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Derek 30-03-2012 05:30

George Galloway wins Bradford West by-election
 
Proof that voters in large chunks of the land are idiots. :shocked:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17549388

peanut 30-03-2012 05:39

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Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35407003)
Proof that voters in large chunks of the land are idiots. :shocked:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17549388

I would also say the same if they voted for the Tories. This result as quoted 'his victory represented a "total rejection" of the major parties'. And I don't see anything idiotic about that.

TheDaddy 30-03-2012 05:41

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Originally Posted by peanut (Post 35407008)
I would also say the same if they voted for the Tories. This result as quoted 'his victory represented a "total rejection" of the major parties'. And I don't see anything idiotic about that.

Neither do I, at last a socialist is back in the House of Commons.

Peter_ 30-03-2012 05:43

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Maybe his rivals should have used this picture to remind voters that he is a publicity whore.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2012/03/1.jpg

denphone 30-03-2012 05:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by peanut (Post 35407008)
I would also say the same if they voted for the Tories. This result as quoted 'his victory represented a "total rejection" of the major parties'. And I don't see anything idiotic about that.

Exactly peanut.:tu:

Sirius 30-03-2012 06:14

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35407013)
Exactly peanut.:tu:

I would not vote for that man if my life depended on it

denphone 30-03-2012 06:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35407016)
I would not vote for that man if my life depended on it

But don't you think 'his victory represented a "total rejection" of the major parties' Sirius?.:)

TheDaddy 30-03-2012 06:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35407016)
I would not vote for that man if my life depended on it

Given the choice of George, Dave, Nick or Ed, George gets my vote every time, say what you want about him (and many have tried and failed to including the US senate and lots of newspapers) but he stands up for what he believes in, those other plastic PR mens wet dream would sell their own grannys for a sniff of power.

chris9991 30-03-2012 06:19

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Isn't this just gorgeous?:erm:

Osem 30-03-2012 07:11

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George has enjoyed and fully exploited the luxury of being an erudite but nonetheless loose political canon for years. I doubt he'd act in quite the same way if he was heading a major party vying for power with all of the attendant national/international responsibilities, media scrutiny, political pressures, forced compromises, conflicts of interest, internal rivalries etc. etc. Galloway is little more than an entertaining (at times) sideshow and Milliband is the really big loser here followed closely by Galloway's new constituents.

Maggy 30-03-2012 07:12

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I would never vote for a man who turns my stomach the way he does.He is a oily car salesman,a reptile and a skunk and I'd never give him the time of day let alone my vote.

I'd trust every idiot in the main stream parties before him every time because they are just idiots compared to him.

LexDiamond 30-03-2012 07:26

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Problem with voting outside the main parties is that the candidates are full of crap.

What exactly can George do for the real issues? Not much. The Tory can because he is a member of party that actually have a policy on just about everything that matters to a voter. The labour candidate also the same (but he might mumble a bit). George? Well not much.

We don't need to look further beyond the Lib Dems. When they thought they couldn't get elected to running government their policies used to sound great. They ended up in government by default and now go back on any of the policies that were impressive.

There is huge difference between winning a bielection and making a useful contribution. Sorry but the British public lost out by electing this idiot.

Damien 30-03-2012 07:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35407018)
Given the choice of George, Dave, Nick or Ed, George gets my vote every time, say what you want about him (and many have tried and failed to including the US senate and lots of newspapers) but he stands up for what he believes in, those other plastic PR mens wet dream would sell their own grannys for a sniff of power.

Shame he doesn't do this job however. Deciding that Big Brother was more important than the vote on Crossrail, which is going though what was then his constituency. He is interested in his own ego and publicity, it wasn't the only time he prioritised media commitments over parliamentary commitments (i.e actual voting). His defence was in to invoke Tony Blair's record of attending less than he did whilst refusing to take into account that Blair was the Prime Minster.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Telegraph
The politicians who do the least work while submitting the largest expenses claims are exposed in a league table produced following an investigation by The Sunday Telegraph. Those who work the hardest for the lowest cost are also identified....

...At the other end of the table George Galloway, the only MP for the far-left Respect party, is rated the worst-value MP. He turned up for only one in twenty votes, far fewer than any other MP, yet claimed £136,000 in expenses.


Bradford have elected someone who will do squat for them. A professional contrarian whose 'beliefs' seems to revolve around a naive and simplistic notion that the West is always at fault. The Falklands belong to Argentina, not because of any rational and logical argument, but because of 'British Imperialism' and he will continue to rail against such Imperialism with great oratory to the delight of his fans but refuse to engage in any substance. That is on what he has based a career in politics in.

Still, at least the people of Bradford West get to see their name on a byline during one of his many forthcoming interviews in lieu of seeing it in a a parliamentary voting record.

The only good that can come of this is more pressure on Ed Miliband to step aside and get someone in who knows what they are doing.

Sirius 30-03-2012 07:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35407017)
But don't you think 'his victory represented a "total rejection" of the major parties' Sirius?.:)

I just think the voters who voted for the member for Baghdad North are idiots, At least he beat that numpty Millebore


I would call Galloway a traitor but that would not be a strong enough word to cover him fully

Osem 30-03-2012 07:50

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35407039)
I just think the voters who voted for that idiot are idiots as well

I'd imagine it has more to do with Galloway's anti-Israel stance than anything else.

Hugh 30-03-2012 07:53

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A consummate self-publicist, who actually did very little for the constituents of Bethnal Green and Bow, who couldn't be bothered turning up to vote very often at the House of Commons (approx. 8% of votes), and who famously said to Saddam Hussein when he visited him in 1994
Quote:

"Sir, I salute your courage, your strength, your indefatigability"
He will be representing himself in the House (when he turns up), not his constituents, IMHO.

"Bradford Spring", my arse - comparing a by-election with armed insurrection in Libya and Syria just sums up this man's self-obsession and bloated view of his status.

Taf 30-03-2012 09:11

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35407052)
I'd have thought the anti Iraq and Afghanistan war stance would have gone down rather well with the Muslim segment of the electorate.

I reckon that's all that got him elected.

Pierre 30-03-2012 09:29

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I can't stand the guy, but that's not the point.

The fact that a labour stronghold since 1975 has been lost to this idiot is the story.

The Bradford people couldn't vote for the Tories in such a labour area, they couldn't vote for the LibDems as they're in bed with the Tories otherwise I think they'd have done quite well.

More importantly they couldn't even vote for Labour whilst Ed Silliband is in charge, so they put their tick against the only other candidate they'd heard of.

This is a damning verdict of a Labour heartland on what they think of the current labour leadership, and I think it's great.

I don't think Ed will make it to the next election.

Chris 30-03-2012 09:40

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Whatever you think of Gorgeous George (and that's not an awful lot, in my case), our political landscape is in dire need of mavericks and people who think differently to the crowd. Westminster will be a better place with him back in it.

Sirius 30-03-2012 09:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35407093)
I don't think Ed will make it to the next election.

Personally i hope he does, It makes Labour unelectable

denphone 30-03-2012 10:03

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...-labour-harman

Bradford West byelection result is very bad for Labour, Harriet Harman admits.

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Harriet Harman, the deputy Labour party leader, has admitted the result of the Bradford West byelection was "very bad" for Labour.

Labour's shocked candidate Imran Hussain was crushed by a 36.59% swing from Labour to Respect that saw George Galloway take the seat with a majority of 10,140 on a turnout of just over 50%.

Voters turned their backs on the mainstream parties with Labour's share of the vote down 20% on its 2010 figure, while the Conservatives dropped by almost 23% and the Liberal Democrats lost their deposit after netting 4.59% of the votes, down 7% on the 2010 general election result. Galloway's result represented the first byelection win by an independent since 1973 and the first time an opposition party has lost one of its seats since the Romsey byelection in 2000

Hugh 30-03-2012 10:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35407098)
Whatever you think of Gorgeous George (and that's not an awful lot, in my case), our political landscape is in dire need of mavericks and people who think differently to the crowd. Westminster will be a better place with him back in it.

If he turns up, that is - unlikely, if you go by his past record.....

mertle 30-03-2012 10:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35407085)
I reckon that's all that got him elected.

yep me too taf

its funny one for me did the electorate show distancing from 3 main parties doubt it lib/dems would been bludgeoned last week they won. Same with conservatives. So its more they supported galloway anti war.

You either love him foroutspokeness or think he clown. However never towed the partly line dont think he should been removed by labour. It was crass approach.

I wondering if this was victory for the people to show parties you cant remove the whip just because you dont like him not towing the line.

I wonder if people should vote the MP who will represent the party they wish away to get round this.

So labour and others put forward more than one you vote you prefered MP instead we getting told He's your Party representative.

Ban the whip.

If its disipline it should be house decide if its sackable such the MP who had fight. Although the investigations should be thorough find if provokation involved.

End the day MP's should be forced to tow party line sooner this abolished the better.

Osem 30-03-2012 11:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35407098)
Whatever you think of Gorgeous George (and that's not an awful lot, in my case), our political landscape is in dire need of mavericks and people who think differently to the crowd. Westminster will be a better place with him back in it.

Well it'll certainly be more entertaining. However, I doubt Bradford West will be a better place.

TheDaddy 30-03-2012 13:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35407029)
Shame he doesn't do this job however. Deciding that Big Brother was more important than the vote on Crossrail, which is going though what was then his constituency. He is interested in his own ego and publicity, it wasn't the only time he prioritised media commitments over parliamentary commitments (i.e actual voting). His defence was in to invoke Tony Blair's record of attending less than he did whilst refusing to take into account that Blair was the Prime Minster.




Bradford have elected someone who will do squat for them. A professional contrarian whose 'beliefs' seems to revolve around a naive and simplistic notion that the West is always at fault. The Falklands belong to Argentina, not because of any rational and logical argument, but because of 'British Imperialism' and he will continue to rail against such Imperialism with great oratory to the delight of his fans but refuse to engage in any substance. That is on what he has based a career in politics in.

Still, at least the people of Bradford West get to see their name on a byline during one of his many forthcoming interviews in lieu of seeing it in a a parliamentary voting record.

The only good that can come of this is more pressure on Ed Miliband to step aside and get someone in who knows what they are doing.

I heard him say catagorically that his expenses were zero pounds so some one's telling lies, given the number of time he's been to court and proven libled I'll go with him especially as his name would have been top of the pile during the expenses scandle.

Damien 30-03-2012 14:30

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35407231)
I heard him say catagorically that his expenses were zero pounds so some one's telling lies, given the number of time he's been to court and proven libled I'll go with him especially as his name would have been top of the pile during the expenses scandle.

Well that wasn't my point, it was about him not performing his duties as an MP whilst lecturing people about democracy. It was about his awful attendance record for parliament and his choice to appear on Big Brother instead of turning up for one of the most important votes in his constituency.

However a quick Google shows he did claim expenses as an MP. I am not sure why he said it, it's a matter of public record for the most part. I suspect his most loyal fans would take him at his word.

http://mps-expenses.guardian.co.uk/r...orge-galloway/

The expenses themselves are not order of order for the most part, it's just when it's weighed against his attendance record that it doesn't reflect well. Although if he has claimed he never took any expenses it's more evidence of his tendency for self promotion over substance.

Hugh 30-03-2012 14:59

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35407231)
I heard him say catagorically that his expenses were zero pounds so some one's telling lies, given the number of time he's been to court and proven libled I'll go with him especially as his name would have been top of the pile during the expenses scandle.

They Work For You - George Galloway

Expenses are at the bottom of the webpage - according to this, he claimed

2008-09 £130,340
2007-08 £136,390
2006-07 £107,610
2005-06 £107,030
2004-05 £145,072
2003-04 £105,973
2002-03 £126,759
2001-02 £84,773

That totals up to approx. £940,000, which is a bit more than "zero pounds"....

And in the "Members Interests" section, it shows he earns approx 200k per annum on his speaking and media engagements.

http://www.theyworkforyou.com/regmem/?p=10218

Derek 30-03-2012 15:06

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35407231)
I heard him say catagorically that his expenses were zero pounds.

Zero pounds but several thousand rials... :D

TheDaddy 30-03-2012 15:17

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35407275)
They Work For You - George Galloway

Expenses are at the bottom of the webpage - according to this, he claimed

2008-09 £130,340
2007-08 £136,390
2006-07 £107,610
2005-06 £107,030
2004-05 £145,072
2003-04 £105,973
2002-03 £126,759
2001-02 £84,773

That totals up to approx. £940,000, which is a bit more than "zero pounds"....

And in the "Members Interests" section, it shows he earns approx 200k per annum on his speaking and media engagements.

http://www.theyworkforyou.com/regmem/?p=10218

That's interesting wonder why he told such a blatantly provable lie on tv IIRC he was laying into some MP about duck ponds and he responded with something like I can't wait to see your expenses, that's when he said they were zero pounds.

Perhaps I being thick again

My expenses are zero. I have no second home, I have never bought a bean from the "John Lewis List", which I didn't know existed and I don't claim a penny in travel expenses.

http://blogs.dailyrecord.co.uk/cgi-b...cludeBlogs=162

Damien 30-03-2012 15:33

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35407288)
That's interesting wonder why he told such a blatantly provable lie on tv IIRC he was laying into some MP about duck ponds and he responded with something like I can't wait to see your expenses, that's when he said they were zero pounds.

Perhaps I being thick again

My expenses are zero. I have no second home, I have never bought a bean from the "John Lewis List", which I didn't know existed and I don't claim a penny in travel expenses.

http://blogs.dailyrecord.co.uk/cgi-b...cludeBlogs=162

Not sure why he said even that really. The link I provided show taxi fares and stuff and he does claim some expenses....

fatmat8 30-03-2012 15:40

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i feel that george is the last piece of the jigsaw puzzle !

nomadking 30-03-2012 15:43

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As a London MP, he would not have been eligible for 2nd home costs, so his answer was misleading.

danielf 30-03-2012 15:43

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35407299)
Not sure why he said even that really. The link I provided show taxi fares and stuff and he does claim some expenses....

He's only claimed travel up to the year 2005/2006 (according to the link posted by Hugh). All other expenses (except London costs) are office/staffing costs, which are not quite at the level of moat clearing and duck houses.

Hugh 30-03-2012 15:57

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However, that does not equate to
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My expenses are zero

danielf 30-03-2012 16:15

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35407324)
However, that does not equate to

True.

TheDaddy 30-03-2012 16:36

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35407324)
However, that does not equate to

In MP speak it kind of does, his expenses were zero it was his office that ran them up, to save from misleading people it would have been much better imo if he'd said his personal expenses were zero but then that doesn't quite have the same ring to it. This is exactly the sort of thing that turns people of politics, half truths and artful dodging.

Hugh 30-03-2012 16:38

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Totally agree.

martyh 30-03-2012 17:10

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The man is a odious little treacherous creep who has only won because the electorate didn't have a viable option .Hopefully any decisions and actions he takes will be limited to Bradford and not be felt anywhere past those borders

peanut 30-03-2012 18:39

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35407366)
The man is a odious little treacherous creep who has only won because the electorate didn't have a viable option .Hopefully any decisions and actions he takes will be limited to Bradford and not be felt anywhere past those borders

Why, could he do any worse than those already in?

I hope it is a start of things to come. It doesn't matter what I think of George, but that's the point, they'd rather vote him in over the other options, and that says it all. To me 'personally' I think it's great.

Watching Harman etc squirm on Daybreak was excellent I must admit. I haven't seen or heard from any Tories over it though. (I haven't looked around much though I must admit).

martyh 30-03-2012 18:55

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Originally Posted by peanut (Post 35407404)
Why, could he do any worse than those already in?

I hope it is a start of things to come. It doesn't matter what I think of George, but that's the point, they'd rather vote him in over the other options, and that says it all. To me 'personally' I think it's great.

Watching Harman etc squirm on Daybreak was excellent I must admit. I haven't seen or heard from any Tories over it though. (I haven't looked around much though I must admit).


I understand what you are saying and fully agree that the voters made a statement .But don't you think that it is testament to how,and i'm having trouble thinking of the right word here, so i'll just say pathetic British politics have become to require this type of voting because they are so disolusioned with mainstream parties ,especially the ones actually in power.

peanut 30-03-2012 18:59

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35407420)
I understand what you are saying and fully agree that the voters made a statement .But don't you think that it is testament to how,and i'm having trouble thinking of the right word here, so i'll just say pathetic British politics have become to require this type of voting because they are so disolusioned with mainstream parties ,especially the ones actually in power.

I suppose a lot depends on how badly you've been affected by those already in power. I couldn't careless about the big picture as I can't afford to, hence I said 'personally'.

When things can't get any worse, you tend to hope for chaos, afterall you can only hope for some good to come out of it in the end. As it stands, nothing good is happening.

Maggy 30-03-2012 19:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35407420)
I understand what you are saying and fully agree that the voters made a statement .But don't you think that it is testament to how,and i'm having trouble thinking of the right word here, so i'll just say pathetic British politics have become to require this type of voting because they are so disolusioned with mainstream parties ,especially the ones actually in power.

Well we were offered a different system but voted against it..

martyh 30-03-2012 20:25

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35407460)
Well we were offered a different system but voted against it..

I don't think it's the system it's the quality of politicians ,unless the system is stopping decent ones getting power

Maggy 30-03-2012 20:36

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35407476)
I don't think it's the system it's the quality of politicians ,unless the system is stopping decent ones getting power

We get the politicians we do because we insist on voting along party lines.If we could honestly give up dogma(and I mean from all political sides)and vote for a person's achievements and experience alone we might just start to get the government we need.

Failing that maybe a system where we get as many different 'flavours' or opinions into government instead of just two or three will serve us better.After all however much I like cheese and onion,plain flavour or BBQ flavour crisps it is nice to have a wider choice.;)

rogerdraig 30-03-2012 22:19

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after that result i am betting he wished he run for mayor

mertle 31-03-2012 09:32

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Robert Retford who UK promoting sundance festival.

But he said something which he said about american politics how terrible it is but it strikes so much accord with british politics too.

He Politics said its all about winning, its all about the ego of winning what people will say and do to win.

He absolute brilliant

Listen to it yourself its about american politics but hell he talking about uk politics too. It goes off to his career abit but its quite relevent thing to compare our polititians following the american style of just giving image to get in office.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-17547071

It will interesting that George Galloway is certainly did this to get to win. Others out there done the exact same to get power.

Arthurgray50@blu 31-03-2012 11:11

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I think that the bunch of idiots are the people that voted for the party that are in power at the moment.

Sometimes l wake up in the morning thinking that we are still living in the fifities, no money to pay bills.

denphone 31-03-2012 11:20

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35407599)
I think that the bunch of idiots are the people that voted for the party that are in power at the moment.

Sometimes l wake up in the morning thinking that we are still living in the fifities, no money to pay bills.

And l wake up every morning expecting one of these from you.:rant::rant:

Derek 31-03-2012 12:09

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...-election.html

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George Galloway celebrates 'Blackburn triumph' on Twitter after winning West Bradford by-election
Good start by forgetting where he is the MP for, then trying to blame his twitter being hacked. Still being useless and a shameless liar is in the required qualifications for an MP.

Would it not have been easier to admit a sleepless night of celebrations and excitement plus over zealous auto correct caused the slip rather than trying to blame a hacker and deny ever making a mistake.

Hugh 31-03-2012 12:23

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Another interesting point in that article...
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One leaflet circulating Bradford in the days leading up to the election, berated rival Labour candidate Imran Hussain: “God KNOWS who is a Muslim. And he KNOWS who is not,” it said. “Let me point out to all the Muslim brothers and sisters what I stand for. I, George Galloway, do not drink alcohol and never have.”

Mr Galloway denies it came from him.

Chris 31-03-2012 12:26

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I thought this was entertaining too:

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He told constituents after his win: “All praise to Allah! By the Grace of God we have won the most sensational victory in British political history. There is a tidal wave waiting to break all over the country, not just in Bradford.”

Maggy 31-03-2012 13:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35407557)
Well I guess by that analagy, Galloway is the Marmite of politics.:D

You leave Marmite out of it..There is to be no comparison with Galloway.:p:

---------- Post added at 14:10 ---------- Previous post was at 14:09 ----------

Ah well Bradford will rue the day.

ToxinUK 31-03-2012 13:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35407018)
Given the choice of George, Dave, Nick or Ed, George gets my vote every time, say what you want about him (and many have tried and failed to including the US senate and lots of newspapers) but he stands up for what he believes in, those other plastic PR mens wet dream would sell their own grannys for a sniff of power.

Does he believe in de-evolution for Scotland and if so, why the hell is he taking control of an English constituency? ;)

papa smurf 31-03-2012 14:03

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35407022)
I would never vote for a man who turns my stomach the way he does.He is a oily car salesman,a reptile and a skunk and I'd never give him the time of day let alone my vote.

I'd trust every idiot in the main stream parties before him every time because they are just idiots compared to him.

i like your style :tu::clap:

Taf 31-03-2012 14:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35407622)
I thought this was entertaining too:

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He told constituents after his win: “All praise to Allah! By the Grace of God we have won the most sensational victory in British political history. There is a tidal wave waiting to break all over the country, not just in Bradford.”
Total loony pandering to superstitious lunatics, and as they multiply in numbers they will no doubt use their votes to force us to change to their ways, little by little. Our own democratic system used against us.

slowcoach 31-03-2012 15:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35407650)
Total loony pandering to superstitious lunatics, and as they multiply in numbers they will no doubt use their votes to force us to change to their ways, little by little. Our own democratic system used against us.

I think it's called The Awakening. ;)

Hugh 31-03-2012 16:05

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I would have thought the "New World Order" would be preventing that......

slowcoach 31-03-2012 23:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35407699)
I would have thought the "New World Order" would be preventing that......

They obviously had their eyes off the ball as they were rubbing their hands at the thought of this LINK. There again, it is April 1st so it could just be a BBC prank. :dozey:

Hugh 01-04-2012 02:05

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From your link...

Quote:

"Communications data includes time, duration and dialling numbers of a phone call, or an email address.

"It does not include the content of any phone call or email and it is not the intention of Government to make changes to the existing legal basis for the interception of communications."
the processing power does not exist to analyse (real time) all communications that are happening, be that voice comms, twitter, Facebook, email, etc...

Taf 01-04-2012 13:41

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Blackburn?

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/04/70.jpg

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...n-triumph.html

Peter_ 01-04-2012 13:55

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As I said earlier Galloway is a media whore and his inability to remember which by election he has won speaks volumes about the type of idiot the people of Bradford have elected, they deserve all they will get from this idiotic man.

A picture speaks a thousand words as per below.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/04/69.jpg

martyh 01-04-2012 14:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_ (Post 35407980)
As I said earlier Galloway is a media whore and his inability to remember which by election he has won speaks volumes about the type of idiot the people of Bradford have elected, they deserve all they will get from this idiotic man.

A picture speaks a thousand words as per below.

Thank you for that reminder :rolleyes:,i spent years trying to get that image out of my head .......oh well back to therapy :(

Damien 01-04-2012 16:23

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Galloway is trying to claim that his Twitter was hacked, no one is really buying that. He really is a bit of a imbecile.

http://twitter.com/#!/georgegalloway...35241419796481

Quote:

Everyone please join me tomorrow for the victory rally at Infirmary Fields,Manningham,Bradford at 5pm. #Bradfordwest
Anyone going to his victory rally?

slowcoach 01-04-2012 16:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35407804)
the processing power does not exist to analyse (real time) all communications that are happening, be that voice comms, twitter, Facebook, email, etc...

Even if that is true you can bet it is all recorded, just in case. ;)
What with CCVT and Number Plate Recognition they obviously want to know where we are and what we are getting up to, we are even recorded getting on and off the bus, train and all the other forms of public transport, makes me think that the ruling classes are living in total fear because they sure as hell aren't installing all this expensive equipment for my safety or peace of mind.

Peter_ 01-04-2012 17:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35408060)


Anyone going to his victory rally?

Is the a grassy knoll nearby.:D

Nidge41 03-04-2012 20:35

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Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35407003)
Proof that voters in large chunks of the land are idiots. :shocked:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17549388

Didn't he do the same in Bethnal Green? He targeted the Muslim communities and promised them the world when in essence he was using them to feather his own bed.

He's doing the same in Bradford.

Ramrod 03-04-2012 21:18

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Has this been posted here yet? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJ1bmyN-k68 :D

TheDaddy 12-04-2012 01:57

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Originally Posted by ToxinUK (Post 35407637)
Does he believe in de-evolution for Scotland and if so, why the hell is he taking control of an English constituency? ;)

Sorry for the late reply had loads on, not really certain as I don't listen to his shows often but IIRC he's not a fan of Scottish independence whether that includes devolution :shrug:

Alan Fry 20-04-2012 13:19

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Lets put it this way, while George Galloway is of the Far left he and his party "Respect" have become nothing but a joke and sadly so has the Far Left in general, the main issue that has caused this is after 9/11 they did a deal with the devil, they allied themselfs against the War on Terror and sided with Islamists (who would normally consider them as unislamic), since then they have complained about Iraq and Afganistan etc, along with a Anti-Israel bias!

But its not just that, George Galloway himself is a publicty seeker and a Bad MP, he and his party represent the worst of the left, if I was talking to some young (and old) lefties, I would tell them to look away from idiots like George Galloway and more to Nick Cohen, Christopher Hitchens and Peter Tatchell

(As for Ken Livingstone, while he also has too close links with Islamists, at least he has done good thnigs for London)

Sirius 20-04-2012 14:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35416810)
Lets put it this way, while George Galloway is of the Far left he and his party "Respect" have become nothing but a joke and sadly so has the Far Left in general,

Reminds me of another fantasied ;)

Alan Fry 20-04-2012 14:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35416845)
Reminds me of another fantasied ;)

If you thinking of me, let me tell you this, I am ashamed of people like him (most of the far left by the way) from associating themselfs with the left :mad: :td:

Hugh 20-04-2012 16:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35416810)
Lets put it this way, while George Galloway is of the Far left he and his party "Respect" have become nothing but a joke and sadly so has the Far Left in general, the main issue that has caused this is after 9/11 they did a deal with the devil, they allied themselfs against the War on Terror and sided with Islamists (who would normally consider them as unislamic), since then they have complained about Iraq and Afganistan etc, along with a Anti-Israel bias!

But its not just that, George Galloway himself is a publicty seeker and a Bad MP, he and his party represent the worst of the left, if I was talking to some young (and old) lefties, I would tell them to look away from idiots like George Galloway and more to Nick Cohen, Christopher Hitchens and Peter Tatchell

(As for Ken Livingstone, while he also has too close links with Islamists, at least he has done good thnigs for London)

A) Christopher Hitchens is dead
B) You may find this interview with Chris Hitchens of interest....;)
Quote:

I forget whether I said I was an ex-socialist, or recovering Marxist, or whatever, but that would have been provisional or stylistic. The thing I’ve often tried to point out to people from the early days of the Thatcher revolution in Britain was that the political consensus had been broken, and from the right. The revolutionary, radical forces in British life were being led by the conservatives. That was something that almost nobody, with the very slight exception of myself, had foreseen.

I’d realized in 1979, the year she won, that though I was a member of the Labour Party, I wasn’t going to vote for it. I couldn’t bring myself to vote conservative. That’s purely visceral. It was nothing to do with my mind, really. I just couldn’t physically do it. I’ll never get over that, but that’s my private problem.

But I did realize that by subtracting my vote from the Labour Party, I was effectively voting for Thatcher to win. That’s how I discovered that that’s what I secretly hoped would happen. And I’m very glad I did. I wouldn’t have been able to say the same about Reagan, I must say. But I don’t think he had her intellectual or moral courage.

Damien 20-04-2012 19:34

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Christopher Hitchens is in no way comparable to Galloway.

He was always ideologically consistant and he didn't care if his beliefs were being advocated by the left or the right, he backed either. This is why he seemed to switch positions, not because he changed his mind but because the landscape changed and his wasn't stubbornly attached to one party.

Galloway is the opposite. He takes his positions based on solely being a contrarian. He lectures all the time about people's rights yet when it comes to the Falklands he is suddenly against self-determination, he defends undemocratic regimes because they are based in the middle east and hate the West. He is a ideological coward. Utterly unfit to be mentioned in the same group as people like Hitchens.

They hated each other by the way.

Hugh 20-04-2012 19:36

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Agreed - but he doesn't hold the views that Alan seems to think he does...

Osem 20-04-2012 20:37

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35417005)
Agreed - but he doesn't hold the views that Alan seems to think he does...

Alan talking twaddle again? Surely not lol.

Having listened to many of his radio shows in recent years, he certainly likes to have the last word and enjoys shouting others down at every opportunity. He's never struck me as being someone remotely interested in anyone else's point of view unless it's in line with his own.


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