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Water companies are now bringing in hosepipe bans to save water.

BUT, how pathetic are these rules, A normal resident is banned from using a hosepipe to clean his car or water his plants.
But you can go down the road and see Car Washers wasting thousands of gallons of water washing cars and allowing it to go down the drain.

And it states on the websites that you can wash a car using a bucket, IF not filled up by a hosepipe.

IF there is a hose pipe ban, then it should apply to everyone.:mad:

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You just don't think before posting do you
businesses are exempt for obvious reasons Arthur ,do you want to deprive people of their living ?

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Yes of course, then he can whinge about all that unemployment... :nutter:

If they announced a major reservoir, desalination and/or water programme he'd whine about the cost in terms of water prices and/or taxes and then be first to blame them when the weather suddenly turned wet again....

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Why do cars need to be clean anyway?

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The car wash just around the corner from me recycles the water it uses through filters and uses it again.

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If the drought continues then car washes will be shut down next as they where in '76 ,there are legal issues with having a dirty car as well ,involving lights ,number plate and the colour of the car

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It makes them run better. Didn't you know? :D

I use a waterless washing system anyway - it's fantastic.

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You cant stop the economy ticking though thats the crux of it.

However by stopping hosing they really dont do much preventation of the issue if many dont use them anyway. Although it only takes one its lot water consumption.

• Shower - 35 litres
• Bath - 80 litres
• Brushing teeth (tap on) - 6 litres/min
• Brushing teeth (tap off) - 1 litre
• Toilet - 7-9 litres
• Washing machine - 65 litres
• Dishwasher - 20 litres
• Washing car with bucket- 10 litres
• Hosepipe/sprinkler - 540 litres/hour

It maybe needs businesses reclye water bit more but it then needs filterisation process nobody turn up for dirty water car clean.

There article in beeb our only options one was huge migration from south east to more afluent water areas. Arthur do fancy living lake district or scotland. Get all the water you can drink and use :)

Cant see government doing this there baby is the south east.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17600062

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indeed the weight saving cannot be ignored :D

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They pay a lot more for the water than normal users IIRC

Maybe if the water companies didn't loose millions of gallons due to leaky pipes no one would need torecycle and of course the South East's their baby it provides most of the cash for their vanity projects.

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A cloth should do untill the ban is over, infact those rain water catchers should be installed for folk who wash the car in the droughts, seems crazy that fresh purified drinking water is used for something that really is unimportant

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Just move up north, we have plenty of water :)

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Hopefully that'll stop my neighbour across the road who kept leaving his/her sprinkler on from 9am till they got back from work at 5pm, last summer.

It's a shame the government kept declining permission to build more reservoirs, then perhaps we wouldn't have this problem AS often.

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Quite agree, but there is still the issue of people with car washing businesses and as The Daddy said they pay a lot more ,i believe the price is based on the rateable value of the land if they don't have a meter fitted

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Yes, it's not just the water companies who're culpable. Decades of government neglect, planning problems and more recently, rapid population growth in the SE have exacerbated the problem.

If weather patterns continue to be unpredictable then it's going to take a brave government and/or water industry to pump billions into drought or flood prevention measures.

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The South East provides most of the money for everything, don't see what that's got to do with anything however. There isn't enough water, let's ration it a bit until there is, job done.

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What's even weirder is that if you get somebody else to clean your car or windows at your own house, they can use a hosepipe from your water supply.
Might be worth pointing out another potentially useful exemption.
If you think you might qualify for disability reasons(eg disabled Bus Pass), but don't drive and therefore don't have a Blue Badge, you could ask(eg via email) your water supplier.

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theory is less pressure on water supplies more even distribution. The economy should stay the same with fairer distribution jobs.

The issue would need to turn ghost towns back to nature and arable farming. Not withstanding destruction northern country for new towns/cities or expansions.

We probably talking moving circa 2m pop and jobs to go with it.

The other solutions are expensive but which is actually cheapest.

The cop out is metered and higher prices sadly can see this being used every homes. It still wont solve the problem just pass the buck to later.

Its has been years lack forsight old system population anomalties and job market just ignored even encouraged by governments for long time.

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Moving two million people - are you being serious?

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You called :)

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A serious question, how as a consumer in an area that might be affected (no one has formally told me, but I suspect I am), am I supposed to know that restrictions are legally applying and what those restrictions are? I haven't had any formal communication from my water company. Am I expected to have just somehow become aware because of articles in the news?

I have a pond, that to replace the current fish if they die might due to their size and age set me back perhaps over £2000. Can I use my hose to keep those fish alive by topping up the pond as it dries out, or to flush out the filters? My water board, not the internet or other gossip in media sources, should be formally adivsing me of what is or is not allowed.

Equally, if the water board are restricting my supply, will my water bill be similarly restricted. I am not metered.

Oh and there are a lot of suggestions about using showers instead of baths. I'm not convinced that actually saves that much water for many modern properties with mains or power showers especially if they have some of those larger shower heads. My own shower for example is well capable of running out of hot water from the cylinder after only a few minutes.

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It is just how things have turned out. Why all the complaining? It won't last forever. When it does really rain again everyone will bitch about that instead.;)

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You could check the website of your local water supplier.
From Anglia Water website.

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I could, but why should I as the paying customer have to ferret the information out from my water supplier when they as the supplier should be formally telling me that a restriction applies. Whilst I won't unduly waste water, in the absence of any formal communication from my water board, I will assume I am not restricted, and use the resource I am paying for in a normal manner.

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Dont quote me if you got fish in pond your allowed to top it up bedford gov says the following

You can use a hosepipe to:

• Clean graffiti off a public building
• Top up a public swimming pool
• Fill or top up a pond that has fish in it
• Transport rain water from a water butt
• Deal with dangerous or urgent health, safety or biosecurity issues

http://www.centralbedfordshire.gov.u...epipe-ban.aspx

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FLOODS:D

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You are talking about moving 2 million people and their jobs. Thus you would need housing for those 2 million. To give an idea of the size of that project, you are suggesting moving a group of people that is equivalent to a 3rd of Greater London.

Factor in the cost of either providing jobs, or benefits, and it could end up being cheaper to transport the water to the south east. A lot cheaper.

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Even if you did it by bucket :)

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this what said we have to way up which cheaper option out these.

It may be cheaper new resevoirs but environmentalist do there nuts and nimbyism will stop it.

Up north though there is alot run down estates with lots empty property bit modernising could be perfectly able to be re-housed.

Dont think the issue would be job creation if the government expanded the regeneration. encoured the move jobs would come about. Not all jobs viable to be moved some actually would benefit nearer the trade routes.

I actually been puzzled for years why factories built nowhere near the export hubs they use. Surely saving on transport costs good strong labour force and they save money with cheaper land/property. I think lot time they move to london as the property value can been used better collateral for loans from bank expansion. Its always great add few noughts to the company value. Problem with the thinking is wages higher & transportation costs.

It needs a gradual rethink sort like slow retreat. If we cap the housing so it dont spiral out control the country might benefit northern migration.

Not say only solution or pratical due to costs but if it was cheapest option we would have to seriously consider it. Yep 2m no mean task but would eleviate the pressure of south east.

In ideal world there would be proper modern water, energy, transport network. That would be staggering costs so solution is adapt to what we got spread out.

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I resent that ,the estates are no more run down up north, than down south ,and what makes you think we northerners want you southerners coming here and using all our clogs and flat caps up :dozey:

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Or down to Plymouth where we have two big reservoirs.

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You just couldn't make it up could you? The billions of pounds made by these water companies are supposed to be invested in the infrastructure, obviously they aren't doing that.

The UK is surrounded by water so why can't we desalinate like all the other countries do??

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Thames water made £208.5 million pre tax profit last year and they spent about £250m on a brand new desalination plant at the Thames estuary .Water companies are making less money as more people are put on meters and using less .Anglian waters profits where £709m last year but have debts of 6.4billion ,so all is not rosy in the water garden perhaps needs watering ;)

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Very interesting ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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As far as I'm concerned the water companies only have themselves to blame for falling profits .Looking at the graph below it's not as though the profit margin is small .If they have failed to invest when they where making the profits then i would suggest that the regulatory body(OFWAT) wasn't doing it's job properly.Now the lack of investment is coming back to bite them up the arse



http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/at...1&d=1333612130

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As far as I know, businesses have to have a water meter.

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We all like to see flowers in bloom in parks and on verges and roundabouts. But it really annoys me when there is a hosepipe ban, but the councils still have sprinklers going. Personally I don't think this should be included in the exemption. We can make do without flowers in these places whilst there is a water shortage. And it would also save money in these difficult economic times.

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Most of you probably don't realise, but in some areas the water companies have cut the water pressure to fire hydrants. This can obviously cause a serious issue with firefighting operations.

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And what do you use on your car? :erm:

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I do indeed have on and have noted that - cheers ;) :tu:

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True

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Yes, I must admit I'd expected some form of notification from Thames Water but found all the detail prominently on their website. I'm not sure how much value bits of paper have as many people don't even bother to read them. As usual, those with a bit of common sense, hear it on the news or see it in the papers and make the effort to find out whilst those who think decanting petrol near an open flame is a good idea remain oblivious to it all. We recently received out water bill and there was no specific mention of the impending drought restrictions and that would have been a good idea IMHO.

Your point about simplistic advice re bath v. shower demonstrates the problem the authortities/companies have when trying to communicate important information to the widest possible audience. Most of us know the figures quoted can only be averages, that the amount of water used by a shower depends on all sorts of factors and will make suitable changes to our behaviour to try to save water. There's a sizeable proportion however for whom the new rules will mean nothing even if they bother to read them. For these people ignorance is indeed bliss and I wonder how many will think spending 15 mins in a power shower is saving water as compared to having a bath.

Anyway, here's Thames Water's offering.

http://www.thameswater.co.uk/cps/rde....xsl/15443.htm

Having said that, they've acted before the summer starts and I'd expect that now the ban is in force the water companies will be making extra efforts to communicate the facts to the public, the cost of which will ultimately be borne by the suffering customers.

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It's called Showroom Shine and I've been using it for several years. It is a fabulous product which requires no water and minimal effort, not only cleaning the vehicle but also protecting it and keeping it clean for longer. We're in a hard water area and water marks were always a big problem when cleaning our cars but now they're a thing of the past.

I got it from Ideal World because I'd be able to return it if not satisfied. I must admit I was a huge cynic before trying it but after doing so I've never used anything else. If you check out the reviews section you'll see it has a large number of primarily 5 star ratings.

http://www.idealworld.tv/BOGOF_Greased_Lightning_Showroom_Shine_1_Litre_171 785.aspx?fh_location=//idealworld/en_GB/$s=showroom

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Indeed. The cost of desalination, water grids and reservioir building would be huge with no guarantee that they'd be needed by the time they were eventually built. Imagine the fuss if £billions were spent on all that and then the weather reverted to our usual wet climate with flooding a regular event. To an extent HMG and the companies are damned if they do and damned if they don't.

Re leaks, I heard one environmental commentator making the point that if all the long standing leaks are fixed quite a large number of London's trees may either die or cause new subsidence problems in our clay soil.

The point about being reported for using a hose via a water butt is a good one which I've raised before in another thread. We'd like to use a hose to syphon bath water onto the garden but I'd be reluctant to do so for that very reason.

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Personnally if a neighbour tried that with me i would just carry on knowing i was in the right

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I presume it's no good for mud or grit, as this would scratch your paint?

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The problem is you'd probably be shopped anonymously and then have all the hassle of trying to prove what you were doing to the water company. I'd rather not be in that position.

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I suppose it depends on the process of issuing fines. If they just send a plane over your house to take photos, and then use that as evidence, then you could end up having to fight it in court. :erm:

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If you read the reviews by people who've actually used it you will see it doesn't do that. It lubricates the surfaces to prevent any scratching and both our cars are paint swirl free zone unlike the ones I jused to wash the traditional way. Having said that, I think large amounts of dried on mud etc. would be better softened with water and the worst removed before using the product.

Before I first tried it on my car I applied some building sand to a piece of highly polished stainless steel sheet, sprayed it with the product then rubbed it in with my fingers. I didn't scratch the surface at all so I tried it on the car and haven't used anything since.

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Yes, you have the hassle of proving you're innocent.

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I have an official exemption, but how will any neighbours know that?
From an EmailDo the water usage figures for a hosepipe refer to where it is fully 'open'? Using a spray on a hosepipe to water a garden would use a lot less. Which figure are the water companies using for their estimates of savings of water usage?

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This is the UK for gods sake innocence is presumed untill otherwise proven ....isn't it? ;)

Does make one wonder how much money and recourses will be used enforcing the ban and how much the total bill for that will be ,will the water companies start issuing fines to boost their flagging profits?

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Guardian

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My gripe is Londoners pay less for their un-metered water than we do with Thames Water,. :fit:

If they actually repaired pipes there would be far less wasted.

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Yes it is but innocent people get accused, fined and/or brought to court every day. It's still a hassle even if you're cleared or charges are dropped.

It'll be interesting to see what burden of proof the water companies will rely upon if court cases result. I'd imagine they'd issue warnings first then target anyone reported after being warned try to obtain pictures or video footage.

'Could' being the operative word. I'd imagine there'd be several stages before it got to a fine.

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They won't so you may get reported and have to prove your exemption in the same way that genuine Blue Badge holders sometimes have to do when parking. Nobody's going to knock on your door and demand £1000 just like that. There are many factors which govern how much water things like hoses and showers use. The advice has to be general and is based on average figures for illustrative purposes. The point is to try to alter people's behaviour to save water before things get really and standpipes are required. Hosepipes and sprinklers use a lot of water and so are the main focus of the ban.

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one solution is rain harvesting.

We not just talking buts for gardening but full system turn to drinking water, toilet flushing showers.

http://www.rainwaterharvesting.co.uk/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainwater_harvesting

http://www.oas.org/DSD/publications/...ea59e/ch10.htm

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We could always filtration dirty waste water back to drink water like they do in space station although people will YUK wont do that.

this link if click top left & right got quite few alternatives.

http://www.oas.org/DSD/publications/....htm#TopOfPage

I always felt we backward nation water from paths go into gutters which got to the sea. A road system which runs to underground storage tanks.

http://www.oas.org/DSD/publications/....htm#TopOfPage

We got snow in scotland yet nowbody thought sending trucks bring it back down south dump it in storage.

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Er what? :dozey:

Have you any idea how much snow you need to even get a litre of water?

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doesn't work if it doesn't rain

Totally unrealistic and financially un viable

and apart from that it's water the south want not snow :angel:;)

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Clearly not! Or the vast cost of transporting any significant amount of snow, ice or water any great distance.
:dunce:

Trucks bringing snow to London from Scotland..... :confused:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl::rofl: :rofl:

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Unfortunately cant where I live .

I would assume to drink would need filtration unit as it said in links it could get contaminated.

gazzae we all trying to brain storm se if there any ways we can make things less of issue.

alot ideas may not be pratical but just thought on add hoc the crazy situation scotland it snows but elsewhere got drought.

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I overheard 2 blokes discussing the water shortage this morning, and one made what he obviously regarded as a well thought-out statement:

"They just need a big pipeline from Scotland to Essex, no need to pump it as it's all downhill from Scotland to Essex."

:dunce::dunce::dunce:

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The mind boggles..... :D

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:D

Although he has a point if essex below the sea level of scotland but small matter other areas would be up hill.

Still need to use a pump stations to increase preasure to get it to essex.

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indeed but filtering water which comes out of toilet already happens in some countries turned back into drinking water.

it probably wood be expensive before the oil industry built pipe from humber to hemel hempstead it was all transported by fleet of tanker lorries. I wonder how much it cost them to do it this way.

Another solution link each resevior to each one be able to pump it refil when low from one area to other.

It would cost but dont think any solution cheap

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No he doesn't ,any kind of pipe line from scotland/north England with enough fall on it to flow to the south of England would have such a head of water by the time it reached the south it would be like putting Niagra Falls in a 20" pipe

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I didn't realise water was being banned. What will happen when it rains? Will a ticket be issued to God? :shrug:

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In the area's where you live, count how many car washers there are that are using pressure guns.

Most of these places are opening up all the time, some of them could be illegal traders as a form of making money, yes there is a law stating that cars must have clean VRM plates and lights, but is it fair that these car washers are throwing away gallons of preceouse water while will be have to abide by the law.

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You seem to have a bee in your bonnet about people earning a living washing cars Arthur ,why ?,didn't they clean yours properly .And to be clear the water is not wasted it ends up back in the system

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doesn't the water go straight through the trolley when they tip the buckets in ?:D

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It does in the trolley wash... :)

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:LOL:

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Yeah it does seem pretty silly to ban water, perhaps they only mean the stuff that comes out of taps full of fluoride :scratch:

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In my local news they say the disabled are excempt from the hosepipe ban.

why?

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no idea ,i was wondering that myself

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To be fair I think they were referring to washing the car more than anything. but if there were a million disabled people wanting to wash their cars with a hosepipe compared to 22 wanting to wash it with a bucket. then what's the point in a ban when it doesn't really matter?

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wheelchair users is one possibility it could be issue with water cans but there is adaptions with lids.

Some may not be able to carry water but there could be argument pressure could be hard for them to hold it.

Disabled who unsteady with frames etc

Not saying these cases correct just idea what they mean.

Some will give better indicators why certain disabled need exemptions.

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I can understand the 'disability' side of it, but a ban should be a ban really. it just seems like an authority thing that doesn't count for nothing.

why fine someone a £1,000.00 depending on his or her ability to carry a bucket. when it comes down to a shortage of supply, and not ones ability?

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The thing that puzzles me is that if somebody cleans your car for you at your home, they can use a hosepipe, but you are not allowed to clean it yourself using a hosepipe. Same amount of water used either way.

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If it's a matter of shortage of supply, then even using watering cans shouldn't be allowed. That is unless you're using grey water(eg bath water).

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Exactly. that's why I'd ignore it anyway. what do you get out of reporting somebody for carrying a hosepipe? do you get a cut of the £1,000 they've made?

if no then who cares whether they're using a hospipe?
your toilet will still flush and you can still fill your kettle for that cup of tea.

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I think it's blue badge holders rather than the disabled full stop that are exempt.

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Able people can fill (several) watering cans and use those to water plants in 'remote locations'. Disabled people may be dependent on hose pipes for reaching these locations.

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For the time being maybe. In future months, who knows?

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That's even worse then. it's just a good job that they both include motor vehicles.
but the end result is a shortage of water and how that water is applied to the car to enable it to be washed.

clean car = water
water shortage = no water
no water = abled or disabled
= make it up as we go along.

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it's not that bad. if it was they'd ban everybody. not just a select few.

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If something is easier to do then people are more likely not to think too much about whether it is actually needed. Eg using a hosepipe to water a garden requires a lot less effort than lugging watering cans about. Paying somebody else to clean your own car costs more than using a hosepipe to clean it yourself. Therefore you are likely to have your car cleaned less often eg once a month vs every Sunday.

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I understand what your saying they just have to be seen to do things wonder how many in past actually been procecuted.

We seem to be encouraging neighbourhood spies.

Its always been grey area. I always wish if was ever possible work out which was most damaging.

We know hoses are heavy users but as whole is water consumption of tea/coffee drinkers more:D

I admit we use it alot but ours now 1 cup water discharger. Its absolute brilliant cut even electric consumption.

However the problem if all the tea/coffee drinking did use more than hose pipers. You would never get water companies say ban kettles:shocked:

I understand business as long use it sensibly then got let them use water. So realistically domestic hose bans are only thing they can do.

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Select few being banned? They're obviously trying to reduce usage by just enough to possibly avoid have to ban everybody and have standpipes in the streets. It may work, then again(especially if everybody ignores the problem) it may not.

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They can ban what they like, and I'd comply with that ban. as long as they give me a refund on my water charges.

you can't take money for something and then not expect me to use it because the sun shone more than predicted, and the rain didn't come as expected :)

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Well I'd say a high percentage of people don't flush their toilet till the end of the day due to being green. and a high percentage of people probably use water quantities by the teaspoonful, due to being green. so that helps.

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If you're on a water meter, then as you use less, you pay less,

Being green also means possibly having a garden and/or allotment with fruit and veg growing that need watering.

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You mean we'll have to start filling the kettle from the toilet? :erm:

I think I'd rather buy Perrier.

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Have you ever tried making tea with bottled water? It's usually foul...

I lived close to the town of Spa in Belgium (famous for it's .... ummm... spa waters). Having a cup of tea (or coffee) using the local water could induce projectile vomitting....

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Just as daft as Thames Water doing daily pump outs to clear a drain because they were arguing with BT over who was responsible for the damage. Finally fixed over a year later. :fit:

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same source ;)

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Whats the big deal about washing cars! Leave them dirty untill a time when the ban is lifted, wipe the licence plate and mirrors with a cloth

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The hosepipe ban applies to both washing cars and watering gardens.

You can't expect someone with mobility problems to carry heavy watering cans around the garden.

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The ban should cover everyone, to wash a car you are allowed to wash it using a bucket.

All these companies that are ' car washers' use high powered guns ALL day, but to me the water ban should apply to everyone

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Any blue badge holder is exempt from the ban

http://www.hosepipeban.org.uk/2012/0...rictions-2012/

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so you want to increase unemployment Arthur .That's really nice of you

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maybe he just wants them to use buckets

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Yes, but blue badges are usually for mobility problems.

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So you want to put the car wash companies out of business then do you, and put more people on the dole?

Most of them use a jet wash, which actually use far less water on average than a normal hosepipe.

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maybe he wants to think before he rants

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As it's not a legal requirement the exemption (with regards the blue badge holder) for watering your garden (not washing your car which it doesn't cover) can also be taken away by the local water company concerned.

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I promise you. nobody will prosecute you for using that hosepipe to wash your car. you might end up in a fisty cuff with the disgusted and fuming neighbour though.

but just set it to jet when you see him storming over.

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Further restrictions may be introduced if the situation doesn't improve. These are just initial steps. It may be more about changing people's general mindset to use less water, than any specific restrictions.

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Which was your statement :rolleyes:

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You are being very nieve to believe that :rolleyes:

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Sorry, I don't see your point??

Re: How stupid is the water ban
 

most of them advertise as hand car wash -using a bucket and sponge would make it a true hand wash .

Re: How stupid is the water ban
 

either way they are a business and so exempt ,specifically to avoid job losses