Euro 2012
 

England squad named

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As per the other thread. Downling is a bizarre choice and Carroll ahead of Sturridge and Crouch is also odd.

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Yes l am a bit surprised Sturridge was not picked but maybe he sees Carroll as a secret weapon to come on as sub with 20 minutes to go.

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In my opinion it should be Richards, Carrick, Adam Johnson and Sturridge in. Milner, Downing, Barry and Carroll out. Jordan Henderson should be nowhere near the standby list as well.

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This site has a excel spreadsheet that you can input the scores as they happen and even the next rounds as the teams progress

http://www.excely.com/

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Ha Ha if only........

http://youtu.be/t7UmvGSzCTE

ITV's attempt to drum up some Euro frenzy

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Ruddy out, Butland in

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Whats it coming to.:(:td:

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he's not bad, Arsenal have been watching him for a while. its good to also see the youth being nurtured

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Bendtner scored vs Brazil in their friendly. Brazil won 3-1. hope Bendtner carries on scoring.. we could do with more interest in him.

Germany 5-3 down vs the Swiss ;)

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Any predictions for tonight's game?

England to lose 1-0? :D

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Heyyyyyyy..I am watching this now :(

:D

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so am i lol do you want to know which minute Bendtner scores lol

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nope..watching england now..come on Norway :D

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Bendtner was offside lol who cares so long as he keeps scoring we can offload.

apperently Djourou said he'll leave Arsenal this summer.. YES!!!

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l wonder if after the match we hear those famous words.:)

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Delias watching Den.

Nice touch by team England with the roses. R.I.P

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Someone on the bbc website suggested they would be better off with churchill and diana instead of carroll and downing :D

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A better combination would be the Colin and thenry show.;):D

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1-0 :(

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hey im not anti England. Nice goal by Young

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Bad defence

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Yes.:cleader::cleader:

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Trust the Scottish to come out in you again.:D;)

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I am more sure the norwegian's have contributed to my ancestary,..then the english...mind you..both were invaders :D

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bloody HD delay!

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I am watching in HD..what delay?

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via Sky?

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English not playing badly here you know.

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Yes

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wales beat Norway 4-1...don't get too excited

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try freeview standard :(

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It seems we have Colin the pessimist tonight methinks.:D

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hes just mad i dug him out with the little kitty pic :D

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i will never get excited over england...unless they are getting beat :D

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Theos on. Oxo Cube should be on shortly :D

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Are you a distant cousin of Robert the Bruce.:D;)

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No..but dear boy..I support scotland..my country.

If there was a team UK..or Gb..i might support it. I do for athletics.

Or team Europe..I do for ryder cup.

But football?..I support Scotland (even when they are dire..and that seems always), then all bets off on who I support after that.

I like dutch...sometimes spain...but to be honest..I am amused at the "England will win easy brigade" so can't help but support other countries that play england :D

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Oh..i am half American..1/4 polish...so sometimes switch allegiance...but that's allowed

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take that back about usa...they can be a bit arrogant too..though I get amused that they seem to want to pick up the ball and throw it...or used too :D

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Its seems we are reverting back to the old England way of giving the ball away too cheaply again.:(

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Friendly game..means nothing...whether england win 5-0...or 1-0..or even lose

My rule..happy to lose the nothing games..as long as I win the something games

So roll on Euros...that is when it gets interesting :D

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Portugal - Macedonia: 0-0
Netherlands - Bulgaria: 1-2
Switzerland - Germany: 5-3

(Spain - Serbia: 2-0)

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I was quite impressed with Andy Carroll's all round contribution tonight.
I think Hodgson will have a problem of who to pick between Carroll and Wellbeck (if fit).
Whatever happens, improvement of the all round team performance is a must, I know it was only a friendly.

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Friendlies are meaningless in terms of judging the team as a whole or how they will do in Poland. Too many changes, manager trying different things, the other side also experimenting.

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Uk was a joke again as usual... what a shame. they never learn!

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England had a great oppotunity to breed new blood for the Euro's and this is what is needed, they said that they are missing Rooney.

England does not run on one player, Hodgson has to kick sum butt if we are to be a force in the Euro's, on tonights performance we were poor.

It may be a friendly, but we are going to meet better quality teams in the Euro's and l cannot see us doing well - same old England, new manager same old crap.

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Our previous game was better under Stewart. I'm not starting the Roy thing, I personally support him but like before I want to see good footy.

England.

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Maybe he was talking about Eurovision?


:)

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I don't see how we can learn. The same players won't massively improve. Expectations out of line with the actual quality of our players.

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oh dear :LOL: Zee you need a slap :bsmack:

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all i now is they are a joke almost every year and they deserve 0 points until they get their act together...

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So you are talking about Eurovision? Wrong thread.

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Tonight's match was just a friendly, so no points required...

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I was joking at first, but maybe i was right lol!

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:bsmack:

Zee this threads about the UEFA European Football Championship aka Euro 2012. Its also in the sports section.

Another :bsmack: for putting the thought of Jedward in my head lol

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Oh dear USA 5 Scotland 1

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...onovan-Co.html

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:mad:

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Thats the typical arrogant French for you but that shows me that Mr Domenech is scared deep down of England..:td::(

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lol..methinks Zee posted in wrong thread...but gave me a laugh :D

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What happened to your beloved Scotland Colin.:D:p::D

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They played exactly as expected. You can not say anything more than I say already. The team is poor, the league is poorer....:D

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I can see the game plan that was set out last night, get the early goal and then defend and keep the lead which is something England can never do is keep the lead after scoring so early.

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Well at least you don't come out with any excuses so that that media training you had was very useful after all.;):D

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Funny enough..I have had media training for my job.

But...I am a Scot...most of us know that our team is crap (oh crap, can I say crap here?)

Don't judge scots by the lager louts...they tend to breed with each other...eventually they will dissipate from the inbreeding..or being too drunk to be able to get it up (can I say"get it up" here :D)

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l think the image that is portrayed of the Scots is nothing like they are in reality as l know quite a few Scottish people and they come across as kind, caring and intelligent people.:)

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States vs Scotland repeat on ESPN now followed by Frances game vs Iceland

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l suspect good old Colin will be turning the TV off then.:D

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I watched it already..taped it...nothing unexpected in the game :)

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Gourcuff starts, one to watch he may well be an Arsenal player soon so long as he doesnt inflate his fee!! Nasris alongside him. Cabeya in so too Ben Afra for Remy.

Mandanda
Debuchy, Rami, Mexes(c), Evra
Cabaye
Gourcuff, Nasri
Ben Arfa, Benzema, Menez

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l am not sure Gourcuff wants to go to Arsenal.

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he's on 100k at the moment but hasnt settled at Lyon. he needs a manager like Wenger, real qaulity player when in form.

Iceland are 2 up, counter attacking for both really and both times Evra caught out.

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France can't defend to save their lives.:)

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Evras crap ;) France have been poor. They failed to make the right pass

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Gareth Barry is out of the Euros squad because of injury. Phil Jagielka has been called up. I don't think its too much of a problem, i have never rated Barry. At least Jordan Henderson wasn't called up...

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Yes l have to agree with your sentiment totally Shadow.

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England Euro squad plus numbers:

Goalkeepers: 1. Joe Hart (Manchester City), 13. Robert Green (West Ham), 23. Jack Butland (Birmingham City).

Defenders: 12. Leighton Baines (Everton), 5. Gary Cahill (Chelsea), 3. Ashley Cole (Chelsea), 2. Glen Johnson (Liverpool), 14. Phil Jones (Manchester United), 15. Joleon Lescott (Manchester City), 6. John Terry (Chelsea), 18. Phil Jagielka (Everton).

Midfielders: 19. Stewart Downing (Liverpool), 4. Steven Gerrard (Liverpool), 8. Frank Lampard (Chelsea), 16. James Milner (Manchester City), 20. Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (Arsenal), 17. Scott Parker (Tottenham), 7. Theo Walcott (Arsenal), 11. Ashley Young (Manchester United).

Forwards: 9. Andy Carroll (Liverpool), 21. Jermain Defoe (Tottenham), 10. Wayne Rooney (Manchester United), 22. Danny Welbeck (Manchester United).

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France 23-man squad:

Goalkeepers: Hugo Lloris (Olympique Lyon), Steve Mandanda (Olympique Marseille), Cedric Carrasso (Girondins Bordeaux)

Defenders: Gael Clichy (Manchester City), Patrice Evra (Manchester United), Laurent Koscielny (Arsenal), Philippe Mexes (AC Milan), Adil Rami (Valencia), Mathieu Debuchy (Lille), Anthony Reveillere (Olympique Lyon).

Midfielders: Yohan Cabaye (Newcastle United), Florent Malouda (Chelsea), Samir Nasri (Manchester City), Alou Diarra (Olympique Marseille), Yann M'vila (Stade Rennes), Marvin Martin (Sochaux), Blaise Matuidi (Paris St Germain).

Forwards: Hatem Ben Arfa (Newcastle United), Karim Benzema (Real Madrid), Franck Ribery (Bayern Munich), Olivier Giroud (Montpellier), Jeremy Menez (Paris St Germain), Mathieu Valbuena (Olympique Marseille).

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Nothing to frighten Spain or Germany looking at those squads l am afraid.

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The French squad is pretty good. Not at the same level of the German and Spanish teams but still, there is quality there, and they might be a good outside bet.

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Has anyone put any pre-tournament bets on?

I've gone for a Germany/France final @ 28/1

Germany to win/Muller top scorer @ 66/1

Benzema top scorer @ 20/1

And a couple of big outside bets as well.

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wow good point. ive still got my ukash voucher i can use via betting sites, a good way of getting my money back IF i win a bet? any safe bets lol

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i should have bet on Froch but failed to trust all the wise members :(

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Well its your £50 quid notes at the end of the day Damien.;)

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Personally its the Germans for me as their squad is just maturing at the right time.

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Yeah i am not looking forwards to that game
Holland vs Germany is going to be either dead boring or 1 of the best games in the euros

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The first or the second game?

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Christ you must be confident.:)

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Nah, just joking. ;)

It's a tough group. First priority is to make it out. After that, anything can happen, but the good thing about facing Germany in the group stage is that you can't meet them again until the final.

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I don't often agree with balotelli, but appreciate the stance

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footba...acially-852987

It needs more than just a player walking out, other teams should do same. it would embarrass the football hierarchy

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I appreciate the stance as well, but I can't help thinking he's just substantially increased the odds of racist chants should Italy meet Poland or Ukraine.

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yeah agreed, nations as 1 should walk out not just players.

Fifa and UEFA are a joke. Why England gets shafted is beyond me. All to do with the national squad underachieving? so they give Wembley a go because English clubs do very well in Europe. What about selected national hosts, are they all winners or squads that have gone far?

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Ideally then they get punished, more fool them. But probably nothing happens to them except a minor fine, that Blatter and Co use for their next christmas party.

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Yeah, but they'd see it as a result if Balotelli were to walk. Why give them another incentive?

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Did anyone watch Panorama last night about the racism in Poland and Ukraine? If you didn't it is worth a watch. I will be very suprised if the tournament goes without incident and i am not suprised in the slightest that the families of Walcott and Oxlade-Chamberlain have said they will be staying at home. It seems that the Polish and Ukranian FA's have turned a blind eye to the racism in league matches in recent years, but have started to impose bans and fines on clubs recently as the tournament approaches, as they have realised they may come out looking very bad. Looking at some of the stuff that goes on in and around the stadiums, it would put me off going, i can't imagine any black or asian fans wanting to go if they saw the programme. The thing that suprised me the most was that it wasn't a minority of fans being racist, it was large number of them at the matches shown in the programme...

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Yeah, I saw part of it, and it was pretty scary stuff. Stewards didn't seem very interested in intervening when thugs turned on people supporting the same side but sporting the wrong skin colour.

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And now he has because Lampard is out. Not good for England...

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We will be lucky if we win match out of the three the way it is going.:(

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so long as we attempt to play decent footy im not fussed.

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Good point. Try and play some decent football..let the result be what it will be

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slight negative vibe there Colin? personally i dont want England to play static crap. if that gets a win and playimg decent footy doesnt then people need to wake up although thats been the case for a while now.

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I think you are missing the point, or inferring the wrong one

Instead of worrying about getting a result...focus on playing good football

Too often the result means more the the game, it should be the other way around. Good football should get you a result, not get a result even if it means playing negatively

If Spain or Brazil won the cup..playing dire football..would their fans think it was great?

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Why on earth do people keep complaining about it could be bad on England, when a player gets injured.

If Rooney gets injured, does that mean the Euro's are over for England. Of course not, its a chance for young blood to come in.

We cannot rely on the 'old guard' to play for this country, we have to have young blood and this is there chance.

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*Cough* Chelsea *Cough*

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Yes. And if Chelsea played that type of football, I suspect it would struggle to keep fans.

Chelsea this season relied on a lot of luck. That won't happen again.

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I agree. No disrespect to lampard, but he isn't exactly a Messi, or Ronaldo.

Will they win more if they had him..not sure...Are they critically weakened without him..don't think so.

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That does sound like sour grapes l am afraid Colin.:)

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Then again, you can put too much emphasis on attractive football.

Holland: three times losing finalists of the World Cup, one time winner of the European Cup. They are a bit more business-like these days. Here's hoping...

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sorry Colin i thought you was being sarci lol

agreed play good footy.

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Den, truth is not sour grapes...it is just that.

Or do you really think that Chelsea could repeat what they did based on the football they played?

Being critical is not same as criticism, and does not mean I have "sour grapes".

why would I? I am not a Barcelona or Bayern Madrid fan boy. My remarks are not based on being jealous, and if you look at previous posts, I wanted Chelsea to win.

But that doesn't mean I want negative football to be rewarded. And to be honest, i get bored watching Barcelona win always, but that is down to wanting competition.

Give me a Swansea who plays flowing football and doesn't win always to a...hmm..liverpool? Wait..they don't win always either :D.
(you make it too easy sometimes lol)

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At least Jordan Henderson has proven he is an ideal replacement for Lampard - he can't play with Gerrard either...


:)