Are you a Royalist ?
 

Given it's Diamond Jubilee year I thought it would be interesting to see how many supporters of a Monarchy are still out there so i have included a poll with 4 questions

Let the civil war commence

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My feelings on the Royal Family are "meh!", as in I have no strong feelings either way.

I am uncomfortable with a Hereditary Monarchy, but think they do a (mostly) good job in pulling the tourists in and being "ambassadors" for the country.

So, in summary, not bothered either way.

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I'm with Hugh on this one. Well put :tu:

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Always have been a Royalist, always will be. Rule Britannia :)

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What Russ said :tu:

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YES

I think that makes it clear :)

I swore allegiance to Her Majesty and that still stands to this day and will continue to do so till the day i go to my grave.

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Marty, how about a "not bothered either way" voting option, please?

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Why do you have a third answer when yes or no will suffice? :confused:

As Marty said, that third option should be "Meh!" :p:

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My niece was saying the other day about it all.
"wow bloody wee. what does she do?"

she's only 8.

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l concur with Russ 100%.:)

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On the whole I believe that we benefit from having a Royal Family so I guess I am a Royalist.

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Here you go - amaze your niece by answering her question....

Link

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If you want to add that option then go ahead and add if you can

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Thanks - done.

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the third option is for those who have supported a Monarchy but think it is not relevant in todays society and should pass into history gracefully

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And yet you didn't think to put in the one other option that people have subsequently asked for? :confused: :D

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I think she's just wanting her to have peoples heads chopped off and stuff.

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For me it'd depend entirely on the monarchs concerned. Given some of the dodgy 'royals' around the globe, I certainly wouldn't be a royalist in those places.

Having said that, IMHO the Queen has set a very high standard and there's no doubting in my mind that our royal family bring in to UK PLC far more than they take out (in spite of the likes of 'Airmiles Andy' and the various hangers on). It'd just be nice to know that her successor(s) will do an equally impressive job... :erm:

My vote is for the monarchy therefore, but based upon current experience rather than blind faith that it's always a good thing.

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I did actually but thought that those who have the "meh" opinion wouldn't bother to vote or comment in a thread they have no interest in

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It's the norm to put the "I don't care" option in all polls here. for the ones who always have a moan about there not being an "I don't care" option.

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As a tax payer I do support the Monarchy but I've answered No to the intended meaning of the question;)

I wish no harm on any of the individuals who make up the Royal Family. Indeed, I quite admire some of them for a variety of reasons.

It's the symbolism of the Monarchy that props up a class system that I personally believe is unhealthy for our Society. That's my reason for voting No.

I see no reason why any child born in our Society shouldn't aspire to one day become head of the State. It can't happen as things stand

I was brought up to believe in equality and that I was the equal of any other person. I therefore don't think I'd ever bow in deference to anybody simply because of their bloodline.

If any of the Princes knocked on my door I'd treat them with the same respect that I'd afford any other individual. I'd shake their hands, but I wouldn't bow to them.

I will, however, raise a glass to Her Majesty and wish all of you celebrating her Jubilee to have a fantastic time. ;):beer:

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I think for once France has it right.http://www.addemoticons.com/emoticon...icons04224.gif

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You would be wrong....

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Carl - leave it, eh?

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You obviously know her better than me then.

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Put it so much better than I could - totally agree.

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But you don't have to. If you want to treat any of the Royals as you would a person in the street then you are allowed to do so.

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I know mate.

I'll be slaughtered by the press though when I'm waiting to be knighted. ;)

There aren't too many people in my street who are in line to the throne so I haven't had much chance to practice not bowing... although there is the old guy at number 7 who has a corgi, perhaps I should practice not bowing to him as a first step. :)

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I realise that now ,next time i'll pm you for advice on setting up a poll;)

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Here's me thinking that those who don't care wouldn't bother reading the thread :rolleyes:

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Yeah. You'd think that wouldn't you. Such is the internet that that doesn't happen :D

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They have to read the thread to determine whether they care or not.

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Should we have a poll about whether polls should automatically include a "don't care" option.

I would set it up but it's not important to me;)

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Monarchy or republic there will always be a class system and it will be based on who has most money and property much of it inherited.You only have to look at the French which still have a class system despite all their claims tot he contrary and it's based on wealth and property like every other republic. :rolleyes:

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Many years ago it would have been a 'Not bothered option'. Today. I have a lot of respect for the Monachy. It's a status symbol of Britain and holds a lot of Historical Values.

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I don't particularly like the idea of a hereditary monarchy, but...

... I'd rather have a monarch than a President Blair.

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:tu:


Merely the thought makes me feel quick sick! :D

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totally agree ,look at the USA it's never had a Monarchy and in my opinion it's class system is more prominent than most countries that have or used to have.
I think we have the balance just about right between the power of the Monarchy and the state

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We benefit mainly from having moulded it to suit our needs and I'm a massive fan if for no other reason than it saved us from president Blair or president Dave. That said the class system and old.boys network they sit at the head of is imo in need of massive reform

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Not radical reform though eh? :erm: :D

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:LOL:

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Here is my view on the monarchy. I don't like the parts of it that Republicans claim it represents. I don't like the idea of inequality, of a higher class of person or of special privilege because of the family you are born into.

However I don't think that's what they, or at least the current Queen, represent. I think it's nice to have a head of state that is removed from politics. When we open the Olympic games it will be the Queen and not the current Prime Minster who will forever be associated with that moment. I think that's quite nice and very handy. We can represent the country with a figurehead who is largely free from political baggage.

I also think a lot of the people celebrating this weekend are celebrating Britain and the British and she is representing that. It's an excuse for a party and for national celebration.

It may change if Prince Charles becomes King and doesn't keep his opinions to himself but for now I like the current system.

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Gawd bless her..

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That'll be the French way entering the debate again.

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I'm proud to be British and have a Monarchy.

Look at the US, they don't have a Monarchy and have semi adopetd ours.

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To be fair, neither William nor Harry would be looking for a bow.

Our monarchy has survived by adapting to each generation's expectations of it. I don't think it's fair to say it props up the class system just because it once did.

As for aspirations ... Any of our children can aspire to comparable executive power that a president like Obama or Hollande has. In the UK those powers are exercised by the prime minister, whether he is acting in the name of the sovereign or whether she is acting on advice from her ministers.

What they can't aspire to is to represent us as a nation as head of state. To be honest I think that's a very small price to pay for the advantage of never having to suffer a partisan political figure representing us, or, possibly worse, some washed up celeb.

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Well look to Europe to see some of the worst examples of Presidents .So many accusations of corruption,licentiousness and greed..
Yes the Royal Family are not perfect but their peccadilloes are nothing in comparison to say Silvio Berlusconi.

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Sorted that for you ;)

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My assumption therefore would be that you are not one? :D

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That royal barge was an embarrassment.......looked like a gilded floating bathtub :(

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A perfectionist? You assume wrongly, that's whey I edited:D

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I vote in favour of the Monarchy only because they keep the position of Head of State occupied. This prevents some numpty being voted in as President. Sadly this goes wrong with our next step. I can't help feeling there are going to be problems with Charles stepping into position.

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The monarchy these days seems little more than a novelty for this country, but it does have crowd pulling potential, which can only be a good thing for tourism and the economy

Plus the high profile status of the royals and their support for charities, does seem to help with fund raising and whatnot.

So it might as well be kept.

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My oath stands as much to me now as it did when i took it so yes i am in complete favour of them. We often see as a means of attack on the royals "what do they do" and the answer is they do a hell of a lot for this country but don't shout it from the rooftops our economy has benefited a lot from the personal interventions of senior royals over the years and they continue to work in the countrys interest now. Hell if our politicians took the same attitude we might actually solve some of our problems.

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No I am not a Royalist. But I will take the extra day off of work. Thank you ma'am.

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Can I ask why you dislike Charles so much?What in particular has he done to make so many suspicious of his ability to be a good king?:confused:

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No, a Royalist haha :D

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The British monarchy has survived into the 21st century by transforming itself from a political leader of the nation to being a moral leader. Elizabeth II is an exemplar of hard work, service and devotion (which is why all the republican whingeing bounces off her, and the institution she heads, like arrows off tank armour). Charles will no doubt perform his constitutional duties perfectly well, but he is not held in the same esteem as his mother because he is judged to be the villain of the piece so far as his marriage to, and divorce from, Diana is concerned.

Personally I have no doubt that he should be king when Elizabeth eventually dies because that is how the system works. If we select a monarch on a short-term measure of public popularity, we no longer have a hereditary monarchy, just some awful constitutional x-factor contest. But he will have to work doubly hard to earn the same respect his mother has ( except in Scotland, oddly, where the notion of the crown passing directly to William attracts less support in opinion polls than it does in England).

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Well it takes two to make or break a marriage.Some people would do well to reflect that someone should have taken a good long look at the pair of them before commending the pairing.They were pretty incompatible in many areas.She hated all the activities that the Royal Family enjoy such as horses and fishing/hunting and country activities.He wasn't that keen on ballet and nightclubs.She was not his first choice as we all know but the desperate need for an heir led to him having to choose a younger woman to ensure an heir to the throne because of pressure from all sides.Sadly she could not shake off an unhappy childhood due to her parent's divorce.Yes his affair perhaps wasn't wise but the heart wants what the heart wants and he is not the first member of the family who didn't marry wisely and he won't be the last.Diana wasn't a paragon of virtue by any means and she should never,never have married a man almost twice her age.I wonder who was giving her any advice at the time because if they encouraged her they did her a disservice.

Now where did I put that flame retardant suit?

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I have no doubt, Maggy, not least because I used to work for someone who was directly involved with the Royal household at the time, was in a position to know, and, despite being very discreet whenever we tried to get anecdotes out of him, would say that "when she was good, she was very, very good - but when she was bad, she was very, very bad." ;)

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I have no doubt that modern royals are not the exception ,i daresay that past royals got up to similar shenanigans but wasn't widely publicized A) because of the status of the royals in those times and B) because it was easier to keep your private life private

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Sky News and, to a slightly lesser extent, BBC Television News have been quite dismissive and patronising towards Republicans over this weekend. I was watching Sky News yesterday and they stopped just short of open derision when discussing them. There was no attempt to present them as anything other than a bunch of crazy mean-spirited lunatics. I am not a Republican but you would expect news organisations to cover them fairly, they may not be a large minority but their views are hardly outlandish or out of order.

Credit to BBC Radio (5 Live and 4) who seemed to be canvassing ant-Royal sentiment alongside the pro-Royals and not doing it in a mocking fashion.

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Republicans are all at work mate. Refusing to take holidays to celebrate Royal occassions. Too busy to watch the TV so the broadcasters can fawn over the remaining viewers:D

Seriously though, even the most resolute republican shouldn't even attempt to give a soundbite on a weekend such as this.... no matter how valid the point is, it can only come across as PARTY POOPER. ;)

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Amyone watch the coverage tonight? Charles called his mother, mummy :)

and that Cheryl Bloody Cole was on it. she still hasn't learned how to sing.

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yeah, it wasn't bad. there were some cringeworthy moments including Cheryl Tweedy but hey the Queens brought us altogether :)

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hard on the ears. Rather pleasing on the eye though. :naughty:

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Who's Cheryl Tweedy?

That William was useless. he didn't even sing with Stevie Wonder.

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yeah but you could easily break her LR

Cheryl Tweedy Gary is the person under the fake front put on.

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I would yes. but I wouldn't because I just know she'd want to sing to me eventually ;)

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I didn't catch it all because I was putting the kids to bed.

Who was the older lady who helped Gary Barlow on near the end?

Did they do a duet?

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Gaffa tape is reduced on screwfix.com this week. ;)

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^ funny

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Gaffa tape blocks the mouth though.

I suppose she could always breathe through her nose :)

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Didn't watch any of the Jubilee stuff, but I did watch Prince Charles' speech to the queen.

When you watch the Queen, she seems so....reserved? Rarely smiles or even acknowledges praise, or the collective cheers from the crowd.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18324080

Always found that a little odd.

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I know. it is a bit disappointing when she doesn't smile in acknowledgement sometimes.
she must come across as a right misery to outsiders watching.

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I've had the unfortunate experience of hearing Cheryl singing (Good Daddy, spoiled daughters.... blah blah).. my ears may not be tuned to the torturous noises that emits from the attractive Geordie but I'm pretty sure they can't be coming from her mouth. If you want to stop her singing to you I'd try Gaffa on the nostrils first. (Other industrial tapes and orifices are available)

Anyway it's time for me to take of my Geri Halliwell dress and become a republican again.

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I hope it does come from the nose. if it transpires that it does actually come from the mouth, then I'll have to find something to block the tonsils.

then seal it up with the Gaffa or other brands that are available.

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I'm just hoping that those individuals who spout "we're not allowed to be British in case it offends Muslims" etc etc managed to have a look out of the window over the last few days.

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God. trust you to go and spoil the party atmosphere :D

Why, have the muslims been protesting again while we were being British?

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Not that I'm aware of. But Mail and Sun readers are always telling us that we're being 'banned from celebrating Britishness' etc. There are often stories of how someone was 'banned from flying the British flag', all of which turn out to be rubbish.

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Well some British are proud to be British. and if it means someone being offended then we'll be British even more.

if somebody doesn't like it, then there's airports where they can go and get on a plane.

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For three hours? :Yikes:

Calling Doctor Tanya .... :erm: :D

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Just my luck that they chose War and Peace for their bedtime story;)

Thank God it was the abridged version!

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To be honest while I think our Queen is a good head of state, I feel that after she passes away, we should become a republic, to do that we would need to hand the Crown Estates to the Royals!

However by the time Liz passes will there be even a UK left to rule?

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Yes there will, as you well know.

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Thats up to Scotland, still think that William will not be king, you have to also note that even if we become a republic tomorrow and embraced a Irish style Head of State, guess who would take up that role...(the one with 60 years experence as head of state)

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What have I done wrong now?

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Alright fine, sorry about that!