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denphone 28-08-2012 18:09

Which Virgin STB do you prefer
 
Which Virgin STB do you prefer as it would be interesting to know what peoples thoughts are on the matter as there seems to be differing opinions about the pro's and con's of each box.

carlwaring 28-08-2012 18:23

Re: Which Virgin STB do you prefer
 
I can sort-of understand how some people might not "get" Tivo, or think it's not for them. Perhaps if you don't watch much TV, of any type at all (ie broadcast or OD) then perhaps you might wonder what Tivo can do for you.

However, surely even someone who doesn't watch much telly would have a favourite actor or director and so might find the Wishlist functionality useful. Though whether that alone is worth a fiver a month is also debatable.

toady 28-08-2012 18:43

Re: Which Virgin STB do you prefer
 
TIVO is the cleverest box that VM do

The old V+ was pretty good but frustrating always having to be careful what I wanted to record due to the lack of space

Being able to set up wishlists so that I don't have to keep a close eye on the listings

v0id 28-08-2012 21:44

Re: Which Virgin STB do you prefer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35468210)
I can sort-of understand how some people might not "get" Tivo, or think it's not for them. Perhaps if you don't watch much TV, of any type at all (ie broadcast or OD) then perhaps you might wonder what Tivo can do for you.

However, surely even someone who doesn't watch much telly would have a favourite actor or director and so might find the Wishlist functionality useful. Though whether that alone is worth a fiver a month is also debatable.

For someone who just wants to watch linear TV and maybe record a few shows, the V+ is by far and wide the simplest solution.

carlwaring 28-08-2012 21:49

Re: Which Virgin STB do you prefer
 
Which is what I said :)

However, I still stand by the fact that the features of the Tivo (find next-available recording, ability to record up to three things at once, wishlists) are still useful for someone who doesn't watch a lot of TV.

sebastion 28-08-2012 22:22

Re: Which Virgin STB do you prefer
 
In my household we have 2 Tivos and a Samsung V+.
After using the Tivos for 6 months i now find the Samsung V+ losing its appeal.

andy_m 28-08-2012 22:39

Re: Which Virgin STB do you prefer
 
Quite apart from the fact that I love my TiVo, I think the v+ is an awful box. When I first moved from Sky I spent quite a while thinking I'd made a bit of a mistake solely because of the dreadful stb. Clunky, awful ui, slow, poor recording capacity. If everyone on this thread had come from Sky+ hd to V+ hd then there wouldn't even be a discussion about it, appalling piece of kit.

essjay 28-08-2012 22:49

Re: Which Virgin STB do you prefer
 
Where is the Pace 1000 ?

alexcopeland 29-08-2012 05:53

Re: Which Virgin STB do you prefer
 
TiVo all the way. Fast and responsive. Bags off space to store recorded shows. Searching for shows is a breeze. And we all love the you tube app for a few funny videos with the kids.

carlwaring 29-08-2012 06:28

Re: Which Virgin STB do you prefer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by essjay (Post 35468316)
Where is the Pace 1000 ?

Long dead and buried, I suspect :)

(That was my very first digital cable box back in the days of Telewest!)

spiderplant 29-08-2012 08:34

Re: Which Virgin STB do you prefer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35468341)
Long dead and buried, I suspect :)

There are still plenty going strong.

Samsung 2100 gets my vote for now. I'll form an opinion on the TiVos over the next few years. These things shouldn't be rushed. :)

Ken W 29-08-2012 10:32

Re: Which Virgin STB do you prefer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by essjay (Post 35468316)
Where is the Pace 1000 ?

That was my first box installed by Comtel many years ago.
I now have a TIVO 500gig.

andrewlutonuk 29-08-2012 13:51

Re: Which Virgin STB do you prefer
 
I voted for V+

Have I had Pace 4000 and a Samsung 2110

I have not had a Tivo yet so i voted for a V+

andrewlutonuk

DaMac 29-08-2012 16:09

Re: Which Virgin STB do you prefer
 
The Samsung V+ is Mega stylish, a real eye opener, Picture quality is real good as well on my ISF calibrated TV, we watch mainly Movies and Live Sports plus Corrie and Emmerdale, TiVo is going to be wasted on us because even if we wanted to expand our TV watching horizons, our current Life Schedule just wouldn't allow it.

andy_m 29-08-2012 16:30

Re: Which Virgin STB do you prefer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewlutonuk (Post 35468467)
I voted for V+

Have I had Pace 4000 and a Samsung 2110

I have not had a Tivo yet so i voted for a V+

andrewlutonuk

And therein lies the problem with this poll, not everybody has experience of all the options. Even so, its currently running at about 77% for TiVo, which is a huge majority. I suspect if you limited the respondents to only those who have used all of the options the percentage would be even higher. I doubt this will end the arguments, but in general people prefer TiVo.

toady 29-08-2012 16:42

Re: Which Virgin STB do you prefer
 
I've used a PACE 1000, Samsung SMT-2100, SA V+, the Cisco VHD box and still find the TIVO the best of the lot

MalteseFalcon 29-08-2012 16:47

Re: Which Virgin STB do you prefer
 
Personally, I would like to take the speed of the V+ box and combine it with the TiVo box and that would be the perfect box for me. Speed of menus and changing channel is the only negative for me on TiVo so far.

Media Boy UK 29-08-2012 16:56

Re: Which Virgin STB do you prefer
 
Good old V+ HD box is the best one.

toady 29-08-2012 17:59

Re: Which Virgin STB do you prefer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkC1984 (Post 35468546)
Personally, I would like to take the speed of the V+ box and combine it with the TiVo box

Unless your experience of a V+ was the SA version, then TIVO would be the fastest :)

MalteseFalcon 29-08-2012 18:27

Re: Which Virgin STB do you prefer
 
I used a Samsung V+ box yes, I just like channels to change instantly instead of the mini delay on TiVo box.

bonzoe 29-08-2012 18:36

Re: Which Virgin STB do you prefer
 
Best I have is V+, can't comment on Tivo.............

denphone 29-08-2012 18:38

Re: Which Virgin STB do you prefer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkC1984 (Post 35468597)
I used a Samsung V+ box yes, I just like channels to change instantly instead of the mini delay on TiVo box.

But remember Mark the TiVo is far far more Graphics heavy thus it takes that tiny bit longer.

GrimUpNorth 29-08-2012 18:56

Re: Which Virgin STB do you prefer
 
Afraid I voted None Of Them as there wasn't an option for Don't Care As Long As It Records.

I know it's been discussed to death but a V+ with a bigger hard drive would have done me. If I owned the box I would have upgraded my V+. Around the time of the Tivo launch I could have upgraded the V+ to 2TB for less than the cost of a 1TB Tivo.

Cheers

Grim

muppetman11 29-08-2012 18:59

Re: Which Virgin STB do you prefer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth (Post 35468607)
Afraid I voted None Of Them as there wasn't an option for Don't Care As Long As It Records.

Cheers

Grim

Pretty much what 90% of the UK public would vote.:)

essjay 29-08-2012 19:23

Re: Which Virgin STB do you prefer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35468341)
Long dead and buried, I suspect :)

(That was my very first digital cable box back in the days of Telewest!)

Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35468366)
There are still plenty going strong.

:)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken W (Post 35468397)
That was my first box installed by Comtel many years ago.
I now have a TIVO 500gig.

So I have managed to find out how many are still in circulation who wants to guess ?

nstokes 29-08-2012 19:23

Re: Which Virgin STB do you prefer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35468608)
Pretty much what 90% of the UK public would vote.:)

Ill have my 2 cents worth as well. I have had the Pace 1000, the V+HD, V HD and Tivo oh and Sky+HD. I prefer Sky+HD :D no seriously out of the VM STB's i prefer Tivo. YEs some tasks take more button presses but overall its worth it. The best box IMO

denphone 29-08-2012 19:37

Re: Which Virgin STB do you prefer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35468608)
Pretty much what 90% of the UK public would vote.:)

Why don't you vote great man as you might find it invigorating.;):D

muppetman11 29-08-2012 19:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35468628)
Why don't you vote great man as you might find it invigorating.;):D

I don't have a VM STB so my votes irrelevant , I'm in agreement with Grim so long as it records what I ask of it and seldom requires a reboot it'll do for me. If I'm honest people's affinity to a STB leaves me bemused but each to their own I guess.

passingbat 29-08-2012 20:05

Re: Which Virgin STB do you prefer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35468631)
If I'm honest people's affinity to a STB leaves me bemused but each to their own I guess.

I can only speak for myself, but it's not the affinity to a set top box that I'm interested, it's my affinity to the features it provides. If Sky, BT or youview made a box with the same features as Tivo, especially 3 recordable tuners and whishlists I'd be equally enthusiastic about those.

Peoples' requirements depend on their TV viewing, but I can never imagine myself going back to a box without whishlists and series links that have to be re-set for new seasons, (or even part seasons). But that is partly down to my viewing habits. Thankfully the days of me spending time checking the Digital Spy Premier list and other online 'New show UK air date listings' are over thanks to Tivo's whishlist. It's not just a nice feature, it's a time saver for me.

GrimUpNorth 29-08-2012 20:44

Re: Which Virgin STB do you prefer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by essjay (Post 35468616)
So I have managed to find out how many are still in circulation who wants to guess ?

I wouldn’t embarrass myself by guessing, but would be interested to know how many.

Cheers

Grim

nstokes 29-08-2012 20:47

Re: Which Virgin STB do you prefer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by essjay (Post 35468616)
So I have managed to find out how many are still in circulation who wants to guess ?

its got to be under 200.000 surely

essjay 29-08-2012 20:57

Re: Which Virgin STB do you prefer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35468666)
its got to be under 200.000 surely

yes a lot less than 200,000 about 5% of that. 10,509 ;)

GrimUpNorth 29-08-2012 20:59

Re: Which Virgin STB do you prefer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by essjay (Post 35468669)
yes a lot less than 200,000 about 5% of that. 10,509 ;)

And I was going to guess at about 10,510 :D

Cheers

Grim

Hom3r 29-08-2012 21:08

Re: Which Virgin STB do you prefer
 
We have a faulty V+ box which can now be replaced as we have removed the stuff we wanted to keep on it.

This was replaced by a 1TB Tivo, (plus Sky Sports & Movies in HD).

The V+ will go nicely with my HDTV

nstokes 29-08-2012 21:18

Re: Which Virgin STB do you prefer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by essjay (Post 35468669)
yes a lot less than 200,000 about 5% of that. 10,509 ;)

I nearly got it right :D

Chad 29-08-2012 21:41

Re: Which Virgin STB do you prefer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by essjay (Post 35468316)
Where is the Pace 1000 ?

I had a Pace 1000 in my bedroom up until about 7 months ago. I got TiVo in the living room and my V+ box moved to the bedroom. I've still got the remote for the Pace 1000. In the 6 or so years I hade the Pace 1000 I never had a problem with it.

Itshim 30-08-2012 14:42

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Preferred the V+ in it heyday. Miss the red button ( that gave what I wanted) the clock/timer & reminders that did just that .

neilo 30-08-2012 14:50

Re: Which Virgin STB do you prefer
 
I think the best picture quality was on the SA V+ box. When that broke I can remember being disappointed with the Samsung's picture quality in comparison. But the SA used to light up the room when it was switched off!

I suppose the TiVo box is a step up although it does frustrate me with some of its ways.

Itshim 30-08-2012 15:07

Re: Which Virgin STB do you prefer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by neilo (Post 35468856)
I think the best picture quality was on the SA V+ box. When that broke I can remember being disappointed with the Samsung's picture quality in comparison. But the SA used to light up the room when it was switched off!

I suppose the TiVo box is a step up although it does frustrate me with some of its ways.


Yes I was thinking of the SA . Remember the bright light problem was "fixed"
Still have one in bedroom - no light :)

OLD BOY 02-09-2012 15:37

Re: Which Virgin STB do you prefer
 
I have never looked back since replacing my V+ with a TIVO box. When i look at the V+ box now, I am reminded how bulky, clunky and noisy it was, although we preferred that to the Sky HD box, mostly for the extra tuner, though!

Being able to record three programmes at a time, the intelligence within the box that will find another time to record when there is no capacity for a recording at the time you've tried to set it, the displays and that delicious red background, the fact that you can 'undelete' your deleted programmes and set up wishlists.... I could whitter on for ages.

VM made an excellent move when they decided to run with the TIVO box. I only hope they now utilise its full potential. I'm still waiting to get more from the internet through the TIVO, such as streaming movies/box sets through providers of my choice, like Netflix and Lovefilm!

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35468608)
Pretty much what 90% of the UK public would vote.:)

H'mm... that doesn't tally with the votes on this thread....

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Quote:

Originally Posted by v0id (Post 35468297)
For someone who just wants to watch linear TV and maybe record a few shows, the V+ is by far and wide the simplest solution.

I disagree. It is just as easy to use a TIVO to watch linear TV, and the recording functionality is much better and transfers recordings where there are clashes to an alternative repeated listing. Additionally, there is so much more recording space that you don't have to keep deleting programmes you haven't yet seen to make room for new ones.

There are three tuners on the TIVO, the box does not seize up at midnight and is far quieter than the V+.

You don't have to use the other functions if you don't want to.

If that is all you want to use the TIVO for, how is it more complicated?

I think it is better for people to try to keep up, because as technology gets more advanced, they are going to get left far behind. Not only will they be losing out on what is available, when they do eventually change because the older technology is no longer around, they will find it a far bigger leap than if they took the bite size advances and got used to the latest technology that is available now.


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