BBC Red Button - will it arrive before the Olympics?
 

What do we reckon? If Virgin/BBC fail to bring this to Tivo in time for the Olympics it will deny Tivo viewers the majority of BBC Olympic coverage.

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The BBC red button will arrive before the olympics and will be rolled out in April with the 24 streams for the games coming quickly afterwards.

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I trust Denphone to have the correct answer.
However I am off to the States when it is on. So I really don`t care. Yes I planned it as such.

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Sky to launch 48 new channels for the Olympics on their EPG (which can be recorded too)

http://corporate.sky.com/media/press...mpics_channels

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I wonder if VM will follow suit for non TiVo customers.:)

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:LOL:

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Cant see it,it will be another way of pushing tivo on current customers who aint got it

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Or another way of pushing customers over to SKY. As a boxing fan I would like to be able to record all of the boxing events. At the moment it only looks like SKY can guarantee this.

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As stated in the title of the PR, it's actually 24; but in both SD and HD, the same as VM then :) So, nice Sky spin there, paul :rolleyes:

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Yes, 24 streams of each channel in both HD and SD = 48 channels that will appear on the EPG. No spin, just facts. Or do VM not include all their +1 channels when giving a total channel count ;)

Which all can be recorded, unlike the VM TiVo App which is all VM have announced who have so far left out their non-TiVo userbase.

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Virgin must offer the exact same service to all of it's customers, the same as SKY. Virgin can't just offer these streams to TiVo customers.

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Can the other boxes have all those streams? Just asking as not technical chap.... thanks folks.....

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Do you mean V+ and VHD? I'd be interested to know that too. Do Virgin have the capacity to launch 24 HD channels and 24 SD channels within the next 3 months, outwith a TiVo app?

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The PR states 24. It was you that posted 48. It's not; it's 24.

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Seeing the BBC have released info today, and SKY have made a press release I'd imagine Virgin will follow suit either today or tomorrow with a statement to clarify their position.

Key questions to I'd like to see Virgin clarify to their customers in a statement, based on SKY’s press release:

SKY Say: “More than 10 million Sky homes will be able to watch the 2012 London Olympics through two dozen brand new BBC channels”

To Virgin: Will you be making all of these new channels available to your 4 million TV customers, without upgrading to TiVo?

SKY Say: “Sky homes will be able to view the channels via the Sky EPG, Sky+ homes will be able to record the coverage to watch at a time that suits them”

To Virgin: Will Virgin customers with V+ or TiVO be able to record the coverage?

SKY Say: “As with the rest of the HD channels on the Sky platform, the new channels will be broadcast in 1080i and in wide-screen to enhance the viewing experience.”

To Virgin: Will your HD coverage be broadcast in 1080i?

SKY Say: “The Sky+ Remote Record option also allows customers to set their Sky+ or Sky+HD box to record from mobile devices or the web.”
To Virgin: Will TiVo customers be able to remote record?
SKY Say: “The channels are free-to-air and available to any Sky home, and do not require a subscription.
To Virgin: If the channels do launch separately from TivO, will customers on the M package be able to access the channels?

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"The service will also be available through the free-to-air platform Freesat and to Virgin Media customers who have a TiVo set-top box. More announcements from other providers are expected soon"
From the Guardian I stand corrected

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I suggest you read it again Carl, 48 Channels is mentioned twice in the PR.

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No you are right as this is what it says.:)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012...12-24-channels

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Headline: "Watch every second of the BBC’s 2012 Olympics coverage on Sky with the help of 24 brand new channels, dedicated to the London Games".

Yes, a total of 48 because each one is in both SD and HD.

Just wanting to clarify that Sky are not getting any more channels than VM.

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Theres more to the PR than the headline, see my edited post incase you have not actually read the article.

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Which is what I said in my first post :rolleyes:

48 new channels will be launched on their EPG

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So that`s 24 channels broadcasting in HD & SD giving 48 channels on the EPG.
Do we agree :confused: :Peaceman:

"Lies, damn lies, & statistics" - or "spin" in today`s terms both fit the bill in this case I think.

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Yes :D

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Why must it?, and yes it can.

VM always made it clear, did they not, that only Tivo customers will have access to all the Olympic games streams. The Guardian article underlines this. It is my guess that those who are not prepared to pay for Tivo will have what Freeviewers will have - BBC1, BBC3 and the two Red Button streams.

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Right, clever by Sky. They are going to show the streams as individual channels therefore allowing them to be recorded. Having a squizz at all the info regarding TIVO i couldn't see if there will be an ability to record off our Red Button App... can someone clarify.

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As far as l know there is no ability to record off our Red Button App on Tivo.:)

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Because their 3,500,000 non-TiVo customers, who also pay a TV license fee to the BBC will expect they do. If they don't listen to their customers, and what their customers want, then there is a serious problem.

VM did always make it clear that only TiVo customers will have access to all Olympic streams. This however was announced back in December prior to any suggestion other TV platforms would be launching the streams as stand alone channels, available for free to all their customers. Oh and recordable too.

I've got TiVo and V+ in my bedroom. I want to be able to record events that I can't watch live and I don't want to be restricted to where I watch them in my house.

I'm yet to see any posts in this forum today to suggest the arrangement Virgin has with the BBC for the Olympics via TiVo is any anyway better than what Freesat and SKY are delivering. Can anyone truthfully say what has been announced today paints Virgins plans in a good light?

Why can't Virgin deliver what their customers deserve? Why are they only catering to 12% of their TV customer base? Virgin are hiding BBC content behind a paywall by insisting only TiVo customers can get access.

Gold medal goes to SKY, as per usual. Virgin end up outside the medals wondering what went wrong taking flack from their own customers, as per usual.

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As l said the other day whoevers devises Virgin's ongoing strategy needs locking up and the keys thrown away because ever since the price rises were announced they have stumbled from one incompetent own goal to another and while they do that Sky sail away to the other side of the world laughing their heads off while Virgin are still stuck in dry dock. :td::(

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That was when the BBC made it clear that the streams would only be made available online or via internet 'connected' devices such as TiVo so not possible on non-Tivo boxes. This is no longer the case so no reason to believe it will still be restricted to TiVo.
The Guardian is simply referencing older, possibly outdated, info. The BBC announced only today that it will now make its twenty-four live Olympic streams available to cable and satellite providers, on a non-exclusive basis.

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I have to agree completely.:(

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I think you will find that it's the BBC cuts that made this happen, which you have in no small part James Murdoch to thank with his anti BBC lobbing campaign. He has other things on his mind right now, the slimball.

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That's only true if you don't know what's coming down the pipe.

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Well at present the pipe seems pretty blocked up and l am not sure when someone is going to come round to unblock it to reveal some seams of gold.:)

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That is all the data that the Murdoch's are shoving down the pan:erm:

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Some good points.

I think I'll stop ranting and allow time for events to unfold. I'm sure Virgin will come good on this. I just can't see how M+, L and XL customers without TiVo, who pay substantial monthly subscriptions to Virgin, would be expected to be happy receiving the same coverage that's being served up on Freeview free of charge.

The following quote from the BBC website appears promising:

"Mr Mosey said the BBC had agreed with Sky and Freesat to show the live streams across 24 channels, with more announcements from other providers expected soon."

However further down in the article:

"However Mr Mosey added: "Not every platform will be able to accommodate such a huge technical offer, which amounts to 48 channels in total if you count 24 SD (Standard Definition) plus 24 HD."

Lets hope he is referring to platforms such as BT Vision etc...

I'm picturing SKY's summer add campaign already. The only place to watch Euro 2012, London 2012 and F1 in HD this summer. Take our HD package this summer and for a limited amount of time enjoy up to 84 HD channels!

I thought it was Virgin who were gunning for between 80 to 90 HD channels. I think, if you route around the internet, SKY will become the worlds biggest provider of linear HD channels this summer.

Let's hope that Usain Bolt can help Virgin "Keep Up" with SKY in terms of Olympic HD channels.

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UPDATE: We've now heard from Virgin Media which has confirmed it will be offering all of its TiVo subscribers the 24 live HD streams through the new BBC Sport application we first wrote about at the end of last year. The app will be accessible through the proprietary BBC/TiVo Red Button service, and will aggregate all of the content so that it's selectable from the one place.

Found here http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/4514...24-hd-channels

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that's as we thought.

Does anyone know how many streams they will make available to those who will not pay extra for the Tivo box? As I said earlier, my best guess is the two streams which will be available to those with Freeview, and nothing more as they'll use this as another way to try to persuade people to get Tivo.

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What will now be availale for V box customers hasn't yet been announced

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Thank you for that Ben.

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Incidentally, I wonder what Smallworld Cable will end up doing - ie will these 24 streams be available to Smallworld subscribers?

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That's a massive slap in the face to 3,500,000 non-TiVo Virgin customers. So to sum it up then, as we stand just now:

All streams are free to all of SKY's 10,000,000 customers. Even people with an old dish without a subscription will get access.

All streams are free to Freesat's 2,000,000 customers.

Freeview will be offering the exact same content as Virgin customers who are on M+, L and XL without TiVo however Virgin customers, as we stand just now, will be paying a subscription to access the material where as Freeview is completely free to view.

Virgin customers who want to access all the streams, as we stand just now, will need at least the M+ package with TiVo costing £18.00 per month without the ability to record the streams. All streams will be made available to just 450,000 of Virgins television subscribers.

How can Virgin spin this to look like a good deal. The Olympics are huge, especially when they are hosted within our country, and have attracted some of the biggest TV audiences of all time.

Why would people think of joining Virgin, just for full access to the games when they can get it for free elsewhere. Even current Virgin customers, without TiVo, who are out of contract must surely see the value of going elsewhere for their Olympic fix.

For me Virgin are trying to push TiVo onto their customers way too hard.

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You are making assumptions. There has been NO confirmation as to what V box customers will or will not get.

How about waiting for facts?

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That would be interesting. If V box and V+ box customers get all 24 streams as linear channels then what really is the point and value of the app launching on TiVo? Surely TiVo customers would much rather all 24 linear channels launch on their platform too.

I've got TiVo and V+ and would much rather have linear channels on both.

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For instance

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/8b87379a-7...#axzz1r0Vwuykj

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But the problems is Ben that Virgin instead of leading always seem to be a hundred yards behind with regards to announcements and they need to get their fingers out and lead the race instead of trailing with the stragglers all the time.:)

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Except by the looks of the FT announcement, Sky are coughing up for the BBC to provide the streams - because that's the only way to get them to Sky's customers

Up till now, the BBC have been fairly clear that the streams would be IPTV based only, so I reckon that is what Virgin have been preparing

So they have to be sure of what they can do with the streams before they can announce anything

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Sorry I don't beleive I am making assumptions. My views and opinions were based on the information available in the link posted by PK1 and other sources today such as BBC News and SKY's website. I also used the term "as we stand just now" to portray that the post was based on the info currently available in the public domain.

I think my post is a fair assessment of how things currently look, until Virgin confirm to their non-TiVo customers otherwise.

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Not a chance. Wild speculation is so much easier and quicker :)

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I know I would.

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l will second that prof.

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Who really gives a damn about who announces what first. As long as it happens they can announce it the day before, for all I care.

That said, of course an early announcement might stop some people getting Freesat in. But perhaps there's a good reason for not announcing right now. Like the deal isn't finalised or something. Of course, if they did announce now and then couldn't make the deal (or whatever) you'd soon be berating them for not delivering on promises. So they can't keep you happy either way, can they?!

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That's the issue which keeps coming up time and time again. VM always drags its heals when it comes to linear TV rather than leading the way and this is another excellent example of this.

They should understand that not everyone wants Tivo (regardless of the price) or on demand. Many people just like to sit in front of their TV and select a programme of interest by scrolling up and down the channels.

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That's purely speculation. I know I said that in a previous posting but I was merely speculating as to what non Tivo customers might get.

I do agree that VM are trying overly to persuade their customers to get Tivo, and pay the costs which come with it, which shouldn't come as a massive surprise. They will see one way of doing this is to provide content which is only available if you have Tivo, or to put it another way, deprive content to those who will not pay for Tivo. The 24-stream Olympics coverage could well be the first major example of this. It's very possible that in the near future VM may start to provide new on demand content and future new linear channels only to Tivo customers and/or may start to remove existing channels and on demand content for those who haven't upgraded to Tivo. All speculation I know but remember that the chief executive did suggest that he wants every single customer to have Tivo in a few years time so they've got to find ways to make this happen.

It's worth recalling how Sky managed to get its entire customer base to scrap analogue and get digital in just a few short years. They did two things. One was to make it almost free to upgrade (IIRC you just paid for installation) and the other was to slowly run down the analogue service by removing channels from Sky analogue a few at a time. It worked for Sky so why wouldn't it work for VM regarding getting everyone using Tivo?

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Its always very nice to read your eloquent posts carl but the trouble with Virgin is their communication is rubbish and making promises is all very easy but it is the deliverance of those promises that customers want and not the coming soon words in which we have grown accustomed to.:)

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Very true. The only difference will be Virgin have more competition now than SKY had back in the analogue days. What will current non-TiVo Virgin customers find more appealing as virgin try to squeeze them onto TiVo? A new PVR from Virgin or an ever growing HD and SD channel line-up from SKY including innovative ways to watch programming at home and on the go. You've also got YouView just around the corner and Freesat due to offer Iplayer, ITV Player, 4 OD and 5 On Demand.

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Agreed. ipad app Lovefilm/netflix app, multiroom streaming and now this. They should have realised how important an issue this was and been prepared to anounce full plans on the same day as the BBC; Sky obviously knew the importance of this.

And if VM don't produce recordable streams when Sky and Freesat do, then VM have seriously lost the plot.

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To get back on topic "BBC Red Button - will it arrive before the Olympics?" I've got to say it needs to be a massive yes on the back of the announcement from SKY and Freesat. Imagine if the BBC Red Button doesn't launch in time.

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Which completely ignores the second paragraph you quoted.

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Just a thought, If this is going to be via the BBC red button & as I read it it will be.
Why would it not work on The V+ red BBC button ? which shows the things I want added to the mythical TiVo BBC red button?

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BBC Red Button on TiVo will be able to access internet streams the same way the other video apps on TiVo do in addition to the hidden linear channels.

BBC Red Button on the V box can only access VoD or linear channels, so Virgin have specifically add them for it to work

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So, as common sense suggests, it is merely technical limitations - and not a conspiracy to get everyone on a Tivo - as to why this stuff can't be done on the older boxes. Who'da thunk it? (Except maybe those with common sense and not something against VM!)

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Can some please explain ( This is NOT a dig) the difference between the multi-screen that my V+ has on the BBC red button ( think Wimbledon as a case in point or the Red zone from BBC Wales Sport ) & the screens to be offered for the Olympics?

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Mainly there will be a lot more of them

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Ok that I understand, are you saying Virgins kit (ie V+) cannot cope with it. I am guessing that other sources do not have the problem ? :(

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They can cope - but only if Virgin add the other screens as actual channels on the platform which also needs to cope

For TiVo the app just needs to talk to a BBC server somewhere

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Plus BBC would not have allowed withholding of its service if the only reason for the withholding was the subscription level paid by the VM customer!

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Sky are prepared to go the extra mile for all their customers to watch all the streams from the BBC. I do hope that VM will see that it would be in their interest to do the same. From the many discussions on here I have been told that there is plenty of bandwidth available on the VM network to enable them to do it. Lets wait and see.

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Masters starts tomorrow. Sky have full 4 day coverage. BBC starts on Sat but the Red button has Amen Corner. Dont have Sky sports, have Tivo, don't have Red Button = very poor from Virgin Media.

Still underwhelmed with my Tivo Service.

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Yes its absolutely pathetic that we still won't have The Masters Sky red button coverage on our boxes.:td:

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Sorry Ben I am not following this.
During the Tennis(and for that matter pro 12 rugby) the BBC red button on Freeview & my V+ offers a choice of screens. Are you saying ( no offense) that this is different. I must add here that this is more curiosity than any interest in the Olympics. As I intend to be out of the country for the whole time it is on !! :D

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Most BBC Red Button events have no more than 4 alternative screens, so Virgin will have the option of these already to go whenever they are required. For the Olympics this is going to be up to 24 screens, which means Virgin have to plan and add extra screens that the V boxes can recieve.

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Thank you, if I am honest I have to say that I thought the screens were the BBC`s choice so to speak, that`s because freeview & V+ always seemed to match. just wish I could get Red button on S4C ( As SKY have that as well !!):)

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Media boys blog has suggetsed VM haven't actually struck a deal for all the 24/48 streams??? This can't be right, i thought it was a done deal.

PLUS can anyone i.e SPIDERPLANT give us a clue as to IF Virgin Media will give us the opportunity of recording the streams :)

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At the risk of repeating myself ( whom am I kidding - do I care:D)
Track & record :dozey:

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It will be a done deal for TiVo - because that's the original and only way how the BBC were going to do it

Because Sky have stumped up the cash the BBC will now also run them as broadcast streams on satellite - which as the BBC can't do exclusive deals Virgin should then also have an option to carry them

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Will Broadcast did say:

http://mediaboyblog.blogspot.co.uk/2...-olympics.html

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Thanks Ben. I presume, though, as VM themselves (or as was talked about on here) visualised the Olympic streams to be more App orientated rather than red button streamed or as individually channel streamed it will still be an App application rather than what Sky is doing?!??!?!

The trouble is now Sky viewers can record individual "streams" VM viewers will want to do the same. As i can't see VM adding 24/48 new channels how hard would it be to write software which allows us to record each Olympic App stream?

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It wasn't VM, it was the BBC. Their whole original plan was that the streams were to be on connected devices only i.e. delivered over broadband, not linear channels.

Considering the channel announcement is new, we don't yet know what VM will do

As for writing an app. The recording tuners on TiVo aren't designed to pick up video via the broadband connection as far as I know, because there is no need. So they can't see the output, wouldn't have a channel to tune to or have EPG timings

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Thanks again Ben. I hope now Sky have decided on individual channels, VM will follow suit... i have my doubts though.

As for VM's deal, I saw this.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/media/ne...satellite.html

Virgin Media has already announced that it will offer all the BBC's 24 live streams via its TiVo converged television service, as part of a deal agreed with the corporation in December last year.

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Surely Virgin can't be happy with these developments. When the deal was announced back in December for a Tivo app to cover all Olympic streams it looked like the content and footage would be exclusive to Virgin customers with TiVo, and very much looked like a major coup for Virgin.

If Virgin end up offering all the streams as linear channels to their customers, regardless of what Virgin TV box they have, won't this cost Virgin even more money and greatly devalue the TiVo app they are currently working on?

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But Chad how can the BBC make content exclusive ? And why would they want to their are far more viewers on satellite than there are on cable.

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I thought all of the streams would be exclusive to TV customers via TiVO. I was of the impression whilst you could watch all of the BBC's footage online, TiVo would be the only way to access all the content via a TV subscription.

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As far as I know they will also be available via any connected TV via a BBC app. So for instance my Samsung TV would likely be able to access them if the BBC do an app for it

I don't think there was any question of them being exclusive, but TiVo is only paid-TV STBs that can get them (and probably one of few in total)

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The BBC is doing the app, not Virgin Media, and I'd expect it have more than just the extra streams in it

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What about Youview when it launches; I would have thought that would have the content via apps. I saw some reference in a post to a May launch but don't know how true it is.

VM need to get recordable linear channels. People are fed up with Sky beating them hands down for TV channels and to pass up on these extra channels would be an own goal, irrespective of the fact that V+ users won't get them all unless they are linear channels.

I hope VM aren't using this to drive up Tivo demand, because if they are, they deserve to get defectors to Sky or Freesat. And even with Tivo, as it currently stands, there is no way to record the events when people are at work.

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http://www.youview.com/contact/

Nothing has been announced one way or the other as to what will be happening on Virgin, so again, how about we wait for facts?

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I have to agree with you.
As far as youview is concerned it was supposed to launch early this year ,but it has gone quiet. Even if it does launch it does not give much time for the equipment to get to market in time for the Olympics.

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But this is the problem Ben; we're always waiting. Sky anounced yesterday; why are we still waiting for VM to announce SD and HD linear channels?

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Because maybe, just maybe, they don't want to announce anything until it's all confirm what it will be?

There still 4 MONTHS until the Olympics starts, in case anyone had forgotten.

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and one DAY since the Sky announcement

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No we have not forgotten but it always seems to be the case of the sloth following the cheetah.:)

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:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead: :banghead::banghead:

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I appreciate what you're saying Ben, It just gets a tad annoying that Sky seem to always get the jump on these sorts of announcements.

Anyway I would like, if they could, any VM employee who reads these forums to express the (i think common) view from this forum to VM that we would like the Olympic threads to be linear as well as App based so we can record them. Ta :)

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Are Sky more clever than VM then? They already know what they will do and have anounced it.

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You will get a sore head Ben if you keep doing that.;)

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Because they are the ones PAYING for the satellite streams, so of course they know.

Just as Virgin knew in December (and announced then too), that they would have access to the extra Olympic streams that the BBC had offered them for TiVo

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I think you've sumed it up nicely Ben; VM customers banging their heads out of frustration at VM being so slow with everything. That is what you meant, isn't it? :D

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No

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And VM weren't aware of this before the BBC anouncment yesterday? I find that hard to believe.

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Never said they didn't, as I also can't believe the BBC would withold details.

But Virgin aren't going to announce something just to fit in with Sky's schedule

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That had so much spin on it, I almost fell off when I read it :D

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Perhaps he has been getting training from some of those clever politicians.:)

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Seems the natives are getting restless again;)

Viva le revolution!!! :D

Just in general Virgin as usual getting the PR all wrong. Really don't like what they're doing just now:(

Re: BBC Red Button - will it arrive before the Olympics?
 

Virgins managements track record is poor, So much so that most people do not trust anything they say. Lets face it on delivering ( ie "basic" programmes not extras) Virgin are at least second best if not third - I go to Freeserve for red button services some times !!!!

Re: BBC Red Button - will it arrive before the Olympics?
 

Exactly, Ben.

Given that they're doing nothing until they have something to announce, I don't see a problem. If they announced something as "coming soon", would that please you any better? :rolleyes:

When was this survey done and what were the full results? (Link to source please.)