Season 2012/2013
 

All discussion relating to next season and the pre-season before it can go in here. Discussion about the European Champions should go in this topic: http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/88...ro-2012-a.html.

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Van persie for Man City..you read it here first :D

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Yes l think Arsenal look to have lost the battle to keep him it seems.

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to me all this talk of him leaving is over the top at the moment. he's asked for a squad able to compete, that doesn't happen over night. we have a lot of players to shift and bring in but hey if it acts as a smokescreen to aid us with the overhaul so be it

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I think Villa need two new wingers and two central defenders as we do have some goalscorers Gabby and Bent and if we can have them two upfront then delivery is all we need to crack and the goals will come not loads but enough to have a better season.

Plus we need a new manager (Paul Lambert please)

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I thought you would need to sell Bent to get money to buy players?

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Yes l think Lambert would be a very good choice as manager and since you lost Downing and Young the side has lacked good width.

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Diame to hold talks with suitors
Senegal international allowed to leave squad for talks

www1.skysports.com/football/news/11682/7782307/Diame-to-hold-talks-with-suitors

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Just right for your midfield.;)

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not sure

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18232319

Here we go again.

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Well lets hope this is not the case because if it is true then Italian football will never recover from another bribery scandal.

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Apparently Fernando Llorente has agreed a €25 million transfer with Arsenal and will move in the next few days....


Replacement for Van Persie.

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Also Eden Hazard has made his mind up as to where he is going, but has still told no one.

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Llorente has excellent technigue for a tall player and is pretty good in the air too and Hazard l suspect will go to one of the Manchester clubs.

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I think Hazard will go to Chelsea. Also i don't think the Llorente rumours are true, but we will see...

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Llorente rumours seem to have come from no where, it seems one of the sources is a a fake Twitter account. Hazard to Chelsea is all over Twitter but then so was Llorente last night.

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According to Twitter, Messi died after suffering a heart attack in training...

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/the...f-lionel-messi

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idiots

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Well according to this Hazard is set to seal Chelsea switch.

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/...chelsea-switch

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surely something needs to be done in Italy. Wasn't there another scandal in Seria B or lower down this season about match fixing, not it's alleged to be going on in the top flight again.

No doubt UEFA and FIFA will totally ignore this

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I don't know. The Italians seem be handling it and if players and/or clubs are found to be guilty UEFA and FIFA will hit them with bans.

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Juve got done a couple of seasons ago and relegated to serie c if my memory serves me well. And not allowed to play in Europe either for a while

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Hazard has confirmed he is signing for Chelsea.

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another one slipped through the net. So Chelsea are getting a stronger player, i'm sure City will too and we will still end up playing Giggs and Scholes at 38 and 39. Yes Scholes still players really well but we need to sign someone to play in the centre and replace him soon

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A excellent signing for them.

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Thats Torres and Hazard now which has Roman Abramovich written all over it. Part of a rebuild of Chelsea? So much for him reportedly not wanting to pump cash into Chelsea. Looks like he wants to build a super power alongside the new stadium build.

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Serbia are not in the Euro 2012 so I think this should be posted here

Serbia drop forward Adem Ljajic for refusing to sing national anthem before friendly with Spain

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...ith-Spain.html

the same guy who got in a little punch up with his club manager lol....

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/88...l#post35422878

he's also been linked to Arsenal :shocked: no thank you!!! Vargas may be as leftback but I'm unsure whether thats going down the Eboue route again. we already have Eboue mkII in Santos

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He's not as good as a lot of people are making out (i know its easy to say now he's not signing for us)

Eden Hazard: 192 apps, 50 goals and 30 assists.
Shinji Kagawa: 198 apps, 86 goals and 45 assists.

The German league is a better league than the French as well.

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Mum tells RVP to stay
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...-and-wife.html

I’ve got mother of all critics - RVP
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...y-success.html

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Well thenry us men must all do what Mum says as its unwise to upset your Mum.:)

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While the German league maybe better than the French you haven't taken into account that he scored 50 of those goals and made 30 of those assists playing in the Japanese 2nd division.

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Rumours are rife that Rodgers may be approached by the scousers. Hope not. If it doesn't work out he'll never be accepted back plus he'll forever have the stigma of being a former Liverpool manager.

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Christ l am glad you are not his assistant then as he would be out of the job before he had a chance to get his seat warm.:)

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Rodgers' odds have plummeted as reports that Liverpool have found their manager coincide with other reports that they have asked permission to talk to him.

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Yes its very interesting that the bookies make him 2-1 on suggesting this is a fast moving story in which by tonight we might have more to go by.

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Liverpool in Contract Talks with Brendan Rodgers.

http://www.kopsource.com/liverpool-i...endan-rodgers/

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whilst he might not be as good as everyone says i'd say the following

1) He can't be any worse than Giggs and will surely put in more effort
2) He can improve his game where as Giggs is on the decline.

I'd have taken him, although it's early in the pre-season so plenty of time for deals

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Are you telling me the French league is better than the Japanese 2nd division???? ;)


I still think Hazard has a lot to prove, he has basically had one good season with Lille. There is no doubt he has great potential, but so do a lot of other players that clubs are looking at. Some people have let the media circus surrounding Hazard make him the hottest property in football when really he isn't.

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Oh he has had many good years at Lille, he has been tracked for years and been amongst the top players in France for the last three or so years winning player of the year for the last two of them.

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Serie b mate, the had a couple of titles stripped and were band from Europe iirc.

we are in for zaha from place five million plus Baldock, yakubu one million and jaskalinan and McCarthy on frees, mulling over increasing our seven million bid for the heernavan striker to, good business providing we keep green to

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He says his little brother thorgen is better than him

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It's not looking good for Rodgers - rumours are rife around here that the deal has been done. I feel sorry for him,he doesn't deserve this.

On a more positive note, ripped from my Facebook this morning...

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Doesn't deserve what?.:)

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To be the manager of this Liverpool team.

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Rodgers would be crazy to go to Liverpool :shocked:

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But only time will be the judge and jury of whether its a success or not.:)

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Why?.

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LFC hasn't exactly been a great place for managers. Look at Hodgson. Great at his club before LFC and great job after LFC and then became England manager.

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Well confirmation will come in the next 48 hours.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18235961

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Brendan Rodgers has agreed a deal to become the new manager of Liverpool Football Club.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18235961

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you happy den?

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Yes l am pretty happy with the appointment and now l will look to see what type of tactics he will play and what players will be coming and out of the club and one suspects there are going to be quite a few changes in the next couple of months.:)

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Like most things..wait and see

Not a liverpool supporter..but if they play attractive football..i will watch

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Has Kenny left or moved upstairs? Is Louis Van Gaal still on as a director?

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I thought louis is not there..yet..and kenny has abdicated

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Sources suggest that Robin van Persie has agreed a new contract and will remain with Arsenal.

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please den don't. he's waiting for an overhaul.

btw Dzeko has apparently agreed terms with Bayern?

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'sources' is this(http://twitter.com/#!/BarclaysLeague) twitter account. Be very wary. The only people who would know RVP intentions are few and the rest are speculating. Obviously if he signed a new contract quite a few people would know about it but I think more reliable people would know that a random Twitter account.

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One of the reasons they are giving on TV for rodgers, was that Swansea took points off of liverpool.

Who hasn't this season? :D

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Oh dear oh dear oh dear it must have took you all day to think of that one Colin.:D;)

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lol..no..that was easy :D

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I'm not entirely sure this is right for anyone, neither Rodgers or Liverpool. Unless things dramatically change its another bent move. The owners seems to want change but will it be accepted? I honestly thought Liverpool would nab Louis Van Gaal as manager.

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Hulk to Chelsea done?

is this account real, if so why isn't it verified :mad:

Givanildo V. Souza ‏@OficialHulk
Thanks to all Chelsea fans, the beautiful messages of support! And I'm sorry for my english hahahah

http://twitter.com/#!/OficialHulk/st...73310455148544

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And why do you think its not right for anyone?.

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because your mob fail to accept a lot of things. i'm not sure whether thats down to being dumb or not having the ability to put down whatever the manager sets out

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Absolute hogwash especially given that you have no ideas of the inner workings of Liverpool FC and what goes on between manager and player.:nono::nono:

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think its clear to see now that Roberto will get given the managers job and Roman will buy what he wants. perfect match.

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Time to post this again? ;)

http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net...CZzb99fGcMwNM_

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Check the DVD ;) for those with poor eyesight it's Moneyball

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2012/05/4.jpg

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https://twitter.com/bbcsport_david/s...84082447790080

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BBC Sport reporter David Ornstein tweets: "Claims that Robin van Persie has agreed a new Arsenal deal are wrong. Ivan Gazidis met with his agent at Emirates on Monday. No developments, still no contract offered."

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If they get hazard, hulk...who would complain?

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Gutted about Rodgers. Vorm, Taylor, Sinclair, they'll be next to leave as I doubt we'll find a manager who will get as much out of the team as he did. And with him gone and those players out, we should be relegated by Christmas :(

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On the positive side..wait..there isn't any :(

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No no, there is one positive. We're in the Premiership and Cardiff aren't :D

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i'm not saying anyone would complain. im just raising the point of Roman wanting to buy and Roberto happy to go along with it etc.

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We've got Rodriguez from Burnley, seems a decent signing...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18246845

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Bit pricey at £7 million though.:shocked:

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amazing isn't it that fees apply according to certain sections of the league

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Easier than taking points of Liverpool... :)

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Sinclair's only got a year left as well, might put the deal for Siguardson or whom ever in doubt as well if he hasn't put pen to paper yet.

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Sigs is still due to arrive for his medical tomorrow according to the local radio station news.

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Actually I was thinking about this, Chelsea are more than likely to bump Di Matteo off soon. He's young and needs experience, as long as Huw Jenkins could promise him a decent budget then maybe he could end up at the Liberty for a few years.

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Its alright ladies and gentlemen the have a pop at Liverpool day is nearly over.:):D

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I thought this summer would be great for transfers...just didn't expect it would involve so many managers :D

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Have you applied for a managerial job yet young Colin.;)

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'Day'?? We've been doing it for years! And it's deserved too - they make it so easy :)

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Fair enough but lets increase the have a pop Man Utd days while we are at it.;):D

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running before you walk or even crawl I see den ?

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He was on the shortlist for Liverpool along with every other Tom, Dick and Jurgen that's ever kicked a football.

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That's what you do normally

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:bigcry::bigcry::bigcry:

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Its called constructive criticism or is that not allowed.:)

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Well you appear to want it banned for Liverpool

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You missed good old Sam out.:)

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Calm down dear its just good old banter.;)

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He turned you down...

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Heed your own words ;)

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:rofl::rofl:

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And 'Arry... ;)

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He was never a contender, shoo-in for the England job don't you know...

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Joke: Tom, Dick and 'Arry... ;)

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So was mine ;)

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The Brand Finance® Football 50 2012
The world's most valuable football brands
http://www.brandirectory.com/league_...ub-brands-2012


Arsenal Listed as the Sixth Most Valuable Football Brand in the World
By Matthew Snyder on May 30, 2012
http://www.bleacherreport.com/articl...d-in-the-world

Arsenal Football Club have been ranked sixth in Brand Finance's 2012 list of the most valuable football brands in the world, with a value of £250 million. This marks the fourth straight year that Arsenal have ranked in the top 10, following No. 5 rankings in 2009 and 2010 before a sixth-place finish in 2011. After seeing their brand value hover at roughly £213 million for 2009 and 2010, Arsenal saw that number drop to £194 million in 2011 before experiencing a 29-percent increase, which saw them land at 2012's £250 million tag. They are the third-highest ranked English Premier League club, and one of nine in the top 25. Manchester United reassumed the top ranking after posting a £550 million brand value in 2012—up from £427 million in 2011.

Brand Finance use a five-step process to arrive at their rankings. Here is the system, taken from their website.

1. Determine forecast revenues
Determine future revenues attributable to the brand over a five year explicit forecast period. This is done by referencing historic trends, market growth estimates, competitive forces, analyst projections and company forecasts.

2. Assess the Brand Strength
Determine the strength of the brand using the ßrandßeta® Index.

3. Establish Royalty Rate
Review comparable licensing agreements. Analyse margins and value drivers. Establish average royalty rate range for relevant sector. Apply ßrandßeta® Index to royalty rate range to determine royalty rate for the brand.

4. Determine the Discount Rate
Determine discount rate to calculate the net present value (NPV) of future brand earnings (accounting for the time value of money and the associated risk).

5. Brand Valuation Calculation
The NPV of post-tax royalties equals the brand value.

Brand Finance designate each of the organizations it ranks with a brand rating, which benchmarks the the "strength, risk and potential of a brand, relative to its competitors." The scale ranges from "AAA" (extremely strong), to "DDD-D" (failing). Arsenal have been classified as having an "AA-" brand rating. Manchester United boast an "AAA+" rating, followed closely by No. 2-ranked Bayern Munich, who are listed at "AAA."

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Arsenal need to wait until, I think, 2014 because they can leverage that into money. It's why Champions League was so important this year because this now effectively bridges the gap before the fair play regulations come in and our sponsorship deals can be redone.

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It has already begun for for poor Rodgers -

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18269858

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The best idea is to ignore former players opinions as if they are so clever then why ain't they managers but of course any Tom, Dick and Harry can call himself a pundit or expert and then think they know more then the manager it seems.

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Paul Lambert to Villa seems to be gaining some traction :(

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18275337

A shame for Norwich but was always going to happen sooner or later..

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Ian Holloway seems to be the odds-on favourite to replace Rodgers at the moment...not sure if such a loose-cannon is what we need right now.