Cameron leaves daughter at pub.
 

And this fool is running our country:confused::confused:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...ter-lunch.html

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What a plonker.

Would Downing street say "The PM and Samantha weren't too bothered when they realised Nancy wasn't with them" if they weren't too bothered?

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Seems like a genuine mixup to me? Not really sure how it reflects on him as a PM ;)

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They can't count to three, there were 2 cars one with his wife and the kids and the other one with him and his CPS blokes in.

Total fool.

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A bit harsh there Gary as most of us make mistakes in our life but of course l suspect you are Polly perfect and have never made a mistake or forgotten something it seems.

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I think David Cameron was just trying to be consistent when he left his own daughter in a pub.

After all, he's already abandoned millions of other people's children hasn't he??

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l think the problem is this thread is becoming very political and to be perfectly honest politics really should have nothing to do with it.:)

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Harsh with what?

I'm just saying that they said they were distraught. would they say they weren't bothered if they weren't bothered?

I have forgotten my keys a few times. so no, I'm not perfect.

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Error.

They were there with two other families - he left in his official car, she went in another car, so there was probably three or four cars..

We've been out for Sunday lunches like that, with a bunch of families, and the kids usually want to travel back with their friends, not family.

It was a mix-up, not a disaster.

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I'm on about Cameron not the famlies who were with them. If you want to look at it at that angle you can clearly say him and his wife haven't got a clue. Simple really.

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Well, no actually - he's saving future generations of Children by not leaving them with huge public debts that the last Labour government created.

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Off topic, but to make the children of the future happy. should the children have to suffer today?

I think because of who he is and the way responsibility is taken care of for him. he probably doesn't think like the way we as parents would when it comes to 'who's got little Johnny?'

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I've been up the town with my sister had her kids, We have left the shop and in the next shop she said where was he (we both thought he was with the other), I ran back to the shop and they said he was buy the securtiy desk as I reached it the put a tannoy out for my sister, and wouldn't release him to me.

He knew not to leaf the shop and spoke to a member of staff.

It happens, no harm done, the daughter was proberly unaware mum & dad had gone.

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Blimey has it really taken that long for one of the pub's workers to sell the story to the ****?

Interesting they have chosen this week to run the story with DC in front of Leveson.....

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Maybe Social Services will step in with all the publicity surrounding this and for once he will see it from the sharp end.

We know in reality that will never happen due to who he is, but if it was you or me appearing in the news in similar circumstances we would have them on us in a flash.

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Well I just hope little Nancy's got over it by now.

and that Dave has found a new pub that won't grass him up :)

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Another example of an extremely judgemental attitude.Someone has to be blamed for something..even if they aren't guilty of anything in particular except being a harassed parent.

I see the Sun is putting the boot in again..They aren't going to forgive Cameron for the Leveson Inquiry any time soon..So as far as I'm concerned this is an attempt at a smear campaign..by Murdoch's press..and you followed it hook,line and sinker.:D

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It is a pathetic attempt at a Smear campaign - It's a complete and utter non-story.

About 37 years ago, my dear mum, having just become a mother for the first time ever, left her son, my brother, at the supermarket in his pram. She went home, started packing her shopping away and felt something was missing, to her complete horror, she realised her massive error and rushed back to the supermarket where she had left him. We laugh about it whenever it gets mentioned.

Sounds bad but in no way did it make her a rubbish parent and she went on to have four more children, including moi. Crap like this happens every day.

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To be honest, I find it hard to understand how someone would 'forget' their kid anywhere,l but listening to the radio phone in this morning, a lot of mothers were phoning in saying how they had forgotten their kids in places ranging from shops to bus stops! It happens - no one forget's their kids on purpose, and what difference does it make that the PM did it as opposed to any other parent. We cant measure his ability to run the country on this, and I think rather than being ov erly critical, we should be thankful that no harm came to her!

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:clap:

And at least he has not called his voters bigoted has he :LOL:

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There's absolutely no need to use this as a measure of his competence in running the country, he's already proven to be out of touch, out of his depth and completely useless.

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I'd be interested to know what he does call us behind closed doors or when he thinks the mikes of, wonder if he'd have a better or worse opinion of us plebs

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Stick to the topic people please, this is not a political thread,

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Mary and Joseph managed to leave Jesus behind after a family trip to Jerusalem so I reckon Dave and Sam are in the best of company. Chillax, people, there's nothing to see here ...

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Please. don't bring religion into it.

besides, Jesus was 12 at the time. Nancy's only 8 and she's a girl :D

and we don't know if it's true anyway.

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He was (is) also the Son of God. But this is about the fitness of the parents, not the resourcefulness of the child. God didn't fire them from being the Earthly carers of the Son of God as a result of the incident. But then God is a little more wise than some of the tedious chatterers who were so quick to forget their own mistakes, and those of their own parents, in the rush to stick the knife into David Cameron this morning.

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Amen to that, Chris.

incidently my mother and father didn't leave me anywhere.
my sister did though. at the park. I was crying all the way home behind her. my little legs couldn't catch her up.

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What does this say about the security around our PM and his family? I doubt very much the Secret Service would allow Obama's kids to be left somewhere unattended by mistake.

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the Camerons are damned lucky someone did not put two and two together and take the girl all it would have taken is one person to connect the dotes and we'd have had the PM's child hostage or god help us a lot worse who ever it head of PM's security needs to be giveing a good talking to.

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This is what happens when you make cutbacks.

assuming he has made cutbacks on his security.

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Its just an excuse for the anti Tory people to have a good rant :LOL:

By the way did any see that there are real problems going on in the world or had you all forgotten about those while you were slobbering at the mouth having a dig at Cameron

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There can't be. someone would have put a post about it in current affairs :)

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Well here's a hint

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-18391899

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I got lost in Brixton when i was 5 years old! Somebody took me to the Police Station.
Thank you that kind person.:D

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big fuss over nothing

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Indeed and it kept Gary L busy today :LOL:

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maybe cameron should give his daughter one those hi viz jackets that gary's banging on about in his other thread :D

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No doubt this will attract pelters from the Tory Fan boys but it's a concern when a leader of the country is involved in such irresponsible behaviour.

It doesn't matter who else was there it is ultimately the responsiblity of parents to look after their own children.

I wonder if you would have all been so dismissive of the "non-story" if a young inner city couple leave a child in a pub for 10 minutes and in that time the friendly local paedo offers to give the child a lift home.

It doesn't matter if he's tory, labour, liberal or monster raving looney; I'd question anyone's ability to look after the important things in the country, if they can't look after the important things in their own personal lives.

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As I mentioned earlier in this thread if anyone of us posting in this thread had left their child in similar circumstances and the story was given to the local media who then printed an article in the local paper, we would receive a visit from local Social Services and possibly even put on the at risk register, but because of who he is nothing of the sort will happen.

Double standards anybody?

The should be equality in such matters but all that happens is a convoluted thread talks about the rights and wrongs of who supports which party, politics should have no bearing in such cases.

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I wonder if the **** would have bothered covering it if it was you or me instead of Cameron ?

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As much as I dislike "we're all in this together, call me Dave" this is an accident that could happen to any parent it's a storm in a teacup

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Tell that to the newspapers who are doing anything to big this up to take the heat of them for a change.

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Mainstream newspapers will cover this because of who it is but they would not mention us unless we were flying out to Malta as per this Daily Fail article.

As above we might get a mention in the local rag.

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Indeed, the red tops really are a fickle bunch

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I can't say I agree. I don't know of any parents who have left a pub and accidentally left their children, or a child behind. Surely that can't be that common?

I do know of a friends Uncle how pushed the pram down to the newsagent in the 1960s and returned with the Sunday papers and some pipe tobacco.... baby in pram was collected later.... oops. Quite loopy the gentleman in question and it was a different era.

He was never likely to be given a responsible post such as supervisor of the bin crew he worked with... never mind leader of a country.

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Replace pub with shop, theme park, swimming pool etc. I would guess that it's not entirely uncommon for both parents to think the child is with the other parent.

OK, so it's a stupid thing to happen, but thankfully in this instance no harm done, and I certainly don't see how this can be used to call his credentials as leader of the country into question. As much as I hate the smarmy goit

Unless, they weren't having drinks with the Mcanns were they ?:erm:

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They are doing it because Cameron is dead meat in a few months.

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If "Call me Dave" likes 3 or 4 glasses of wine with his lunch, how come all those policemen who guard him, allowed him to DRIVE back to the pub to collect his daughter, and after getting behind the wheel why didn't one of them give him a breath test.

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Ah, the old "take two different stories and conflate them into one" ploy.....

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Because we have double standards in place but if you drove out of the same pub after consuming a similar amount they would probably get you pulled over to show how aware they were.

It would not matter who was primeminister at the time as no one would breathalyze him or her.

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I see this thread has dropped to the level of fantasy ranting.

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So if he or anyone else has had a drink should they be allowed to drive even if with a police protection team, the only answer is no as no one is above the law now if that is a fantasy I wonder what world you are in.:rolleyes:

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Or perhaps it's just an example of how prone to hyperbole we have become as a nation?
We either veer from overly sympathetic to overly judgemental attitudes with a state of hyper panic in between....We need to get back to level headed thinking with a good strong dose of common sense applied.

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Or perhaps it's more likely that David Cameron was either not above the legal limit, or, more likely still, didn't actually drive the car back to the pub, because he is not above the law and would have been prevented from breaking it by the POLICEMEN that follow him around everywhere.

For pity's sake.

:dozey:

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How do you know he was above the limit?

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Because he is both posh and a Tory, and is therefore doubly evil. Apparently.

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I'd be surprised if he drives anywhere himself. I would assume he's generally too busy and spends his travelling time in the back of a car talking to advisors or going over documents.

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The drinking wine bit doesn't come from this incident.
In this instance:-

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Who said he was, but he may have been but if his protection detail drove it is of no consequence, but if they were there surely they would be aware of the child.

Now a little bit of perspective, if this were the other fools Brown, Blair or Milliband all the tory supporters would be over this thread like a rash giving vent to their anger, now as its Cameron they are instead rushing to protect him, now I personally do not care if it was any of the above as it should not have happened regardless of who they are.

Do not protect a person simply because he is the leader of your favoured party as it should not happen and it shows them for up for being careless.

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Try reading the above without your blue tinted glasses as it is not quite what you envisage.

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:D:D

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Equally, do not attack a person because he is the leader of the party you oppose. Instead, take things at face value. Yes, it's a stupid thing to do. People do stupid things. It doesn't look good for a PM, but hey, he's human and has plenty on his mind. Stop being petty.

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Exactly - I'm not a Conmeron fan, but it happens. It was a stupid, careless thing to do, and one thing that this episode proves, is that ANYONE can make that mistake. As long as he learns from it and is more vigalent going forward, then that's the most important thing.

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Because he had three maybe four then again it could have been five glasses of wine.

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Couple I knew (with their two children aged 4/5) were travelling in France : they where at an underground train station....parents got on the train...as the doors closed and the train pulled away they looked around and saw their two children holding hands still stood on the platform ! ! !

What would you do ? ? ? :shocked:

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a) Where on earth does it say that on this specific occasion, he was drinking wine, never mind how many glasses.:rolleyes:
b) The protection people would have been driving because they are the ones trained in evasive driving manoeuvres.

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The article (which is in the Sun, and should be treated as such), says Cameron enjoys having 3 or 4 glasses of wine with his lunch. It doesn't say he had 3 or 4 glasses of wine with this lunch.

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Link, please.

btw, Sky News.....

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So were they all that ****ed they couldn't remember who went back?:D

Think I'll try there next Sunday. Sounds fun.;)

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Who attacked him I believe it was the **** news rag and certainly not me as I would think equally as badly about any high profile person becoming a news item because they failed to in their duty to protect their child, is that an attack or how it should be viewed.

Do remember this was the act of a parent not the primeminister and you would be posting the opposite if it was just a parent who was out with his child so the child should take precedence as it is a time of relaxation as he was not sitting in the commons.

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You noticed that as well ;)

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Wave at them.

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Do you mean the Sun that supported them through the elections?? :shocked:

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The Times (iPad edition) reported today he had one pint, and also that his wife went to pick the child up (as linked to above in the Sky News article).

The driving after 3, 4, or 5 glasses of wine theory appears to be unfounded....

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How much did she have to drink?
does it say on The Times (iPad edition)?

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I wonder if, every time an announcement is made in a shopping centre or department store that a child has been found wandering unattended and could the parents come to the information desk, the local Social Services are called in and the family put on the at risk register?

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It didn't.

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To be fair, it's not really the same because the parents are usually still in the store. or the child wandered off.

now if the parents had driven all the way home without them?

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It doesn't matter who picked their daughter up, as somebody else(police protection) would have been driving. All that would have been mentioned is who actually went into the pub to collect her.

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Like those plodders would stop him, we had one on the door of downing street for years and Maggy still got out.

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Even his shoes have a driver or was that our glorious mayor, these posh Tory sorts all look the same to Me

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And the posh Labour sorts who, when in Government, also had drivers, obviously.....

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Main difference obviously being you can't tell the difference between any of them anymore, a shower of much of a muchness these days imo with precious few redeeming features.

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Is correct.

It's amazing how often criticism of one side or t'other brings a comparison response.
The reality is there's not the thickness of a cigarette paper between the lot of them. :(

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I think this what you meant.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4953922.stm

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Thank you for that six year old article...

How would you suggest he carried the many boxes of papers he took home most nights?

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How is anyone expected to carry anything to and from work, when they're encouraged to cycle to work.

I think the point was that Dave was trying to look green and doing all that saving of the planet thing. but a car was still being used. a car which he may as well have sat in for all the good it was doing.

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You should not state you are doing one thing but have your driver do the opposite.

Remember at that time he was not primeminister at the time very little to take home,and the above poster could not remember the facts nor could Cameron at the time as he was trying to say how green his credentials were, abject fail.

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Exactly but remember tory fans will not see it as a plain simple fact rather their saviour acting as a god.

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Another thing to point out is that bicycles do not send any kind of rays (green or otherwise) out to the sky as it's in motion.

the whole point is to leave the car polluting thing at home.
not have it follow behind you with your briefcase on the back seat.

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At the time though he thought he had got away with it except he forgot about those pesky reporters with their camera's ready to foil his plan.:D

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There was no reason he couldn't carry on cycling to work and still have his briefcase follow him in the car.
there's other benefits to cycling.

he wouldn't be half as porky as he is today :)

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Loathe as i am to point out the blatently obvious to some of you but this happened months ago and only now on the week david cameron is giving his evidence at leveson does this story come out. Wake up and smell the murdoch coffee for christs sake i am by nature a tory but no supporter of cameron but this story is a pathetic attempt at smear at a time the murdochs think they can cause the most trouble.

What really makes me laugh is half the people in this thread taking cheap shots at cameron over this were the same slating the murdochs and here they are falling for the most blatent murdoch crap going. Loathe the man, love the man be you labour, tory or liberal this is about none of that and is all about the murdochs trying to pull the publics strings.

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:clap: Well said :tu:

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If Dave cannot be responsible for looking after his own children, then how can he be repsonsible for running the country?

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What about much higher Uni Fees and a worse jobs market?

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He is part of the problem!

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Tell me if this was about Ed Milliband would you be as vociferous? I suspect not..

I'm sick of the judgemental holier than thou society we have become..Always seeking to kick people when they are down or make honest mistakes and seldom laying the blame where it should lie..

To quote one famous historical person.Take the mote out of your own eye before judging others.:mad:

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If it was Ed Milliband I would say the same (I am not exactly a fan of him either), we all make mistakes (this is one I can let the PM off), but Dave is not just good enough as PM and for his sake, his familes sake and the countries sake, he and his government (Clegg, Osborne etc) should resign and call new elections

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Fine I am sorry, I was just saying my point alright!