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southlad 17-05-2012 11:15

What would it take for you to move to Sky?
 
Hey everyone :)

just wondered your thoughts on this...

The main two reasons I love my VM services is the three tivo tuners and the really fast fibre broadband.

Sky are getting fibre broadband soon, so if they launched a new tv box as good as tivo I might be convinced to switch (depending on price too).

What would it take for you to switch to sky?

(also do you think sky will launch a new tv box?)

gadge 17-05-2012 11:26

Re: What would it take for you to move to Sky?
 
We did have all three services from virgin, but nearly 12 months ago had problems with the broadband which seemed to drag on and on so went with sky for phone and broadband which we are happy with can stream netflix on 3 devices at the same time quite comfortable and thats on a 11 meg connection,tv side love our tivos too much more hd channels im sure will come soon enough soon history hd is the channel i want the most but with having the usa version of netflix there is loads of content from the history channel in hd.

SnoopZ 17-05-2012 11:29

Re: What would it take for you to move to Sky?
 
I thought about moving my XL TV to Sky but it is far far more expensive so they would have to reduce their prices and currently my only viable fast internet option is cable broadband as i can only receive a max on 8Mb on a BT line.

toady 17-05-2012 11:36

Re: What would it take for you to move to Sky?
 
I'd need the local planning laws relaxed to allow me to have a dish mounted and the large trees outside removed, and a broadband connection that could match Virgins upcoming 120 meg service.

Can't see any of these requirments being met any time soon

denphone 17-05-2012 11:42

Re: What would it take for you to move to Sky?
 
The only advantage Sky has is it has a few more channels but other then that Virgin's all round package is better and that suits our family best.

jempalmer 17-05-2012 11:52

Re: What would it take for you to move to Sky?
 
I agree with you den. The extra channels that Sky offer don't warrant a switch for us either. It's really only the F1 channel for us that's a pain. We had an issue with Sky which prompted us to change to VM anyway.

Itshim 17-05-2012 11:52

Re: What would it take for you to move to Sky?
 
I guess I am price driven. So that would be the main factor. BB infinity is here. My son says that even that is not as fast as mine ( 10 meg !!!). So that would need to improve.
Also have problem with land line ( If that is a requirement) . When Cable Tel ( that goes back some time) put in my TV & phone line. I quite clearly remember the engineer cutting the BT line & removing the socket with the words you won`t need that anymore, one less wire running in the house! Sky sales staff sort that lot out & I for one am open to offers !

Kymmy 17-05-2012 11:54

Re: What would it take for you to move to Sky?
 
Moved to Other Digital TV discussion

pabscars 17-05-2012 12:05

Re: What would it take for you to move to Sky?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gadge (Post 35429191)
We did have all three services from virgin, but nearly 12 months ago had problems with the broadband which seemed to drag on and on so went with sky for phone and broadband which we are happy with can stream netflix on 3 devices at the same time quite comfortable and thats on a 11 meg connection,tv side love our tivos too much more hd channels im sure will come soon enough soon history hd is the channel i want the most but with having the usa version of netflix there is loads of content from the history channel in hd.

Same here, I moved all 3 services over to Sky because of a broadband issue, I did miss the V+ box at first because me and the wife used catch up a lot, but now we have series link on the Sky+ box that's solved it.

I've just signed up to Sky's fibre broadband service which should go live on the 28th of this month (fingers crossed).

In the past twelve months with Sky, Ive had at least 1 issue with all services, the broadband at first which was quickly traced to a line fault and fixed by BT, the phone developed a noise (like a fax machine) which resulted in it being fixed within 24 hours by BT.

The TV also developed a fault where the channels were breaking up and some recordings were failing. A Sky engineer came out within a few days and replaced everything including the dish. Overall the picture quality on Sky standard definition is leaps and bounds better that Virgins (IMO), in fact it's that good I don't bother paying the £10 a month for HD, I don't see the point.

This might not paint a particularly great picture but what I will say is, I've never once spoke to overseas support (which is always a bonus) and all issues have been resolved pretty quickly, couple to that the follow up support after reporting any fault is great and makes you feel like your being looked after which is novel these days.

Sky give the impression of a well organised company, something which I find sadly lacking with VM, who quite frankly seem to let the tail wag the dog if you catch my drift.

Just my opinion for what it's worth.

I forgot to mention the 2 tuners thing (multiple recordings clashing) on Sky can be a right royal pain the buttox, so another thumbs up for the V+ in that respect.

muppetman11 17-05-2012 12:33

Re: What would it take for you to move to Sky?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35429199)
The only advantage Sky has is it has a few more channels but other then that Virgin's all round package is better

For you maybe ! My package with Sky is cheaper and offers me the following VM can't

Multitude of mobile apps
All 6 Sky Sports channels in HD
3D movies and Sport included
Free Wifi at thousands of locations
Many more HD channels
Live TV and OD on a tablet/smartphone
Free evening and weekend call inclusive with line rental

Each individual will have different requirements so it's impossible to state one service is better than another.

Itshim 17-05-2012 12:38

Re: What would it take for you to move to Sky?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35429223)
For you maybe ! My package with Sky is cheaper and offers me the following VM can't
I understand what you say however in MY case , none of these reasons are a draw!

Multitude of mobile apps don`t want or care
All 6 Sky Sports channels in HD don`t want or care
3D movies and Sport included don`t want or care
Free Wifi at thousands of locations that would good
Many more HD channels don`t care
Live TV and OD on a tablet/smartphone don`t want or care
Free evening and weekend call inclusive with line rental neutral feeling on that

Each individual will have different requirements so it's impossible to state one service is better than another.

Quite agree

SnoopZ 17-05-2012 12:40

Re: What would it take for you to move to Sky?
 
If Sky ever drop the HD monthly cost it becomes for viable for me unless Virgin charge me more for dropping XL.

denphone 17-05-2012 12:49

Re: What would it take for you to move to Sky?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35429223)
For you maybe ! My package with Sky is cheaper and offers me the following VM can't l am afraid.

Multitude of mobile apps
All 6 Sky Sports channels in HD
3D movies and Sport included
Free Wifi at thousands of locations
Many more HD channels
Live TV and OD on a tablet/smartphone
Free evening and weekend call inclusive with line rental

Each individual will have different requirements so it's impossible to state one service is better than another.

Always nice to hear the masters voice this morning and my package with VM offers me things that good old sky can't offer.:p::)

The best STB by a country mile
Huge OD libriary
Functionality
Operability and reliability
Recording capacity
Number of tuners
Supplemental content
Faster broadband
No ESPN fee
HD at no extra cost
Cheaper multiroom subscription
No repair fees
More enhanced GUI
Multiroom streaming sometime soon

muppetman11 17-05-2012 12:55

Re: What would it take for you to move to Sky?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 35429226)
Quite agree

Thankyou , you've clearly illustrated my point , one persons requirements can be clearly different from another's. Some on here require 100mb BB something I can't envisage needing for some time , others see TIVO as essential again something I clearly also see no immediate need for.

Pog66 17-05-2012 13:08

Re: What would it take for you to move to Sky?
 
...my impending move to a house with no cable services :(

martyh 17-05-2012 13:20

Re: What would it take for you to move to Sky?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pog66 (Post 35429240)
...my impending move to a house with no cable services :(

same here ,i did that last year and was dreading losing my 100mg ,v+ multiroom ,but after a bit of time and getting Anytime + through BT home hub the only thing we miss is the 2 tuner v+ .If sky wanted to steal more tv customers then getting a new STB with multiple tuners would be a distinct step in the right direction .For a company that concentrates it's market on TV provision i am surprised they haven't upgraded the STB already because even with the reported poor performance of tivo it is still a far better stb in that respect than sky's

gcampbell 17-05-2012 13:34

Re: What would it take for you to move to Sky?
 
Moved to Sky in January for the programming on Sky Atlantic (Game of Thrones, Boardwalk, Borgias) and other than the tuner issue popping up now and again when some things clash I have not regretted it one bit.

I too, like the guy earlier, am content with Sky in SD as the picture quality of SD is far better than with VM.

Itshim 17-05-2012 13:56

Re: What would it take for you to move to Sky?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35429231)
Always nice to hear the masters voice this morning and my package with VM offers me things that good old sky can't offer.:p::)

The best STB by a country mile questionable , sorry do you mean V+ !!!:rolleyes:
Huge OD libriary When we look ( not very often its painful)
Functionality really
Operability and reliability questionable
Recording capacity TRUE
Number of tuners TRUE
Supplemental content That can go. Then moving around box would be simpler
Faster broadband VERY true
No ESPN fee Do not care
HD at no extra cost Do not care
Cheaper multiroom subscription Do not see point (Two boxes have it covered )
No repair fees Great Plus
More enhanced GUI Sorry whats that !:p:
Multiroom streaming sometime soon

coming soon :rolleyes: really again don`t care

denphone 17-05-2012 14:13

Re: What would it take for you to move to Sky?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 35429260)
coming soon :rolleyes: really again don`t care

Well l suppose some customers are hard to please.:)

Itshim 17-05-2012 14:22

Re: What would it take for you to move to Sky?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35429265)
Well l suppose some customers are hard to please.:)


In fact I would be very easy to please.

Lots of the rubbish on TiVo I just avoid ( I question why o why anyone wants the like of hangman but there you go) Still not a real problem.

To make me happy
ignoring cutting the cost :D

"real" red button & reminders. Is that really to much to ask for.:shocked:

denphone 17-05-2012 14:37

Re: What would it take for you to move to Sky?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 35429271)
In fact I would be very easy to please.

Lots of the rubbish on TiVo I just avoid ( I question why o why anyone wants the like of hangman but there you go) Still not a real problem.

To make me happy
ignoring cutting the cost :D

"real" red button & reminders. Is that really to much to ask for.:shocked:

And reminders and more red button interactivety are both coming.

martyh 17-05-2012 15:15

Re: What would it take for you to move to Sky?
 
I love these threads ,it takes about 3 posts to descend into a "mine is better than yours" playground squabble :D

My tv is turned off at the moment ,i could trawl through hours of on demand content on Anytime + but the truth be known i just can't be bothered because it's just not that important .Having been on both providers in the last year my assessment is ...MEH... as long as the other half gets her programs and keeps off my back i don't give a hoot who puts corrie street in the black box in the corner

Hugh 17-05-2012 15:49

Re: What would it take for you to move to Sky?
 
As the poster above has rightly stated, this has descended (with a few exceptions) into a "mine is better than yours" whinge-fest - can we try to keep on topic, and state what would get you to move to Sky, please?

Itshim 17-05-2012 16:04

Re: What would it take for you to move to Sky?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35429281)
And reminders and more red button interactivety are both coming.


Sorry but just have to add the word "soon " to this .

In answer to the question ( again) I would say
Faster BB , no land line requirement, lower price ( to including repairs) Would attract me

v0id 17-05-2012 16:14

Re: What would it take for you to move to Sky?
 
Sky World and multi-room and Sky Fibre with at least 40Mbps down and 10Mbps up for under £30 p/m all in with free installation

They offer me that, and I'm sold :D

jempalmer 17-05-2012 16:46

Re: What would it take for you to move to Sky?
 
An apology from Sky given the atrocious CS we experienced. We had Sky TV but internet and phone with TalkTalk. After 16 months of Sky, and no real problems at that point, we started getting green TV, (not the environmentally friendly version). Called CS first, followed by Tech to be told that i have a defective HDMI cable. Really not impressed. Upshot was £65 for an engineer callout and £199 for a replacement Sky+ HD box.

Itshim 17-05-2012 17:19

Re: What would it take for you to move to Sky?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jempalmer (Post 35429345)
An apology from Sky given the atrocious CS we experienced. We had Sky TV but internet and phone with TalkTalk. After 16 months of Sky, and no real problems at that point, we started getting green TV, (not the environmentally friendly version). Called CS first, followed by Tech to be told that i have a defective HDMI cable. Really not impressed. Upshot was £65 for an engineer callout and £199 for a replacement Sky+ HD box.

This has got to be a major selling( sorry renting is a better word as we NEVER buy a TiVo box) point for Virgin. Mind you it did not help Radio Rentals in the long run :p:

jempalmer 17-05-2012 17:30

Re: What would it take for you to move to Sky?
 
Sky shot themselves in the foot with regards to us. I doubt that it made a huge dent in their balance sheet. I just thought it was very unsympathetic and condescending.

Itshim 17-05-2012 17:36

Re: What would it take for you to move to Sky?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jempalmer (Post 35429380)
Sky - I just thought it was very unsympathetic and condescending.

We are talking about a business are we not. Never come across one that is, in the round , sympathetic or caring ( except about the bottom line:dozey:)

jempalmer 17-05-2012 18:04

Re: What would it take for you to move to Sky?
 
Oh well, onwards and upwards,at least as far as we're concerned. VM are by no means perfect, however they are sympathetic.

denphone 17-05-2012 18:06

Re: What would it take for you to move to Sky?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jempalmer (Post 35429401)
Oh well, onwards and upwards,at least as far as we're concerned. VM are by no means perfect, however they are sympathetic.

l will second that.

devilincarnate 17-05-2012 19:26

Re: What would it take for you to move to Sky?
 
Well for me to move back to Sky is a body bag? From Virgin, to the earth and then SKY?

I am going the other way to shovel coal?

I will get my coat

LexDiamond 17-05-2012 19:49

Re: What would it take for you to move to Sky?
 
I wanted to initially go back to VM but they were not willing to offer me the discount on XLtv that everyone else gets for having BB. So I just went to Sky. Now I doubt I would ever go back to VM for any of their services.

nstokes 17-05-2012 20:41

Re: What would it take for you to move to Sky?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35429223)
For you maybe ! My package with Sky is cheaper and offers me the following VM can't

Multitude of mobile apps - Agree
All 6 Sky Sports channels in HD - Agree
3D movies and Sport included - Agree, although not fussed
Free Wifi at thousands of locations - Agree
Many more HD channels - Agree
Live TV and OD on a tablet/smartphone - Agree
Free evening and weekend call inclusive with line rental - Agree

Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35429231)
Always nice to hear the masters voice this morning and my package with VM offers me things that good old sky can't offer.:p::)

The best STB by a country mile - Opinion
Huge OD libriary - Not that fussed as AT+ is good enough
Functionality - Sky+ has this as well
Operability and reliability - Sky+ has this as well
Recording capacity - Sky+ can hold more hours
Number of tuners- 1 thing that CM has over Sky
Supplemental content - Examples
Faster broadband - I agree
No ESPN fee - I agree
HD at no extra cost - I agree but Sky use this money for investments in HD
Cheaper multiroom subscription
No repair fees - First 12 months are free
More enhanced GUI - Examples
Multiroom streaming sometime soon - Coming to Sky this year as well

I do not regret going from VM to Sky. I am also looking forward to being able to download recordings from my Sky+ box to phone and tablet to watch on the move.

DaMac 17-05-2012 21:24

Re: What would it take for you to move to Sky?
 
Fast Fibre optic BT broadband in my area and i'd be orf m8.

Hom3r 20-05-2012 15:11

Re: What would it take for you to move to Sky?
 
I have been on cable since the days of Cambridge cable.

In all those years the only problem we've had was on our bill was some adult film/channels, which we couldn't have ordered as we were on holiday and the house was empty.

A couple of calls and they were removed from our bill.

Maggy 20-05-2012 15:17

Re: What would it take for you to move to Sky?
 
Murdoch having no further connection to Sky and Bskyb.

jempalmer 20-05-2012 16:08

Re: What would it take for you to move to Sky?
 
Maybe if they paid me. Our last experience with Sky was not a happy one :(

muppetman11 20-05-2012 16:11

Re: What would it take for you to move to Sky?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jempalmer (Post 35430779)
Maybe if they paid me. Our last experience with Sky was not a happy one :(

You will always find customers who have good/bad experiences with most firms , my experience of VM customer services was pretty good on the whole however their network in my area was not :(

jempalmer 20-05-2012 16:20

Re: What would it take for you to move to Sky?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35430781)
You will always find customers who have good/bad experiences with most firms , my experience of VM customer services was pretty good on the whole however their network in my area was not :(

No argument from me MM. I'm reasonably pleased with my Tivo, it does pretty much what I want. My problem was when Sky wanted to charge £264 to replace an HD box that was 16 months old. They wouldn't budge so we switched to VM.

Ignitionnet 25-05-2012 00:11

Re: What would it take for you to move to Sky?
 
Being able to install a dish.

---------- Post added at 23:11 ---------- Previous post was at 23:09 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35430763)
Murdoch having no further connection to Sky and Bskyb.

Christ on a bike, one day you'll get the chip off your shoulder about Murdoch and Sky you cantankerous old fart. You start threads in the current affairs section, have digs at Murdoch / Sky wherever else, seriously get a grip.

I fully await the completely unbiased moderation for pointing out the chip on said poster, who purely coincidentally happens to be a moderator's ridiculously coloured opinions on a company she's no relationship to as she's nothing better to do than hold a pointless grudge.

Goes in the same class of plausibility as moderation by a guy who thinks the earth is 6,000 years old.

passingbat 25-05-2012 09:16

Re: What would it take for you to move to Sky?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35432567)
Being able to install a dish.

---------- Post added at 23:11 ---------- Previous post was at 23:09 ----------



Christ on a bike, one day you'll get the chip off your shoulder about Murdoch and Sky you cantankerous old fart. You start threads in the current affairs section, have digs at Murdoch / Sky wherever else, seriously get a grip.

I fully await the completely unbiased moderation for pointing out the chip on said poster, who purely coincidentally happens to be a moderator's ridiculously coloured opinions on a company she's no relationship to as she's nothing better to do than hold a pointless grudge.

Goes in the same class of plausibility as moderation by a guy who thinks the earth is 6,000 years old.

Unless it is in bold, posts by moderators are opinions on the topic. Moderators obviously have opinions.

So your post makes no sense to me.

Mick Fisher 25-05-2012 13:20

Re: What would it take for you to move to Sky?
 
Hmmm...What would it take for me to move to Sky?

Well I already did for the TV so for the BB shall we say the availability of Sky 80/20 COMPLETELY UNLIMITED FTTC in my area.

With all VirginMedia's limitations, unreliability, congestion and the dreadful Indian support center, it really is a no brainer.

Maggy 25-05-2012 13:38

Re: What would it take for you to move to Sky?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35432567)
Being able to install a dish.

---------- Post added at 23:11 ---------- Previous post was at 23:09 ----------



Christ on a bike, one day you'll get the chip off your shoulder about Murdoch and Sky you cantankerous old fart. You start threads in the current affairs section, have digs at Murdoch / Sky wherever else, seriously get a grip.

I fully await the completely unbiased moderation for pointing out the chip on said poster, who purely coincidentally happens to be a moderator's ridiculously coloured opinions on a company she's no relationship to as she's nothing better to do than hold a pointless grudge.

Goes in the same class of plausibility as moderation by a guy who thinks the earth is 6,000 years old.

I cannot recall anywhere in the T&Cs a rule that moderators must be unbiased or that we are not allowed an opinion.

link
Specifically
Quote:

Team members are entitled to post on the board in their own personal capacity to participate in discussions and offer their own views

InformationMedia 21-06-2012 23:55

Re: What would it take for you to move to Sky?
 
Free HD for a year and more Channels

karma mechanic 19-07-2012 16:52

Re: What would it take for you to move to Sky?
 
Dolby Digital 5.1 over HDMI. Like other devices do.

The output of my Tivo, BD player and PC go via an HDMI switch to an AV amp. As far as I know the SKY boxes only support stereo and need a separate optical connector for the 5.1 sound. That would be messy...


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