Petrol hits whopping 140.20 unleaded before 3p increase in august1st
 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17490088

Surely government has to reverse its decision. Its not looking good this surely going to cripple goods prices which will escelate inflation.

Osbourne got any sense he will tell the house commons the planned increase now been cancelled.

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He will squeeze us until the pips squeak... and then squeeze more.

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Yet again the poor old motorists has to take the brunt of it.:(:td:

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That WAS a labour saying but seems to sit better with the Tories now.

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I would be not shocked to see it at £1.60 before long.

Its a shame alternatives like hybrids way off the rocker in prices. Especially with low budgets.

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Indeed this could just cause heap more problems.

My Citymatic though very economic so not so bad. Wonder how many trapped in bigger cars unable to downsize due to tightening belts.

Notice stoneacre brought back scrapage to boost sales. That after the 0% apr £1 deposit.

This wont do the car industry any help whats so ever you just think the oil industries slitting there throats.

How many fearing the return of fuel strikes they surely must be close.

Now cynic in me thinks oil industry expected budget to drop Fuel Duty this was planned way getting more money but osbourne put it up from august 1st.

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Lucky i get the bus to work i gave up running a car 10 years ago i am single and its just not cost effective.

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Many people have to run their own car for essential business journeys. That isn't getting too and from the place of work, but instead having to be mobile to actually do the job. For a long while the maximum rate of expenses allowed by the taxman has been 40p, before any extra has to be declared as income. That may seem adequate but consider that has to cover not only fuel, servicing, depreciation, a business class insurance policy .... I see no indication this rate is being reviewed meaning many of us are at risk of having to pay somebody for the privilege of doing our job.

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Just about to replace my car with an even more uneconomical one, happy days.

£1.55 for a litre of super at Norton Canes last week (motorway prices but by no means the most expensive). This gets me to Northwood and home on the return journey with fumes remaining.

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It was increased to 45p last tax year.
http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/rates/travel.htm

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140 try paying 152p for diesel, George Osbourne is a theiving idiot who only cares for himself and rich friends

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Well I drive a diesel 10 miles up the motorway, when I booted it 70+ my fuel lasted 2 weeks, sticking to 60 I can go 3 weeks.

My ecomony is abot 47mpg a lot better than my old petrol.

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Get some vegatable oil Dont tell osbourne he'll want to rob you blind. My mate said they want charge people levy for using it in diesel cars. What cheek would understand stopping the red diesel fraud but surely those who use the vegetable oil from there chip pans is up to them. sadly my car wont take it as its petrol.:(

Surely it should be encouraged to try get oil industry to be more sensible. Anybody think that now OPEC should be smashed. How do you smash the biggest cartel other than drugs underworld have power to destroy countries.

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i think the process is a bit more complicated than that ;)

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£1.46 by me unleaded, went up 10p in a week

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I dont know how easy it is

so did google search hit gem yes car does need conversion kit however there is something interesting.

http://www.vegoilmotoring.com/eng/

This was interesting for those with diesel so it can be done without conversion the following quote says how.

Reading more info on this web you are allowed 2500 litres threshold but more you pay 13/14p per litre. Say your not going over found to you pay on the whole lot including first 2500. How they find out is god knows would assume they ask details of milage make of car. You have to submit this info.

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I've had to refuse work this week due to the cost actually getting to site ,it simply wasn't worth doing

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definately not something i would try with my van :erm:

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sad to hear it just shows the impact its causing.

Did anyone hear the expert on beeb saying its going to get alot worse would not be suprised £1.60 by year end and likely push us into recession:(.

Martyh Ithat mixing does sound rsky if you get the thing wrong. Should put health warning try it at your own risk.

Wonder how much the conversion.

I wondered in past going LPG the cost converting was too expensive. Plus lack LPG points.

The alternative I have seen promising is hydro gen cars they more impulse drive than electric.

The other is compressed air car.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVIwropRMME

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even better ,get rid of OPEC

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nice idea but has some these alternative patents bought up by OPEC.

The are car is very good one for town driving in future.

Aparantly this could be close to perpetual motion.

Vid on here shows they also invented compress air generator which runs on compressed air:tu:

2.38 on this vid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJeMnZuOOJU

How far is this from being pratical vehicle weight restrictions?. First said they had build it with weight in mind so it must have capacity which short off normal transit.

I knew they was going to be sold in india would nice to see the price point and sales if its out there now.

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Amazes me that they keep putting up the duty, knowing people are struggling, not just now, but well, since the econonomic crisis started

So why are they doing it?

I don't drive myself, but my mum does and she'd had to give up her part time job, because it costs to much in petrol and isn't worth the money anymore. :td:

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Someone on another Forum I use says that there is going to be a fuel blockade over the Easter weekend. Asked him where he saw this reported, as I have found nothing on Google or anywhere. Might just be trying to scare people.

Hope it doesn't affect public transport if there is a blockade.

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I think what has to happen is the Haulage companies and tanker drivers have to join forces and go on all out strike.

The driver gets hit all the time when there is a budget. Hauliers have to make money but are going to be killed off by the prices of petrol and diesel cost, we end up paying in the end by the cost in the shops.

I don't want to say this but the miners crippled this country by going on strike and it hit the country hard.

I as a motorist am sick to death of this government increasing fuel prices to fund there own pockets in tax.

When you go into garages you get ripped off twice, one by the franchiser and the other by the government in tax.

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Nothing to do with oil increasing from $108 per barrel in January to over $125 now, then?

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I suggest you read this Arthur:

Link

8p a litre margin for retailers before costs taken out....

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would not be suprised to be fair.

AdamD this all smoke dangers to supposedly save our planet from pollution. Problem alot these taxes have been tax too far crippled economies. Society cant live without the black stuff.

Until those alternative like the air car hydro gen go mainstream where 70% drivers use them we will stop rely on fossil fuel.

Dont believe electric is viable long term due to its not impulse car got to charge over night. Costs electric to individual and to nation with where is the electric to come from.

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Some forecourts will put their prices up just because of the fact that we're expecting it.
it's going to be another episode where it will be going up a penny every other day because they know we're expecting it.

then you have the garages that are 5p cheaper than the other one. which just tells you that a lot of them are just putting the prices up because they know we're talking about it, and they know we're expecting it.

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I think this happened last time too.

blockades of refineries I bet wont make mistakes next time when the shut them down. They never knew lincolnshire made alot of our petrol.

If they shut hemel hemstead too as its got direct pipe down there remember the fire had to shut the link pipe. Lindsey produces 223,000 barrells per day. Conoco 221,000 barrels per day.

Lindsey third largest refinery and conoco 4th. you can see where maximum damage could be done in blockade.

• Lindsey Oil Refinery, (Total), 223,000 bbl/d (35,500 m3/d)
• Milford Haven Refinery, (Murco), 140,000 bbl/d (22,000 m3/d)
• Pembroke Refinery, (Valero Energy), 220,000 bbl/d (35,000 m3/d)
• Stanlow Refinery, (Essar Energy), 272,000 bbl/d (43,200 m3/d)[8]
• Teesside Refinery, (Petroplus), 117,000 bbl/d (18,600 m3/d)
• Fawley Southampton Refinery, (ExxonMobil), 347,000 bbl/d (55,200 m3/d)
• Humber Refinery, (ConocoPhillips), 221,000 bbl/d (35,100 m3/d)
• Coryton Refinery, (Petroplus), 208,000 bbl/d (33,100 m3/d)
• Grangemouth Refinery, (Ineos), 205,000 bbl/d (32,600 m3/d)

Its was only after shutting the humber was fuel blockade took grip as combined both refineries its the biggest place where oil refined.


For some reason that blockade left the humber refineries alone for days attacked smaller refineries first like grangemouth, milford haven, pembroke, teeside. I dont think they will make that mistake again especially with that fire that there is link to hemel hemstead via big pipe to humber.

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thats true hydrogen does need to be made not saying it dont. Its at present best alternative to fossil fuels as pointed out electric by far its not possible due to electric issue.

The air car is the most interesting as it potential to be perpetual motion

You did watch the second vid they alread designed a compressed air generator which works on guess what compressed air. It dont need electric it works on AIR. Its compressing the air then running on that compressed air.

If the compressor makes EXCESS compressed air enough to drive the Air Car we then have car which dont need ANY fuel top up anywhere. It litarally go and go No wind to drive it no sun to drive it. You simply literally never need to stop.

Now that would be impressive the other advances would be sure is kinetics energy where simply bumps drive energy would be re-fill as source to be tapped fill batteries. We already seeing devices which you shake to provide energy to run it. Ad the technology to cars it would reduce times for recharging.

I dont think we ever fully rely on black stuff we will break the shackles how many years it will take fully viable alternative which dont rely on masses nuclear plants time will tell.

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What I find galling & in some ways profiteering by forecourts & the refiners.
Last May 2011, Brent crude was at about $128pb (per barrel) Today\this week its around $125pb. May last year I was paying 135.9p per litre. Today I am paying 142.9ppl.
So as there have been no increases in VAT or duty on fuel in the last 9 months how can the cost's have increased?
Between May 2011 & Dec 2011 the cost pb dropped to below $105, but the forecourts only dropped the litre price by 1.9p to around 133-4ppl.
So pb was down 17.5% but forecourt price only went down by 1.6%.
Something smells a little bit fishy me thinks & then adding on 3.03ppl + vat is a SMACK in the face for anyone who uses a vehicle be it SDP, commute or for work.

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spot on increases down to crude oil yet decreases never come back to real terms of price of barrel.

Now the excuse is unsettled tensions between iran/isreal.

Middle east have always been in conflicts or tensions why now is used as excuse to justify prices.

Now the one do accept which possible cause is rise of other markets putting pressure on prices but if crude oil prices dropped then parity should been done in forecourt s in uk.

That means the problem elsewhere not middle-east

Finger should be at the refineries making killing in uk. Shell prfits went to 18bn despite missing targets of refining.

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/m...18bn-2011.html

Although governments equally to blame for there taxation policies over the years.

I think we could drive the economy forward if we dropped 20p off fuel.

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Hrm, well maybe they should take this duty and heavily subsidise electricity with it.
Which would probably mean taking over an electric company so it's run by the government again.
That way at least, people would be more inclined into purchasing an electric or electric/hybrid car.

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Some developments.

Vince Cable wants to use stateheld stockpile oil to reduce prices.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...s-7583732.html

Dont get me coy but the highest cake is the uk government next to the costs of oil/refineries.

Surely this wont do anything to reduce forecourts prices. Surely wise to leave our stockpiles alone for more serious rainy day. Afterall the middle east aint that stable we could end up in right pickle..

How much stockpiles we got.

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Interesting comment during budget scrutiny today from osbourne.

So the question ask can we assume that it goes up to ofset the loss of motorist driving.

What a strange answer what strange way looking at the problem.

So if more drivers walk away fuel duty will increase rapidly to ofset losses those walked. Which inturn will cause more hardship more prices go up inturn slap us bang into ressesion.

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Arthur do you not check what your ranting about. I have learnt that its best to put your brain in gear before posting a factless rant on the Internet.

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Sod Petrol
I paid 148.9p for diesel today, and with the **** tanker drivers going on strike the **** garages will put prices up like they did in 2000.

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It was obvious with the olympics this year that every loony union boss would try to bring people out on strike at that time. They will try any blackmail they can to raise wages at the expense of others.

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I dread to think of the chaos a drivers strike will cause and it feels like blackmail to me.

Regarding the increases in petrol and diesel we seem to be cushioned at the moment in my area with unleaded being on sale at 135.7 and diesel at 142.9 but I though some members might benefit from looking at the following site which checks out the cheapest prices near any postcode........ http://www.petrolprices.com/

I have used the site for a few years and can vouch for it not leading to spam attacks.

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And drivers in the US are complaining because it is $3.79 a gallon (approx two pounds fifty, or 55p per litre)....

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Well first think what is LPG? what can you get it? here's the really simple answer......... Lpg bottling plants, some local cities have them, I know my city has some of them too, what do they store + refill the spent 25/47kg (red/orange) bottles with..... LPG the same thing that's used in motor engines. So where do you fill up your LPG tank in your car or HGV......... petrol station or bottling plants. All you have to is pick up the "dog'n bone" + ask have got the equipment to refill a LPG tank..... so there's more places than one thinks.

I know about this as I run my wheels (diesel) on a duel fuel system off Ebay + new LPG tank (long distance) direct through to the engine (fitted by gas safe reg plumber) - easy as that; no pricey conversion here - look on YouTube for yourself folks.

Looking in my local yellow pages even online, I seemed to note company's advertising, for a filling up service yes LPG so there you go folks.... here the very good part you service station users (cover your eyes if you want).......only paying £0.79 pence a litre to fill up not forecourt prices. Not to mention running a blend of thinned down mixed cleaned used oils for my other tank in case I'm not near a LPG station of bottling plant yes my engine is not a modern chipped controlled piece of rubbish just a plain old diesel solid runner; starts on the first turn of the key every day any day even in cold winter months.

Diesel engines like old model VW Jetta, old Landrover series types even the old model range rover V8's are the best as you don't have tons looms of wiring everywhere & different sensors everywhere till you get to your seat covers! To add this fact, if your up against it you can run that old V8 Range rover engine off paraffin to get to the nearest fill point, it's not going to sound smooth, more like rough as dogs dinner but it will get you there just a little slower. Never had to do it myself but have seen it done a few times over the years but don't try it in a modern piece of rubbish diesel as it will write off your engine... you have been warned :dunce:

I hopes some out, that are wondering on how or where do I get this problem sorted out... now you know, what the tax man doesn't know won't hurt one bit - less in their pocket more in mine :angel:

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toonlight thanks for this info very useful for others suspect too.

I wish kept my nexia now would looked into this got mate to do it he more mechanical bloke.

Citymatic not got any room to fit conversion sadly which well anoying get 2 bags shopping in its nearly creaking.

Downsized to be more economic fearing the error. Road tax is not changed stupid insurance penalised me for downsizing. 6 months at £56 insurance for citymatic. I had 6 months left on nexia so effectively 2 insurances.

Told them old one went to scrap should told them could not afford there high insurance.:mad: Thats Zurich for you its cheapest I have been able to get around last time I renewed maybe should threatend to walk been with them since they bought eagle star.

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Hello mertle, hows it going buddy?.... I hear loud + clear insurance are pain to there own cause, putting up prices -then selling our data to 3rd party wondering if we interested in claiming for that "accident". Late to find they have jacked up the renewal price to cover your claim in the first place :mad:

As for fuel wise I've seamed to have cracked, it's easy on my wallet long term & pay for the rest with no more extra expenses on top of my yearly total figure. If your wondering I put a quarter of thinners (1 can of thinners) per tank with the mixed cleaned oils for each tank, that can be used motor oil, cooking oil or even old compressor oil. The thinners is an old trick on how to keep your engine working clean while using spent used oils. I get my sources from in the motor repair industry I take it away it saves them disposal costs so much so, I get a call when theres a 5 gallon drum full normally & collect with placing a empty drum to be refilled later.
LPG wise I got a choice of three sources.. four if you count the petrol station that has put in large LPG tank this week area a square area of 100 miles.

On the future wise, once I get things going with a few solar panels that I've got coming (second hand -off a back of a lorry) with a second hand tank & water supply - I'll have a hydrogen fuel on tap which will be free of charge then using the same set up but with a small nipple nozzle in the injector system.

On another note here, from the paraffin to using fine brandy or single malt or even whisky or vodka can be used but the first four are more pricey than normal petrol so be wise all, it's just a waste of good booze.

Looks for my 15yr single malt in my drinks cabinet...... cheers all!

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Thanks yep insurance ridicolous now due to various scammers the ambulance chasers lawsuit claimers.

Now we got new one they creaping up if your in flood plain risk.


I read scientists able to make fuel synthetically with same properties and able mass produce the process. 240,000 barrels a day is made in poland plant.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_fuel

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In my considered opinion, I think, we are being ripped off by this goverment, at these price increases, to help to fund some secret ongoing exspense,
???? say the Olympic games. :rolleyes:

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Probably a new literacy campaign.....

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Three words

"NEW WORLD ORDER"

Google it

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They're reforming - excellent.

Power, Corruption, and Lies is one of my favourite albums.

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Why THIS government? Fuel escalator brought in & Olympics bid for under the previous incumbents.

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Garage by me was 140.9. at approx 11am this morning. went in at about 1pm and it was 141.9. while I'm driving back around he's put it up to 143.9.

robbing (INSERT WORD HERE)!

This is dumb Daves fault.

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Sirus, by the sound of you, you love the Tories, hate Unions and don't like people airing there opinions.

Well sadly l say what l think, and if you don't like it - then tough.

There were queues outside several garages this morning, and the strike hasn't even started, due to the pompous behaviour of the great Tory leader, who doesn't have to worry about putting fuel in his car - we pay it in out taxes.

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Calm down Arthur as you really don't know what you are taliking about in regards to Sirius.:rolleyes:

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That's it blame ME!

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The garage near my work has run out of Diesel, suprising really at 151p :shocked:

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The robbing (INSERT WORD HERE)! has put it up to £145.9 now.

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£1-49.9 in parts of norfolk this week thats for unleaded

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:LOL: priceless

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No way Arthur will never believe you ;)

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137.9 at the local Asda

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Bp 149.9 unleaded 155.9 Diesel @ the trafford centre

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and isn't the present government going to abolish the fuel escalator ?,that would be the government that Arthur hates so much :)

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And will they come back down to 'normal'?
will they heck. they'll stay there and gradually start rising by 1p every other day.

and then the way it works is the government will say to help the problem we're not going to put that 3p on now. and we'll celebrate in the streets because petrol is cheap!!

we're mad. absolutely raving bonkers we are.

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Just went through Hemel Hempstead and then Luton, prices are ranging from 1.39 UL to 1.42 UL apart from the robbing you know whats at the Texaco garage in Sundon Park which have put their prices up to 1.49 UL whilst the garages are running short..