streaming massive HD files to your ipad at the other end of your house from the Tivo? Having both ends be wireless will cause the majority of customers problems.

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Definitely! Is this development also likely to see multi room streaming enabled too?

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:clap:

Bang on

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This for me personally is an issue and therefore I will vent my opinion. Same as having a very text input driven gui, and not having a bloody qwerty controller to compliment it like they do in the US.

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On who's part. Your network in your house is your responsibility and if you want to use this FREE service then you should make sure that YOUR side of the network is ready.

Smacks of complaining for complaining sake if you ask me.

:rolleyes:

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Stick a BT dongle in the USB port maybe?

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So buy one. It works fine. Or a wireless keyboard.

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I thought the whole point of them delaying the remote side of the app for over a year was for them to come up with a solution that didn't require you to plug it into a router.

I don't have a problem with plugging mine in as it is right next to the router. But VM seemed to be acting like it was the end of the world a few months ago and there was no way their customers would be able to cope with connecting it to a router. Have the customers become more intelligent over the last couple of months, what has changed?

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There is always the peanut apps..... The TV Anywhere app has a qwerty too.

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There are two solution rather than the one there was. If you put the time into sorting your network out you get more functionality. The side affect is you don't need to be at home to use the app anymore, apart from using it as a remote that doesn't make sense if you out the house anyway.

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Listen, it is not FREE. I am paying a subscription ( VIP ) and this is part of the service. Sky have also had this for years in with the cost of subscription, Virgin are playing catchup. It has sod all to do with my network being ready, Virgin should supply the dongle, does not matter if there is a small cost it should be supplied. Also seriously, it not as if it is something I am asking for that TiVO do not already supply. They also supply a qwerty keypad. If the text input used predictive text like Nokia then there would be an issue.

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I don't consider the TiVo to be mainly text driven, when i do need text the number pad is fine. Can't wait for the app to be launched streaming will be great.

J

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You can suggest what you like, i am sticking with what i said as that's my opinion.

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Sorry but, no. It is not "part of the service" until it launches. At that point, if you don't start paying any more than you are currently paying, then it is free. Or, at least, will be "included in the subscription". Same difference :)

So it's free with Sky then? So why isn't it free with VM? :confused:

Tivo may do. VM do not. It also costs extra. So not the best argument ;)

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:):):) Couldn't agree more.

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Can't really comment until I see what channels they have signed up.

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Yes indeed it will be very revealing what channels will be on offer for us.

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If I don't pay for the subscription I do not get the service, it is not FREE! I certainly would not pay for something I could get included with a subscription with Sky. I am however happy to pay for a wireless dongle and qwerty keypad at a reasonable one off cost.

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Hence my comment about "included in the price of the sub." :)

Which you won't have to as it will be "included in the price of the sub.". However, given that the price of the sub won't go up when the feature is added does kinda mean that it is, technically, free.

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To use one of your fav phrases - proof please

Cheers

Grim

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Your proof that it will

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I'm not bothered either way. I don't have any Apple products and doubt I ever will. My phone is an Android, but I went out of my way to buy one with a small screen so it wouldn't be the best viewing experience.

I wasn't saying the price would go up, down or sideways when TV Anywhere arrives but I'm interested to know where Carl gets the information from to make such a definitive statement.

Cheers

Grim

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Ah, but it's the person who makes the original atatement that, when asked, needs to offer proof :D

I haven't a clue which it is. I suspect free.

But why do people waste time challenging Carl? Surely you all know that in Carl's eyes, VM and Tivo can do nothing wrong!

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I like the bit where despite the fact they sell Windows Phones they don't release an app for it.

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Knew I should have qualified that. I am just assuming it won't :)

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News to me seeing as I've often agreed with many complaints about VM on here :rolleyes:

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Hmmm. Going to reserve judgement for when it comes out. Need to see what channels are on there etc. I do have experience of The Sky Mobile app and its pretty good for when you're out and about. But if there's a TiVo remote control on this one then it's clearly aimed for when you're in or out. Not sure why I'd use the Sky Mobile App if I was in front of a TV with Sky on it. So this is going to be interesting.

Although I can't see all arguments for whether it's free or not and what that means, it does seem to me that companies are bundling things in under existing charges to try and tie more customers in. E.G. Sky mobile App is 'free' to Sky customers. 'F1' is free to Sky Sports subscribers. Clearly these things aren't free, they're just packaged in as part of the money you pay. I'd love free Sky F1 if anyone knows where I can get it without having to pay £25 a month.

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jeeeez the app hasn't been officially released yet and already the vultures are picking at the bones!

Wait and see you might actually be pleasantly surprised.

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Vm screw up most new products that they launch. We end up beta testing it for months or years until it works right, prime examples being the superhub and tivo. I doubt this app will be any different at all.

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If VM were to give every customer a £5.00 note there would be those who would complain it was not hand delivered :rolleyes:

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l think you will find that most of Virgin's products work near enough fine from launch but there will always be a few teething problems to start off with because as with most big companies nothing is 100% perfect to start off with but alas the doomsayers will criticise no matter what it seems and thats even before its been released..

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To go back to the original news article in what hi-fi magazine where this was announced their News Editor Joe Cox sumarises (and this is paraphrased) "Content is King, VM TV Anywhere service will need to be able to offer the premium SKY channels to have chance of rivalling SKY go and being considered a success" Now if Sky are prepared to withold a series about the British, they aint gonna let us watch Liverpool v Man Utd on the go are they?

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Don't know about the SH (mine seems fine) but there's never been anything "beta" about the Tivo and it seems to me that it's only the people who either don't have it, or have had it but couldn't use it, that spout that nonsense :(

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Hi

just read this thread - very interesting !

do we have any hard info about

1. whether & which 'live' channels will be broadcast

2. Whether Skysports will be broadcast

RJ

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No and No

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So when are we likely to know Ben?.

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I'd expect when the product is officially launched

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And one suspects that will be in late November/early December as when they say Autumn its usually towards the end of that period.

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Actually there are teams of people testing this stuff at VM, TiVo and special teams of customers that test in there free time so that these products can be the best they can at launch, you're not doing that. If Vm release any old rubbish why did they withhold the iOS app until it was in a better place so that the customers would have the best experience at launch?

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Now then clint. No need to start bringing common sense and logic into it :D

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Whoops! I forgot I was posting on the Internet Carl! :dunce:

I will agree though that something went horribly wrong with the superhub!

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Yeah, the testers didn't live next door to someone with a cheap microwave.

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Set to arrive in Autumn 2012, TV Anywhere will give customers Ipad app and web browser access to on-demand content and live TV.

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/...allenge-sky-go



Virgin told us that it expects to have around 30 live channels available from launch across genres such as sports, kids, news and entertainment.

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Screenshots I've seen appear to reveal 7 of the channels:

BBC 1
BBC 2
ITV
Channel 4
Channel 5
BBC 3
BBC 4

I'm guessing the channels are going to be the core Freeview stations minus all +1 variants, all SKY owned channels and all channels not carried by Virgin such as Al Jazeera and the Food Network. Once you take away all of the above you're pretty much left with 30 channels.

1. BBC 1
2. BBC 2
3. ITV
4. Channel 4
5. Channel 5
6. ITV 2
7. BBC Three
8. BBC Four
9. ITV 3
10. Yesterday
11. More 4
12. Dave
13. ITV 4
14. E4
15. Film 4
16. 5 USA
17. 5*
18. Quest
19. 4/7
20. 4 Music
21. Viva
22. BBC News
23. BBC Parliament
24. Really
25. CBeebies
26. CITV
27. ITV HD
28. 4 HD
29. BBC HD
30. BBC One HD

If I'm getting this service included in my package at no extra cost then great! It's not as good as SKY Go however it's miles better than what I have at the moment which is nothing. I must admit TV on the go is not a big selling point for me personally. In fact it's a service I'll probably hardly use however it adds more value to my subscription, which is something nobody can argue with.

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If that is the case Chad then it looks like yet again that we will be getting a inferior version of what Sky currently offer with no Sky Sports or Movies to boot.

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The Register did mention Sports though. Any ideas?

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VM have no bargaining chips there is no content they can withhold to even the playing field in this regards they will always be playing second fiddle.

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Agreed, I'm just hoping that it also means that multiroom streaming is close, which will be really useful to me.

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Agreed. BT have seen the light on that one.

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I agree however it's better than what Talk Talk, BT Vision, Smallworld Cable, Youview and Freesat offer their customers. Virgin have to be applauded for that.

Remember we will have access to TV on demand and catch up tv too. We will also be able to access records on our TiVo boxes too. The interesting thing will be can we watch something on the go whilst it's recording? So if I'm recording Man Utd Vs. Man City on SKY Sports can I watch the recording as it's happening. Sure it still won't be live but I'll maybe only 10 or 15 seconds behind the live broadcast.

The original article in What HiFi did suggest the channels you can access depend on your package. So maybe 30 channels are the basic package and people on XL will be able to watch the likes of ESPN and the Discovery Channel.

Away to watch the Scotland game. C'mon Scotland!!!!!

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BBC , ITV , C4 , C5 content can already be streamed on tablet/smartphone on the respective catchup apps :confused: are these defo included.

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Until Virgin release full details of Virgin Anywhere, only Virgin know for sure what will be included.

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With the BBC I Player now showing live shows I was looking back at what VM had signed and wonder if any of these would be on the TV Anywhere?

http://mediacentre.virginmedia.com/S...-deal-157.aspx

http://mediacentre.virginmedia.com/S...onito-181.aspx

http://mediacentre.virginmedia.com/S...ement-1af.aspx

http://mediacentre.virginmedia.com/S...ution-1c5.aspx

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Good point Devil , I'm sure with 30 channels announced there will be a decent choice of pay TV channels. My parents have an iPad so looking forward to trying this.

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To be fair, Sky Sports and Movies content (along with a fair bit more) is available via www.virginmedia.com/player, which looks like it will be relaunching as part of TV Anywhere

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Is that live streaming or On Demand Ben ?

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Currently On Demand, but by what has been said within the What HiFi and other articles, it will also include live TV when TV Anywhere comes along

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CBS (can't remember which) and True Entertainment is all I can remember from the Virgin Player iPad Beta screenshot from like a year ago.

I would also imagine they got a deal for this when they sold UKTV so there is 10 channels just from them.

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Eurosport and/or ESPN probably.

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It will be Eurosport, this is already available on many smart TV's, Blu-ray players and Hand held unit's, if you add this to iplayer and the like we arn't going to be able to access much more than a lot of us already can.

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I've seen nothing to suggest that the Anywhere service will allow recordings will be streamed, only live TV.

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The main difference will be everything available in one slick interface with the ability to watch recordings directly from the TiVo box you have at home. Personally I'd rather have Virgin Anywhere ahead of having to use various apps over a series of devices.

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Deleted: My post didn't make a lot of sense :D

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that is only in a later update isn't it ? That would require the TIVO stream wouldn't it ?

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http://www.whathifi.com/news/virgin-...imate-tivo-app

"Also on the to-do list is the ability to watch your own personal recordings stored on your TiVo box on your tablet or smartphone. Clever."

What HiFi where the first to have access to Virgin Anywhere and broke the story a couple of weeks ago. Whilst watching recordings won't be available from launch, it seems to be one of many updates we should see in 2013.

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Okay I've done some more digging and I'm a little confused about the info to hand.

The Inquirer states:

"Virgin told us that it expects to have around 30 live channels available from launch across genres such as sports, kids, news and entertainment."

However T3.Com gives an alternative version:

"Boasting 2,000 hours of on-demand content across 30 channels"

http://www.t3.com/news/virgin-media-...in-tv-anywhere

The T3 article suggests there will be 2000 hours of content over 30 on demand channels plus linear channels too. This seems to make sense because Virgin do offer 30 channels of on demand material if you are on their top package:

1. BBC
2. ITV Net Player
3. 4 on Demand
4. US Boxsets
5. Warner TV
6. Aardman Animations
7. Comedy Central
8. CBS Reality
9. E! Entertainment
10. FX
11. CBS Action
12. Discovery
13. National Geographic
14. Bio
15. History
16. Crime & Investigation
17. PBS America
18. MTV
19. Extreme Sports Channel
20. ESPN Classic
21. Military History
22. CNBC
23. Baby Channel
24. SKY 1
25. SKY Living
26. SKY Arts
27. SKY News
28. SKY Movies
29. SKY Sports
30. Virgin Central

So what is really launching?

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Stop trying to copy me:)

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Yep, CNET just says their looking into it:
http://crave.cnet.co.uk/homecinema/v...ival-50009126/

Its odd, the point of PVRs is to free viewers from the broadcasters TV schedules, but with both Sky Go and the initial version of Virgin TV Anywhere, you're locked back into being a slave to those schedules for streaming (especially if the content you want to stream isn't on VOD).

The whole 'stream recordings' feature can't come soon enough, and will hopefully open the door for box-to-box streaming too.

As for what's available, I'm sure its 3-ish linear TV channels to stream + over 2000 hours of VOD.

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I guess streaming live TV and VOD are easy i would suspect that your Tivo is not actually involved in either of these two and the streams come direct from Virgin via your internet connection.

To stream what you have recorded would need direct access to your box and I suspect this is where things get complicated like needing your Tivo to be networked, I believe in the version that is being prepped for you only need to network your Tivo if you want to use the app as a remote.

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What has Sky had for "years"?

Sky Go for iOS first launched in July 2011 (just over one year ago), with an initially extremely limited selection of live TV to stream (this has since grown, gradually).

It was updated in November of last year with on-demand films, and updated again in July of this year with more on-demand content.

The Sky+ app for the iPad was updated in August of this year to allow the app to be used as a remote control and also enable full access to the Planner to allow recordings to be scheduled and managed. Both of those features require the Sky box to be on the same network as the iPad, via Ethernet or WiFi (£60 dongle from Sky, or a cheaper 3rd party bridge). These features are currently only available to Sky customers who have the latest Amstrad Sky+HD boxes, as the new EPG is required.


The only thing Sky has had "for years" is the basic Remote Record.

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Sky Mobile TV was there long before Sky Go.

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Only the year before from what I can find, plus it only offered the Sport channels.

Being able to watch general entertainment channels live or on-demand on a mobile device is still quite recent.

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Hm, I always thought it was on the N95, maybe I'm wrong.

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This is basically a re-launch of Virgin Media Player plus TiVo commander and the promise of some exciting updates which will be reliant on rights issues being resolved, then?

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If I had a small house to bet, I'd bet on these 30:

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All well and good but rights issues can drag on for a eternity without being resolved and as we know dates on updates seem to slip all the time.

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It requires the TIVO stream to transcode the video for viewing on mobile devices I believe.

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The TiVo has four hardware decoders but no encoding hardware, that's what the TiVo Stream is.

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I remember having a Sky Mobile app on my N95 that was like a basic version of the current Sky+ iOS app, with an EPG and Remote Record.

Can't remember there ever being live or on-demand streaming on it, though... And if there was, it would have been a very limited selection of premium channels.

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If Orange can offer Sky Sports streaming as part of their Panther tariffs, I'm sure Virgin will be able to as well

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You won't be far wrong there James one suspects.

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Seems your not the only one with that opinion
http://www.seenit.co.uk/how-sky-and-...2560/#comments

I guess all companies have had to change their offerings with the introduction of Youview , Netflix , Freesat etc.

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Well everybody is entitled to their own opinion MM but it does not mean that the majority share the same opinion.:)

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If its a long term win for Sky whilst Virgin Media are left undercutting themselves in order to retain business, doesn't that translate into a long term win for Virgin's customers who will see their costs going down?

I can't help but think that the piece on seenit is quite biased. They suggest that TiVo "lacking on a number of fronts" on the basis of a review they did over a year ago and before 2 major updates. The review includes such gems as the patently false "I delete these suggested episodes unwatched but still it records more. I want it to stop but there seems no way to make it."

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As I understand it, VM sold their channels because they wanted to concentrate resources on what they considered their USP; fast fibre BB. That was fine when VM were the only option for fibre BB, but that is no longer the case.

Content has now becoming very important and VM don't have any. I was uneasy about it when VM sold off their channels and when they sold their stake in UK TV, and I think they have left themselves in a vunerable position, now only getting what Sky allow with regards to new content. To be fair, VM only had one channels's worth of content, but Sky did want that content and the Living branded channel.

I suspect the guy who wrote that article is a bit anti VM, but he's right in that Sky made a smart move launching Now TV and an even smarter move including it on Youview. He's also right that VM are at a dissadvantage in not owning content rights; BT have learnt that lesson and done something about it.

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Virgin have loads of content. There are thousands of hours of stuff to watch on demand and they carry almost every channel anybody really wants, with the obvious exception.

I know now TV has been confirmed for the talk talk you view, but is there any word on the Bt one yet, or even when it will launch? Bt are falling behind even in terms of their own product!