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On the news today it was stated the Army is doing rehersals after news that tankers drivers could go on strike.

I know members might not like it, l firmly believe that if tankers drivers go on strike, it will be the start of the downfall of this dreadful coalition.

The drivers of this country are fed up to the back teeth at the way this government keep on increasing fuel duty, each day we go into a garage the cost goes up, and 80 per cent of what we pay goes in tax to the treasury.

Evryone is now struggling to survive with the increase that this government are putting on everything, Mr Cameron and puppet Clegg must be living in cuckoo land if they think they can survive a public backlash.

All bills are going up - but wages are not.

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The tankers drivers are going on strike about wages, training and safety not the cost of fuel ????

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Arfur's world, never a dull moment ;) Obviously its the con'dems fault that they havnt been trained or taught safety and as for wages :shocked:

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Well threatening to strike over wages does NOT get my vote, all it will do is out up the fuel like it did back in 2000 (my local added 2p per litre.)

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From the sound of this Arthur you think that every time the fuel goes up it is the government putting up fuel duty ,it's not ,most of the rises are down to global oil prices which the government has very little control over .In fact the fuel duty on a litre of fuel has only gone up by 9.6p over the last 5 years (not including the planned rise in august)

http://racfoundation.wordpress.com/

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/at...1&d=1332707692

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Facts & Arthur a strange combination that does not compute :LOL:

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Exactly wages, This is why they want to go on strike, EVERYONE needs more money to live on, everything is going up apart from wages.

You need money to live on

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Arthur that is not how you posted it you said

So which is it Arthur wages or another Tory rant ???

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Isn't it Virgin Media's fault? :)

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Could be :LOL:

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No, it's Maggie's fault!

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Sorry that goes without saying :)

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True:)

At least my nephew will have something to do as he is just coming home fro his first tour in Afghanistan :)

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So their beef is with the oil companies then? The same oil companies that are able to raise prices quickly when the price of oil goes up, yet are mysteriously unable to lower them quickly when the prices drop?

If their beef is with the oil companies, why are the making the small business people who own a lot of the local petrol stations, and motorists suffer? What about other companies whose businesses may already be in a fragile state, and can't afford to have their vehicles out of action?

After all, it's not as if a lot of motorists have a choice. They either buy petrol, or they can't use their vehicle.

Are the Unions going to compensate all those who they inconvenience? Are they going to compensate those who lose their jobs as a result of this?

Unions do not operate for the greater good. At best, they operate for the good of their members. At worst, they operate as a tool for their leaders to argue with the government.

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Going on strike means they will have no money to live on.

Last I heard, companies dont pay strikers ....

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Tankers drivers are after better pay and conditions, But the army are rehersing to take over deliveries if the drivers go on strike.

What l am saying is that, if there is a strike than l am all for it, the tanker drivers are after more money, and so are the rest of us, remember you work to live, not live to work.

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So what will you do when you have no fuel to get to work ?. How will you pay your bills ?

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I'm sick of telling everyone..It's nothing to do with me..Stop saying it is.:(

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but their union might have a strike fund to compensate for loss of wages

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That will not pay the wages of those who cannot get to work because they have no fuel, who pays there wages i wonder

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They don't but if you are part of a union they give you some money (IIRC)

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i would crawl to work over broken glass if i had to [i love my job and a little thing like no fuel wont stop me ] got my bonus paid this morning can you tell:)

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I firmly believe that if every worker in this country, said enough is enough, they would decide that they do in France and have a national strike.

I cannot understand why members are saying that striking is not the answer, ok you can sit down and talk about everything, But the cost of everything today is increasing, but wages are not.

The Army have to do what Whitehall tells them, but if the Tanker driver go on strike, it will effect every working person in this country, there will be queues at garage's again, you will have irate drivers, delivery companies, all over the country in dire straights.

And all this caused by something that can be sorted out by the government.

This government makes more tax out of fuel than anything else (Unless l am proved wrong). The next time you get a utility bill in work it out, and l bet you will be paying more than normal.

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As far as i know one of the main reasons for the strike is because of H&S worries over using agency or contract drivers .Many feel that corners are being cut and safety is being compromised.If that is the case then i would have thought the drivers would not need to strike as they would have H&S law on their side ,which i would imagine are very strict where transporting highly volatile liquids is concerened...unless of course the H&S fears are unfounded and just a cover for a bit of union muscle flexing

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That's the problem. It's the start of a cycle..

Costs go up. People demand higher wages because the cost goes up. Companies have to find those extra wages somewhere, so their costs go up. They need to cover those costs, so their prices go up. Hence, the consumer ends up paying more, and demands higher wages.

I am not defending those companies who make record profits while cutting their staff wages (effectively), but we need to break that cycle. Unions, in my experience, do not want that cycle broken because while it would ultimately benefit their members, they just want their members paid more.

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with H&S the main reason for this action is it wise to put army trained drivers in charge ?

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They would be in safer hands, and the army handles high explosives, so petrol should be a piece of cake.

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I have no idea if it would be safer in army hands or not ,i would imagine the same regulations apply and would be adhered to .My point about H&S is that there should be no need to strike over this as the rules are hard and fast and breaches would leave companies and drivers open to prosecution .If drivers are saying that the rules need changing to make the jobe safer for them and the public then it should automatically be looked at by those in charge of H&S .If they are saying that contract drivers/agency drivers are breaching H&S then that needs sorting out at the highest level because they should be using the same H&S rules as all other drivers

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On the radio this morning (Wake Up to Money) they had a spokesperson for one of the companies and they said that typically wages were £45k per annum plus a final salary pension - certainly sounds good to me

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most of these high explosives do not self detonate and not many army drivers will transport them -i was eluding to average jo army driver the one who was passing his test no matter how bad a driver he was , and then dumped into a piece of ancient junk that should have been scraped in the 50s;)

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Well they've just voted for strike action

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17512729

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Can I remind members to either use the ignore feature or leave the thread if you don't like someone else's posting style. One post deleted, any more and infractions will ensue

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Well I ain't supporting them, they earn way to much cash as it is.

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when are they starting the strikes ?

45k & they wanna strike! Wish I was on 45k. I don't support this strike. Bunch 'o' militants.

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So, Red Len, the man who called for all-out strikes and general mayhem during the Olympics, has managed to work up a slim pretext into the possibility of nationwide industrial action.

Let every tanker driver understand: this has nowt to do with your terms and conditions or your health and safety, and everything to do with Len's grudge match with the Tory party.

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hear ,hear

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Thank you ... :)

Of course, the last lot of workers to be sold a lie so a hard-left Union baron could have a go at bringing down a Tory prime minister were the miners.

The New Statesman simpers that it would be a mistake to caricature Red Len as "another Arthur Scargill", which may be why just about every other media outlet has been doing exactly that. :D

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So did i ;)

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Yep just seen this. Money grabbing bar stools

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I am motorists but no doubt be slated for my views it seems everyone angry at this..

If they have real concerns about safety the short cuts goin on then I support it.

There been accidents we have remember only last years chevron.

http://www.channel4.com/news/two-kil...inery-in-wales

They do very very dangerous thankless job if they got issues on safety surely we should also be concerned. Last thing we need is more accidents. God for bid if they are on open road.

If you want some sobbering thoughts if there is shortcuts higher risks is gothenburg last year.

http://www.firedirect.net/index.php/...truck-inferno/

Safety record and standards of our tanker drivers is very good.

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I'll tell you what, if they don't want their job for £45k a year I can think of several people who will happily do it for HALF that and they WILL be happy about it. It's hard enough to get a job these days, if they want to throw theirs away I say go for it. Give someone a chance who wants the damn job.

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What I cannot get my head around is that the MD of shell got £12 million on bonuses alone, he does not even have to pay for his fuel!! :mad:

Why can’t he sacrifice a little of his obscene wage to satisfy the drivers? :confused: :mad:

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because they aren't striking over money

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What is this dispute about? It is NOT about pay. It IS about stabilising the distribution of a commodity essential to the smooth running of this country by establishing an industry-wide bottom line on safety,

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training and conditions.

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Shell is a worldwide company whose income is not just from retail sales of petrol. The drivers are employed by several different companies. IIRC It is the exploration side that makes the money, the retail side of things doesn't make much money at all. Shell is not on the list of the 7 companies, unless one of them is a part of Shell.

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I see they forgot the part that goes:

"It IS about working up a slim pretext for a dispute into an attack on the national infrastructure in an attempt to bring down the government".

:rolleyes:

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I wonder if the drivers will take a pay cut for higher safety standards - if it's not about money I'm sure they will be prepared to

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........."and take over Labour" :D


http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...bour-coup.html

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A local supermarket and 3 filling stations all have signs saying they have run out of petrol/diesel.

The panic-buying has started.

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How do the Government sort out that the drivers want even more money than the 45K they get now. Come on Arthur give us an answer that does not involve its the Tories fault ???

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From the above quotes its not about money :shrug: :confused:

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If I cannot get to work because of this strike I will send the union an invoice for every days pay I lose.

I will even look at getting it through the small claims court.

If I don't work I don't get paid, and public transport is NOT a viable option.

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This strike, drivers vs government/company (pension reforms) sounds just the miners strike in the 80's, Thatcher one side Arthur Scargill the over who won......... Strikes never works, it only causes even more job loses than it should be due to the down turn in market turn around & overall margin figures from the strikes themselves. Unions themselves are years out of date are vying for lost power when labour or other partes got voted out from head office at the last big election that's all.

It's down to money lost & revenue on unions part;

Less union members = less money for union > need to reduce manpower numbers
Loss of union power hold on members = they disappear to past tense history
Loss of main funds = lay-offs even reducing salaries of the fat-cat bosses to normal pay levels:)

Both side are bad as each other but as again the unions have taken the bait with the hook inserted, unions act - the company cost cuts to balance the books then the an over all plan of slow full withdrawal in @5 years then no jobs for anybody - good one you unions fools :shocked: Haven't we seen this all before ? Yes I have in my life time over + over..... more will as time goes on until people wake to the union main plan - total control of all manpower in work place...not in my life time if I can help it :mad:

Just think all of this is all controlled by a group of 6 mega banks in europe folks, little most know about how they control all our life in more way than one. For more money to drive down our economy into the pit, then to take it all for straw strand money

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The BBC are misreporting by the looks of it as apparently money isn't the issue

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17533151

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Oh oh, Members are asking me why is it the Tories fault, Lets say many things, The government, no matter who is running the country, make more tax out of fuel than any other selling product.

For example our good neighbours across the pond pay 'today's rate' $4.00 per gallon, WE pay £7.00 per gallon. You go into a garage today WE pay 1.51 per litre.

When tanker drivers now go to a garage, sometimes the garage is not closed BUT, it only takes a spark ie from a mobile phone to ignite the petrol and BANG.

H & S is much more tighter now than when l was growing up, they are only asking for what is right.

When l go to work each day, l spend money like everyone else, we buy products each day and pay bills like everyone else, everything is going up BUT not wages, my wages have been frozen until 2014.

IF the Army are going to deliver fuel, they will have an escort, The army are there to protect the country, NOT to deliver fuel.

This is the governments get out, we don't car about the public WE will keep the main essentials running, we will send in the army.

The government should tell relevant parties sit down and thrash this problem out and KEEP the country running.

I think you are sounding a little confused Arfur. I'm on me phone & short if time (need to get to the garage to fill up as there is some scaremongering going on) so I can't ask what I need to in a quote type of way. Anyway just to start the ball rolling!

Are sparks near fuel a new hazard? If so this is something a all need to be made aware of & just not tanker drivers.

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said in this thread did'nt think its money its H&S issue.

Too many on thread saying should not go out personally would not be shocked the Anti fuel duty protestors takes the oportunity make it petrol price protest.

I would be shocked if we dont see 2000 style protest on fuel duty.

They had trouble to convince tanker drivers last time to stop there lorries now what cracking oportunity to latch onto another despute.

I fully support tanker drivers on this might be the only one here but as long PAY not the issue I will support them. Even if Its burden to me.

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Not surprised just heard even David Cameron say on LBC radio its a good idea to top up your tank as if people need encouragement.:(

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absolute crazy scaremongering. Dont think this wise at all just will cause more issues. He now trying back down little saying there no imminent strike 7 days grace. So all these panicked buy petrol then when tank needs filling again there either short supply or strike active.

Sensible thing is to carry on as NORMAL when strike date planned THEN FILL UP. Why OH why cameron FUELLING this panic.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17533151

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This government doesn't have a clue, they say keep a spare can in the car, when you get the opportunity to go to a garage, do so.

The LFB have already said that this is a dangerous method of harbouring fuel.

Its also been stated on www.bbcnews.co.uk that what the government are saying is in appropriate to state that fill up quickly to avoid disappointment and they are training RAF personnel to step in.

Also in the same prog it has been said that IF they are not trained up to the standard required they will NOT be allowed to put fuel in the tankers.

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Then it goes to show that the BBC can no longer be trusted in providing a none biased source of news

Its not the first time in the last few months that the BBC has resorted to News International type reporting.

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My son was fully trained by the military in fuel delivery and did some of his training to civilian standards and he has the tanker qualification cards to prove it. So don't rant about something YOU have had no dealings with Arthur. There again you will be happy i bet to see trouble started between the drivers and the squaddies.

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One thing does not sound right about all of this.

WHY do RAF personnel need to be trained?

I would have thought that they would be quite competant already with, you know, refuelling jets and stuff with avgas?

I certainly remember seeing fuel tankers on RAF bases in my days as an Air Cadet.

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Strange that the article by the union leader Len McCluskey appearing in 'The Guardian' mentions money throughout, when it is not supposed to be about money.:rolleyes:
T&C would include pay.

From Unite website
So how has the BBC got it wrong?

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Presumably they need to be familiar with the specific procedures used at civilian filling stations - you know, the proper safety precautions tanker drivers already use as a matter of routine. The safety procedures that make our fuel delivery infrastructure among the safest in the world. The safety procedures that Unite seems to think are not good enough ...

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an interesting article - and it lays bare what Red Len is really up to. As he himself admits, this so-called 'dispute' exists entirely within the private sector, yet he is determined to twist it into an issue with which he can attack the government.

The government, he says, should act as an 'honest broker'. Its response so far amounts to a 'shameful day' for the Tory party.

The tanker drivers are being used. If they strike, they will lose wages and gain nothing. They are merely pawns in Red Len's political game.

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Sirus, My rants are from news media coverage, and what oil exceutives has stated, I also stated in my earlier comment, l was watching the guy say it on Tv.

I am only reporting about what is being said, It was said by an oil exec about the standards that have to be set before loading the tanker, so its not a rant from me its fact from what is being said.

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So if there standards are so high why are they striking other than to increase there wages which are already higher than the majority of workers in the UK.

Those same workers who will not be able to get to work so will not be able to feed there families or pay there bills. The drivers are after one thing MONEY

I bet you now that when this is over the tanker drivers will have a wage increase and no change to anything else

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But in the post before mine, Sirius states that his son was trained to civilian tanker standards and has the certs to prove it.

Whilst I do not doubt that our infrastructure is one of the safest in the world, you don't really hear of major incidents at MOD bases. So, in my opinion, my questions stands, why do they need training?

I guess that fuel is not just kept in the tankers on bases, plus where does the fuel come from in the first place? Or do the civvies deliver that too, just in dark green trucks as opposed to white ones with Asda on them?

Perhaps Kymmy can shed some light?

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A bloke on the TV just said it costs him £2 worth of fuel to get to his "ration" of £10 worth each day... a nice little earner for the garage I think.

And this panic buying may well get a few hours' overtime for the tanker drivers having to deliver extra stocks perhaps (tacho hours allowing)?

My car needs a fill up... last time I filled her was in September....

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have there even been any dates set yet for the strikes should they even go ahead ,i have looked and cannot find any set dates so it is ridiculous that there is all this panick over something tha may be weeks away if it even happens

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Indeed which why cameron, maude absolute idiots. Why fuel this wondering if they want deflect from the scandel.

Get people in hysterics that government know strike will be very soon.

Its crazy it could be weeks away infact cameron, maude fill your tank up get jerry cans stored is playing into strikers hands.

However why encouraging dangerous practise storing fuel.

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I bet they go for the bank holiday to really stick the knife in. They definitely are not getting my support over this.

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/ma...s-firefighters

Firefighters wants maude to retract his jerrycan stockpile.

Totally agre it puts firefighters job at risk

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would not bet on it.

Olympics bigger fish or even summer holiday.

I have my doubt they will go for easter. Might be wrong but think they will use it further down.

The only thing which could be indicators to early strike is the training soldiers to drive tankers.

That might be in the mind unions.

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Two things...

A) I am sure you would have been attacking the government if they had said nothing, asking why they weren't offering advice
B) Jeez - everything is a conspiracy to you, isn't it? :dozey:

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If they strike ,it will be sooner rather than later .Having the strikes in the summer will leave too much time for a solution to be found which is not want Red Len wants ,he wants to make a statement to the government using strike action and does not want to let common sense prevail and stop him so if there are strikes then they will be over the Easter breaks and bank holidays that follow with a couple of normal working mondays thrown in

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I presume you mean firefighters lives?

During previous fuel stockpiling petrol was found stored in houses. This could easily make the difference between a small fire with no injuries, and a fully developed house fire with a very probable risk of deaths or serious injuries.

I don't think they can legally strike as soon as Easter. But the olympics will no doubt be a target.

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With respect Hugh, MP's shouldn't give advice on subjects they know nothing about. Or they should take advice from people in the know before they make fools of themselves by giving out dangerous (possibly lethal) advice.

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This is 100% false, mythbuster did this they did all kind of damage to get the phone to make a spark and nada. Enter one staticly charged nylon shell suit then boom.

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I also saw the mythbusters episode. However any electrical equipment that is not intrinsically safe has the potential to cause a spark, although this would usually be down to faulty equipment, and not a spark from the ariel, as they were trying to replicate. And then all it would need is for there to be the correct concentration of air and fuel vapours.

Just for your information, it is the area of about 1m radius around the nozzle when a car is being filled, that is within the most ideal range of flamability.

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I have no issues whatsoever with anyone wearing a shell suit going boom :D

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People really are idiots sometimes, incapable of thought or taking responsibility. Tonight the Government is facing criticism for suggesting people should fill up ahead of the possible strike blaming them for causing a rush on fuel. While they probably deserve some flack for offering silly comments since when did everyone abdicate their decision making to what some government minister says? Everyone running out like lemmings to fill up then complaining that panic was caused.

Morons.

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:clap::clap::clap::clap:

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Best of all is the numpty telling us to put full cans of petrol in out garages, so now i reckon on the number of garages that are going to be broken into is going up.

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OH yes meant lives:dunce:

The stockpile thing it will be interesting if it actually caused a fire. Think it was idiotic maude but think firechief is right. Certainly would be worried at every house fire potential to be bomb for poor old firefighters. The other is IF this did happen you survived would you will be charged.

Hugh anything possible ONS just given damning report economy what will happen as all panic to buy petrol make mini recovery say at least not double did recession.

You start to wonder what happens if I am right the strike dont happen yet. Government next say sorry false alarm we was sure it was easter. Its not in there remit to start panics well not deliberate. Usually Governments DUMB down risks to public. They do that as panics can be dangerous could cause fights all sorts nasties.

They overt them as it causes more issue than it solves.

I worried about those people who cant get petrol who got no access to public transport to far to walk. Unable due this get work get possible end up disiplined or fired.

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must bean shell petrol so they will goto others which dont like shell. They should know matches dont goto together well.:LOL:

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Just thought concern now I not saying soldiers wont be trained adequately. What happens if there error at the pumps.

Cars breakdown engines damaged who will pickup the lawsuit for damages.

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Popped out to ASDA for a loaf before, this was around 10pm and there were loads of people driving through the forecourt seeing as the place had run dry earlier this afternoon. I wonder how much fuel they were wasting driving around looking for fuel.

By the looks of it the panic buying of bread has started as well judging by what was left on the shelves.

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:rant:
Absolute flipping I could swear stupid. I hope dump and dumber in our government satisfied.

PANIC now happening my town thanks bunch lemmings as the british public over this shown they not got brain cell follow stupid advice.

We not just got Our petrol station being drunk dry by yobs in suits knicking petrol from those who cant afford to fill up.

We now getting FOOD yes we knew this would happen FOOD suplies in shops dwindling quicker they panic buy all the food.

Whats betting it will be dumped in there bins 2 weeks as its gone off. Brainless morons absolute brainless. While again those who cant afford it STARVE:rant:

Dont care want rant time

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BREAKING NEWS

NOPE NOT STRIKE

Cameron taxi for Cameron and take idiot maude with him

NEW update on advise ON FILL UP IF HALF A TANK.

DONT USE JERRY CANS

What is this idiots taking GIVE CLUE CAMERON/MAUDE advice now TOO bloomin LATE. They all panicking due to your extremely poor advice. Do favour shut your mouths in future.:mad:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17545739

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17545258

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On the other hand, in 2000 T. Blair was lambasted for not acting quickly enough in the face of a strike threat by tanker drivers. Sometimes the guvmint is damned if it does and damned if it doesn't.

Personally, I think a bit of panic buying now is worth the pain to deny that moron Len McLuskey the pleasure of igniting the panic when he finally decides to call a strike. Nationwide industrial action aimed at any part of our essential infrastructure is a terrorist tactic and anything the government can do to fight it is welcome in my book.

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I bought some petrol this morning but I was relatively calm.

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Well the people was dump moronic then in 2000 to expect government to call a panic when guess this THEY DID NOT KNOW WHEN IT WOULD HAPPEN. Lets not forget it WAS fuel price issue NOT TANKER drivers.

This plane moronic of our government THEN CHANGE ADVICE after it. Bluthering idiots from government and people.

When these FIRST LOT panickers run dry the strike is on I will laugh at all those stupid idiots who now got no petrol.

Infact this PLAYS right in the hands of the strike why prolongs the issues. Cant take days to up the stockpiles at forecourts to levels before these stupid panickers.

When strike hits we will then have little fuel to distribute hence causing bigger issue.

TIME for those to who want panick is WHEN ITS CALLED not before.

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What?

Do you actually ever read what you write?

What does that statement actually mean?

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Personally i think that if Unites aim was to create havoc and mayhem amongst the general populace and make the government look like a bunch of cretins then they have succeeded far better than any strike would do ....with quite a lot of help from the government of course

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My husband just went and panic bought.We usually wait until we have just under a 1/4 of a tank.We still had 1/2 a tank but as we have a long trip next week he decided to join the queue.

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There were no problems for my partner when she bought petrol this morning either.

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Hope ours gets some today as we tend to not fill it up that much at all.

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I've heard people are now panic buying walking shoes...... :D

Damien's spot on and the media constantly banging on about panic buying is only going to cause more panic buying. But then, that gives them a nice juicy story to report on. Same thing happened during the riots, endless repeats of the same scenes of a few fires, break-ins etc. giving the impression the whole UK was under siege. Two things need to happen in situations like this a) the media needs to act more responsibly and b) people need to think for themselves and use some common sense.

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Its what it says people taking all the petrol those who cant afford to panic or more sensible than these idiots. No doubt some who panicking fearing precious darlings will have to bus with commoners or walk to school.

When will these idiots finally get some sense stop panicking theres ABSOLUTE NO NEED.

Its now 11.10 the queue is still horrendous I hope they keep some back for there locals who cant afford to fill tanks.

Martyh Absolute spot on why cant people just fill up what they normally use.

I had laugh watching some idiot going beserk he want to fill 2 jerrycans he got half before a over worked staff shouted on mike at him to stop he would'nt she shut pump.

When he went mad she threatened police told him the station got no jerry can rule.

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INDEED

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I did panic buy some sausage rolls while they are still 3 for a quid.

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Spot on Osem but l cannot see (a) ever happening and (b) is unlikely to happen either as many people have lost the knack of thinking for themselves and applying common sense to things.

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Nice to see class warfare alive and well - just because they were wearing suits.....

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So when people panic buy petrol, and store it in the garages, sheds, cellars, utility rooms, etc... which are mostly common places for domestic fires, then who has to sort out the fires made 100x worse due to the stupid advice given out by an MP who hasn't got a clue what he is talking about?

It will be an arsonists dream come true. The fire investigation dogs won't be able to determine between petrol used by the arsonist, and petrol stockpiled.

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:confused::confused::confused: Sorry, but that is a contradiction in terms...it will never happen.

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Really??? Where from, I must rush down there now :D

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I would be surprised if anybody contemplating arson over the pat few weeks is now sat at home rubbing their hands with glee and chuckling, "bwuhahahahahahaaaa, nobody can stop me now!"

As for advice regarding jerrycans, well I'm sorry but industrial action affecting our national infrastructure and services often is dangerous. Firemen of all people should be aware of that, they have not been averse to using national strikes in the past as a means of trying to get what they want.

That idiot at Unite has sweet-talked the tanker drivers into believing that this dispute is about something other than him getting a mandate to take on the government. With that mandate now in hand he can call a stoppage pretty much whenever he wants. The nation needs to be prepared.

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Arson happens, fuel stockpiles or not. It's just that the results could be far more serious, and harder to detect as arson.

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hhmm I better move my petrol supplies from being stored underneath my letterbox just in case.

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I see Milliband is still claiming he's being crystal clear about what HMG has done wrong. It's a shame he's being rather less clear about what he'd actually do to resolve this matter and whether he'd condemn any such strike action. I wonder why?.... :confused: :rolleyes: