Peer suspended after calling for bounty on Obama & Bush
 

Not fit to be a peer... :mad:

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Its treason so off with his head ;)

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$10 000 000 rewards on George Bushes heads fine by me, he has a lot of questions that need answering but I don't think it right he's flashing money about, I wonder how much his victims family got.

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I have a few suggestions on who should also have a bounty if Bush is going to get one :D

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It seems a rather silly, flippant remark to be honest. This kind of thing should just be ignored.

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He's going for the foreign footballer defence of saying he was misquoted. Although unlike most footballers caught slagging off their team to home media he may actually be right.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ack-Obama.html

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I have no problem with Blair being up before the beak for war crimes because i feel he has a few questions to answer about his lies

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American Talk show hosts and politicians had no such problems calling for Julian Assange to be executed.

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Do we have to go on about if he sohlud face war crimes?, I know that Bush is an idiot and Blair was rather flawed, but the claim that they should face war crimes is rubbish :td:

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So you have suggesing that letting Saddam kill Shias and Kurds and Islamists repress women and non extremists is a good idea? :mad:

Also it is alright that Islamists can kill people and get away with it? :mad:

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Yes imo we do have to go on about it, for the sake of all the people that died because of their lies and I hope people keep on going on about it until those responsible are held to account.

Where did he even remotely suggest that.

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Blair lied so that we could support America and take us into there War. We have lost good men in that war because of that lie. He should face charges and it just shows what side you have taken. I have a white feather here, Give me your address and i will send it to you.

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What's Blair upto nowadays anyway ,his silence is deafening ,same for Brown and Bush

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on Newsnight Bliar was on and mentioned he was giving speeches in America on philanthropy.

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Isn't philanthropy a very conservative ideal ?

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I just thought it was ironic considering both him and his wife try to shovel as much cash as they can.

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No....

You must be thinking of philately.....

You know the old saying - philately will get you everywhere.

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I thought he was an Irish dancer :shrug:

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Funny how no amount of cash will buy her any class or wash the blood of his hands.

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I wonder how history will speak of him in 100yrs time ?

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I don't care to be honest i will be worm food by then. I am only interested in what i call him now.

Its not nice and i would not post it here on a family forum ;)

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I understand that .
I would hope that it is recorded that he was taken to task over the lies and had to answer for them even if only for the lives that where lost in a unnecessary and illegal war .Of course i doubt that will happen as it all seems to have been quietly swept under the carpet

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They are not going to do that. The talk of bring President Bush and Blair to answer for warcrimes is quite naive. It isn't, and won't the be last, military operation conducted by a military power. It's also not really akin to other people who have been brought to trial for war crimes since most of those involve some sort of intentional slaughter of civilians, including genocides.

I mean why not also add in Sierra Leone and Bosnia to the charges?

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Also comparisons to the Nazis are utterly unjustified.

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Was the hypocrite in chief referring to the 'philanthropists' who're paying him so much for so little and funding his lavish lifestyle do you reckon?...

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Thats would would have happened if we did "Nothing"

Sure it was done on the basis of a lie, but it was a good idea anyway and should have been done much earlier

Also I can think of a lot of people who should stand for War Crimes than two ELECTED leaders! :mad: :td:

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Sirius for god sake I HAVE NOT TAKEN ANY SIDE!, I agree that Bush was a total idiot and Blair was rather flawed, alo that the Iraq and Afganistan Wars were done very badly, However those two do not deserve War Crimes charges and there a lot of of people who deserve them a lot more then those two :mad: :td:

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They got rid of two of the most repressive governments in the world, would you really want women bewing repressed in Kabul and Saddam killing Kurds?

Shame they did not deal with other Dictators, like Assad, Mugabe and many many others :(

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The Labour version of Thatcher, some like him very much, some very much hate him, I am in the middle

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Didn't you advocate the setting up of a world government and the forcing of countries into joining it? Sounds pretty dictorial to me.

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Bush and Blair went to war for reasons other than what they told their respective electorates .There where no WMA's and never where .If as you suggest it was a good thing that we went to war to remove Saddam from power ,what gives the US or GB the authority to decide who should be in power .Do we go to war everytime a dictator or government displeases us? .

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Where have I said that I will repress Women, LGBT and the Working people?

[Mod Edit - it is against CF Site T&C's to quote from Private Messages - repetition of this behaviour will invoke the infraction system]

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Yes I know that they went to war to remove Saddam, but yes that was a good thing, same we did not do it earlier and shame we did it so badly :(

Just Ask the Kurds and Shias

And Yes we should go to war to remove dictators and other human rights violators, starting with Syria and Bahrain :angel:

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Perhaps you should read the question. Instead of making one of your own up.

Also it's not for you to repeat ANY part of a PRIVATE message. Especially as yo only quoted a small part of it.

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That's good of you to volunteer so many people to die for your idiotic ideals :rolleyes:
It's not up to us to decide who should run countries .

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You were compairing me to a dictator, so that is why I suggested some of what those types of people do :td:

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You put forward the idea of the forced world government not me.

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Wars dont have to involved so many deaths, they are fighting for Freedom by the way which is what they did in WW2! :mad: :td:

Are you suggesting that we should have not delclared war aganist Hitler in 1939? :mad: :td:

Are you also suggesting that it is ok for leaders to Repress Women, Gays and the Working people, for killing people just becuase they protested?, for supporting terrorists? and for violating Human Rights? :mad: :td:

If we dealt with Germany, Italy and Japan much earlier then 1939, WW2 would not have happend and less peopel would have been killed in the long term :mad: :td:

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Well it is the best way of getting real and radical change (which is what we need) and making sure the working people are better off and the reforms are in favour of them :mad: :td:

Anyway most will vote yes :angel:

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Thus making you no better than the very people you are claiming to have a problem with in this thread.

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could someone give me a gun to shoot myself please

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I actually think this is Alans new tactic ,he trolls threads to get them shut down ,so i'm not playing anymore ,i'm out

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Look, firstly lets turn the tension down for a start, Lets me make it clear, this plan on a world government will only be done if over 50% of the votes all vote the world vote yes, I will only use force when a nation refuses to do what most of the people of the world want, let me put you the benefits of my plan:

1: More New Decent Jobs and Better Jobs for people at work

2: People like the Kurds to be given a state of their own

3: All over the world, people would recive better Human Rights

4: Better Racial, LGBT and Womens rights all over the world

5: Better Education, Health and Transport for all

6: Businesses either becoming state owned or co-operatives

7: A better chance of World Peace

8: More Autonomy for people who want it

9: Less Poltical and Relgious Extremism

etc

In other words a richer, more equal, peacful and better world

Which is what we need after a economic crisises and too many war zones

Surely we need a a fresh start, who would vote no to all that? :angel:

You don't have to agree with it by the way, but it is a good idea if you do

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It's not up to you to use force to impose your opinion on others for any reason. It's this part that makes you a prospective dictator.

The whole idea is not workable anyway.

And I'm not tense or wound up.

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So do we get the emotion removal drugs now or once the state starts, also shall we practice goose stepping or just plain simple lock stepping..

Also who's gonna tell obama (or future president) that he can't be the leader of the free world anymore (just make sure that he's not got the football with him!!! )

Why Mr Fry do all of your threads sound like old and outdated Sci-Fi novels???

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Have you been reading anything of my last post?

I am only using force to enforce a democratic mandate, if most of the world voted yes why should they go against the will of most of the world?

I fell the idea is workable, I mean it is the fresh start we need, along to the real and radical reform we also need

Also as Hugh said, this debate was getting rather heated

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What is it that dictators say just before taking power ? something like ......."it's for the good of the people"

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HHHmmm Terran Federation (Starship Troopers)?

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You will not be getting any emotion removal drugs, it will just a better version of what we have, only all over the world

And Obama is only leader of the USA, all of the Free World, otherwise we would be voting as well

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Ahhh, I understand it now, the bugs have learned how to type!!! :rofl:

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Yes I have listened to all your posts.

It's not up to you to force your will on anyone.

Yes you did seem rather irate because people wouldn't agree with you.

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Those people are all talk and no action, I will be doing radical reform and real change, also a Global government will be done only with a democratic mandate (so end this rubbish about me wanting a dictators)

Certainly I will not be repressing Women, LGBT and the workign people, nor will I kill people just because they protested about real issues

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If you have seen my posts, then you wound understand, which is not the case

Like I said, I am using force for democratic mandate and with good reason, and it was Hugh who told us to stop being irate

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I HAVE listened to ALL your posts and I understand what you are saying perfectly.

And I know who mentioned being irate. As I said you do seem to get easily wound up by people who won't agree with your extremist viewpoints.

BUT as always I'm not saying you are not entitled to them - you should expect them to be challenged though.

And as an aside maybe you should also learn that just because someone doesn't think the same way as you doesn't mean they are 'defending a failed system' - just that they don't agree with you.

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What for a World Goverment :shocked:

What planet are you on at the moment ????

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I think he means "You WILL vote yes"


Is this Alans version of his Reformed democracy

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Yet again you call someone who defends that rights of the working people as an extremist, and you have clearly ignored what I have wrote in terms of the Benefits of a Global Government :mad: :td:

I expect to be challegd, but it is clear that you (and your friends) are defending a failed system that I am fighting against

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They are not just voting for a Global Government, but for a Better Lifestyle, Better Education, Better Health, Better Jobs, Better Transport, A more peaceful world, more self government and a better world :angel:

Have you asked all 7 billion people on Earth what they think?

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I have ignored nothing. I call you an extremist as you advocate murder / violence / rioting and terrorism.

Interestingly you failed to take note of / ignored my last paragraph ;)

It's easy to claim you care / defend anything when you are hiding behind the anonymity of your PC isn't it Alan?

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You really do need to check up on the definition of extremism Whether someone fight for good, bad or neutrality and they take it to an extreme then they are an extremist.

:rolleyes:

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I have read that last paragraph, I know you (and your friends) diagree with me but do did the Boers of South Africa in 1948-1994, they were also defending a Failed System

Also I only advocate it becase It is nearly impossible to though democratic means, also I was aaimed the the Occupy movement, I was stating that that movement has failed and we need to look at other means, a lot of "Terrorist" did it for good reasons, but sadly a lot did it for bad reasons, I am doing it for good reasons

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You are being a terrorist for good reasons? Wow - just wow.

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Have you, Your the one who said they will vote YES so where is the evidence then ?

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I have not advocated a Communist, Relgious or Facist state and I have not stated any support for any of their ideas

Have I called for the repression of Women, A "Master Race" or a forced removal of the urban population to rural areas?

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I am not even a Terrorist in the first place, I have not develop or create any terror attacks, yet again another false claim :D

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Um no - you just said.

'a lot of "Terrorist" did it for good reasons, but sadly a lot did it for bad reasons, I am doing it for good reasons '

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There a lot of people who want to get out of poverty, want equality and a better life, a better lifestyle, self government and a decent job, healthcare, education and transport

Like I said have you asked 7 billion people what they think?

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I was showing you examples of Terrorists who have done good, and the only people who describe be as one is you and your friends

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I know what i would do to a terrorist :)

And remember there is no such thing as a good terrorist as there job is to terrorise people

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A system you know little about and yes doomed to failure and also wrong in so many ways but understandable as to how it came about..

I lived there during that time and have lived there in times after the end.. New government yet same old story..

As for this world government an interesting quote from a film once said I'm afraid that it also works in reverse..

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You don't have to be communist ,facist or religious to be a dictator .A dictator is someone who forces other people or countries to his will .You have said on numerous ocasions that countries that did not fall into line with your world government view would be forced to ,that makes your worl government a dictatorship ,that is not my view or opinion it is the definition of a dictator ,it is a FACT

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Nope you describe yourself as one. Not just in this thread but in many others.

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Alan don't expect me to answer that when you did not answer my question, YOU were the one who said they would vote for a world Government so YOU should have the evidence to back it up or its just another Alan Fry fantasy post

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You're the one assuming that 7 billion people will sign up to this world government of yours ,have you asked them ?

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I did ask him but as is the norm if it means using a brain cell he tends not to answer.

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The "Good" Terrorists are not Terrorists, but are called "Freedom Fighters" and other terms

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Saddam wasn't killing Kurds, wasn't a significant threat to his people or his neighbours and hadn't been for a considerable number of years prior to his toppling, it's been done to death on these boards by members considerably more familiar with things like facts than yourself.

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Let me put it clear to you, I know a lot about South Africa in 1948-1994, There are many benefits to a World Government that you and your friend simply ignore and It will only be done if most of the World votes yes

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Sounds like he's read a paper on the apartheid system.. :rofl:

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class :D
:LOL:

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So you are calling a government voted in by over 50% of the worlds population a dictatorship, it will only use force to enforce a democratic mandate and anyway nearly all dictatorships are either Nationalist, Communist, Facist or Relgious (sometimes a combination of some of them)

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I have never described myself as a terrorist, only you and our friends with your false claims :mad: :td:

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What would not vote for a better leftstyle, a better job, a poltical system not dominated by the wealthy and major businesses, better healthcare, better roads, better transport, better benefits, world peace, better human rights and a better and more equal society?

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Have you asked the Kurds in the first place, he killed millions of them, and he did the same with the Shias,it mihgt have been decades late, but better late than never :angel:

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You really do subscribe to the fantasists cook book don't you.
So your still not going to produce any real evidence to back up your claim which means there just more of your fantasies

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From dictionary .com

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Terrorist

1. a person, usually a member of a group, who uses or advocates terrorism.




Terrorism

1. the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes.

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You advocate murder and violence to meet your political aims.

As I said you describe yourself as one.

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The only people who are fantasists are people who defend and promote a failed system and make false claims against people to challenge it (like you and your friends) :mad: :td:

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I don't want to use violence at all, but its not easty to do it via democratic means

The only people who descibe me as a terrorist are people like you :td:

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LOL it's how YOU describe YOURSELF...... Have a read through your other posts :)

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No that is not the case :mad:

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I don't think that anyone is suggesting that the current system couldn't be improved or even replaced, what is being suggested (and seems to be suggested in all of your threads) is that your so called replacement is pure fantasy..

As for us and our friends, well it's almost as though you're suggesting that having friends is bad for you and I really do wonder why you keep saying it????

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If you say so Alan, I'll let others make up their own mind based on your own posts.

Have a good day :)

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Yes it is and you are a supporter of a failed political system, Its called the EU

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Those without friends are always jealous of those with friends :LOL:

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I did not realise that feeding time at the bridge extended for so long :)

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No I asked Amnesty International, you know the guys that were speaking out about Saddam and his regime whilst we were flogging him the WMD's to prop him up, THEY said he wasn't a threat anymore to his people or neighbours and no it's not better late than never if it costs over half a million lives in the process.

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Mainly in expletives? :D

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I already do :)