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Chris 27-07-2012 19:56

The London 2012 Olympics: Current affairs discussion
 
This thread is for discussing all the razzmatazz, glitz, glamour, gaffes and gripes generated by the Olympic games. Please don't post discussion about the actual sports in this thread, I have created a separate thread for that here:

Sports discussion: http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/88...iscussion.html

Osem 27-07-2012 20:00

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We won it, we were elated! We got bombed, we recovered. We're in a financial pickle (like much of the world) but we've spent the money now and we'll never see the games here again so, whether or not everyone agrees it was money well spent or not, let's just enjoy the Greatest Show on Earth and make the best of it! I know I will.

Can't wait for the show to begin! :)

alferret 27-07-2012 20:05

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I think there ought to a an alternative Olympic thread for those of us who wish to discuss the total waste of money & what else might be on TV that would be far more enjoyable than seeing £9 billion of our money wasted over the next 2 weeks.

Chris 27-07-2012 20:08

Re: The London 2012 Olympics: Current affairs discussion
 
That would be this thread. We're not going down the road of having separate threads for fanbois and haterz, you're all just going to have to get along in here. ;)

alferret 27-07-2012 20:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35457050)
you're all just going to have to get along in here. ;)

LOL I can see that you mods are gonna have your work cut out!

Osem 27-07-2012 20:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35457050)
That would be this thread. We're not going down the road of having separate threads for fanbois and haterz, you're all just going to have to get along in here. ;)

Yes - In all his outrage I don't think he saw the word 'gripes' in the OP. :D

devilincarnate 27-07-2012 20:16

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My nephew was moved over from Germany to London and then said he might get his leave just after selling his ticket for the Global festival. Guess what has happened to his leave?

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...56933140_n.jpg

carlwaring 27-07-2012 20:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by alferret (Post 35457049)
I think there ought to a an alternative Olympic thread for those of us who wish to discuss the total waste of money & what else might be on TV that would be far more enjoyable than seeing £9 billion of our money wasted over the next 2 weeks.

Given that so much of "your money" has been "waste" on this, don't you think you ought to at least watch some of it? ;):p::D

devilincarnate 27-07-2012 20:34

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PS To my previous post can we all give a massive thank you to the armed forces personal that have had their leave cancelled so that they have to cover the Olympics. My Nephew is one of them and all the others out there who are doing a brilliant job for their Country?

Hom3r 27-07-2012 21:13

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Seeing that bell in the stadium, I think it is going to become the couldren holding the fire.

MovedGoalPosts 27-07-2012 21:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35457054)
Given that so much of "your money" has been "waste" on this, don't you think you ought to at least watch some of it? ;):p::D

Nope because I don't want to somehow be seen to be approving of it by contributing to viewing figures or whatever other method they have of deciding it's a success.

Will21st 27-07-2012 21:19

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Amazing how miserable a lot of people in Britain are... laughable,really.

Anyhow,bring on the games,I'll be enjoying the Opening Ceremony at home and in eye-popping 3D,can't wait! :D:D :cleader:

devilincarnate 27-07-2012 21:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Will21st (Post 35457072)

Anyhow,bring on the games,I'll be enjoying the Opening Ceremony at home and in eye-popping 3D,can't wait! :D:D :cleader:

Just found out that my nephew is going to be watching in native 3d and he would swap places with you:)

Will21st 27-07-2012 21:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35457074)
Just found out that my nephew is going to be watching in native 3d and he would swap places with you:)

you know,I actually salute your nephew and all our AF who serve their country,my hat goes off to him and all those serving! :) :clap:

AT EASE!! ;)

mertle 27-07-2012 21:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35457056)
PS To my previous post can we all give a massive thank you to the armed forces personal that have had their leave cancelled so that they have to cover the Olympics. My Nephew is one of them and all the others out there who are doing a brilliant job for their Country?

agreed well said these poor lads should be not involved hope they get big money extra leave for this.

I hope every penny comes from idiot g4s boss own pocket. It the least these idiots could do for forcing these poor lads from leave, standby.

I have got relation been forced into this too from armed forces all he was looking forward too was quality time with girlfriend now been cancelled. Would not be shocked they lost it forever too knowing the way things go.

iFrankie 27-07-2012 23:34

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Breathtaking all of it!, i never thought we would pull it off!.

And im not ashamed to say i cried haha.

Hugh 27-07-2012 23:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mertle (Post 35457085)
agreed well said these poor lads should be not involved hope they get big money extra leave for this.

I hope every penny comes from idiot g4s boss own pocket. It the least these idiots could do for forcing these poor lads from leave, standby.

I have got relation been forced into this too from armed forces all he was looking forward too was quality time with girlfriend now been cancelled. Would not be shocked they lost it forever too knowing the way things go.

Try and dabble in the shallows of reality occasionally, please, whilst you are running along the shores of fantasy - if their leave is cancelled, it is not lost.

Hom3r 27-07-2012 23:44

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Dare I say "Arise Sir Boyle"

danielf 27-07-2012 23:51

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Rowan Atkinson the highlight for me. Hilarious :D

Sirius 27-07-2012 23:56

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It's been excellent so far

:clap:

Ramrod 28-07-2012 00:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by danielf (Post 35457116)
Rowan Atkinson the highlight for me. Hilarious :D

That he was, that and when the 'queen' parachuted out of the helicopter :D

Jimmy-J 28-07-2012 00:21

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Did anyone notice that German guy doing what looked like a Nazi salute?

Ramrod 28-07-2012 00:30

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Nope :confused:

Tezcatlipoca 28-07-2012 00:32

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I don't care about the actual Olympics, but I think that the opening ceremony was excellent (well, apart from the obligatory A-Z of countries bit at the end).


Oh, and from Twitter...

Aidan Burley, Conservative Party MP for Cannock Chase:

https://twitter.com/AidanBurleyMP/st...58648892792832

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aidan Burley MP
The most leftie opening ceremony I have ever seen - more than Beijing, the capital of a communist state! Welfare tribute next?


https://twitter.com/AidanBurleyMP/st...63706665574400

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aidan Burley MP
Thank God the athletes have arrived! Now we can move on from leftie multi-cultural crap. Bring back red arrows, Shakespeare and the Stones!

To say that he has come in for some criticism online for his Tweets would be an understatement!



If anyone finds his name familiar, it may be because of this story from last year...

MP Aiden Burley sorry for 'Nazi' stag party guest photos

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/...39_634x419.jpg

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2012/07/7.jpg

Jimmy-J 28-07-2012 00:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 35457125)
Nope :confused:

UPDATE: Here's the video... look at Camilla and Boris in the seats behind him. lol

Mind you, he was using his left arm.

Ramrod 28-07-2012 00:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmy-J (Post 35457127)
UPDATE: Here's the video... look at Camilla and Boris in the seats behind him. lol

Mind you, he was using his left arm.

lol :D

Hom3r 28-07-2012 01:03

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I love the LEDs around the stadium

TheDaddy 28-07-2012 01:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 35457126)
I don't care about the actual Olympics, but I think that the opening ceremony was excellent (well, apart from the obligatory A-Z of countries bit at the end).


Oh, and from Twitter...

Aidan Burley, Conservative Party MP for Cannock Chase:

https://twitter.com/AidanBurleyMP/st...58648892792832




https://twitter.com/AidanBurleyMP/st...63706665574400



To say that he has come in for some criticism online for his Tweets would be an understatement!



If anyone finds his name familiar, it may be because of this story from last year...

MP Aiden Burley sorry for 'Nazi' stag party guest photos

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/...39_634x419.jpg

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2012/07/7.jpg

That right wing dodge pot Toby something or other said the opening ceremony was.like watching an advert for socialism, I disagree but I would.like to know who all those people are on our pitch.

Ramrod 28-07-2012 01:39

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The lighting of the Olympic torch has left me speechless

edit.....and then they top that with a shot of the rings in space:nworthy:

danielf 28-07-2012 02:13

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Really nice touch: the cauldron being lit by seven hopefuls rather than one famous 'has been'. Brilliant music as well (are U2 now British?). Eclipse lyrics on the actual lighting. Risky, but brilliant.

I'm not sure if Muhammed Ali should have been there though. That bit was painful to watch.

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What was wrong with Paul McCartney though. He wasn't quite out of sync, but it sounded like he was performing in gale force winds?

Tezcatlipoca 28-07-2012 02:16

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The torch thing was great. Literally passing the torch to the next generation, plus that cauldron was awesome.

... But to then end with McCartney and Hey Jude? :rolleyes:

Still, other than that: Great stuff.

I won't be watching any of the actual sporting events, though.

danielf 28-07-2012 02:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmy-J (Post 35457127)
UPDATE: Here's the video... look at Camilla and Boris in the seats behind him. lol

Mind you, he was using his left arm.

He mostly looks like a bloke trying to wave (clumsily) with his unpreferred arm, possibly because he has injured his preferred arm.

Chrysalis 28-07-2012 02:28

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I watched the ceromony just now, was ok and all, I still am angry at the waste of money tho. Also that the queen looked bored and cameron looked very moody, both seemingly not wanting to be there.

Chris 28-07-2012 04:04

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A totally awesome event. And the Queen parachuted into the stadium with James Bond. Top that, Rio. :D

Tricky Trevor 28-07-2012 07:56

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I was surprised whilst watching the Olympic opening ceremony.

Why wasn't Kerry Katona carrying the Iceland flag?

alferret 28-07-2012 09:06

Oh no! Not the Olympics.
 
Just had a look at the TV listings for the next 2 weeks :cry:

BBC1, BBC1HD, BBC3, BBCHD + all the other channels being provided for over the coming weeks dedicated to the Olympics.
So we all have to pay for this service via the license fee yet we all don't want to watch it & having a quick browse of what's on the 2 channels left BBC2 & BBC4 I think that I should receive a 4% discount on my TV license as I will be watching ZERO BBC content over the next 2 weeks.
The BBC is supposed to be about choice, what choice is there when there are a total of 28 channels dedicated to this spectacle & 2 channels full of crap for those that have no interest.
Call me what you want, killjoy, boring (insert word) or anything else. Having this shoved down my throat is not sitting well with me. All I see is wasted money, tax & license fee payers money all £9Billion of it & once its all done & dusted I can guarantee the total final cost of this to the tax payer will be in excess of £11Billion.

Russ 28-07-2012 10:00

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I was a confirmed cynic of the Olympics. But, and I don't often openly offer this, was I wrong!!

The ceremony was incredible Brannagh played his role brilliantly. Very pleased that it wasn't the expected "England-centric" stuff, it captured the essence of the UK perfectly. Only 3 downers for me - Liz's "opening speech" was given with all the gusto of a "I'm sorry but we're going to have to let you go" speech, The long wait for Team GB was distracting - I realise all countries needed an introduction but still I almost nodded off at times. And Macca at the end looked (and sounded) like he'd just been woken up. In retrospect I think I'd have preferred a 'supergroup' made up of Macca, Brian May and Roger Taylor, Bowie and one or two others singing something like 'Rule Britannia' or 'We are the champions'.

But other than that I think Danny Boyle has booked his knighthood and rightly so :)

carlwaring 28-07-2012 10:21

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I actually agree with all three of your "downers".

The Queen's speech should have been longer and right at the end.

Question..is the host nation's team always the last in? (as otherwise that was stupid!)

Other than that... awesome.

And, as for alferret, well... there's always one I suppose but I shan't drag the thread OT to explain why he's completely and utterly wrong.

denphone 28-07-2012 10:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35457047)
We won it, we were elated! We got bombed, we recovered. We're in a financial pickle (like much of the world) but we've spent the money now and we'll never see the games here again so, whether or not everyone agrees it was money well spent or not, let's just enjoy the Greatest Show on Earth and make the best of it! I know I will.

Can't wait for the show to begin! :)

Never a better word spoken and l for one am looking forward to it immensely.:tu:

Kymmy 28-07-2012 10:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35457183)
Question..is the host nation's team always the last in? (as otherwise that was stupid!)

Yep, tradition these days is Greece first as the birthplace, the rest in alphabetical order and finally the host nation

Hugh 28-07-2012 11:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 35457145)
I watched the ceromony just now, was ok and all, I still am angry at the waste of money tho. Also that the queen looked bored and cameron looked very moody, both seemingly not wanting to be there.

Methinks you are projecting your emotions/feelings on to others....;)

Maggy 28-07-2012 12:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 35457141)
The torch thing was great. Literally passing the torch to the next generation, plus that cauldron was awesome.

... But to then end with McCartney and Hey Jude? :rolleyes:

Still, other than that: Great stuff.

I won't be watching any of the actual sporting events, though.

Not even events that we might have a hope of gold? I hate sports and it's coverage but I ALWAYS watch the Olympics.:)

Now to read the copy of The Austerity Olympics that I just picked up from the library..I watched Bertie and Dickie on Catch up just before the ceremony.Excellent!:D

Oh the ceremony? That was us at our quirky and eccentric best..Well done to all the volunteers.

martyh 28-07-2012 12:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 35457145)
I watched the ceromony just now, was ok and all, I still am angry at the waste of money tho. Also that the queen looked bored and cameron looked very moody, both seemingly not wanting to be there.


I want to know how people think the money spent has been wasted :confused:

devilincarnate 28-07-2012 12:18

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I did like this article for those who do not like the Olympics?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...tledge-1176109

mertle 28-07-2012 12:23

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road race been poorly organised today.

Time checks been poor at first comentators was ages without time checks and riders info.

Dog was loose nearly caused a crash to boot Thankfull gap was inbetween

.

Maggy 28-07-2012 12:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 35457145)
l, I still am angry at the waste of money tho.

Now let me see.
A nice new world class stadium..
A nice new Olympic standard swimming stadium.
A new cycling stadium..along with a bmx track

A whole set of buildings in the Athletes village that will be used as flats by Londoners after the Olympics have long closed..2,818 new homes.all with parks with improved transport system.
Plus a whole lot more..

Why don't you actually do some damned research?

http://www.london2012.com/mm%5CDocum...t2_Neutral.pdf

Or is it just that you can't put your preconceived prejudices to one side.

Oh and remember these games were sought and gained under a Labour Government and completed by a Coalition government so scoring political points is pretty meaningless.:rolleyes:

Russ 28-07-2012 12:41

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...t-attacks.html

Just the sort of thing you'd expect from an American broadcaster. Imagine if we did the same about 9/11.

martyh 28-07-2012 13:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35457230)
Now let me see.
A nice new world class stadium..
A nice new Olympic standard swimming stadium.
A new cycling stadium..along with a bmx track

A whole set of buildings in the Athletes village that will be used as flats by Londoners after the Olympics have long closed..2,818 new homes.all with parks with improved transport system.
Plus a whole lot more..

Why don't you actually do some damned research?

http://www.london2012.com/mm%5CDocum...t2_Neutral.pdf

Or is it just that you can't put your preconceived prejudices to one side.

Oh and remember these games were sought and gained under a Labour Government and completed by a Coalition government so scoring political points is pretty meaningless.:rolleyes:

Well said Maggie ,from what i have seen in my travels to that area a practically derelict area has been regenerated and is still being improved

nodrogd 28-07-2012 13:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by danielf (Post 35457139)
...What was wrong with Paul McCartney though. He wasn't quite out of sync, but it sounded like he was performing in gale force winds?....

Definately had a hitch with his mic at the start. Replayed it and they definately spliced in pre-recorded for a few seconds.

carlwaring 28-07-2012 13:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35457218)
I did like this article for those who do not like the Olympics?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...tledge-1176109

Quote:

Caption:.... Rowan Atkinson pretends to be bored by the ceremony
No. Mr Bean was bored playing the same one note over and over again!! Nice spin though :rolleyes:

martyh 28-07-2012 15:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35457183)
.

Question..is the host nation's team always the last in? (as otherwise that was stupid!)

.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 35457186)
Yep, tradition these days is Greece first as the birthplace, the rest in alphabetical order and finally the host nation


Yep

Quote:

During the opening ceremony of the Olympic Games, the procession of athletes is always led by the Greek team, followed by all the other teams in alphabetical order (in the language of the hosting country), except for the last team which is always the team of the hosting country.
http://history1900s.about.com/od/gre...ympicfacts.htm

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I've just watched the opening ceremony on Iplayer and it was truly brilliant ,it captured the essence of Britain perfectly to me and shows how much we have as a country given the rest of the world

well done to the organisers they did us proud

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Quote:

Originally Posted by danielf (Post 35457139)
Brilliant music as well (are U2 now British?).

I think that they were in it more as recognition for their charity work with underdeveloped countries which is one of the Olympic ideals

Quote:

I'm not sure if Muhammed Ali should have been there though. That bit was painful to watch.
It was sad to see the worlds greatest sportsman in such a state


W
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hat was wrong with Paul McCartney though. He wasn't quite out of sync, but it sounded like he was performing in gale force winds?
lets face it he never was a great singer and as he gets older his voice gets worse .

Angua 28-07-2012 15:29

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Just wondering if the Chinese cycling farmer got his wish?

Russ 28-07-2012 15:47

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It was painful to watch The World's Greatest in such a way but I'm sure he was happy to attend. It was a nice touch having him playing a significant part.

Tezcatlipoca 28-07-2012 16:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35457211)
Not even events that we might have a hope of gold? I hate sports and it's coverage but I ALWAYS watch the Olympics.:)

Nope - I hate watching sport. It bores me, even if it's Team GB at the Olympics or England at the football.

The TV will be showing it all non-stop... but only because Mrs D loves it all. I won't be watching.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35457234)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...t-attacks.html

Just the sort of thing you'd expect from an American broadcaster. Imagine if we did the same about 9/11.

Another story on it: http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012...ony?CMP=twt_gu


No surprise really. NBC's coverage came in for criticism from the very beginning.

- No live-stream, just a time-delayed broadcast that began when the ceremony finished.

- The NBC presenters were ignorant of who Tim Berners-Lee was. Apparently they suggested to the audience that they just Google him, not knowing that if it wasn't for TBL in the first place they would not be able to Google TBL...

- Replacing the "memorial wall" section with a Ryan Seacrest interview :rolleyes:

Hugh 28-07-2012 16:13

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In case you were wondering what the Queen was thinking during the Olympics opening ceremony.....

martyh 28-07-2012 16:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 35457273)
- The NBC presenters were ignorant of who Tim Berners-Lee was. Apparently they suggested to the audience that they just Google him, not knowing that if it wasn't for TBL in the first place they would not be able to Google TBL...

- Replacing the "memorial wall" section with a Ryan Seacrest interview :rolleyes:

I think they where just ****ed at being reminded of how much GB has given the world, from industry to the WWW

Maggy 28-07-2012 16:46

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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...&sct=hp_t11_a0

An interesting slant on the opening.:)

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19029510

Boris loved the whole ceremony.

Quote:

Speaking at the Olympic Park, Mr Johnson said: "It wasn't global 'Brito-pap'. It wasn't just Big Ben and Beefeaters and red buses and stuff. It was actually the truth about this country in the last two or three hundred years told in a big, dynamic way.
"People say it was all leftie stuff. That is nonsense. I'm a Conservative and I had hot tears of patriotic pride from the beginning. I was blubbing like Andy Murray.
"I thought it was stupefying, one of the most amazing events I have ever seen.
"The big anxiety we had was, could we do something that would rival Beijing. I think we knocked the spots off it."

martyh 28-07-2012 16:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35457279)
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...&sct=hp_t11_a0

An interesting slant on the opening.:)

A good read

mertle 28-07-2012 17:47

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goto say the cycling coverage was farse as bad team gb keeping the breakaways in check.

First gripe was the shoddy camera work One case the camera was moved left right like shaking.

Not giving us enough butchers who were in breakaways. In tour de france they will drive past give each shot.

Concentrating too much on one group. Airial shots too far away at times not letting us judge time gaps over time points as they spun off to show leaders. Which was crucial because some idiot didnt even bother giving us time gaps to groups enough. It was very rare to see captions.

Farse complete farse then we had this stupid slomo they do round this corner.

If they cant do it good enough then dont bother it became hard to watch because we was not getting information.
I dont know who was the idiots in charge of it BEEB or IOC but they need to do much better job.

It was like you was sat or stood watching race from the sides the information was soo poor.

Too cap it commentary drop very frequent awful plain awful organisation.

Not sure it was this bad in bejing.

I hope womens road race coverage improves 1,000%. If its just farse will stop watching it. Love my cycling but could not watch it like that again.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35457285)
A good read

indeed you hear about load cyclist got kettled started fighting the police over it. Aparantly they do this ride every month but last night police would not let them do it.

danielf 28-07-2012 17:48

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I agree there wasn't enough info, but the commentators weren't at fault, as they didn't have the info. The Beeb would do well to hire a commentator who can actually tell the riders apart. The number of mix-ups was astonishing.

mertle 28-07-2012 18:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by danielf (Post 35457309)
I agree there wasn't enough info, but the commentators weren't at fault, as they didn't have the info. The Beeb would do well to hire a commentator who can actually tell the riders apart. The number of mix-ups was astonishing.

yep dont blame commentators one minute. Think mistakes was not there fault also daft to allow teams same colours.

Was there GPS like the tours. Surely brainded IOC would allow that as it helps to pinpoint where riders are.

Think the commentators was paul sherwin and chris boardman they know cycling inside out from itv4 did channel 4 tour de france coverage for years.

So clearly mistakes was lack info but surely organisors could give them the tools to cammentate.

Whoever to blame wants kick up the pants for this fiasco IOC, BEEB or Locog someone needs get finger out sort this mess for tomorrow. It was not 3rd division coverage it was amatuerish.

Spoilt good day watching racing shame cav did not win but alot cycling fans will be angry this poor effort of coverage.

devilincarnate 28-07-2012 19:01

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Originally Posted by danielf (Post 35457309)
I agree there wasn't enough info, but the commentators weren't at fault, as they didn't have the info. The Beeb would do well to hire a commentator who can actually tell the riders apart. The number of mix-ups was astonishing.

Are you contradicting yourself with this post or am I misreading the post:confused:

mertle 28-07-2012 19:11

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BEEB critising OBS the IOC official broadcasting for the appalling coverage got this from guardian live feed.

So it was hugh porter and chris boardman had thankless task trying to keep us interested watching farce broadcasting.

Just hope these OBS do better job tomorrow. Was half expecting to them miss the finish it was that bad.

sorry way the thing reeds hard to copy feeds.

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16:46 BST
One last thing: The Beeb speak

"Roger Mosey, who is the Beeb's Director of London 2012 is blaming OBS, the IOC's host broadcaster, for the lack of graphics and timing during the road race.

"On road cycling, the BBC team shares the frustration about lack of graphics/info from the organisers," he tweeted during the race. "But exciting finish ahead. #BBC2012"



16:41 BST
That's all from me ...

Thanks for your time and your emails, I'll be back tomorrow for the women's road race, which is a 140 kilometre yomp around the same course that starts at noon. See you then.



16:38 BST
Regarding the appalling TV coverage of that race ...

I notice that the BBC have been quick to distance themselves from coverage of a road race that was uninformative, bordering on contemptuous.
Jake Humphries was on earlier pointing out that everyone at BBC HQ was just as fed up as their viewers at the lack of information being provided to them about which riders were in what groups, how far they had left to travel and what the time gaps were, but that they had to make do with the same feed as everyone else.
Hats off, then, to BBC commentators Hugh Porter and Chris Boardman who did a fairly excellent job under the circumstances, as they were clearly being given very little to work with.




carlwaring 28-07-2012 19:13

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Originally Posted by mertle (Post 35457305)
I dont know who was the idiots in charge of it BEEB or IOC but they need to do much better job.

It was neither; but the BBC agreed with you and said so on-air :)

All Olympic broadcasting is now done by the OBS.

danielf 28-07-2012 19:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35457327)
Are you contradicting yourself with this post or am I misreading the post:confused:

The commentators weren't given enough info regarding how far groups were spaced apart, which wasn't their fault. One of them had difficulty telling riders apart which was his fault, as the other had no such problem. One would assume they do have a list of riders and numbers...

devilincarnate 28-07-2012 20:12

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Originally Posted by danielf (Post 35457344)
One would assume they do have a list of riders and numbers...

The numbers were on the back pockets of the jackets and also the bikes so when they were showing the riders from the front it would be hard?

danielf 28-07-2012 20:18

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35457353)
The numbers were on the back pockets of the jackets and also the bikes so when they were showing the riders from the front it would be hard?

I still think he was poor. Saying things like a rider attempted to escape from the peloton when he was actually in the breakaway group that was minutes ahead. Also, as an experienced commentator he's supposed to know the faces?

devilincarnate 28-07-2012 20:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by danielf (Post 35457354)
I still think he was poor. Saying things like a rider attempted to escape from the peloton when he was actually in the breakaway group that was minutes ahead. Also, as an experienced commentator he's supposed to know the faces?

Yes will agree with you on that one mate. Also here are all the peeps from the day?

Quote:

Cycling commentators:
Hugh Porter
Chris Boardman
Jill Douglas

alferret 28-07-2012 21:22

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I wonder why there are so many seats at supposedly sold out events?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/oly...stigation.html

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Despite tickets for the events being sold out, television images revealed scores of empty seats at the swimming, dressage, volleyball and tennis.
I wonder what parts of the UK will be used to bus in bodies to fill those empty seats. One thing I do know it wont be G4S staff used to make up the numbers.

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Despite most events having long since sold out, there were rows of empty seats visible at the swimming heats, the gymnastics, the volleyball and the dressage in Greenwich Park.
The London 2012 organising committee said it appeared that most of the empty seats were not sold to members of the public but were in "accredited" areas meant for members of the "Olympic family".
They include international federations, national governing bodies, athletes, International Olympic Committee officials and non-tabled media positions.
At the morning swimming heats featuring Michael Phelps and his US rival Ryan Lochte, there were an estimated 500 empty seats in one block alone.
And at the morning session of the gymnastics, at which Louis Smith and the rest of the British team appeared, there were more than 1,000 empty seats despite prospective ticket buyers being told it was sold out.
At the volleyball at Earl's Court, around a quarter of the seats at the 15,000 capacity venue were empty.
Andy Reed, a former MP and now director of Sports Thinktank, said there were "so many [empty] seats at the volleyball - really disappointed for so many who wanted to be there".
At the dressage in Greenwich Park, the arena was usually no more than two thirds full - but that could also put down to the fact that many people were dipping in and out of the action.
At the football, which is a different case in that there are far more unsold seats, there were vast swathes of unsold tickets for the women's matches at Cardiff's Millennium Stadium and Glasgow's Hampden Park.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012...ew-empty-seats

Damien 28-07-2012 21:26

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Just got back from Wimbledon. Pretty good event. We're lucky to have such a good location for Tennis already.

I was in Victoria Park for the Opening Ceremony, it's just next to the stadium so I got to see the Fireworks and the people jumping out of the chopper. It was all ready good. Danny Boyle really pulled off something amazing.

TheDaddy 28-07-2012 21:54

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35457230)
Now let me see.
A nice new world class stadium..
A nice new Olympic standard swimming stadium.
A new cycling stadium..along with a bmx track

A whole set of buildings in the Athletes village that will be used as flats by Londoners after the Olympics have long closed..2,818 new homes.all with parks with improved transport system.
Plus a whole lot more..

Why don't you actually do some damned research?

http://www.london2012.com/mm%5CDocum...t2_Neutral.pdf

Or is it just that you can't put your preconceived prejudices to one side.

Oh and remember these games were sought and gained under a Labour Government and completed by a Coalition government so scoring political points is pretty meaningless.:rolleyes:

Just what London is short of, another football stadium and in terms of value for.money your list only emphasises chrysalis' point imo.

mertle 28-07-2012 21:58

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Originally Posted by alferret (Post 35457376)
I wonder why there are so many seats at supposedly sold out events?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/oly...stigation.html

knowing us tickets still in the post. Either that or London transport system caused the issue.

Either way theres very angry mob at locog.

On the cycling they also getting blamed.

blame game according to OBs its locog fault that it was there responsibilty for GPS timing.

That they was not providing the information to comentators.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012...rvices-cycling

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A BBC spokesman said: "We have raised our concerns with OBS who have explained that there were GPS problems with the Locog-supplied timing graphics, which resulted in a lack of information for the commentary teams.
"A number of tests were run by OBS this morning on parts of the course. We've been assured that everything is being done to try and resolve this ahead of the women's road race."
Just hope whoever it was OBS or locog they get there act together get these GPS sorted.

Now as side note GPS was also faulty in tour de france timings often jumped and spiked. Althogh in past years there acuracy was bit iffy they become more more reliable as technology advanced.

Wonder if there GPS jamming going off as sabatage.

Hugh 28-07-2012 22:01

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Really?

Let's not get too carried away, hey?

How exactly would they jam the satellite signals - it's the Olympics, not a James Bond movie.....

Damien 28-07-2012 22:25

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Should Danny Boyle get a knighthood? It's not often we host such an event as last night, millions upon millions saw as stage the Opening Ceremony and on 1/4th of the budget of China's opening ceremony he did us proud.

mertle 28-07-2012 22:33

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35457389)
Really?

Let's not get too carried away, hey?

How exactly would they jam the satellite signals - it's the Olympics, not a James Bond movie.....

you will be suprised there devices for sale now all over the web there chinese GPS jammer hugh,

On how to jam them public GPS miltary safe as long they code protected they wont falsify position or shut down.

Not james bond hugh its scary what tech out there. Such software which can activate your mobile speaker. camera without you knowing.

They smalll can be disguised mobiles can either temp or permantly destroy the GPS chip.

Hom3r 28-07-2012 22:50

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My satnav stopped working near Bristol a few years back, I don't know why.

Military GPS has anti jamming tech.

Tezcatlipoca 28-07-2012 22:53

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35457397)
Should Danny Boyle get a knighthood? It's not often we host such an event as last night, millions upon millions saw as stage the Opening Ceremony and on 1/4th of the budget of China's opening ceremony he did us proud.

I think so, for this and for "services to British film".

Hell, if Gary Barlow can have an OBE I think Danny Boyle should have a Kighthood!

gazzae 28-07-2012 23:03

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"So Blofeld, you are going to use this GPS jamming technology to bring London to a grinding standstill?"
"No Mr. Bond, I'm going to prevent BBC viewers from seeing the road race timings! **evil laugh**"

Maggy 28-07-2012 23:14

Re: The London 2012 Olympics: Current affairs discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mertle (Post 35457387)
knowing us tickets still in the post. Either that or London transport system caused the issue.

Either way theres very angry mob at locog.

On the cycling they also getting blamed.

blame game according to OBs its locog fault that it was there responsibilty for GPS timing.

That they was not providing the information to comentators.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012...rvices-cycling



Just hope whoever it was OBS or locog they get there act together get these GPS sorted.

Now as side note GPS was also faulty in tour de france timings often jumped and spiked. Althogh in past years there acuracy was bit iffy they become more more reliable as technology advanced.

Wonder if there GPS jamming going off as sabatage.

Take a deep breath.

It's not the end of the world..Why not accept that not everything in life goes the way you want it to and sometimes that's the way things are..otherwise you will have a stroke with the continual stress.You are certainly stressing me out and I couldn't care less about the road cycling because I find it boring as a spectator sport.I'd rather watch the velodrome efforts..

danielf 28-07-2012 23:20

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35457416)
Take a deep breath.

It's not the end of the world..Why not accept that not everything in life goes the way you want it to and sometimes that's the way things are..otherwise you will have a stroke with the continual stress.You are certainly stressing me out and I couldn't care less about the road cycling because I find it boring as a spectator sport.I'd rather watch the velodrome efforts..

What a load of rubbish. Just because you don't like to watch it it's not a big deal? It was a major issue, and something that needs addressing ahead of tomorrow's ladies' road race. It's not acceptable.

Damien 28-07-2012 23:23

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Surprised the NHS section seems to have been the most controversial aspect of the ceremony. Really? I think some have underestimated the degree to which the NHS is still widely respected amongst the population. It has problems of courses but understandable and justified criticism of the NHS shouldn't be confused with a dislike of the NHS itself.

TheDaddy 29-07-2012 00:15

Re: The London 2012 Olympics: Current affairs discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35457397)
Should Danny Boyle get a knighthood? It's not often we host such an event as last night, millions upon millions saw as stage the Opening Ceremony and on 1/4th of the budget of China's opening ceremony he did us proud.

He has already turned one down iirc

Maggy 29-07-2012 11:45

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Originally Posted by danielf (Post 35457421)
What a load of rubbish. Just because you don't like to watch it it's not a big deal? It was a major issue, and something that needs addressing ahead of tomorrow's ladies' road race. It's not acceptable.

I wonder if mertle actually bothered to complain to the BBC?Did you?

---------- Post added at 10:45 ---------- Previous post was at 10:42 ----------

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-18983558


Something to amuse..and you can make some input of your own about what visitors to the UK,GB,Wales,NI and Scotland might need to know during the Olympics.

Loved the section on Nationality..:)

danielf 29-07-2012 12:23

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35457527)
I wonder if mertle actually bothered to complain to the BBC?Did you?

If you'd read this thread, in particular the quoted text in post #64, you'd have known that the BBC were quite aware it wasn't good enough.

Or you could have a read here or here

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London 2012 Olympics: BBC complain over Cycling road race statistics from the Olympic Broadcasting Service
The Olympic Broadcasting Service came under severe criticism on Saturday night after a lack of timing graphics – notably the time gap between the leaders and the chasing peloton – came close to spoiling one of the most exciting finales in recent Olympic road racing history.
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Fury at BBC fiasco during men's road race with commentary team left in the dark

BBC bosses were caught up in a row with Olympic Broadcast Services, who provide the feed for their television pictures and event information, following the shambolic coverage of Great Britain’s failed attempt to win gold in the men’s cycle road race.

Are the national press just a bunch of moaners for being interested in something you don't like to watch as well?

mertle 29-07-2012 12:47

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thanks danielf what maggy fails to understand this info critical to watching the spectacle. Its like watch tennis not given the scores.

Cap it they did not show the bronze finish very well.

Incidently new issue India going ape aparantly.

Some women who they dont know not part indian olympic team.

Not sure even if she locog stood next to flag hogging limelight got trunkated coverage.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-19035583

Maybe we should do rendition of madona's whose that girl.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2012/07/3.jpg

I hope all these problems ironed out.

Russ 29-07-2012 12:59

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I can't believe how touchy some countries are being. First the Koreans about the flag mix-up. Now the Indians are demanding an apology. Some people really need to calm down.

Stuart 29-07-2012 13:04

Re: The London 2012 Olympics: Current affairs discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mertle (Post 35457400)
you will be suprised there devices for sale now all over the web there chinese GPS jammer hugh,

On how to jam them public GPS miltary safe as long they code protected they wont falsify position or shut down.

The Jammers wouldn't be affected by the GPS transmissions being encoded. They just flood a range of frequencies with interference.

carlwaring 29-07-2012 13:12

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35457557)
I can't believe how touchy some countries are being. First the Koreans about the flag mix-up. Now the Indians are demanding an apology. Some people really need to calm down.

The Korean thing I can actually understand then being annoyed about, but this latest Indian thing (at least, the "time on screen" bit) is a load of nonsense. I can understand their problem with the unknown lady though.

danielf 29-07-2012 13:12

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35457557)
I can't believe how touchy some countries are being. First the Koreans about the flag mix-up. Now the Indians are demanding an apology. Some people really need to calm down.

So the North Koreans have no right to be upset about the flag of their arch enemy being shown? The Indians should be happy to have their party gate crashed? Presumably, the Irish should be content when the Union Flag is flown next to their name as well?

martyh 29-07-2012 13:41

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35457557)
I can't believe how touchy some countries are being. First the Koreans about the flag mix-up. Now the Indians are demanding an apology. Some people really need to calm down.

Don't you think it a tad unnerving that an apparent total stranger can latch onto a team with such ease ,especially considering all the problems with security ?

Maggy 29-07-2012 14:34

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Well I'm not going to get upset that the sound on the Ladies Weightlifting is poor.I can suck it up because it's perfectly clear who was outdoing everyone else and who won.Not something I'm going to rant about because with an event as large as the Olympics there are bound to be a few hiccups..It is simply not the end of the world as we know it..

As for the woman in red didn't anyone in the Indian team challenge her at all?

gazzae 29-07-2012 14:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35457557)
I can't believe how touchy some countries are being. First the Koreans about the flag mix-up. Now the Indians are demanding an apology. Some people really need to calm down.

Were you not complaining when a Welsh player was called English?

Maggy 29-07-2012 14:37

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Originally Posted by danielf (Post 35457563)
So the North Koreans have no right to be upset about the flag of their arch enemy being shown? The Indians should be happy to have their party gate crashed? Presumably, the Irish should be content when the Union Flag is flown next to their name as well?

Well considering I don't think they should have been allowed to attend after blowing up that South Korean Naval ship for no good reason,no. I think they should be grateful that they are here on sufferance and put up with it.:rolleyes:

Gary L 29-07-2012 14:39

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I think McCartney really ruined the end of the olympics opening.

martyh 29-07-2012 14:44

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35457571)

As for the woman in red didn't anyone in the Indian team challenge her at all?

Isn't that what all the security is supposed to do ?


As it turns out she was just a cast member

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The woman who appeared in India's Olympic contingent in the opening ceremony was a cast member in the event, London 2012's Seb Coe has said.
She was a cast member who got "slightly over-excited", he told journalists at the daily Olympic news conference
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-19035583

danielf 29-07-2012 14:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35457571)
Well I'm not going to get upset that the sound on the Ladies Weightlifting is poor.I can suck it up because it's perfectly clear who was outdoing everyone else and who won.Not something I'm going to rant about because with an event as large as the Olympics there are bound to be a few hiccups..It is simply not the end of the world as we know it..

I think you'd do well to not get involved in a discussion of something you're not interested in as you've made it abundantly clear that you're in no position to judge the importance of events.

---------- Post added at 13:48 ---------- Previous post was at 13:47 ----------

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35457573)
Well considering I don't think they should have been allowed to attend after blowing up that South Korean Naval ship for no good reason,no. I think they should be grateful that they are here on sufferance and put up with it.:rolleyes:

And thankfully, you're not in a position to decide on it.

Tezcatlipoca 29-07-2012 15:38

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The inevitable Daily Mail rubbish about the opening ceremony...

http://botherer.org/2012/07/28/the-d...acism-is-fine/

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Originally Posted by John Walker
UPDATE: That was quick. About five minutes after I posted, the Mail’s story was ninja edited, without acknowledgement, to remove the most outrageously racist lines. Where once it read:

“This was supposed to be a representation of modern life in England but it is likely to be a challenge for the organisers to find an educated white middle-aged mother and black father living together with a happy family in such a set-up.
Almost, if not every, shot in the next sequence included an ethnic minority performer. The BBC presenter Hazel Irvine gushed about the importance of grime music (a form of awful electronic music popular among black youths) to east London. This multicultural equality agenda was so staged it was painful to watch.”

It now reads:

“This was supposed to be a representation of modern life in England but such set-ups are simply not the ‘norm’ in any part of the country. So why was it portrayed like this and given such prominence? If it was intended to be something that we can celebrate, that two people with different colour skin and different cultural heritages can live harmoniously together, then it deserves praise.
But what will be disturbing to many people is top-down political manipulation – whether consciously or unthinkingly – at a major sporting event.”

It’s the most extraordinary change to the text, completely reversing the meaning the author originally intended, and completely incongruous to the paragraphs either side of it, which still endorse Aidan Burley’s “leftie multicultural crap” tweet.

You can see scans of the original article, before these changes were made, here: 1, 2, 3 and 4.

Original: I am very aware that getting cross with Daily Mail articles is like shouting about how the sun can be hot. However, my motivation is not to cry, “How dare they!”, but instead to say, “Please understand that they do.” I still meet many people who do not understand how the Daily Mail is not just another tabloid, not just as bad as the rest of them, but instead something far more despicable and dangerous. It’s one of the most popular papers in Britain, and when we say, “Just ignore it – they’re just trying to get hits,” I shudder. We do not ignore evil – we challenge it and get angry about it. We make more people aware. Some people reading won’t have realised. And others can maybe point someone this way when they ask what they’re getting so worked up about.

The particular piece that’s riled me this evening is elegantly titled, “The NHS did not deserve to be so disgracefully glorified in this bonanza of left-wing propaganda“. That the Mail would write a piece arguing that the NHS is a bad thing, and should have had no part in the Olympic opening ceremony, is not a surprise. They’re a vicious and spiteful paper, and their agenda against the poor and needy is over a hundred years old. The NHS is the antithesis of everything they stand for, a socialist blight on our nation they’d rather do without. And while there are a thousand reasons to get cross about that, it’s not the issue with this piece. The issue is what’s smuggled in there.

This is why the Mail is so insidious, and so dangerous. It’s written in a very particular way, designed to sweep readers up in a froth of anger, before then slipping in various suggestions of what else they should think. Although written as, “And here’s what you already think, of course.” While I have strong issues with many other newspapers, from the hypocrisy of the Murdoch press, to the near fascistic support for anything “left” in the Guardian, nothing upsets me nor fills me with fear as much as the prose style of the Mail.

(big snip)


Gary L 29-07-2012 15:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 35457588)
The inevitable Daily Mail rubbish about the opening ceremony...

But you do have to admit that they do go out of their way to get ethnic minorities into these kind of things. such as leaflets and literature.

not that it's a bad thing. but you can clearly see that they had to physically go out there and hand pick them if you like.

I'm not bothered either way. but you have to wonder whether it's sort of patronising to those who are hand picked.

With regards to the black and white couple. that was obviously a concious decision. which really imho was a bit pathetic.

Damien 29-07-2012 15:57

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The Daily Mail are just annoyed we didn't apologise for any remotely socialist part of Britain and that we didn't white wash the entire ceremony. They can go suck on a lemon.

Anyway I went to the Olympic Park today to watch the Hockey and go up the Orbit. The Olympic Park is HUGE! It takes a good amount of time to walk around the whole thing. We really built something nice there and I really hope they maintain what they can of it. A permeant sporting village. The Hockey area is clearly temporary, but the velodrome, the swimming pool, the stadium and maybe the basketball arena can all stay. We should really try hard to find a way to keep it's status after the games because it's too nice an area to throw it away.

The security is effective but strict. The army are do a fantastic job from what I have seen yesterday at Wimbledon and today at the Olympic Park. We're moving though security fast but it's airport level security (x-rays for bags/coats, metal detectors and sometimes the pat down).

martyh 29-07-2012 15:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35457590)
But you do have to admit that they do go out of their way to get ethnic minorities into these kind of things. such as leaflets and literature.

not that it's a bad thing. but you can clearly see that they had to physically go out there and hand pick them if you like.

I'm not bothered either way. but you have to wonder whether it's sort of patronising to those who are hand picked.

or the organisers could have simply asked for 50 performers to act in a sequence for the opening ceremony and some just happened to be from ethnic backgrounds which is hardly surprising given that even people from ethnic backgrounds may quite like the performing arts and even (and this may be a revelation to you so hang on to your britches) take part in them


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