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kwikbreaks 28-06-2012 20:18

T-Mobile / Orange switching
 
I can see a VM customer SIM only deal that would suit me but the coverage map for T-Mobile which appears to be the default Virgin network is very patchy near my home which is where it would mostly be used. Orange looks to be better although I never trust any of the mobile coverage maps as I've found all of them to be optimistic.

My question is will the phone (plain old 2G one my wife mainly uses for texting) be likely to seamlessly switch over to Orange if the signal is poor rather than non-existent or would I do better digging deeper into my pocket and getting something O2/Vodafone based which both do work well here.

grim reaper 28-06-2012 20:23

Re: T-Mobile / Orange switching
 
yep ... if there is no t-mobile signal available the phone should automatically switch to orange ..... you can see the difference on your phones screen as when on t-mobile signal it will show Virgin (capital V) whilst if on an orange signal it will show virgin (lowercase v)

kwikbreaks 28-06-2012 20:35

Re: T-Mobile / Orange switching
 
It was the "non-existent" bit in the blurb that bothered me - there probably would be a T-Mobile signal but at Norman Collier quality level. For those too young or too cultured to know what I mean by that - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYpQyJ_bTiw

BenMcr 28-06-2012 20:45

Re: T-Mobile / Orange switching
 
I think it's cleverer than that now i.e. it'll use the best quality signal available

Peter_ 28-06-2012 23:50

Re: T-Mobile / Orange switching
 
It seamlessly switches between the 2 networks without a hiccup the only way you can tell if it has switched is by looking at the screen.

I never know which network my phone is on unless I look.;)

Matth 29-06-2012 01:44

Re: T-Mobile / Orange switching
 
I can manually select Orange, while using a Virgin Sim, tieing it to Orange though, with no chance to select Virgin (the T-mobile side).
In auto, it will prefer Virgin (T-mob) when available, but how poor it has to be before it will step over to Orange, I'm not sure, so YMMV - if you force Orange as a manual network selection, then you will ONLY get Orange coverage, so it will not hunt back to Virgin

carmad 29-06-2012 09:20

Re: T-Mobile / Orange switching
 
I can received both orange and T Mobile and it seamlessly switches to the strongest signal at the time.

kwikbreaks 29-06-2012 09:41

Re: T-Mobile / Orange switching
 
Thank folks - I'll give it a spin - as it's only a 30 day contract the loss is negligible if it proves to be poor.

Peter_ 29-06-2012 10:11

Re: T-Mobile / Orange switching
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kwikbreaks (Post 35447786)
Thank folks - I'll give it a spin - as it's only a 30 day contract the loss is negligible if it proves to be poor.

My wife is on that contract and it is good value.

Jinxey 29-06-2012 12:20

Re: T-Mobile / Orange switching
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35447654)
I think it's cleverer than that now i.e. it'll use the best quality signal available

I find this. I'm on Orange and there is a Orange 3G signal by me, although the T-Mobile 3G signal is stronger. I find around 99% of time I am using the T-Mobile signal.

kwikbreaks 30-06-2012 21:04

Re: T-Mobile / Orange switching
 
Well it seems to be working just fine - I'm sure I'll be the first to hear if there are any hiccups...

chrispy2000 09-07-2012 21:27

Re: T-Mobile / Orange switching
 
Quote:

I can received both orange and T Mobile and it seamlessly switches to the strongest signal at the time.
I wish mine switched seamlessly.
I use a iPhone 4 and when it's on Orange I can't send any text. A real pain.

Stephen 10-07-2012 11:09

Re: T-Mobile / Orange switching
 
I now spend more time on the Orange(virgin) network as the signal seems to be stronger where I am. Even when I go in and manually select the T-Mobile(Virgin) network, it still switches over to virgin from Virgin.

Gadgie 27-07-2012 22:44

Re: T-Mobile / Orange switching
 
I am presently with T Mobile on a 24 month contract, that is far too expensive, is it possible for me to change over as well as keep my existing number?


02 Mobile, have a present deal which works out at Half the Price I am paying T Mobile!

I've read my contract, and it says I can opt out of the contract, but I want to know if anyone has managed that in the past.;)

alferret 01-08-2012 11:11

Re: T-Mobile / Orange switching
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gadgie (Post 35457096)

I've read my contract, and it says I can opt out of the contract, but I want to know if anyone has managed that in the past.;)

My wife opted out of her contract a few years ago & it cost half of the contract that was left which was £60'ish IIRC but the savings on the new contract outweighed the buyout by another £20. This was with Voda in 07.

Mad Max 02-08-2012 20:38

Re: T-Mobile / Orange switching
 
The signal is crap! even with the addition of Orange, Virgin mobile signal for me is total rubbish, i'll be switching to o2 as soon as the new iphone is available.

Vieil Homme 17-08-2012 11:49

Re: T-Mobile / Orange switching
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35459175)
The signal is crap! even with the addition of Orange, Virgin mobile signal for me is total rubbish, i'll be switching to o2 as soon as the new iphone is available.

Don't know your location but if you were on Campus at Kent Uni you would find the complete opposite O2 is total rubbish as you put it. I'm on T-Mobile / Orange and it works for me in my area and Kent Uni, Im on a sim only deal @ £10.50 per month that gives me 300 min to any mobile 300 text and 1Gb of data which includes tethering plus the free bolt-on of unlimited Landline calls which is a good deal. Regarding the switching when on Orange 3G its not as fast as the T-mobile network. I'm always looking for the beter deal but there is always a spanner in the works ie on the 3 network the Natwest App does not work, they may of fixed it now....

Vieil Homme 21-08-2012 12:18

G4 Mobile
 
Orange and T-mobile has been given the go-ahead to launch superfast 4G mobile access. Will this mean Virgin mobile will get it aswell? Can't wait just need a G4 Mobile

Gadgie 04-09-2012 23:19

Re: T-Mobile / Orange switching
 
Before T mobile joined up with Orange, my mobile phone signal wasn't all that good?

For example, I could never get good a signal in my local neighbourhood, but since the team up, its full strength;)

spankysmagicpian 16-01-2013 12:26

Re: T-Mobile / Orange switching
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chrispy2000 (Post 35451271)
I wish mine switched seamlessly.
I use a iPhone 4 and when it's on Orange I can't send any text. A real pain.

Sorry to bump this old thread. Does anyone know if this has been fixed or anyone else has had the same problem?

Mine has been doing it the last few weeks - texts go fine on Virgin, fail when on Orange.

Jameseh 16-01-2013 14:33

Re: T-Mobile / Orange switching
 
Surely it would always say Virgin now as T-Mobile & Orange have fully merged so Virgin is just like every other MVNO.

BenMcr 16-01-2013 14:52

Re: T-Mobile / Orange switching
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35523836)
Surely it would always say Virgin now as T-Mobile & Orange have fully merged so Virgin is just like every other MVNO.

They haven't full merged though, the mast networks are still technically separate as far as I know.

All that's changed is EE now have put 'EE' across the network for their own customers so no-one sees any difference.

Virgin customers still see the big / little 'v'

qasdfdsaq 16-01-2013 22:17

Re: T-Mobile / Orange switching
 
Each network still broadcasts its own network code - 234-30 for T-Mobile and 234-33 for Orange. Indeed, the new 4G EE network uses T-Mobile's 234-30 code.

Phones come shipped with a lookup table that maps these codes to network names. The phone can also read this data from the SIM card, thus overriding (but not updating) it's internal data. EE have updated their SIM cards to map both 234-30 and 234-33 to the name "EE", Virgin Mobile have been mapping 234-30 to "Virgin" for a decade, and may now include 234-33 as well, though whether existing customers see that depend on whether their SIM cards are remotely reprogrammable.


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