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Arthurgray50@blu 26-05-2012 22:48

The Eurovision rant thread
 
We pay a very large amount of money on the licence fee, yet year in and year they waste money on the Eurovision song contest.

Its the most political motivated show on TV, yet the BBC put this on each year, some years they even offer to cover it for a country that cannot afford it, and still don't get any votes.

Watching the show at the moment and the Hump has only ONE VOTE, yet Sweden is winning by 140 votes.

I would suggest the BBC give it up.

carlwaring 26-05-2012 22:49

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"I don't like it so it shouldn't be shown" is not a valid argument against the BBC; unless you want to come across as really, really selfish.

Chris 26-05-2012 22:58

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Thread title changed seeing as you seem to want to address Eurovision rather than the BBC in general. ;)

Personally, while I find the regional bloc voting irritating, it's obviously not enough of a problem to derail the results. Sweden was the favourite going into the competition and while I like the UK entry in itself, I just don't think it stood out against a very strong field this year, especially not being first on, which is always a difficult job.

TheDaddy 26-05-2012 23:06

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35433372)
Thread title changed seeing as you seem to want to address Eurovision rather than the BBC in general. ;)

Personally, while I find the regional bloc voting irritating, it's obviously not enough of a problem to derail the results. Sweden was the favourite going into the competition and while I like the UK entry in itself, I just don't think it stood out against a very strong field this year, especially not being first on, which is always a difficult job.

Plus of course the UK is one of the most successful nations ever at eurovision

Chris 26-05-2012 23:09

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True, though our success was back in the days when it was essentially a western European competition. The dynamic has changed a lot - though iirc we managed a creditable 5th the year Lloyd-Webber wrote it for us.

Hom3r 26-05-2012 23:10

Re: The Eurovision rant thread
 
If i understand the current hosts are closer to the middle east than europe.

I 100% say its about time we pulled out of this shower of s

Why we have to go through being a laughing stock is beyond me, i want my license fee i pay towards this garbage refunded.

Damien 26-05-2012 23:12

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Eurovision just seems so dated now. Does it still attract wide ratings? As for our poor record it's probably because we try creating something designed to win whereas everyone else seems to embrace the fun/silliness of it. Maybe because we're actually quite good at producing international acts we don't have the niche appeal or something radically different.

Peter_ 26-05-2012 23:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35433366)
We pay a very large amount of money on the licence fee, yet year in and year they waste money on the Eurovision song contest.

Its the most political motivated show on TV, yet the BBC put this on each year, some years they even offer to cover it for a country that cannot afford it, and still don't get any votes.

Watching the show at the moment and the Hump has only ONE VOTE, yet Sweden is winning by 140 votes.

I would suggest the BBC give it up.

We came 2nd from bottom because that is how good we were and that is to be expected with our entrant unlike Sweden who deserved to win and eventually walked it.

But by far the best part was Graham Norton's acid comments.

Gavin78 26-05-2012 23:30

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Lets face it though poor hump his song was awfull....I think to get in with Europe we need something like Bucks fizz because most of the Euro songs all still seem a bit back dated I think something Euro sounding might just do it or at least get us in the top 10 lol

Chris 26-05-2012 23:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35433384)
If i understand the current hosts are closer to the middle east than europe.

I 100% say its about time we pulled out of this shower of s

Why we have to go through being a laughing stock is beyond me, i want my license fee i pay towards this garbage refunded.

It's the Eurovision song contest, not the European song contest. The thing is run by the European Broadcasting Union, which is centred on, but not limited to the continent of Europe.

danielf 26-05-2012 23:59

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Do people actually watch this dross? I thought it was mostly aimed at bored housewives and children that need nationalism drilled into them?

jempalmer 27-05-2012 00:04

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Could someone, any of the nay or yay sayers, get a grip. It was rubbish from the outset.

AdamD 27-05-2012 00:32

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I never watch it, especially if they use .."people" like "Jedward" to represent a country, I mean wow, standards must be low, haha

TheDaddy 27-05-2012 02:14

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Originally Posted by AdamD (Post 35433402)
I never watch it, especially if they use .."people" like "Jedward" to represent a country, I mean wow, standards must be low, haha

More like Ireland ensuring they don't win, when they went through that phase of winning every year it nearly bankrupted the country. Spain's entrant actually said she'd been asked to put in a poor performance as the country couldn't afford the cost of a victory.

Maggy 27-05-2012 10:11

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The only truly successful song to come out of the whole 40 years plus of the contest was Waterloo by Abba.It's still played somewhere in the world every day to this day.Who the hell really remembers the rest?;)

Hom3r 27-05-2012 10:50

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Originally Posted by danielf (Post 35433394)
Do people actually watch this dross? I thought it was mostly aimed at bored housewives and children that need nationalism drilled into them?


I went to the cinema like any sane person would, rather watch that pile of poo.:D

gba93 27-05-2012 10:53

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Quote from BBC:
There were high hopes for Humperdinck - affectionately known as "The Hump" - given his huge global fanbase, but his draw as first to sing in the contest seemingly proved detrimental.

In reality going first had nothing to do with it - what was critical was that "The Hump" is way past his best (given that Eurovision has been the graveyard of many a career was he the only one we could get to agree to do it?), there was no gimmick factor (like the Russian Grannies) and the song was from another era (though I'm not quite sure which). Those factors along with the buddy voting that goes on and the expansion of the competition to countries who have no love for ex-empirical nations (having just gained there independence from one) meant that the surprise was not that we did not do well but that we managed to avoid both getting "null points" and being last.
So I suppose we got a result after all - roll on next year. :rolleyes:

Gary L 27-05-2012 11:05

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The rest of the world hates us. and who can blame them.

Ken W 27-05-2012 11:53

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Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35433466)
I went to the cinema like any sane person would, rather watch that pile of poo.:D

I watch a prog that I had recored on my TIVO. :D

rogerdraig 27-05-2012 12:05

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i like it :P

I think it might be a good format for elections to party leaders singing regional juries or telephone votes (depending on how intelligent the area is and if they can be trusted to vote the right way )

and then all the fun of watching the points board

cant think of anything better :)

and yay sweeden maybe we have a new abba ;)

colin25 27-05-2012 12:40

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I watched bits...in between flicking through channels

So not a real fan..and wouldn't miss it if it wasn't here...but you can say that about almost all of BBC programmes

Ditch the license fee...make them sink or swim for commercial income...let life go on

AdamD 27-05-2012 12:41

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I watch streaming news from an American tv news network, because of that, I have to pay the TV license fee, which pays for trash like this

Interesting.

Hugh 27-05-2012 13:01

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AdamD, so you don't watch, listen to, or browse any BBC programmes, radio, or websites?

Gary L 27-05-2012 13:10

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35433490)
AdamD, so you don't watch, listen to, or browse any BBC programmes, radio, or websites?

My mate reckons you have to buy a TV licence if you're listening to someone elses radio, or if you visit any BBC websites.

mad.

Chris 27-05-2012 13:50

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This is not a TV licence thread. There are plenty of those already. If you want to discuss that, go and bump one of them, or start a new one.

Mick Fisher 27-05-2012 13:52

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It's rubbish, it's always been rubbish and it always will be rubbish.

Thank the Lord for other channels and PVR's.

yesman 27-05-2012 14:14

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35433454)
Who the hell really remembers the rest?;)

Sadly I remember Cliff with Congratulations :erm:
It came second after a political vote from Germany after leading all the way through

Maggy 27-05-2012 14:45

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Originally Posted by yesman (Post 35433512)
Sadly I remember Cliff with Congratulations :erm:
It came second after a political vote from Germany after leading all the way through

I also remember Puppet on a String sung by Sandy Shaw which incidentally was a winner..However it has to be said that few people remember either song quite as much as Waterloo..a Swedish entry.:)

colin25 27-05-2012 14:50

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Waterloo...so simple...bound to be flushed with success...waterlessloo..now..that would be risky

devilincarnate 27-05-2012 17:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35433454)
The only truly successful song to come out of the whole 40 years plus of the contest was Waterloo by Abba.It's still played somewhere in the world every day to this day.Who the hell really remembers the rest?;)

What about this one?

Quote:

Eurovision Song Contest victory

On 20 May 2006, Lordi made history by winning the Eurovision Song Contest held in Helsinki with the song "Hard Rock Hallelujah", becoming the first Finnish group to win the contest. The song scored 292 points, which was an all-time points record until Alexander Rybak broke it in the 2009 contest with 387 points. Only three countries - Armenia, Albania and Monaco - did not give a single point to Finland. Eight countries gave Finland a full 12 points. Lordi was also a semi-final number one and even got 292 points, which was historic, as they were the first competitors to win both the semifinals and the finals. Pasi Rantanen from the band Thunderstone performed backing vocals for the performance, wearing a Gene Simmons Kiss mask.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lordi#E...ontest_victory

Peter_ 27-05-2012 17:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35433525)
Waterloo...so simple...bound to be flushed with success...waterlessloo..now..that would be risky

Plenty available nowadays

http://www.google.co.uk/products/cat...ed=0CG4Q8wIwAA

Ken W 27-05-2012 18:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_ (Post 35433570)

Nice one :D :D

Tuftus 27-05-2012 21:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35433454)
The only truly successful song to come out of the whole 40 years plus of the contest was Waterloo by Abba.It's still played somewhere in the world every day to this day.Who the hell really remembers the rest?;)

Ooh I don't know about that, that German lass that won it a year or so back was pretty memorable ;)

Ravenheart 27-05-2012 22:18

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35433569)


Lordi were the best thing in Eurovision in years! :)


I know we have time differences with Europe, but some of the songs last night were like club anthems from the 90's

Maggy 27-05-2012 22:22

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Originally Posted by Tuftus (Post 35433679)
Ooh I don't know about that, that German lass that won it a year or so back was pretty memorable ;)

The song,the song.It's not Miss Euro it's the Eurovision SONG contest.:p:

And without googling tell me the lyrics..:p:

---------- Post added at 22:22 ---------- Previous post was at 22:19 ----------

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35433569)

Can you hum it?Remember any of the lyrics without Googling it.It's not the group,singer it's the song.:erm:

Personally I think the only way to judge the SONGS is for the same performers to sing them all.:)


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