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tweetiepooh 29-07-2012 19:12

Olympics - which sports should be there?
 
I am not a huge sport fan so probably am not the best to comment on this but what are folks feelings on the events in the Olympics (not the para as these have events tailored to competitors). Are there events you would see dropped? Are there events you'd like to see included?

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I'd drop the major sports like football and tennis. This is split between the fact that the pro's dominate in some (why should grand slam winners simply be able to notch up another title, give a chance to those lower down the pecking order). The other reason is the time. A single event is simply too long.

To counter the above I'd add games like 5 a-side football and rugby sevens which I think are more in keeping with a 2 week mixed sport event. More games in single locations in quick succession. More chances of each team playing the other.

I'd also like to see field archery. Unlike the target archery with competitors firing 60+ arrows at a fixed target fixed range, field archery (can) have different ranges, different shaped targets, moving targets, obstacles and the like. The form I did at university had 20 targets in a range with upto 3 shots each. First arrow kill = 20 -> third arrow wound = 4, so a perfect round would be 400.

danielf 29-07-2012 19:14

Re: Olympics - which sports should be there.
 
Chess Boxing!

Osem 29-07-2012 19:23

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The sports that should be there are the ones in which the Olympics represents the pinnacle (or very close to it) of their achievement. IMHO there's no place for tennis and football.

denphone 29-07-2012 19:26

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Darts should be in there in my humble opinion.

Ramrod 29-07-2012 19:28

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Karate

Hom3r 29-07-2012 19:34

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Topless Mud wrestling :naughty:

Osem 29-07-2012 20:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 35457684)
Karate

With a Wado Ryu/Shito Ryu 1st Dan for a son how could I disagree? ;

LondonRoad 29-07-2012 23:17

Re: Olympics - which sports should be there.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35457680)
The sports that should be there are the ones in which the Olympics represents the pinnacle (or very close to it) of their achievement. IMHO there's no place for tennis and football.

Agreed.

If popular sports like football, golf and tennis are in the olympics then it should be restricted to amatuers.

I don't think there should be a place for elitist sports such as equestrianism.

richard1960 30-07-2012 09:43

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Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35457688)
Topless Mud wrestling :naughty:

Or topless darts on ice i remember when the cable only TV station "Live TV" whcih used to broadcast from canary wharf, had that on every night.! Now that was a sport worth watching.!!!!;)

But on another note i cannot understand what football or tennis have to do with the olympics you might just as well include 20/20 cricket ,rugby,and speedway racing and go the whole hog.

I like the womens beach volleyball though.:D

Stephen 30-07-2012 10:35

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Why not have sports like Tennis, they are there to show there are the best in the world aren't they.

Stating someone shouldn't be allowed to enter as they have previously won Wimbledon or the French open isn't right. Technically that would mean someone that won a Gold medal at the last Olympics can't enter again?

The Olympics are about proving that you are a top athlete and top of your game.

Also there are a set of core events that have to be included and its then up to the host nation to choose the other events themselves. So why wouldn't you include a sport that your nation is good at?

This is the first time that GB have entered a handball team.

Maggy 30-07-2012 11:04

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In the first modern Olympics there were Olympic medals awarded to literature,sculpture,art,music,etching..Because it was also part of the original Greek Olympics.

Across the years that part has been dropped..but I note that there are still cultural events going on around the country to celebrate these games.It might be nice to bring that aspect back.

Personally I think any sport that requires physical effort or immense skill should be included.So no tiddlywinks or conkers.;)

But certainly the more events the better IMHO.:)

Julian 30-07-2012 11:11

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Surfing?

Also being as the Scots are grizzly about being linked with GB we could cheer them up by introducing Caber Tossing and Gurning. ;)

LexDiamond 30-07-2012 11:47

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Pie eating :D

Damien 30-07-2012 11:49

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I dislike the idea that if we have Tennis then the professional players shouldn't play, seems to undermine the event as everyone knows this isn't the height of achievement.

danielf 30-07-2012 11:54

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35457833)
I dislike the idea that if we have Tennis then the professional players shouldn't play, seems to undermine the event as everyone knows this isn't the height of achievement.

Which reminds me: AFAIK, boxing is the only sport where professionals can't compete in the olympics. Anyone know why this is?

gazzae 30-07-2012 11:58

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They are two distinct sports aren't they? Different rules etc? Bit like Rugby Union and Rugby League if that makes sense.

danielf 30-07-2012 12:05

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Originally Posted by gazzae (Post 35457838)
They are two distinct sports aren't they? Different rules etc? Bit like Rugby Union and Rugby League if that makes sense.

Are they? I know Olympic boxers are required to wear head protection, but other than that it's just a matter of beating your opponent to pulp?

Either way, I don't see why professionals can't compete. I saw Amir Khan interviewed on the beeb the other day. He said he'd love to compete but couldn't.

gazzae 30-07-2012 12:13

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The scoring is different as well. In amateur boxing all that counts is if the punch lands where as in pro boxing a powerful punch will score more.

---------- Post added at 12:13 ---------- Previous post was at 12:11 ----------

A jab and a haymaker would score the same in amateur, but in pro boxing a haymaker would be scored higher.

danielf 30-07-2012 12:16

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Ah. I still don't see why that should exclude professional boxers from the Olympics though.

gazzae 30-07-2012 12:23

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Because to be eligible you have to be a member of the AIBA and you can't be if you are a professional.

Expect to see professional boxers in 2016. Though only boxers who compete in the new AIBA Professional Boxing program will be eligible so might not see the big names.

danielf 30-07-2012 12:28

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Originally Posted by gazzae (Post 35457849)
Because to be eligible you have to be a member of the AIBA and you can't be if you are a professional.

Expect to see professional boxers in 2016. Though only boxers who compete in the new AIBA Professional Boxing program will be eligible so might not see the big names.

Yes, I understand those are the rules, but I was just wondering why those are the rules. Mind you, I don't particularly like boxing, so I couldn't care either way. Just wondering.

gazzae 30-07-2012 12:32

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Originally Posted by danielf (Post 35457851)
Yes, I understand those are the rules, but I was just wondering why those are the rules. Mind you, I don't particularly like boxing, so I couldn't care either way. Just wondering.

Two distinct sports is the simple answer.
Plus pro boxing doesn't have one organisation in charge of the sport so I'd imagine it has something to do with this as well.

Itshim 02-08-2012 16:22

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WWF of cause

v0id 02-08-2012 16:48

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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 35459068)
WWF of cause

The World Wide Fund for Nature isn't a sport :p

tweetiepooh 02-08-2012 18:41

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My main thought is that sports like football, rugby and the like take a long time to complete and take up a whole venue. The smaller versions 5-a-side, rugby sevens can have multiple games in the same venue over the same period and seem better suited to an event like the olympics that runs for 14 days. Also the smaller team size may allow smaller nations to participate which would be good.

I also like the idea of levelling the field so that smaller and poorer nations can compete and have chances of winning. A big problem with the professional level is that the split between the top (pro) teams and the more amateur is so great the latter just don't stand a chance. Surely it would be more sporting to have closer results and a more "friendly" atmosphere. Don't think we can ever go back though as people want to see the best not just good competition.

Damien 02-08-2012 19:56

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You have to have the professional level. The Olympics is a globalised televised event.

As you say people want to see the best athletes in the world compete. It becomes a mockery of sport if you can have a 'Olympic Champion' who can't compete at the professional level. Imagine a gold medal winning tennis player who can't make the ATP/WTA tours. The whole thing would be a joke. Also the Olympics is often the only time a lot of people are exposed to different, more niche, sports. So they might as well watch the best it can offer.

For this reason I agree that sports whose Olympic contests aren't taken seriously by the best athletes should be dropped. Football is the only one that springs to mind but that is taken seriously by South America and (I think) Asia.

danielf 04-08-2012 23:07

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Seeing we've got the long jump and the high jump in Athletics, I'd propose a new event, called the 'deep jump'. The idea would be for athletes to jump from a tower with platforms at varying heights, with optional added blocks for additional height. Athletes are expected to land feet first (no roll-overs allowed) on a concrete platform. A critical aspect of this new discipline would be the ability to climb the tower after a jump. A result will therefore only stand if the athlete manages to return to the starting position (unaided) within a time of, say one minute. Athletes may receive treatment for injuries, but such treatment does not allow for additional time in reaching the starting position.

The winner will be the athlete that managed a successful jump from and return to the highest starting position.

I'm sure we can all agree that this new discipline will be thoroughly entertaining to watch, and an absolute crowd pleaser.

iFrankie 05-08-2012 00:11

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Do we have ping pong/table tennis?

denphone 05-08-2012 08:56

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Originally Posted by iFrankie (Post 35459882)
Do we have ping pong/table tennis?

Yes we do already have Table Tennis.

LondonRoad 05-08-2012 09:17

Re: Olympics - which sports should be there?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danielf (Post 35459873)
Seeing we've got the long jump and the high jump in Athletics, I'd propose a new event, called the 'deep jump'. The idea would be for athletes to jump from a tower with platforms at varying heights, with optional added blocks for additional height. Athletes are expected to land feet first (no roll-overs allowed) on a concrete platform. A critical aspect of this new discipline would be the ability to climb the tower after a jump. A result will therefore only stand if the athlete manages to return to the starting position (unaided) within a time of, say one minute. Athletes may receive treatment for injuries, but such treatment does not allow for additional time in reaching the starting position.

The winner will be the athlete that managed a successful jump from and return to the highest starting position.

I'm sure we can all agree that this new discipline will be thoroughly entertaining to watch, and an absolute crowd pleaser.

That sounds feasible.... provided that I am allowed to nominate the victims ,... I mean athletes.

Osem 05-08-2012 10:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tweetiepooh (Post 35459141)
My main thought is that sports like football, rugby and the like take a long time to complete and take up a whole venue. The smaller versions 5-a-side, rugby sevens can have multiple games in the same venue over the same period and seem better suited to an event like the olympics that runs for 14 days. Also the smaller team size may allow smaller nations to participate which would be good.

Like that idea. :tu:


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